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Tony ROMOS blunder: Where does it rank in playoff history? (1 Viewer)
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Hard to put it into historical context so soon, but man. It was a big one.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Sopranos
Footballguy
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
Not for Romo and fans of the Cowboys!
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The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
I think it will have a devastating impact...on his likelihood to be the holder next year.
redman
Footballguy
That was in a conference championship game, and after his team fought back from way down, but he also had an assist on that play from a defensive player. Romo has absolutely no excuse (silicon-slicked ball conspiracy theories aside). It's a pretty big blunder. It won't affect Romo's career though, unless he lets it.
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lions327
Footballguy
The difference is Romo is a high profile player.
bentley
Footballguy
I agree with much of the sentiment above. It was relatively meaningless as far as playoff games go, and the safety earlier was probably a bigger gaffe. They'd just made a big defensive stop and had a seven point lead with a chance to ice the game with a decent drive, and instead ended up surrendering nine points in very short order.
Maybe, but the divisional round this week will see some wierd plays by some big time players and in a few years Romo's gaffe wont seem so important in the big scheme of things.
That pass play is gonna linger much like the Redskin's 'rocket screen right' against da raiders. Not good.
redman
Footballguy
Gawd, that play sticks with me and it wasn't even close to the difference in the ball game.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
ROMO was not the normal holder though..ROMO is the Dallas starting QB. No one would care if the backup punter botched the snap.
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eh, I dont think seattle goes any further and I never thought Dallas stood a chance to make the super bowl. It was the least interesting game to me before the weekend started.
Is it Parcells or Owens? Is JJ traded before next season? If Parcell's walks, who' the next coach?? All bigger issues than Romo effing up the hold against an equally inferior NFC competitor, imo.
poopdawg
Footballguy
I definitely think this will take him down a notch mentally. I wanted so much to give this guy a chance this year, but he was playing with so much overconfidence and IMO is one of the most overrated players in the NFL at this point. (I realize he still has much to learn and I think he can be solid down the road). Maybe next time, he'll think twice about kissing chicks on the sideline and get his damn head in the game.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I agree about the mental aspect. My buddy lives in Dallas and said Romo went Hollywood after he had three good starts.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Sorry, completely inaccurate. Romo was the holder all this year and all last year, since he was the b/u QB. If he had been the starter from week1 maybe they would've started the season with a different holder. The announcers were commenting on it, that he and Plummer were the only starting QBs that were also the holder. Then in the PC afterwards, Tuna mentioned how he'd been the holder for the last 2 seasons and never, even in practice, bobbled a hold. That was in response to a question along th elines of should Romo have been the holder.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Safety, TD and failed 2 point conversion. The Hawks tried for 2 to make it so a FG wouldn't win it.
Ya know what, redman? that was the first superbowl party I ever attended. A friend of mine invited me to go with his father and a bunch of his friends to a sb party at a hotel. It was a 2 bedroom suite. Adults(getting drunk) in one room and kids in the other. The Man With Two Brains was running in constant in the kiddie room while football was happening in the other. Good times. I remember my friends dad getting pissed as the game wore on because the "best team in NFL history" was osing to da Raiders. Rocket screen right nearly killed him.Gawd, that play sticks with me and it wasn't even close to the difference in the ball game.
It's still funny to this day.
bentley
Footballguy
Thanks. I was pretty upset while that was going on last night. Couldn't remember it clearly.
redman
Footballguy
I was only ten years old and that still sticks with me. It's ironic because of the four Gibbs teams that reached the Super Bowl, that one was the best and it's the one that lost.In an odd coincidence, in the Super Bowl the year before vs. the Dolphins, Theismann had a tipped pass near their end zone that he managed to fight away from the defensive end and bat down, saving an INT for a TD. Not all that different from that play.Ya know what, redman? that was the first superbowl party I ever attended. A friend of mine invited me to go with his father and a bunch of his friends to a sb party at a hotel. It was a 2 bedroom suite. Adults(getting drunk) in one room and kids in the other. The Man With Two Brains was running in constant in the kiddie room while football was happening in the other. Good times. I remember my friends dad getting pissed as the game wore on because the "best team in NFL history" was osing to da Raiders. Rocket screen right nearly killed him.Gawd, that play sticks with me and it wasn't even close to the difference in the ball game.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Was that the INT right before half? I was in college and won 750 dollars on that play on a square.At that point it was the most money I ever had at one time.I was only ten years old and that still sticks with me. It's ironic because of the four Gibbs teams that reached the Super Bowl, that one was the best and it's the one that lost.In an odd coincidence, in the Super Bowl the year before vs. the Dolphins, Theismann had a tipped pass near their end zone that he managed to fight away from the defensive end and bat down, saving an INT for a TD. Not all that different from that play.Ya know what, redman? that was the first superbowl party I ever attended. A friend of mine invited me to go with his father and a bunch of his friends to a sb party at a hotel. It was a 2 bedroom suite. Adults(getting drunk) in one room and kids in the other. The Man With Two Brains was running in constant in the kiddie room while football was happening in the other. Good times. I remember my friends dad getting pissed as the game wore on because the "best team in NFL history" was osing to da Raiders. Rocket screen right nearly killed him.Gawd, that play sticks with me and it wasn't even close to the difference in the ball game.
