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It's a given that Stephen A. Smith should stick to basketball since he knows little about football and tends to be terribly misinformed, but every once in a while, when I tune in for a few minutes to see what he is seeing, I continue to somehow be surprised with his lack of understanding of how things work. Yesterday, he has LaDainian Tomlinson on the show.....so I started watching. He kept trying to bait Tomlinson into criticizing certain people...Shaun Alexander for example.....but the worst came when he went off on Marty Schottenheimer. He was basically calling for LT2 to denounce his coach and exclaim that he alone was the reason for the Chargers missing the playoffs this year. He further stated that the Chargers didn't go to the playoffs because Schottenheimer stupidly suspended Antonio Gates for the first game of the season. He repeated this point over and over. Am I mistaken, or did Schottenheimer have nothing to do with that? I thought the suspension came from the GM or team president.....not the coach. If Smith was right, then that's one thing.....but I believe (once again) that he was spewing crap with very little knowledge of what he was saying. Anybody know for sure?

 
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Sports media would be better if S. A. Smith stopped contributing.The Chargers organization, Gates' employer, made that decision. It is also apparent Smith knows nothing of contracts or someone's free will decision to either honor or dishonor a legal binding document.

 
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I'd rather eat glass than listen to Stephen A Smith discuss anything!
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:thumbup: Loud, arrogant, ignorant, annoying, unathletic = sports talk show host?

What were these people thinking?

I wonder if Smith, Steven A. (SSA=### if placed in a mirror) ever played anything sport other than basketball.

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LT- Well, I'm trying to be a good teammate here... but there were some coaching issues that hurt our chances for the post season. :D

 
Am I mistaken, or did Schottenheimer have nothing to do with that? I thought the suspension came from the GM or team president.....not the coach.
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There have been lots of other threads on this, but it wasn't a suspension. AJ Smith placed Gates on the roster-exempt list, which meant that Gates had to show up by a certain date (determined by the NFL) or he'd have to miss the first regular season game (by NFL rule). Gates showed up the day after that.
 
Am I mistaken, or did Schottenheimer have nothing to do with that? I thought the suspension came from the GM or team president.....not the coach.
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There have been lots of other threads on this, but it wasn't a suspension. AJ Smith placed Gates on the roster-exempt list, which meant that Gates had to show up by a certain date (determined by the NFL) or he'd have to miss the first regular season game (by NFL rule). Gates showed up the day after that.
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That's what I thought.....S.A. Smith stated over and over that it was Schottenheimer's decision and thus Schottenheimer's fault. ESPN is losing credibility every day they continue to keep this guy on the air.

 
LT- Well, I'm trying to be a good teammate here... but there were some coaching issues that hurt our chances for the post season. :D
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:lmao: ... good stuffi watched this entire episode (was my first time watching it all the way through) and i was also rather displeased with steven a smith's general knowledge of football and how he kept trying to suck LT in to saying something bad about his peers.

i think the most annoying part was how he said 97 times that he was "in da house!!"

 
Am I mistaken, or did Schottenheimer have nothing to do with that? I thought the suspension came from the GM or team president.....not the coach.
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There have been lots of other threads on this, but it wasn't a suspension. AJ Smith placed Gates on the roster-exempt list, which meant that Gates had to show up by a certain date (determined by the NFL) or he'd have to miss the first regular season game (by NFL rule). Gates showed up the day after that.
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That's what I thought.....S.A. Smith stated over and over that it was Schottenheimer's decision and thus Schottenheimer's fault. ESPN is losing credibility every day they continue to keep this guy on the air.
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It's been a long time since ESPN was concerned with credibility.
 
A lot of people like to pile on Stephen A. Smith, but I think this Scoop Jackson quote shows that Smith's show has some value, even though it's absolutely not targeted at a lot of you:

Stephen A. Smith's show

No one really got the magnitude of this. Not even at ESPN. When the deal went down and "Quite Frankly" was born, the first thing I wanted to do was write a column about it. Not happening. "Too self-promoting" was what I was told. But "QF" was bigger than that. It was bigger than ESPN.

When "Quite Frankly" aired on Aug. 1, 2005, it broke down a barrier that had been up for over a decade. And the following sentence is no disrespect to Bryant Gumbel, Michael Wilbon, John Saunders, Montel Williams, Orlando Jones or DL Hughley, but … not since they pulled Arsenio Hall off the air in 1994 has a black man had his own talk show -- or been slated to host one with his name in the title. The fact that Stephen A. was given the format to do him -- to be himself, unscripted, unapologetic, unleashed -- was historical in the landscape of broadcast television.

For a target audience of several million that are forced to watch "Being Bobby Brown," in a Neilsen era when UPN stands for United Plantation of Negroes because it is one of the few networks where you find "quality" African-American programming, the "officialness" of Stephen A.'s hosting a daily sports talk show was bigger than anything Ron Artest or Terrell Owens did to push us a few steps back. Not only did Sports Illustrated recognize it, but so did David Letterman.
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I must also say that for the most part Smith does a pretty good job with his interviews. He asks tough questions (perhaps too tough/leading, as in the LT interview) and speaks his mind.
 
Look, I'm not bothered all that much by the self-promotion, the bravado, or the style of the program.All I'm asking is for the guy to get his facts straight. His knowledge on the NFL is hideous and he displays that for all the world to see everytime he attempts to get into it......

 
Regarding the above quote on this excuse for a show... To say that merely having a show is going to put any race a few steps forward is nuts (implied from the bottom of the column).

