Top 10 NFL teams using college methodology (1 Viewer)

[kaa]

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Here's my attempt at applying college methodology to the NFL as of this week. College seems to really like win streaks. Lose one game and you can drop like a rock.

#1 Colts - 9-0 - easy enough with their huge win over the Patriots

#2 Saints - 9-0 - Big wins against @Eagles, Giants, @Dolphins, Falcons

#3 Bengals - 7-2 - Two wins over the defending champions, two wins over Ravens as well.

#4 Vikings - 8-1 - Nice record. Only quality win was over the Ravens. Only other decent opponent was the Steelers and they lost.

#5 Chargers - 6-3 - Lot of teams tied with 6 wins. Chargers have the biggest current win steak of all of them at 4.

#6 Cardinals - 6-3 - In the college system, they'd probably punish the Patriots for their loss and drop them down around #8-#10, even if everyone "knows" they are better than that. Cardinals have won two in a row.

#7 Steelers - 6-3 - Defending champs probably fell quite a bit with a loss last week

#8 Patriots - 6-3 - Also probably fell quite a bit

#9 Cowboys - 6-3 - Also probably moved down a few pegs from their loss to the Packers

#10 Packers - 5-4 - I could see the college system ranking the Packers just below the Cowboys even though the Pack just beat them.

The Broncos (6-3) would not make it due to a 3 game losing streak.

 

[jurb26]

I'm not sure the Chargers should be ranked ahead of Pitt considering Pitt beat them.

 

[moleculo]

Here's my attempt at applying college methodology to the NFL as of this week. College seems to really like win streaks. Lose one game and you can drop like a rock. #1 Colts - 9-0 - easy enough with their huge win over the Patriots#2 Saints - 9-0 - Big wins against @Eagles, Giants, @Dolphins, Falcons#3 Bengals - 7-2 - Two wins over the defending champions, two wins over Ravens as well.#4 Vikings - 8-1 - Nice record. Only quality win was over the Ravens. Only other decent opponent was the Steelers and they lost.#5 Chargers - 6-3 - Lot of teams tied with 6 wins. Chargers have the biggest current win steak of all of them at 4.#6 Cardinals - 6-3 - In the college system, they'd probably punish the Patriots for their loss and drop them down around #8-#10, even if everyone "knows" they are better than that. Cardinals have won two in a row.#7 Steelers - 6-3 - Defending champs probably fell quite a bit with a loss last week#8 Patriots - 6-3 - Also probably fell quite a bit#9 Cowboys - 6-3 - Also probably moved down a few pegs from their loss to the Packers#10 Packers - 5-4 - I could see the college system ranking the Packers just below the Cowboys even though the Pack just beat them. The Broncos (6-3) would not make it due to a 3 game losing streak.

does the fact that Denver beat 4 of these teams not count for something? I'm pretty sure college football accounts for strength of schedule somehow.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm not sure the Chargers should be ranked ahead of Pitt considering Pitt beat them.

well he said this is the college poll, so its not gonna make any sense

 

[EdwardCat]

I like this. Thanks!

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

It's funny that the Packers make the top-10 and yet you don't give the Vikings any credit for beating them twice. You say " Only quality win was over the Ravens" even though the Ravens aren't in your top-10. The Vikings also are on a longer winning streak than the Bengals.

Actually it's funny that the Pack are in the top-10 at all. They have a far worse loss (Bucs) than most of the other 5-4 teams. Those bad losses are killers in the college rankings.

 

[kaa]

It's funny that the Packers make the top-10 and yet you don't give the Vikings any credit for beating them twice. You say " Only quality win was over the Ravens" even though the Ravens aren't in your top-10. The Vikings also are on a longer winning streak than the Bengals.Actually it's funny that the Pack are in the top-10 at all. They have a far worse loss (Bucs) than most of the other 5-4 teams. Those bad losses are killers in the college rankings.

Being ranked #10 doesn't really mean much because its out of 32 teams. In college there's something like 130 teams, so its comparable to being ranked about #45 in college. The college top 25 is about one-fifth of the landscape. A proper translation to the NFL game would be one-fifth of 32 teams which is roughly 6 teams. I just thought that was not as interesting of a discussion.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I'm not sure the Chargers should be ranked ahead of Pitt considering Pitt beat them.

well he said this is the college poll, so its not gonna make any sense

However, as a West Coast Team, they would be punished by the West Coast BiasTM and as such would be ranked below the East Coast Steelers.

