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Top 10 WRs so far? Rank yours! (1 Viewer)

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Let's keep this discussion to NON-PPR keeper/dynasty formats.

Here are my top 10 WRs based on what I've seen this season (Not just points scored)

Fitz

R. Wayne

Calvin Johnson

R. Moss

Andre Johnson

Roddy White

Colston

Marshall

Ochocinco

V. Jackson

Crabtree, both Smiths, Boldin, DeSean Jackson, Nicks & Bowe all close runner ups.

 
1. Reggie Wayne

2. Andre Johnson

3. Randy Moss

4. Vincent Jackson

5. Chad Ochocinco

6. Santonio Holmes

7. Sidney Rice

8. Miles Austin

9. Marques Colston

10. R. White

Sorry, my list was based on rest of the season stats...not dynasty.

 
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DeSean Jackson has to be top 10 dynasty right now. I've got him and Randy Moss on a dynasty team, and I would trade Randy before DeSean every time.

 
1. Larry Fitzgerald

2. Andre Johnson

3. Reggie Wayne

4. Randy Moss

5. Vincent Jackson (Only 1 game he didnt catch a TD or have 100 vs Steelers)

6. M Colston

7. Deshaun Jackson

8. Calvin Johnson (Took a step back could take some time to see 10 Scores again)

9. Roddy White

10 Chad Johnson (back to the top 10)

 
1. Reggie Wayne2. Andre Johnson3. Randy Moss4. Vincent Jackson5. Chad Ochocinco6. Santonio Holmes7. Sidney Rice8. Miles Austin9. Marques Colston 10. R. WhiteSorry, my list was based on rest of the season stats...not dynasty.
No Fitz?
 
You guys have Austin as a top 10 dynasty WR after just 2 weeks?
:lol: he has Crabtree "close" after one.
Crabtree, both Smiths, Boldin, DeSean Jackson, Nicks & Bowe all close runner ups.
1. Fitz2. AJ

3. CJ

4. Colston

5. RMoss

6. VJax

7. RWayne

8. DJax

9. White

10. Nicks
Crabtree and Austin are entirely different animals. Austin has been in the league 4 years - Crabtree about 4 weeks. One was one of the most highly touted WRs in his draft class. Austin couldn't beat out guys on his own team given an entire preseason and training camp. But I do like your list. :confused:

 
For dynasty I'd have to rank them:

1. A. Johnson

2. Colston

3. C. Johnson

4. Fitz

5. R. Moss

6. Wayne

7. V. Jackson

8. R. White

9. D. Jackson

10. B. Marshall

Some honorable mentions in no particular order:

S. Holmes, S. Smith (NYG), Manningham, Rice, Bowe and Jennings (you all remember him right?).

 
1. AJ

2. Fitz

3. VJax

4. Calvin

5. Colston

6. Wayne

7. Jennings

8. White

9. Marshall

10. Moss

HM: Sims-Walker, DJax, Nicks, Ocho.

 
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For dynasty I'd have to rank them:1. A. Johnson2. Colston3. C. Johnson4. Fitz5. R. Moss6. Wayne7. V. Jackson8. R. White9. D. Jackson10. B. MarshallSome honorable mentions in no particular order:S. Holmes, S. Smith (NYG), Manningham, Rice, Bowe and Jennings (you all remember him right?).
Does that say Manningham form the Giants?It's kinda strange because if it is then three of the NYG have been mentioned in this thread. Some believe Nicks will be the guy, some Smith, but I'm not so sure about Manningham.
 
Sure its homerish... but Mike Wallace has looked great in his rookie season.

I could see him moving into Holmes' spot & Holmes moving to to Ward's position in a couple of years when Ward is gone.

 
1. Larry Fitzgerald, ARI - No doubt he's #1 on my list

2. Andre Johnson, HOU - Obvious #2 now that Schaub is looking this good and staying healthy

3. Calvin Johnson, DET - falls off a little bit here but he will be in the top 2 in 3 years

4. Reggie Wayne, IND - getting older but Manning will continue to make him a stud for years

5. Randy Moss, NE - I don't think he will be up in the top 10 for much longer, but a beast while he is

6. Roddy White, ATL - Him and Matt Ryan will continue to get better together

7. Vincent Jackson, SD - This guy is showing what he can do. Rivers needs to throw it up to him more.

8. Marques Colston, NO - Best WR on Drew Brees team. Brees will continue to give him the ball

9. Greg Jennings, GB - He still has it and Rodgers will find a way to get it to him

10. Chad Ocho Cinco, CIN - He's baaack. Chad will be top 10 as long as Carson stays healthy

HM: DeSean Jackson, PHI - Dwayne Bowe, KC - Percy Harvin, MIN - Brandon Marshall, DEN (I think Marshall will do something stupid again soon) - Michael Crabtree, SF (I think Crabtree will be in the top 10 by next year or before)

 
Why is DeSean a lock for top 10?

