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Top 101 Movies of the 80s (1 Viewer)

None of today’s picks are on my snub list. Remember my list doesn’t contain 5-6 obvious picks that we all know will get picked like Top Gun. In fact if we’re doing a best of the rest, I kind of hope my list stays intact. So keep the artsy fartsies going!!
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
 
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Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
most iconic movie that represents their childhood.
 
None of today’s picks are on my snub list. Remember my list doesn’t contain 5-6 obvious picks that we all know will get picked like Top Gun. In fact if we’re doing a best of the rest, I kind of hope my list stays intact. So keep the artsy fartsies going!!
Yeah, if Top Gun wasn't even one you had in mind, my O/U was too high.
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
Yup, and as I said, I treated mine largely as a "desert Island" list and tried to mix in new to me stuff, 80s staples, and Oscar darlings. Still all movies I love and stand behind, but just purely subjective and as you said - just trying to stimulate some focused movie talk and maybe get some posters to try a new movie or two they haven't heard of or gotten around to.
 
I guess I'm on an island not caring about either Top Gun movies and their cheesiness.
The original was okay and I've seen it a few times. But I don't get the over the top love for Maverick at all.

The original's opening, with Danger Zone playing over it, is pretty epic though.
 
I’m starting a list as well, I don’t really care to rank things though so I can just chime in with whatever stuff you guys don’t cover in the next 100 or whatever
 
oh yeah! honestly... I don't remember much from the movie other than my overall impression. but right! I do now remember thinking he was trying way too hard to do Jack
Originally, I disliked the character because I missed the satire of JD. I caught the girls, way b***chy and over the top (did you eat a brain tumor for breakfast?), but JD was a satire of teenage girls' idea of outsider cool, he wasn't supposed to be cool. And he wasn't. Which annoyed me, but once I realized he was a caricature too, it was much better to watch.

But the Nicholson thing was still distracting.
 
None of today’s picks are on my snub list. Remember my list doesn’t contain 5-6 obvious picks that we all know will get picked like Top Gun. In fact if we’re doing a best of the rest, I kind of hope my list stays intact. So keep the artsy fartsies going!!
Yeah, if Top Gun wasn't even one you had in mind, my O/U was too high.

Yeah sorry. If I'm including every remaining snub, the initial list is longer. This was a list of movies I thought had a good shot at being snubbed.

For a potential best of the rest list, this would be my criteria.

- Personal favorite 80s movies. The difference between 80s movies and movies from the 80s has been discussed and I would be planted firmly in the former.
- Dramas would not be excluded and I can certainly think of a few that are on my list, but my list would probably not have any art smelling of farts.
- I generally don't give a rat's *** how well a movie has aged outside of any egregious factors. This is about celebrating nostalgia as a kid who embraced everything about growing up in the 80s.

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None of today’s picks are on my snub list. Remember my list doesn’t contain 5-6 obvious picks that we all know will get picked like Top Gun. In fact if we’re doing a best of the rest, I kind of hope my list stays intact. So keep the artsy fartsies going!!
Yeah, if Top Gun wasn't even one you had in mind, my O/U was too high.

Yeah sorry. If I'm including every remaining snub, the initial list is longer. This was a list of movies I thought had a good shot at being snubbed.

For a potential best of the rest list, this would be my criteria.

- Personal favorite 80s movies. The difference between 80s movies and movies from the 80s has been discussed and I would be planted firmly in the former.
- Dramas would not be excluded and I can certainly think of a few that are on my list, but my list would probably not have any art smelling of farts.
- I generally don't give a rat's *** how well a movie has aged outside of any egregious factors. This is about celebrating nostalgia as a kid who embraced everything about growing up in the 80s.

-
There are still at least 8-9 left then that check those boxes, but like I said, if Top Gun wasn't what you were thinking of...
 
#29: FANNY AND ALEXANDER

80s' #78, and my #23. Here's where I probably take triple crap because this is a movie I just watched in the last month for the first time. Along with the 3 "homework" movies that I was tasked with watching before doing this 80s countdown ;), before doing my list I wanted to get through my Bergman autobiography I was reading and get to this one because I knew it was semi-autobiographical. This was the clue I was hinting at that is my new obsession - I watched a handful of Bergman last fall and got hooked, and ending up really digging them all and wanting to dive in more. Since then I got the book (I usually have a movie related book I'm reading), listened to a few pods, bought the Criterion 39 disc set, and dove in head first.