 

[kaa]

I'm not sure the Chargers should be ranked ahead of Pitt considering Pitt beat them.

well he said this is the college poll, so its not gonna make any sense

However, as a West Coast Team, they would be punished by the West Coast BiasTM and as such would be ranked below the East Coast Steelers.

I'll have to add this to my list of reasons to leave the Broncos unranked.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

You should forward this thread to whoever is currently the head of the BCS to show them how utterly ridiculous their system is.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Here's my attempt at applying college methodology to the NFL as of this week. College seems to really like win streaks. Lose one game and you can drop like a rock. #1 Colts - 9-0 - easy enough with their huge win over the Patriots#2 Saints - 9-0 - Big wins against @Eagles, Giants, @Dolphins, Falcons#3 Bengals - 7-2 - Two wins over the defending champions, two wins over Ravens as well.#4 Vikings - 8-1 - Nice record. Only quality win was over the Ravens. Only other decent opponent was the Steelers and they lost.#5 Chargers - 6-3 - Lot of teams tied with 6 wins. Chargers have the biggest current win steak of all of them at 4.#6 Cardinals - 6-3 - In the college system, they'd probably punish the Patriots for their loss and drop them down around #8-#10, even if everyone "knows" they are better than that. Cardinals have won two in a row.#7 Steelers - 6-3 - Defending champs probably fell quite a bit with a loss last week#8 Patriots - 6-3 - Also probably fell quite a bit#9 Cowboys - 6-3 - Also probably moved down a few pegs from their loss to the Packers#10 Packers - 5-4 - I could see the college system ranking the Packers just below the Cowboys even though the Pack just beat them. The Broncos (6-3) would not make it due to a 3 game losing streak.

1st point -- If the NFL used BCS ranking the Patriots would still be #3.2nd point -- No, here would be the top 10:1 -- Colts2 -- Saints3-32 -- doesn't matter, you don't get to participate.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

Here's my attempt at applying college methodology to the NFL as of this week. College seems to really like win streaks. Lose one game and you can drop like a rock. #1 Colts - 9-0 - easy enough with their huge win over the Patriots#2 Saints - 9-0 - Big wins against @Eagles, Giants, @Dolphins, Falcons#3 Bengals - 7-2 - Two wins over the defending champions, two wins over Ravens as well.#4 Vikings - 8-1 - Nice record. Only quality win was over the Ravens. Only other decent opponent was the Steelers and they lost.#5 Chargers - 6-3 - Lot of teams tied with 6 wins. Chargers have the biggest current win steak of all of them at 4.#6 Cardinals - 6-3 - In the college system, they'd probably punish the Patriots for their loss and drop them down around #8-#10, even if everyone "knows" they are better than that. Cardinals have won two in a row.#7 Steelers - 6-3 - Defending champs probably fell quite a bit with a loss last week#8 Patriots - 6-3 - Also probably fell quite a bit#9 Cowboys - 6-3 - Also probably moved down a few pegs from their loss to the Packers#10 Packers - 5-4 - I could see the college system ranking the Packers just below the Cowboys even though the Pack just beat them. The Broncos (6-3) would not make it due to a 3 game losing streak.

1st point -- If the NFL used BCS ranking the Patriots would still be #3.2nd point -- No, here would be the top 10:1 -- Colts2 -- Saints3-32 -- doesn't matter, you don't get to participate.

Actually, it would probably be:#1 -- Colts 9-0#2 -- Vikings 8-1#3 -- Saints 9-0 - (Non-BCS Conference)

 

[kaa]

Week 11:

#1 Colts 10-0 (LW #1): Continuing to win.

#2 Saints 10-0 (LW #2): Same.

#3 Vikings 9-1 (LW #4): Crushed Seahawks.

#4 Chargers 7-3 (LW #5): A 5 game win streak moves them up.

#5 Cardinals 7-3 (LW #6): Cardinals have a 3 game win streak and have won 6 of 7.

#6 Patriots 7-3 (LW #8): Jump two spots with a big win over the Jets.

#7 Packers 6-4 (LW #10): 2 game win streak including big win over Cowboys vaults them 3 spots.

#8 Cowboys 7-3 (LW #9): Won ugly over the Redskins.