It's still funny to this day.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Actually it was stopped the night before when that DB's wife stabbed him with a steak knife!
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
That was not a "blunder"
yep. Pretty much sealed the game for the raiders. If Gibbs didn't come back the way he did and lead the 'skins to a couple more sb's that play might have been his lasting legacy. Thats why he's a hof'er. Resilience; like Marv Levy.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Bettis' fumble isn't considered a blunder?
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I didn't read all the posts, so this might have been covered...but who's to say the Cowboys would have won that game anyway?
The Seahawks have Josh Brown, who is as clutch as they come. A 50+-yarder for him isn't automatic, but it's pretty darn likely. They could have gone down the field and scored. Plenty of time on the clock.
And even with the botched snap...how about the Cowboys bottling up the offense and making them kick out of their end zone?
Sure, it probably cost them the game...but so what? The Cowboys weren't going to the Super Bowl...and they sure weren't going to win it if they did. Everybody knew that Pittsburgh was at least dangerous last year. There's nothing dangerous about Dallas unless you think you might get spit on.
The biggest blunder was the Cowboys receiver droping the sure TD in one of the Super Bowls against Pittsburgh in the 70s. Another would be the Browns guy (Ernest Byner? Not sure) fumbling away the playoff game against Denver.
Another blunder-- Jim Harbaugh's Colts nearly beat the Steelers in the AFC Championship game. On the game-winning drive, the Colts has a SURE INT go right through the guy's hands. He catches the ball-- Colts in the Super Bowl. As it was, they almost converted the Hail Mary.
All of those are worse than Romo. He'll be okay.
The Seahawks have Josh Brown, who is as clutch as they come. A 50+-yarder for him isn't automatic, but it's pretty darn likely. They could have gone down the field and scored. Plenty of time on the clock.
And even with the botched snap...how about the Cowboys bottling up the offense and making them kick out of their end zone?
Sure, it probably cost them the game...but so what? The Cowboys weren't going to the Super Bowl...and they sure weren't going to win it if they did. Everybody knew that Pittsburgh was at least dangerous last year. There's nothing dangerous about Dallas unless you think you might get spit on.
The biggest blunder was the Cowboys receiver droping the sure TD in one of the Super Bowls against Pittsburgh in the 70s. Another would be the Browns guy (Ernest Byner? Not sure) fumbling away the playoff game against Denver.
Another blunder-- Jim Harbaugh's Colts nearly beat the Steelers in the AFC Championship game. On the game-winning drive, the Colts has a SURE INT go right through the guy's hands. He catches the ball-- Colts in the Super Bowl. As it was, they almost converted the Hail Mary.
All of those are worse than Romo. He'll be okay.
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Emmitt Smith
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Better then the 91 team? I have to disagree with you here. That 91 team was probably top 5 on my all time list. They could do no wrong that year. (Well, once butI was only ten years old and that still sticks with me. It's ironic because of the four Gibbs teams that reached the Super Bowl, that one was the best and it's the one that lost.In an odd coincidence, in the Super Bowl the year before vs. the Dolphins, Theismann had a tipped pass near their end zone that he managed to fight away from the defensive end and bat down, saving an INT for a TD. Not all that different from that play.Ya know what, redman? that was the first superbowl party I ever attended. A friend of mine invited me to go with his father and a bunch of his friends to a sb party at a hotel. It was a 2 bedroom suite. Adults(getting drunk) in one room and kids in the other. The Man With Two Brains was running in constant in the kiddie room while football was happening in the other. Good times. I remember my friends dad getting pissed as the game wore on because the "best team in NFL history" was osing to da Raiders. Rocket screen right nearly killed him.Gawd, that play sticks with me and it wasn't even close to the difference in the ball game.
It's still funny to this day.
)And as far as where does Romo's botched snap rank, not that high. It was a wild card game and two sloppy teams going nowhere. I do think it makes or breaks Romo. It's all up to him to bounce back or fold.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Why is Romo's blunder getting all the "love" but I haven't heard ANYONE mention Terry Glenn fumbling at the two, resulting in a safety.
What's 21 minus 2? And what would the final score be then?
