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Top 101 Movies of the 90s. We are done. If I knock out Amadeus/Brazil/Ran, We get to have an 80s countdown!! (1 Viewer)

I was blown away when I saw this. Same with Memento. It would probably be less captivating if I rewatched it, but I never have.
Right, tough to balance a “twist” movie with the initial reaction vs a rewatch. While I agree it’s probably never as good as the first time, that shouldn’t take away from a really well done mystery movie/book. As long as the twist doesn’t seem tacked on or incongruous with the rest of the movie, I’ll tend to defer to that first watch.

 
Also I want to be clear with my list, I was putting movies I personally like. Not most important or any kind of established cannon. It’s just what I think of the movie. 
Same here.  I was interested in an honest look at these movies and what clicked with me in the last couple months.   

 
Usual Suspects

Loved Usual Suspects when I saw it. I was also blown away. Then again, I didn't figure out The Sixth Sense until the end, so I'm the kind of dupe you love to get to look up "gullible" in the dictionary. 

American Beauty 

Loved this movie when it came out. Years later, meh. I remember I worked for a political think tank that had its own magazine and I got into a debate about the movie with the resident movie buff/critic that wrote for other publications. He found it like otb, I found it pretty symbolic and revelatory about certain things. I convolutedly thought it was a send-up of certain things that I was right about (the Anette Benning character not being a sympathetic character was something he really whiffed on) and other things I was just reaching on (I thought Ball's critique of suburbia was so heavy-handed it was actually a meta-critique of critiques of suburbia). Whoops.

 
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I feel bad now because others relate, but I never dug it, either. Guess it was a product of a time I sorta skipped, I guess. ‘93-95 would have been big punk/garage years for me. So no swinging and thinging. 
I was most definitely not into that scene either, but that was just a small part of why the film just didn’t click for me.

 
Usual Suspects

Loved Usual Suspects when I saw it. I was also blown away. Then again, I didn't figure out The Sixth Sense until the end, so I'm the kind of dupe you love to get to look up "gullible" in the dictionary. 

American Beauty 

Loved this movie when it came out. Years later, meh. I remember I worked for a political think tank that had its own magazine and I got into a debate about the movie with the resident movie buff/critic that wrote for other publications. He found it like otb, I found it pretty symbolic and revelatory about certain things. I convolutedly thought it was a send-up of certain things that I was right about (the Anette Benning character not being a sympathetic character was something he really whiffed on) other things I was just reaching on (I thought Ball's critique of suburbia was so heavy-handed it was actually a meta-critique of critiques of suburbia). Whoops.
I didn’t figure out Sixth Sense until the end either. I think I turn off my brain when I watch movies, which is the opposite of what I do when I listen to music. 

I really liked American Beauty when it came out. I have never rewatched it but I don’t think it would hold up well today, and not just because of knowing what Spacey did IRL. However, I am grateful that it paved the way for Alan Ball to create Six Feet Under, one of my favorite TV series.

 
I feel bad now because others relate, but I never dug it, either. Guess it was a product of a time I sorta skipped, I guess. ‘93-95 would have been big punk/garage years for me. So no swinging and thinging. 
Oh, I hated the music (except for watching Heather Graham dance) and hadn't ever been to LA.  But the schmaltzy bad breakup stuff and the hanging out with friends aspects (albeit in a totally different scene) felt pretty spot on.  I wasn't as pathetic as Mikey (hopefully) and none of my goth friends were quite as obnoxious as Trent, but a lot it rang true for me.  Still, it doesn't really hold up other than for nostalgia purposes.

 
86:  AMERICAN BEAUTY

80s had this one a little higher than I did.   Yeah, it's gotten taken down a little bit because of Spacey's real life creepiness and the bag scene such an easy target to spoof.   That said, there are a ton of beats that still hit for me, and I still love the performances.  If I made this list 25 years ago, this would have probably been in the top 10.  
The soundtrack alone is enough to rate this much higher. Thomas Newman's excellent score including Annie Lennox's brilliant Don't Let It bring You Down really add to the film.

 
Casino moved up a lot for me when I rewatched it in the last 6 months. I always liked it but labeled it as Goodfellas-lite and found Stone annoying. Now that I watch it 20 years later, it totally rocks and Stone makes the movie. 
I still agree much more with your initial impression.

 
I liked Casino when I first saw it and still like it. 

But I really, really like cocaine. Which was a problem once. 

 
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HARD EIGHT

Some PTA just making the cut.  Phew.   In my mind I think I had written Hard Eight off a little bit and thought of it as a lower tier PTA.   But rewatching this one gave me a new love for it.   Great debut, and I think this is a PTA that even the haters might actually like since it's more just a straight up crime/noir flick.   Great cast too.  
I liked this and think it is one of his better films, before he went so self indulgent with Magnolia and others.

 
before he went so self indulgent with Magnolia
Wait for it. Wait for it...

I think I can see it...

:scared:

Magnolia was partially autobiographical about his romance with Fiona Apple (The cop and the molestation victim). She even included a boxed in "PTA" in her liner notes of When The Pawn..., which was paritally about him, and don't ask me how I know that, but a #### ton of Afghani product might have had something to do with it. 

