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Tony Hollings is the MAN! (1 Viewer)
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Godsbrother
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I admit it -- I bought into the hype and picked him up last week. Still too early if it was a stupid move or not...
Fullback Fro
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Your so cool Jetdoc
:capella:Armageddon T. Thunderbird
Footballguy
I think he was inactive because Davis plays special teams and he doesn't. It doesn't mean that they are unhappy with him or are giving up on their 2nd round pick.
Goat Herders
Footballguy
I think its Week 4 and you're all very impatient.HERD
Crony Capitalist
Footballguy
It doesn't mean that they are unhappy with him or are giving up on their 2nd round pick.Yes it does mean they are unhappy with him. He fumbles and fails to block. Sure they aren't giving up on their 2d round pick, but their treatment of Mack shows they are not going to take fumbling lightly, and the certainly aren't going to leave somewhere in there who leaves their franchise, Carr, exposed to serious injury.
Capers has stated publically that he will only keep three active tailbacks on his roster for any given game.Mack and Davis were the two main backs, and Jonathan Wells excels on special teams.Hollings was the odd man out, and will probably continue to be the odd man out until someone gets hurt.Hollings is a good keeper for a dynasty league after Mack leaves...but I would be VERY afraid that the Texans go RB in the first round of next year's draft....and yes, I'm so cool.
Goat Herders
Footballguy
The Texans are not going for a RB in the first round next year. The mere fact that you made that part of your post takes all credibility away from anything else you have to say.HERD
EastBayFunk
Footballguy
I think it's funny that lately there seems to be this notion that Hollings is overhyped. Folks, the vast majority of people on these boards aren't predicting much at all from Tony this season so you can go ahead and settle down. I feel he might make some noise down the stretch, but to say that such a belief represents gross overhyping is just stupid.
Genghis Khan
Footballguy
You fumble and can't block...you aren't going to get much respect in this league. So, he will sit for a while.But he'll get a chance again late in the season.
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
Here is why I think he is being overhyped-A short and incompletesample of Hollings' shark pool threads from the last week and a half:1)Why all the talk about Hollings? 2)Tony Hollings? 3)hollings vs. mack??? 4)Hollings Looking Good 5)Onterrio Smith vs. Tony Hollings 6)Will Hollings win the job today? 7)Stacy Mack now a 3rd down back only? 8)Tony Hollings :Anyone hear his status for today? 9)Tony Hollings to see 1st & 2nd down action... 10) The one that we are inThat's more than a thread a day for a guy who got about 10 carries, fumbled, got benched for the rest of the game and then made inactive the following week. Can you list me five players that get this many threads and have done so little? If you can, I will say that they are overhyped as well.
Please elaborate on this.Last I saw, Tony Hollings played a whopping four games in college at RB before he got injured.Those four stellar games were against the defensive powerhouses of Vanderbilt, Connecticut, Clemson and BYU.Domanick Davis was drafted as a special teams specialist, plain and simple.Stacey Mack signed a one-year contract for a reason.I don't see the Texans putting all of their faith in an unproven Tony Hollings. Davis doesn't have the physical ability to hold up as a featured runner in the NFL, and Wells is worthless.A logical POSSIBILITY (as I stated above) is for the Texans to draft a RB in the first round, especially if they wind up with a first round pick in the 6-10 range (which is what they are on pace for now).Support your position, HERD...
EastBayFunk
Footballguy
I doubt that. I'm guessing the Texans are pretty happy at RB with Davis and Hollings. Each guy has excelled when given the opportunity. I think they'll try to do something about the offensive line with their first round pick this year as that's the one area on the offense that really needs work.
Knowing what we know if we were the Texans wouldn't it make sense for us to see what Hollings is made of. If they do this than he is going to have to play sometime in depth during this season. After that evaluation is complete, then and only then IMHO will they be able to determine in which direction they (Hollings, Mack etc.) and the running game are headed.
Goat Herders
Footballguy
I'll tell you exactly why its not a logical possibility...The Texans are 2-2 despits having no run game to speak of.They gave up a 2nd rounder (1 of 2) to grab Hollings, preventing the Packers, among others from getting him.They have money invested in Carr" " Gaffney" " Andre Johnson" " Billy MillerThey have Davis on board as well.To be competitive, Casserly is bound to know they don't need another skill-position player, they need O-line help (most likely through free agency) and defensive playmakers. The DBs aren't too bad, but they desperately need LBs for the 3-4 scheme. The expendature of a 2nd rounder on Hollings, plus Davis, plus the possibilty of retaining Mack is STRONG evidence that they're not looking for another RB. I'd even be so bold as to suggest if they are drafting in a position where a top RB is available, they'd be inclined to trade the pick.HERD
Goat Herders
Footballguy
Its been pointed out before that 2 reputable ratings bureaus had Hollings rated in the top-10 of this years class, despite the injury. HERD
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I still think Holling will get a lot of work later in the season. They will want to know if they will need another rb. I really doubt even if they decide to get another back it would be a 1st round pick. That almost has to be o-line.