Jennings was widely considered a lock last year...not so much today.

Remember Lee Evans? He was expected to become the next super star.

I like DeSean and can't argue against someone picking him top ten. But I'm not sold he has the talent and build to become a top 10 wr year after year.

My picks for top 10 (yes I've listed more than 10...I view most of these guys in the same tier and would be okay exchanging one name for another):

Randy Moss (he's older but still looks amazing...I expect another couple years out of him).

Andre

Fitz

Wayne

Calvin

OchoCinco

Steve Smith South

MSW

V-Jax

Marshall

Roddy White

Colston

I don't generally go more than a few years into the future. Wayne, Ocho, Steve South, and Moss are a bit older but I don't see why they shouldn't have a couple more elite years. I would rather have a guy who is going to be elite for a couple more years than a player who may or may not become elite at any point in his career.

 
Why is DeSean a lock for top 10?Jennings was widely considered a lock last year...not so much today.Remember Lee Evans? He was expected to become the next super star.I like DeSean and can't argue against someone picking him top ten. But I'm not sold he has the talent and build to become a top 10 wr year after year.My picks for top 10 (yes I've listed more than 10...I view most of these guys in the same tier and would be okay exchanging one name for another):Randy Moss (he's older but still looks amazing...I expect another couple years out of him).AndreFitzWayneCalvinOchoCincoSteve Smith SouthMSWV-Jax MarshallRoddy WhiteColstonI don't generally go more than a few years into the future. Wayne, Ocho, Steve South, and Moss are a bit older but I don't see why they shouldn't have a couple more elite years. I would rather have a guy who is going to be elite for a couple more years than a player who may or may not become elite at any point in his career.
How about because Deshaun Jackson is infinitely more talented than Lee Evans & is in a way more enviable situation going forward. I question how often you've seen him play if you question his level of talent. You have no problems putting MSW on your list who has far less credentials & ridiculous injury history. I don't get it.
 
from a dynasty perspective I can see how djax is lower than 10. The kolb thing would be cause for concern.

 
In dynasty, based on age, situation (offense, QB talent, QB age) and talent, I would rank them:

1) Andre

2) VJax

3) Calvin

4) Fitz

5) Roddy White

6) Colston

7) Wayne

8) Ochocinco

9) R Moss

10) Marshall

Close: Santonio, MSW, Rice, Steve Smith (both of them), Welker

 
DoubleG said:
FUBAR said:
Mr. Peterson said:
You guys have Austin as a top 10 dynasty WR after just 2 weeks?
:shrug: he has Crabtree "close" after one.
Magic_Man said:
Crabtree, both Smiths, Boldin, DeSean Jackson, Nicks & Bowe all close runner ups.
1. Fitz2. AJ

3. CJ

4. Colston

5. RMoss

6. VJax

7. RWayne

8. DJax

9. White

10. Nicks
Crabtree and Austin are entirely different animals. Austin has been in the league 4 years - Crabtree about 4 weeks. One was one of the most highly touted WRs in his draft class. Austin couldn't beat out guys on his own team given an entire preseason and training camp. But I do like your list. :thumbup:
I agree that they're different, but I don't see putting Crabtree ahead of many WRs based on 1 game or his college performance / apparent ability. Way too many WRs with his level of talent have busted and I'm not convinced his mind is right. It will take a year or two for me to be convinced - and I was a fan of his from college, this hold out just makes me wonder about his decision making.
 
We're talking dynasty, so you have to put more stock into guys that have proven QBs that are sure to be there for a few years.

My list would be:

1. Vincent Jackson SD (he's been the most impressive WR this year IMO and I think he's gonna get better)

2. Andre Johnson HOU

3. Calvin Johnson DET

4. Larry Fitzgerald ARI

5. Reggie Wayne IND

6. Marques Coltson NO

7. Randy Moss NE

8. Wes Welker NE

9. Greg Jennings GB

10. Roddy White ATL

Honorable Mention: (some of these are only not up there based on age or QB situation) Brandon Marshall DEN, Mike Sims-Walker JAC, Sidney Rice MIN, Miles Austin DAL, Steve Smith NYG, Steve Smith CAR, Hakeem Nicks NYG, Desean Jackson PHI

