The QB pickings are slim for Romo and Big Ben owners. Is the use of a high waiver or high bid a good risk on Vick? What's the consensus? I for one as a Romo owner sitting on Carr have this dilemma. My gut says to hold off and use that pick or bid down the road....but then my head says the Pittsburgh offense is good enough to warrant the pick up. What say all of you?
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To Vick or not to Vick? (1 Viewer)
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bizkliz
Footballguy
own bradford in one, stafford in another.
vick will be 2nd priority if i fail to get carr. my fingers are crossed hoping for either.
my leagues all consist of Steel City residents, so he might be tougher to come by.
local media seems to think haley keeps the offense similar to what ben ran, vick just REALLY needs to avoid the stupid fumbles and bad losses.
-biz-
vick will be 2nd priority if i fail to get carr. my fingers are crossed hoping for either.
my leagues all consist of Steel City residents, so he might be tougher to come by.
local media seems to think haley keeps the offense similar to what ben ran, vick just REALLY needs to avoid the stupid fumbles and bad losses.
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I think Vick has the potential to do well given the offensive talent around him, but still knocking off rust and employing a simpler playbook for the next game or two as well as he adjusts his timing to these WRs in real time. I can see Vick employing his long ball very well to deliver the ball deep to a talented receiver corps, and to Miller deep up the seams. I doubt he is as mobile as he was, but I think he can be serviceable.
That said, I think Carr is settling in and has a shot at doing just as well, if not better as Vick, and has health and youth on his side. Raiders have scored 33 and 27 last two games and Carr has looked confident leading this offense to points.
To me, the question is actually are you holding Romo and willing to carry both Carr and Vick to play matchups? Or is the plan to jettison Carr in favor of Vick? I'd stay with the hot hand in Carr and let someone else take a gamble, even with the tangible upside Vick has.
As a Romo owner myself, I scrambled to pick up an additional two tier-3 QBs on wire, but am debating the wiseness of this decision of being that more limited in a short-bench league.
That said, I think Carr is settling in and has a shot at doing just as well, if not better as Vick, and has health and youth on his side. Raiders have scored 33 and 27 last two games and Carr has looked confident leading this offense to points.
To me, the question is actually are you holding Romo and willing to carry both Carr and Vick to play matchups? Or is the plan to jettison Carr in favor of Vick? I'd stay with the hot hand in Carr and let someone else take a gamble, even with the tangible upside Vick has.
As a Romo owner myself, I scrambled to pick up an additional two tier-3 QBs on wire, but am debating the wiseness of this decision of being that more limited in a short-bench league.
skillz
Footballguy
I have Rivers and Bradford so I am intrigued by Vick. Rivers is getting knocked around like a piñata and Bradford stinks so far. The QBs in our league are really picked over so Vick is the best option out there. I figure with the weapons he has that he has an opportunity to do very well. It will take him a game or two to knock the rust off but I think he has lots of upside potential for a Week 4 waiver wire pick up, particularly when I don't exactly have great options at QB right now.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
yes. you have to take the shot at his historic fantasy offerings.
maybe him not running so much and being more mature will help him.
he certainly will be given the keys to a 12-cylinder beast of an offense.
maybe him not running so much and being more mature will help him.
he certainly will be given the keys to a 12-cylinder beast of an offense.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
One guy in my league is really exited about him. Dumped 60%+ of his total FAAB on him, and now is effectively bankrupt. I don't get it. Vick to me is still the same turnover machine, and is a high risk for being replaced by the Steelers for a guy off the wire.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
MattFancy
Footballguy
And he's playing on a short week this week. Maybe if he had a full week or so to get integrated into the system, I'd feel differently. But yeah, we haven't seen anything from Vick lately that inspires confidence.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Im in. Spent quite a bit on him in both 2qb formats with hope he'll assist thru bye weeks.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
He looked decent in preseason.
Don't get me wrong, I think he can easily crash and burn tonight. But I think he was the cheapest option off the wire with the most upside after Carr and Taylor got picked up (if they weren't already)
Frank Black
Footballguy
With injury and bye week troubles, this is what I'm hoping for from Vick when I start him tonight.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
In line to pull the trigger. Do not have the stomach to run Tanny out in London. Other option is Bortles but I am not keen on rolling with the Jags at Indy. The risk with Bortles might translate into a slew of garbage yards but with the Thursday game looming a decision has to be made.
Vick has decent potential to post a value score tonight. He has a lot of weapons, a home game and the Steelers need to win to keep pace with the Bengals. His rushing potential is a sweet spot in his game.
With that being stated, his rushing potential can quickly turn into a nightmare. Plus, I hate starting players on TNF. So much risk. Baltimore D is still dangerous and they are desperate for a win. These rival games are usually blood baths. If I start him and he is running around 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage taking 20 yard losses or laying the ball on the turf it will be a loss.
The key here is Bell having success which will take the pressure off. If this happens he will have a decent number.