#9 Bengals 7-3 (LW #3): Ugly loss to Raiders.

#10 Jaguars 6-4 (LW unranked): 3 game win streak moves them into the top 10.

Falling out of top 10:

Steelers 6-4 (LW #7)

 

[kaa]

Week 13:

#1 Colts 12-0

#2 Saints 12-0

#3 Chargers 9-3: whopping 7 game win streak moves them to the 3rd slot

#4 Vikings 10-2: a loss drops them, but not much

#5 Packers 8-4: 4 game win streak including big wins over Cowboys and Ravens has them very high

#6 Bengals 9-3

#7 Eagles 8-4: Won 3 straight

#8 Cardinals 8-4: Big win over formerly 10-1 Vikings

#9 Broncos 8-4

#10 Cowboys 8-4: Lost last game

Out of the top 10 since two weeks ago:

Patriots, Jaguars

 

[kaa]

Week 14:

#1 Colts (LW:1) 13-0

#2 Saints (LW:2) 13-0

#3 Chargers (LW:3) 10-3: 8 game win streak, beat Cowboys in Dallas

#4 Vikings (LW:3) 11-2: Blasted Bengals

#5 Packers (LW:5) 9-4: 5 game win streak including wins over Cowboys and Ravens

#6 Eagles (LW: 7) 9-4: Won 4 straight

#7 Bengals (LW:6) 9-4

#8 Jets (LW: --) 7-6: 3 game win streak moves them into the top 10

#9 Patriots (LW: --) 8-5

#10 Broncos (LW:9) 8-5

Out of top 10:

Cardinals, Cowboys

 

[TWP]

I think college ranking formula takes SOS into account more heavily than you are giving credit for...

 

[kaa]

I think college ranking formula takes SOS into account more heavily than you are giving credit for...

Teams are much more evenly balanced in the NFL though. The talent gap between the Colts and the Browns is there but nowhere as big as a major program and some of the smaller schools. In effect, all schedules are strong in the NFL.

 

[gianmarco]

Just curious why the Saints wouldn't have leapfrogged Indy after their big win against the Patriots. Especially when it was noted in the OP under Indy that it was a big portion of their ranking.

 

[kaa]

Week 15:

#1 Colts (LW:1) 14-0

#2 Chargers (LW:3) 11-3: 9 game win streak, just beat Bengals

#3 Saints (LW:2) 13-1: Lost to Cowboys

#4 Eagles (LW:6) 10-4: 5 game win streak

#5 Vikings (LW:4) 11-3: Blown out by unranked Panthers

#6 Patriots (LW:9) 9-5: 2 game win streak, defense holding to 10 ppg

#7 Cowboys (LW: --) 9-5: Beat undefeated Saints

#8 Ravens (LW: --) 8-6: Two blowout wins in a row

#9 Packers (LW:5) 9-5

#10 Bengals (LW:7) 9-5

Out of top 10: Jets, Broncos

 

[kaa]

Just curious why the Saints wouldn't have leapfrogged Indy after their big win against the Patriots. Especially when it was noted in the OP under Indy that it was a big portion of their ranking.

If they both stayed undefeated, then the BCS bowl would be easily Saints vs Colts. So it wouldn't really matter how they are ranked.

 

[kaa]

Week 16:

#1 Chargers (LW:2) 12-3: 10 game win streak

#2 Colts (LW:1) 14-1: Lost to Jets

#3 Eagles (LW:4) 11-4: 6 game win streak

#4 Saints (LW:3) 13-2

#5 Patriots (LW:6) 10-5: 3 game win streak

#6 Cowboys (LW:7) 10-5

#7 Cardinals (LW:--) 10-5

#8 Vikings (LW:5) 11-4

#9 Packers (LW:9) 10-5

#10 Bengals (LW:10) 10-5

Out of top 10: Ravens

 

[Voice Of Reason]

I think you are failing to account for big market vs small market teams and teams that travel well vs teams that don't.

New England and Philly should be 1 and 2 with Dallas right behidn

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't see how Dallas is ahead of Green Bay. The Packers handled them pretty easily.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

You should forward this thread to whoever is currently the head of the BCS to show them how utterly ridiculous their system is.

Yes, no need for playoffs, just #1 Colts vs #2 Saints. forget the rest of the NFL.