What's 21 minus 2? And what would the final score be then?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Had Indy scored a TD it would have been a horrible blunder. Big Ben saved Bettis legacy with that tackle.
redman
Footballguy
In all seriousness, yes. That 1983 team was the highest scoring team in history to that time, and had a ridiculous +42 turnover ratio, which to me is one of the most astounding single season stats of all time.Better then the 91 team? I have to disagree with you here. That 91 team was probably top 5 on my all time list. They could do no wrong that year. (Well, once butI was only ten years old and that still sticks with me. It's ironic because of the four Gibbs teams that reached the Super Bowl, that one was the best and it's the one that lost.In an odd coincidence, in the Super Bowl the year before vs. the Dolphins, Theismann had a tipped pass near their end zone that he managed to fight away from the defensive end and bat down, saving an INT for a TD. Not all that different from that play.Ya know what, redman? that was the first superbowl party I ever attended. A friend of mine invited me to go with his father and a bunch of his friends to a sb party at a hotel. It was a 2 bedroom suite. Adults(getting drunk) in one room and kids in the other. The Man With Two Brains was running in constant in the kiddie room while football was happening in the other. Good times. I remember my friends dad getting pissed as the game wore on because the "best team in NFL history" was osing to da Raiders. Rocket screen right nearly killed him.Gawd, that play sticks with me and it wasn't even close to the difference in the ball game.
It's still funny to this day.
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fatness
Footballguy
Good point.
CalBear
Footballguy
A TD was scored after that safety, and a 2-point conversion missed. Without the safety, presuming Seattle still would have been able to drive for a TD from better field position, the game would have been tied.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
True. But wouldn't a tie be preferable? The point is that I've heard almost no mention of the fumble. Under any other circumstances, that play would be focused on with as much scrutiny as the botched hold.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Because it didn't end the game. If Romo's fumble had came in the 1st quarter, hell even the 3rd quarter, it would be talked about as a blunder, but not a season-ending blunder. Glenn's blunder came early, and Dallas still had a chance to win the game...which was ruined by Romo later.It's not exactly fair, but that's how it is - Romo's blunder was the last time Dallas had the ball in the 2006 season, so it gets magnified 1000x.
dgreen
Footballguy
Not true. They threw a hail mary on the last play.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Touche. But the point main point stands, I think.Now that you mention it - anyone notice how Terry Glenn was basically a spectator in that play?Not true. They threw a hail mary on the last play.
MarshallRob
Footballguy
"Blunder" implies some element of stupidity. With contact there are going to be some fumbles, even by the most surehanded of players. Romo just dropped the ball for no apparent reason.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The DB was able to run okay. His problem was not breaking his run to the outside. If he does, Roethlisberger wouldn't have been in the position to make the tackle.But I agree with Mojo -- the Bettis fumble would have gone down as one of, if not THE biggest blunder in playoff history.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
To me blunder means you screwed-up. Mishandling a good snap definitely applies.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I agree, but Romoms play is the most basic of all plays. Parcells said that was the first time he has EVER seen Romo muff a snap and that is including all practices.
dgreen
Footballguy
I don't know. While I love the TO ratio of the '83 team, the '91 team played better overall D. Their first 3 home games were all shutouts. The '83 team only held their opponents to under 10 once in the regular season.Rocket screen was definitely a huge play. If not for that, the Redskins would have only been down 14-3 at halftime. They came out in the second half and put together a good drive, ending with a Riggins TD. Unfortunately, they missed the XP. I could have easily been a 14-10 game in the third quarter.In all seriousness, yes. That 1983 team was the highest scoring team in history to that time, and had a ridiculous +42 turnover ratio, which to me is one of the most astounding single season stats of all time.Better then the 91 team? I have to disagree with you here. That 91 team was probably top 5 on my all time list. They could do no wrong that year. (Well, once butI was only ten years old and that still sticks with me. It's ironic because of the four Gibbs teams that reached the Super Bowl, that one was the best and it's the one that lost.In an odd coincidence, in the Super Bowl the year before vs. the Dolphins, Theismann had a tipped pass near their end zone that he managed to fight away from the defensive end and bat down, saving an INT for a TD. Not all that different from that play.Ya know what, redman? that was the first superbowl party I ever attended. A friend of mine invited me to go with his father and a bunch of his friends to a sb party at a hotel. It was a 2 bedroom suite. Adults(getting drunk) in one room and kids in the other. The Man With Two Brains was running in constant in the kiddie room while football was happening in the other. Good times. I remember my friends dad getting pissed as the game wore on because the "best team in NFL history" was osing to da Raiders. Rocket screen right nearly killed him.Gawd, that play sticks with me and it wasn't even close to the difference in the ball game.It's still funny to this day.
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The '83 team lost the SB in the fourth quarter of the NFC Championship game. Up 21-0 against SF, they had to kick a game-winnning FG late to win 24-21. Despite that blow, the team went into the SB with way too much confidence.