 
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DoubleG said:
FUBAR said:
Mr. Peterson said:
You guys have Austin as a top 10 dynasty WR after just 2 weeks?
:shrug: he has Crabtree "close" after one.
Magic_Man said:
Crabtree, both Smiths, Boldin, DeSean Jackson, Nicks & Bowe all close runner ups.
1. Fitz2. AJ

3. CJ

4. Colston

5. RMoss

6. VJax

7. RWayne

8. DJax

9. White

10. Nicks
Crabtree and Austin are entirely different animals. Austin has been in the league 4 years - Crabtree about 4 weeks. One was one of the most highly touted WRs in his draft class. Austin couldn't beat out guys on his own team given an entire preseason and training camp. But I do like your list. :goodposting:
I agree that they're different, but I don't see putting Crabtree ahead of many WRs based on 1 game or his college performance / apparent ability. Way too many WRs with his level of talent have busted and I'm not convinced his mind is right. It will take a year or two for me to be convinced - and I was a fan of his from college, this hold out just makes me wonder about his decision making.
I don't disagree - Crabtree doesn't belong on the list, but neither does Austin.
 
Magic_Man said:
Let's keep this discussion to NON-PPR keeper/dynasty formats.
We have to start different threads for PPR? What PPR players do people like and please quote this post when answering
 
Anyone not ranking Fitz in the Top-2 is out of their tree. It's absurd.
Not really. Warner is going to be retired soon and there is no way to know what kind of situation Fitz will find himself in at that time. I think Fitz is the most talented WR in the game, but I have him ranked 4th on my list.
 
Welker not mentioned once?
Not as a Top 10 dynasty guy. Top 12-16, sure. Welker is the #2 on his team, he is 28 (not old, but not young like Colston or Fitz), and he doesn't score enough TDs to be a top 10 guy (he has 11 the last two years combined). Virtually everyone else on the list is the #1 on their own team - and scores TDs.
 
Welker not mentioned once?
Not as a Top 10 dynasty guy. Top 12-16, sure. Welker is the #2 on his team, he is 28 (not old, but not young like Colston or Fitz), and he doesn't score enough TDs to be a top 10 guy (he has 11 the last two years combined). Virtually everyone else on the list is the #1 on their own team - and scores TDs.
I'd agree with this.PPR - Welker is top 10 imo.
 
Anyone not ranking Fitz in the Top-2 is out of their tree. It's absurd.
Not really. Warner is going to be retired soon and there is no way to know what kind of situation Fitz will find himself in at that time. I think Fitz is the most talented WR in the game, but I have him ranked 4th on my list.
Actually, I think Fitz is similar to Calvin Johnson, in that it doesn't matter who his QB is. He is so freakishly talented, if they throw passes at all, he'll get his. I think some of the honorable mention guys are more dependant on their QB/situation. DJax, VJax and Steve Smith (CAR) are perfect examples.
 
Magic_Man said:
Let's keep this discussion to NON-PPR keeper/dynasty formats.
We have to start different threads for PPR? What PPR players do people like and please quote this post when answering
PPR is all I really play, so...1. Calvin - A PHREAK!!! Could quickly move down to #3 if the injuries keep happening.2. Fitz - Stud, year in and year out.3. A.J. - constant injuries to him and Schaub leave me leary of putting Heathen Hell-Beast higher.4. Wayne - Still several years left with Peyton.5. MSW - PPG, he's a madman... with Garrard throwing him the ball. Yes, I completely overlook his past, he's shown me enough.6. Welker - He's younger than most think, and he has years left with Brady.7. VJax - Now that SD can't run like they used to, this guy's ceiling just went WAY up.8. Colston - 10 TDs a year is almost a lock with Brees throwing to him.9. Roddy - Not spectacular, but very good, every year. In his prime with at least 5+ years left in him.10. Q - PPG is as big of a beast as there is. Misses lots of time due to injury, but when healthy he's almost a lock for 20 points.
 
Welker not mentioned once?
Not as a Top 10 dynasty guy. Top 12-16, sure. Welker is the #2 on his team, he is 28 (not old, but not young like Colston or Fitz), and he doesn't score enough TDs to be a top 10 guy (he has 11 the last two years combined). Virtually everyone else on the list is the #1 on their own team - and scores TDs.
I'd agree with this.PPR - Welker is top 10 imo.
Guess who is the #1 PPR WR right now on a PPG basis?
 