Obviously I dug this movie as well and instantly loved it (yes, I watched the 312 minute cut), but I will also fully admit this was the movie that most got the "desert island" bump, because it would be one of the first I'd want to tackle again and keep digging into. There are other movies that got a similar treatment on my countdowns, being ones I just saw for the for first time as reasearch for this and ended up loving and would want to take to an island with me.
What the **** is this......I am really in the twilight zone......thanks Karma.
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
And this is what makes the thread fun......because there are some off the wall picks here!!!! LOL!!!
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
Yup, and as I said, I treated mine largely as a "desert Island" list and tried to mix in new to me stuff, 80s staples, and Oscar darlings. Still all movies I love and stand behind, but just purely subjective and as you said - just trying to stimulate some focused movie talk and maybe get some posters to try a new movie or two they haven't heard of or gotten around to.
Gotcha. I will immediately start compiling my own 101 list, post it, and hold yours in derision lol
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
And this is what makes the thread fun......because there are some off the wall picks here!!!! LOL!!!
are you saying Fanny & Alexander is off the wall?

just curious. it's widely considered a top "film" of the 80s. but yeah... defintely not an "80s" film
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
And this is what makes the thread fun......because there are some off the wall picks here!!!! LOL!!!
are you saying Fanny & Alexander is off the wall?

just curious. it's widely considered a top "film" of the 80s. but yeah... defintely not an "80s" film
It’s a movie I think you have to be pretty deep into movies to know about it or have seen. It was a big hit relatively speaking but that was 40 years ago. The audience for in 82 were likely people in their 30s-50s who discovered Bergman in the 60s and would be quite old now.
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
And this is what makes the thread fun......because there are some off the wall picks here!!!! LOL!!!
are you saying Fanny & Alexander is off the wall?

just curious. it's widely considered a top "film" of the 80s. but yeah... defintely not an "80s" film
I think some people aren’t taking the list for what it is - most are just looking for a more generic “80s Nostalgia” movie list. Both approaches are fine but some are conflating the two.
 
Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
And this is what makes the thread fun......because there are some off the wall picks here!!!! LOL!!!
are you saying Fanny & Alexander is off the wall?

just curious. it's widely considered a top "film" of the 80s. but yeah... defintely not an "80s" film
I think some people aren’t taking the list for what it is - most are just looking for a more generic “80s Nostalgia” movie list. Both approaches are fine but some are conflating the two.
Yeah, it's gotten a bit ridiculous with the "only movies that celebrate my youth" stuff.

I have a soft spot for stuff like The Last Starfighter as well, but come on.

We both chose a balanced approach, but to be fair if I went all "80s movies", people would still have issues because I don't click with the early comedies and Raiders still wouldn't have been on my list, so :shrug:
 
yeah... it's been an obvious ongoing- bordering on pointless- debate that seems separate from the lists these guys made. because of that, my question to Todem was specifically about Fanny etc for him.

but I think it's great that people looking for nostalgia only might be open to some other great films they might have missed that were adult-geared, rather than kid/family from their childhood. less great that some want to dismiss these great films because they don't fit a very narrow view of what a movie- or list of movies- should be.
 
None of today’s picks are on my snub list. Remember my list doesn’t contain 5-6 obvious picks that we all know will get picked like Top Gun. In fact if we’re doing a best of the rest, I kind of hope my list stays intact. So keep the artsy fartsies going!!
Yeah, if Top Gun wasn't even one you had in mind, my O/U was too high.

Yeah sorry. If I'm including every remaining snub, the initial list is longer. This was a list of movies I thought had a good shot at being snubbed.

For a potential best of the rest list, this would be my criteria.

- Personal favorite 80s movies. The difference between 80s movies and movies from the 80s has been discussed and I would be planted firmly in the former.
- Dramas would not be excluded and I can certainly think of a few that are on my list, but my list would probably not have any art smelling of farts.
- I generally don't give a rat's *** how well a movie has aged outside of any egregious factors. This is about celebrating nostalgia as a kid who embraced everything about growing up in the 80s.

-
We could also have different lines of "egregious" as well. 80s flicks were very rapey and a ton of stuff hasn't held up for me. I'm not saying I refuse to watch then, but many got dinged and rated lower for that stuff on my end. There's many of those in my 80-200 list of movies though.
 
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Please excuse my ignorance, as I don't venture into these threads too often. However, '80's film rankings are irresistible to me.

What criteria are being used for the rankings? IMDB rankings? Rotten Tomatoes? Personal taste? I understand it can't be straight critic reviews/Oscar nominations/etc.(Otherwise one of my favorite movies of all time 'Better off Dead' wouldn't have made the list(barely)).