 
LT- Well, I'm trying to be a good teammate here... but there were some coaching issues that hurt our chances for the post season. :D
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I'll take words that would never come out of LT's mouth for $1000, Alex.
 
It'll be nice when people learn that if you spin race on everything then racism will never go away.

 
A lot of people like to pile on Stephen A. Smith, but I think this Scoop Jackson quote shows that Smith's show has some value, even though it's absolutely not targeted at a lot of you:

Stephen A. Smith's show

No one really got the magnitude of this. Not even at ESPN. When the deal went down and "Quite Frankly" was born, the first thing I wanted to do was write a column about it. Not happening. "Too self-promoting" was what I was told. But "QF" was bigger than that. It was bigger than ESPN.

When "Quite Frankly" aired on Aug. 1, 2005, it broke down a barrier that had been up for over a decade. And the following sentence is no disrespect to Bryant Gumbel, Michael Wilbon, John Saunders, Montel Williams, Orlando Jones or DL Hughley, but … not since they pulled Arsenio Hall off the air in 1994 has a black man had his own talk show -- or been slated to host one with his name in the title. The fact that Stephen A. was given the format to do him -- to be himself, unscripted, unapologetic, unleashed -- was historical in the landscape of broadcast television.

For a target audience of several million that are forced to watch "Being Bobby Brown," in a Neilsen era when UPN stands for United Plantation of Negroes because it is one of the few networks where you find "quality" African-American programming, the "officialness" of Stephen A.'s hosting a daily sports talk show was bigger than anything Ron Artest or Terrell Owens did to push us a few steps back. Not only did Sports Illustrated recognize it, but so did David Letterman.
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I must also say that for the most part Smith does a pretty good job with his interviews. He asks tough questions (perhaps too tough/leading, as in the LT interview) and speaks his mind.
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Another race card issue? That deadhorse is a gooey puddle of indescribable muck.I could care less what color he is...could be E.T. for all I care. All I ask is to not be so damn annoying and do a little background reading on all sports...not just basketball. Congrats to the guy for "breaking barriers" but it seems like sometimes those barriers are built by the ones that later break them. I couldn't stand the guy when he was on that silly "game/talk show" on ESPN when they got points for valid statements and he was on the panel with 2 or 3 other sports columnists. I couldn't believe he got his own show. Do black people even like this guy? Seriously, put aside his color, and that he may have "broken barriers". Do you actually enjoy watching him...is he insightful? To me it's as bad as fingernails on a chalkboard. :cry:

 
He's really good at basketball. His written column is sometimes really good and sometimes really crappy.

 
SAS (and Irvin) were huge contributors to [allowing] Owens looking like a complete ###.

 
He's really good at basketball. His written column is sometimes really good and sometimes really crappy.
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I have no problems with his takes on basketball....I may not agree with them sometimes, but at least they are somewhat informed. His takes on football show that he is pretty ignorant as to how the NFL functions...at times, he doesn't even know the basics and yet projects that he understands it all perfectly. Makes him look foolish.....

 
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Stephen A. Smith :X :bs: :XHowever, he is slightly better than Stuart "CRAZY EYE" Scott. :lmao:

 
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He's really good at basketball. His written column is sometimes really good and sometimes really crappy.
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I have no problems with his takes on basketball....I may not agree with them sometimes, but at least they are somewhat informed. His takes on football show that he is pretty ignorant as to how the NFL functions...at times, he doesn't even know the basics and yet projects that he understands it all perfectly. Makes him look foolish.....
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I agree, I was posting what he actually is good at. I wouldn't mind if his show covered basketball 40-50% of the time, with him touching other sports. He needs to be better informed. Hopefully he'll get there.
 
Regarding the above quote on this excuse for a show... To say that merely having a show is going to put any race a few steps forward is nuts (implied from the bottom of the column).
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Not saying that I necessarily disagree with you. I'm just the messenger here.He certainly seems to have a target audience, and his show has real value to that audience.

The reason I point that out is that a lot of people here are *not* in the target audience and don't like his show, and they're wondering why it's out there.

 
Another race card issue? That deadhorse is a gooey puddle of indescribable muck.

I could care less what color he is...could be E.T. for all I care. All I ask is to not be so damn annoying and do a little background reading on all sports...not just basketball. Congrats to the guy for "breaking barriers" but it seems like sometimes those barriers are built by the ones that later break them. I couldn't stand the guy when he was on that silly "game/talk show" on ESPN when they got points for valid statements and he was on the panel with 2 or 3 other sports columnists. I couldn't believe he got his own show. Do black people even like this guy? Seriously, put aside his color, and that he may have "broken barriers". Do you actually enjoy watching him...is he insightful? To me it's as bad as fingernails on a chalkboard. :cry:
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I think your points are all fair.I only posted that SAS's target audience finds value in his show because people asked "how does this stuff get on the air?"

I like his show but would definitely like if he were more knowledgeable about some of his topics. I feel that he's well prepared for some of his interviews, not so prepared for others.

I also agree that the race card has been overplayed to the point that many legitimate discrimination situations are dismissed or overlooked due to the "boy who cried wolf".

 
Stephen A Smith is indeed a tool. I agree that he should just stick with basketball. He's about as annoying as Stuart Scott or Michael Irvin... :X

 
:clap: for him breaking barriers (as a minority, I see where he's coming from with this angle).However, stick to what he's good at (basketball) please. :yes:
 
If I had to choose between Bobby Brown and Steve Smith..I guess I would choose Smith.Bu then again Bobby Brown could make anybody look good!

 
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