Hmmm...you don't seem to understand the mind of Mr. Casserly.Casserly doesn't draft players based on NEED...he drafts them based on value. Hell, look at their 2003 draft...he drafted Dave Ragone and Drew Henson when he already had David Carr.Why? Value. Trade bait.Tony Hollings is a similar value. Everyone had him highly regarded coming out of college, given his limited performance. As RB's continue to fall, SOMEONE is going to approach Casserly with a trade for Mr. Hollings.You are absolutely correct about their O-Line...they will most likely go through free agency to achieve those needs. The Texans already have two OL mainstays that have less than a year of experience (Pitts and Wand). I would actually be surprised if they added more youth to their OL via the draft...they really need more experience on the line.I'm not sure about DESPERATELY needing LB help...Sharper/Foreman/Wong/Clemons is a formidable foursome, with Peek as youth backing them up. I agree that free agency would be the place to go for a LB...but they won't pursue a premier one, given Casserly's reluctance to overpay for old talent.Again, with Casserly, you can never tell which way he will go in the draft. I don't think Mack will be asked to return (e.g. see Allen from 2002), which leaves them a little vulnerable at RB without a free agent signing. If a good RB value is available in the first round, I would NOT be surprised if Casserly pounced on it. THAT is what would make me nervous if I were a Hollings owner.
EastBayFunk
Footballguy
Let me get this straight, Hollings was drafted as trade bait? That's simply wrong. Every team in the league had a chance to get him and the Texans were willing to pay the most. If no one was willing to outbid the Texans for Hollings back then then why would they all of a sudden be so eager to trade for him now? For Hollings' trade value to exceed what he cost the Texans, he'd have to see significant playing time in order to prove himself. He's not going to do that if they spend another first round pick on a RB.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Doesn't make sense to rationalize with someone so clearly biased beyond reason, but here's a couple immediate thoughts that come to mind:(1) If the Texans drafted a RB in the 1st round next draft, would this not be the first time in NFL history that an NFL team utilized 1st and 2nd round picks in an NFL draft to take RBs... even with multiple picks in either round? They could sell this from a PR standpoint because they have no other weaknesses to draft? I sure wouldn't want to be Casserly explaining this and I highly doubt Casserly would want to be Casserly explaining this.(2) Speculation of this nature seems pretty unsupported and dare I say blatantly argumentative to begin with since each of D.Davis and Hollings have, if anything, exceeded expectations in the limited time each has played. If both completely flopped at this point, speculation of RB needs worthy of a 1st round pick might be more open for debate. Right now, it's ludicrous. This team doesn't have 1st round needs other than replacing RBs who respectively have 5.9 YPC (Hollings) and 4.0 YPC (D.Davis) in what should be a learning year?You have an anti-Hollings agenda, plain and simple. At least pro-Hollings agenda folks seem rational understanding this was not likely to be a productive year for Hollings under the most favorable of circumstances.
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Goat Herders
Footballguy
Well stated Jim,But just for the record, I for one DO expect this to be a productive year for Hollings. I feel that he will be worked into a more regular role as the year goes on and he will see enough time in the second half of the season to be worth a spot in deep leagues. Will he be R.O.Y? I'm not going that far. Not even close.But I think a few hundred yards and a couple TDs is certainly not out of the equation.HERD
BigJim®
Footballguy
Wow, I totally overlooked this and had to point out how much this tremendously alarming tone (even capped!) amuses me. I find it hard to believe Tony Hollings owners would be overly "nervous" about anything, given the fact that he is likely filling the very last seat on their bench. :rotflmao
id I mention how nervous I am about Jose Cortez losing his job? VERY nervous.Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Texans | T. Hollings released
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:01:19 -0800
HoustonTexans.com reports the Houston Texans have released RB Tony Hollings from the team.
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:01:19 -0800
HoustonTexans.com reports the Houston Texans have released RB Tony Hollings from the team.
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trader jake
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maybe he can hire Otis as his FBGmanager...it worked for reshard lee
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MLBrandow
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oh dear.... I Read the first 8 posts before I realized this was bumped from three years ago....
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THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
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Weiner Dog
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There's a little rust on the bandwagon, but there's also plenty of room.
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