Magic_Man said:
Let's keep this discussion to NON-PPR keeper/dynasty formats.
We have to start different threads for PPR? What PPR players do people like and please quote this post when answering
PPR is all I really play, so...1. Calvin - A PHREAK!!! Could quickly move down to #3 if the injuries keep happening.2. Fitz - Stud, year in and year out.3. A.J. - constant injuries to him and Schaub leave me leary of putting Heathen Hell-Beast higher.4. Wayne - Still several years left with Peyton.5. MSW - PPG, he's a madman... with Garrard throwing him the ball. Yes, I completely overlook his past, he's shown me enough.6. Welker - He's younger than most think, and he has years left with Brady.7. VJax - Now that SD can't run like they used to, this guy's ceiling just went WAY up.8. Colston - 10 TDs a year is almost a lock with Brees throwing to him.9. Roddy - Not spectacular, but very good, every year. In his prime with at least 5+ years left in him.10. Q - PPG is as big of a beast as there is. Misses lots of time due to injury, but when healthy he's almost a lock for 20 points.
Don't get me wrong... I like MSW and all, but his knee issues are still a red flag for me. Until he shows that he can finish the remainder of the season without a recurring injury to the knee. I couldn't bring myself to take him over the likes of Vjax, Colston, Welker, etc.Mine:1. Calvin Johnson, DET 2. Larry Fitzgerald, ARI 3. Andre Johnson, HOU4. Reggie Wayne, IND5. Wes Welker, NE6. Greg Jennings, GB 7. Roddy White, ATL 8. Marques Colston, NO 9. Vincent Jackson, SD10. Randy Moss, NE Jennings is a big time buy low.
 
Welker not mentioned once?
Not as a Top 10 dynasty guy. Top 12-16, sure. Welker is the #2 on his team, he is 28 (not old, but not young like Colston or Fitz), and he doesn't score enough TDs to be a top 10 guy (he has 11 the last two years combined). Virtually everyone else on the list is the #1 on their own team - and scores TDs.
I'd agree with this.PPR - Welker is top 10 imo.
Guess who is the #1 PPR WR right now on a PPG basis?
in my league Welker :lmao: and has been 11 and 12th the prior 2 years.
 
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Andre Johnson

Reggie Wayne

Larry Fitzgerald

Randy Moss

Vincent Jackson

Brandon Marshall

DeSean Jackson

Chad Ochocinco

Miles Austin

Wes Welker

 
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Anyone not ranking Fitz in the Top-2 is out of their tree. It's absurd.
Not really. Warner is going to be retired soon and there is no way to know what kind of situation Fitz will find himself in at that time. I think Fitz is the most talented WR in the game, but I have him ranked 4th on my list.
Actually, I think Fitz is similar to Calvin Johnson, in that it doesn't matter who his QB is. He is so freakishly talented, if they throw passes at all, he'll get his. I think some of the honorable mention guys are more dependant on their QB/situation. DJax, VJax and Steve Smith (CAR) are perfect examples.
Right. And that's much more than a subtle point in Dynasty leagues -- it's the entire point. You want a player who can maintain top value despite the situation going on around him (i.e. S-Jax). And when the situation is ideal, they'll produce better than anyone at their position. Fitz will produce like a stud no matter who the quarterback is. Don't overthink it.
 
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Wow. Miles Austin getting Top-10 votes for two games.

Johnny Come Lately, the new kid in town ... :popcorn:

 
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Don't get me wrong... I like MSW and all, but his knee issues are still a red flag for me. Until he shows that he can finish the remainder of the season without a recurring injury to the knee. I couldn't bring myself to take him over the likes of Vjax, Colston, Welker, etc.
That's a common misperception about MSW.To quote from http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...982&st=150:

"He's had ONE injury that required surgery, and it has been 100% since before the start of the 2008 season. All the rest is small stuff that other players go through. Nothing chronic with the knees. MCL sprain (+ fluky staph infection). High ankle sprain. IMO nothing that matters going forward."--Couch Potato

That's only a small snippet of the information in that thread.

 
Don't get me wrong... I like MSW and all, but his knee issues are still a red flag for me. Until he shows that he can finish the remainder of the season without a recurring injury to the knee. I couldn't bring myself to take him over the likes of Vjax, Colston, Welker, etc.
That's a common misperception about MSW.To quote from http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...982&st=150:

"He's had ONE injury that required surgery, and it has been 100% since before the start of the 2008 season. All the rest is small stuff that other players go through. Nothing chronic with the knees. MCL sprain (+ fluky staph infection). High ankle sprain. IMO nothing that matters going forward."--Couch Potato

That's only a small snippet of the information in that thread.
He had the college injury and I recall it flaring up his rookie year. I know he's had a bunch of other injuries, but could have sworn it acted up again.Anyway... I love MSW's talent, injury or not... can't bring him up there just yet (inside the top 10)

 

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