I will withhold my pitchfork for the time being, as the list isn't finished yet. I will say, though, that I am getting ready to sharpen it....
Just KP and I chat movies a lot both on here and in text messages. We wanted to have a thread to generate some focused movie talk. So we both made a list of the 100 films we consider the best movies of the 80s. This is a combined ranking. So it’s just purely our subjective preferences. Oscars, box office, RT, IMDb didn’t factor at all.
And this is what makes the thread fun......because there are some off the wall picks here!!!! LOL!!!
are you saying Fanny & Alexander is off the wall?

just curious. it's widely considered a top "film" of the 80s. but yeah... defintely not an "80s" film
I think some people aren’t taking the list for what it is - most are just looking for a more generic “80s Nostalgia” movie list. Both approaches are fine but some are conflating the two.
Yeah, it's gotten a bit ridiculous with the "only movies that celebrate my youth" stuff.

I have a soft spot for stuff like The Last Starfighter as well, but come on.

We both chose a balanced approach, but to be fair if I went all "80s movies", people would still have issues because I don't click with the early comedies and Raiders still wouldn't have been on my list, so :shrug:

No spotlighting!
 
yeah... it's been an obvious ongoing- bordering on pointless- debate that seems separate from the lists these guys made. because of that, my question to Todem was specifically about Fanny etc for him.

but I think it's great that people looking for nostalgia only might be open to some other great films they might have missed that were adult-geared, rather than kid/family from their childhood. less great that some want to dismiss these great films because they don't fit a very narrow view of what a movie- or list of movies- should be.
Yeah...that film does not strike me as an “80’s” film. But I get it. I am just poking and having some fun with it to be honest.

It’s all subjective.

And no Karma.....I fully did not expect The Last Starfighter to be in the top 101 LOL!!!!

But there is a great Sci-Fi gem that is a film that to me get’s no credit and my hint is it starred Dennis Quaid and Louis Goesset Jr. I have a soft spot for that little sci-fi movie that could. Would it be in my top 100? Debatable.....there are a bunch of Sci Fi cheesy gems in the 80’s (Battle Beyond The Stars and Flash Gordon anyone?)
 
To the whole idea of what 80s movies were about. If you go and look at the top 5-10 grossing movies of each year, there was a ton of adult geared stuff that was immensely popular. I won’t spoil anything not already ranked but Fatal Attraction was the highest grossing movie of 87. An Officer and a Gentleman was the 3rd highest grossing of 82. Witness was 8th in 85. Even Fanny and Alexander is in the top 25 highest grossing foreign movies in US history.

Adults were seeing a lot of movies in the 80s and they weren’t all Top Gun and Coming to America.
 
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To the whole idea of what 80s movies were about. If you go and look at the top 5-10 grossing movies of each year, there was a ton of adult geared stuff that was immensely popular. I won’t spoil anything not already ranked by Fatal Attraction was the highest grossing movie of 87. An Officer and a Gentleman was the 3rd highest grossing of 82. Witness was 8th in 85. Even Fanny and Alexander is in the top 25 highest grossing foreign movies in US history.

Adults were seeing a lot of movies in the 80s and they weren’t all Top Gun and Coming to America.
And I really enjoyed all of those....except Fanny and Alexander did not connect with me at all and I find a foreign film in the list a little....jarring I guess. And I was 12 when that came out.....so some context around that. So yeah the 80’s were a lot about my youth...but I did watch plenty of serious adult themed movies....and loved a lot of them.
 
yeah... it's been an obvious ongoing- bordering on pointless- debate that seems separate from the lists these guys made. because of that, my question to Todem was specifically about Fanny etc for him.

but I think it's great that people looking for nostalgia only might be open to some other great films they might have missed that were adult-geared, rather than kid/family from their childhood. less great that some want to dismiss these great films because they don't fit a very narrow view of what a movie- or list of movies- should be.
Yeah...that film does not strike me as an “80’s” film. But I get it. I am just poking and having some fun with it to be honest.

It’s all subjective.

And no Karma.....I fully did not expect The Last Starfighter to be in the top 101 LOL!!!!

But there is a great Sci-Fi gem that is a film that to me get’s no credit and my hint is it starred Dennis Quaid and Louis Goesset Jr. I have a soft spot for that little sci-fi movie that could. Would it be in my top 100? Debatable.....there are a bunch of Sci Fi cheesy gems in the 80’s (Battle Beyond The Stars and Flash Gordon anyone?)