Vick has decent potential to post a value score tonight. He has a lot of weapons, a home game and the Steelers need to win to keep pace with the Bengals. His rushing potential is a sweet spot in his game.
With that being stated, his rushing potential can quickly turn into a nightmare. Plus, I hate starting players on TNF. So much risk. Baltimore D is still dangerous and they are desperate for a win. These rival games are usually blood baths. If I start him and he is running around 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage taking 20 yard losses or laying the ball on the turf it will be a loss.
The key here is Bell having success which will take the pressure off. If this happens he will have a decent number.
jurrassic
Footballguy
Bortles has posted 515 yards, 4 tds, 1 int with 34 yards rushing in the past 2 games. I actually like the fact that he is playing Indy as I think the garbage yards matter. My concern with Pitt is that they follow the Dallas game plan with Weeden and run the ball constantly. I could see Vick going for 170 and a 1 td.
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Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Like your thinking. Plus - it looks like rain tonight. I just cannot stomach putting in a player on a Thursday night game that has a history of turning the ball over. Need a bigger sample. Need a larger sample from Vick. A big game tonight will help in the long run.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Have no choice. Got outbid for Carr by $12. It was Vick or weedan. I'll take my chances with Vick throwing to brown and bell.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Have Big Ben and playing Bortles over Vick this week. I want to believe he'll do well, but I need to see him do it first before plugging him in. Upside is there, but so is the risk he falls flat.
Jack White
Footballguy
Carr and Flacco went for 26% and 13% of FAAB, respectively.
Vick didn't receive a single bid.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I don't think so. I'm going to the game and have been keeping an eye on the forecast and it isn't supposed to rain here until Friday night/Saturday morning. I do agree that his history of turning the ball over scares the hell out of me.
Jack White
Footballguy
I was considering the same ... Dont like that it's in london and against the Jets (Revvis)
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
kybudman40
Footballguy
Vick on a short week? no ty. Im rolling with Bortles as well. Hopefully Luck gets himself figured out and the game is out of reach early. Jags are going to be good for garbage time yds/tds all year long.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
As a Brady owner I'll give that performance a "meh"
Scored 15.5 out of a yahoo projected 21 . Was definitely not good, but could have been worse.
I was kicking myself early into the game for not going Bortles who probably has a safer floor.
His rushing ability actually saved his day a bit. Should of had two TDs.
Does not seem to be close to a long term or mid term play.
Scored 15.5 out of a yahoo projected 21 . Was definitely not good, but could have been worse.
I was kicking myself early into the game for not going Bortles who probably has a safer floor.
His rushing ability actually saved his day a bit. Should of had two TDs.
Does not seem to be close to a long term or mid term play.
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Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Lost Romo. Started Tanny last week and he was lousy. Have Miller in another league so the entire Miami start has been painful. I have no confidence in starting Tanny in London vs. a Jets team that just lost a tough game to the Eagles. With that being stated, Vick was pedestrian last night. The game plan was so conservative it cost that team a win. That loss was almost as bad as the KC loss to the Broncos. Experienced coaches making dumb decisions. Of course, Tanny will probably toss 3 TDs with 345 yards and 45 rushing yards. Ohh and throw in a 2-point conversion.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
He sucks.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Didn't see this thread, but I did this and after last night I am OK with it. I spent $1 of my budget and someone else who didn't need Vick spent $14. I hadn't used any of it yet and I got CJ last year due to that and got the championship (lost due to me being an idiot) so I didn't really want to bid much. I am not a big fan of Vick at this point. It is a 6 point passing TD league and 1 per 20 yards passing, so that limits the running QB's upside.
I'm rolling with Fitz/Smith based on match ups until Ben gets back. Not happy about it, but it is a 20 deep bench and the last thing I was thinking about in the draft was anything other than Ben's bye week. I knew I should have grabbed Palmer in the last round. No idea how he went undrafted (lots of FBGs, including a staff member), I remember thinking that, but I think I got to the end and realized I still needed a K. I should have known better, but I went Gronk early and just missed on some of my wants so my WRs/RBs weren't great and I loaded up on potential. Still mad that I didn't nab Palmer late, dumb move.
Deamon
Footballguy
It is?? Jeez after all these years I never knew why people called my friend Michael, "mike".
Anyways in all seriousness, I just always heard announcers, etc call him "michael vick" until this year, just found it odd. Also Yahoo changed his name on thier site to "mike" for some reason.
The announcers mentioned he prefers to go by Mike now. Not sure if he legally changed it, but they did mention it on the game last night.
Deamon
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
lolOh ok, I must have missed that. That's nice of Yahoo to respect his wishes
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
He should be in jail for what he did to Antonio Brown.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I don't think you have to legally change your name from "Michael" to "Mike" - I've read somewhere that "Mike" is short for "Michael".stbugs said:
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I don't know where else to put this to talk about all players at once but it's a looming disaster to own Bell, Brown, Bryant with Vick on there at QB, it's ridiculous.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Vick is awful as advertised. Only good news is Big Ben is rumored to come back as early as next week but it is a kongshot.