Seemed like that movie was always on cable when I was growing up
 
33/34:

A ROOM WITH A VIEW [hbo max, criterion]
THE THING


Our #10 picks of the decade. I added Room with a View to my 5 to watch as I said last night. 80s had me at Helena Bonham-Carter :wub:, and it has DDL in it. If I think about my favorite movies now, The Thing is one of the movies that has climbed the farthest in the last decade or so. This is one I was talking about with f/x holding up better than some others like Predator. Predator I laugh about a bit, The Thing still grosses me out. Then add in the isolation, tension, mystery of who has been taken over.... 👨‍🍳 💋
No idea about first one

I would be OK with The Thing being an 🎨⛽cult classic with a 33 ranking as it has 80s written all over it.
 
None of today’s picks are on my snub list. Remember my list doesn’t contain 5-6 obvious picks that we all know will get picked like Top Gun. In fact if we’re doing a best of the rest, I kind of hope my list stays intact. So keep the artsy fartsies going!!
Yeah, if Top Gun wasn't even one you had in mind, my O/U was too high.

Yeah sorry. If I'm including every remaining snub, the initial list is longer. This was a list of movies I thought had a good shot at being snubbed.

For a potential best of the rest list, this would be my criteria.

- Personal favorite 80s movies. The difference between 80s movies and movies from the 80s has been discussed and I would be planted firmly in the former.
- Dramas would not be excluded and I can certainly think of a few that are on my list, but my list would probably not have any art smelling of farts.
- I generally don't give a rat's *** how well a movie has aged outside of any egregious factors. This is about celebrating nostalgia as a kid who embraced everything about growing up in the 80s.

-
We could also have different lines of "egregious" as well. 80s flicks were very rapey and a ton of stuff hasn't held up for me. I'm not saying I refuse to watch then, but many got dinged and rated lower for that stuff on my end. There's many of those in my 80-200 list of movies though.

Yup. I'm making sure my list takes this stuff into account. One of the films I would have considered has an actual case of animal abuse/torture and I refuse to support or promote it.
 
#32: COMING TO AMERICA

This was on both our lists - at #56 and #53. Another I watched recently and laughed a lot at and thought still holds up. This was another random one I remember my friends and I watching and quoting. Since my first job was (fittingly at the same store, but down the road) at a sort of fast food place, this quote got a ton of run:

"“Hey, I started out mopping the floor just like you guys. But now... now I'm washing lettuce. Soon I'll be on fries; then the grill. In a year or two, I'll make assistant manager, and that's when the big bucks start rolling in.”
Great movie, great placement. Unfortunately the royal draft is not yet clean
 
The barbershop scene from Coming to America is comedy gold.
Correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt this the first major motion picture which included main actors playing lots of different roles? Im sure there are some obscure ones, but this is the only one I remember.
 
The barbershop scene from Coming to America is comedy gold.
Correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt this the first major motion picture which included main actors playing lots of different roles? Im sure there are some obscure ones, but this is the only one I remember.
If you count Cheech and Chong, there was The Corsican Brothers. Or Peter Sellers in Dr. Strangelove.
 
#26: TOP GUN [prime, paramount+]

My #11 and 80s' #84. I will admit, this took more of a ding because the sequel is better, but it's a movie that I always have on tap in my collection and was one of the first 4ks I got, so I had to have it near the top. My dumb friends and I in the dorms put all 4 beds in one room, then had the other across the hall as our movie/music/lounge room. We rigged up no less than 12 speakers in a small dorm room and played this movie way too much. @Ilov80s - you can be my movie wingman anytime. :lol:
I'm not a huge Top Gun guy, but I tend to lean towards the original cuz of the rivalry between Cruise and Kilmer.....talk about epic 80's!.....And typically, I prefer originals over sequels......The flying in the sequel is pretty awesome though!

The thing about Tom Cruise is....as much as I think he's a doosh, and I want to hate him, he's a good actor.....I typically enjoy him in movies....his role as Les Grossman in Tropic Thunder is legendary!
 
#31: BROADCAST NEWS

80s' #3 pick. It's one I was wanting to watch before I finalized my list, but the library copy I got was jacked up. As I said last night, it's one of the 5 I am going to get to.
Oh cmon

Not a bad movie, but 31? Jeez, here we go again.

:penalty:

I mean, if you told me it was your #60, or maybe even #50 fine. But #30? Ahead all of these other comedies? This is just silly.

I have seen this movie one time and have ZERO desire to see it again. Someone tell me why anyone should watch this movie more than 1 time?!?!?
 
#30: FULL METAL JACKET

My #2 movie of the decade, and depending when you ask, maybe my #2 movie overall. Been my favorite Kubrick movie for decades, it's one of the most quotable, well shot, well acted, funniest, harrowing movies I've seen. Love it - and the 2nd half is every bit as good and quotable as the first, dammit.
Excellent pic, excellent placement. Each time I see it I learn something new. Every time its as brutal as the last. I will never forget Alabama black snake either.
 

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