 
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I just didn’t get the appeal of this at all when I saw it. It celebrated a brand of hipsterism that I guess I just don’t care for. 
As a person in his early 20’s living in Southern California when it came out it was a perfect mirror of the life me and my boys were living.  

 
I don't know if it celebrated it. The fifty-cent tips let you know that whoever it was wasn't all that hip or that much of a player. The baby scene toward the end confirmed it. He's a loser. He's not cool, never was cool. You (Favreau's character) just bought into it.

Vince Vaughn was the foil the whole time. 

I agree with you, though. I hated them from the jump. 


As a person in his early 20’s living in Southern California when it came out it was a perfect mirror of the life me and my boys were living.  
Guess we wouldn’t have been friends then…….   :scared:

 
the NHL '93 scenes may have reflected my mid-90s life more than anything ever put on film (except I always picked the Capitals and my friends tried to make Peter Bondra's head bleed instead). 
So much this.  The par 3 golf, the speakeasy style local bar scene, the fights in the parking lots over stupid ####, the everyone driving their own ####ty car to the bar in case they hooked up,  finishing the night at a diner, etc etc etc.  It was literally like someone took a camera and followed us around.  Just brings back great memories of my early 20’s.  

 
I will get to a few more and then stop for a bit so I can get some crap done around the house.   Here is another that might get the grumbles from the peanut gallery...

83:  THE USUAL SUSPECTS

On both of our lists, and higher for 80s.   #56 vs. #96.    Still a great movie, but IMO there are a couple types of "twist" movies - ones where the twist aids the rewatches and makes you appreciate the set up more, and ones that once you know what's coming, it becomes more standard movie fare.   My recent revisit pushed this a more into the second category for me.    I would say that something like Memento would be the first category of movie.  
W.T.F.  Should have easily been in the top 50, if not top 25.

Just because you now know the ending and it doesn't make a re-watch as fun doesn't mean its not a great movie.  Seems like a lame way to detract from the movie.

 
why do i get the feeling i might like the back half of y'all's 90s better than the front half? or was the 90s that good?
I have been thinking the same thing.   Some of my favorite movies from the 90s are already off the board!   

This peanut gallery member will keep his mumbling to himself as much as possible though because this isn’t my list and I love these types of threads.  I appreciate the hard work required to generate these lists and don’t want to come across as ungrateful.   

 
W.T.F.  Should have easily been in the top 50, if not top 25.

Just because you now know the ending and it doesn't make a re-watch as fun doesn't mean its not a great movie.  Seems like a lame way to detract from the movie.


this ^

as compelling a flick as any of recent vintage ... definitely deserves to be ranked above all previously mentioned, and i can't find a path not to slot it top 15, at least. 

PS - just saw "In The Name of the Father" was already ticked off ... that's another for a loftier perch than was doled out. 

:shrug:

 
W.T.F.  Should have easily been in the top 50, if not top 25.

Just because you now know the ending and it doesn't make a re-watch as fun doesn't mean its not a great movie.  Seems like a lame way to detract from the movie.
Dude, I literally said in the post you quoted that it was still a great movie.     I think on these countdowns the context that we are basically talking about movies that we think are the 10 best movies each year.   I felt very strongly about my top 30-40 movies.   Then I had a group of about 150-200 movies that I also thought were very good to great to the last 60-70 on my list.   We are splitting hairs here.    It is great storytelling, but when I watched it recently it was exactly that.   It didn't hit me as emotionally as some above it, I liked the direction of some movies above it more, I didn't get anything new out of a rewatch, etc..   

What are your reasons for thinking it should be rated way higher?   Have you watched it recently? 

 
I have been thinking the same thing.   Some of my favorite movies from the 90s are already off the board!   

This peanut gallery member will keep his mumbling to himself as much as possible though because this isn’t my list and I love these types of threads.  I appreciate the hard work required to generate these lists and don’t want to come across as ungrateful.   
Such as?   

 
Dude, I literally said in the post you quoted that it was still a great movie.     I think on these countdowns the context that we are basically talking about movies that we think are the 10 best movies each year.   I felt very strongly about my top 30-40 movies.   Then I had a group of about 150-200 movies that I also thought were very good to great to the last 60-70 on my list.   We are splitting hairs here.    It is great storytelling, but when I watched it recently it was exactly that.   It didn't hit me as emotionally as some above it, I liked the direction of some movies above it more, I didn't get anything new out of a rewatch, etc..   

What are your reasons for thinking it should be rated way higher?   Have you watched it recently? 
No and that's the point.  I was refuting you valuing the re-watch so much and making that discount the initial watching.  Pretty much everyone was blown away by the initial watching of tUS and since so much of that is predicated upon a twist, any re-watching is automatically going to downgrade it because you can never have that shock factor back.

I think you've unfairly removed its #1 trait.

 
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We still have a ton of great movies to get to, ladies and gentlemen.    Trust me, the WTFs and grumbles will get louder when we get to the top 50-60 and you start realizing some of the movies that won't me making an appearance in the countdown.  

 
And for the record, I love the thread and the effort.  The debate and disagreements always make for fun banter.

I'll be following along with great interest for my next chance to call you a fool. 

 
No and that's the point.  I was refuting you valuing the re-watch so much and making that discount the initial watching.  Pretty much everyone was blown away by the initial watching of tUS and since so much of that is predicated upon a twist, any re-watching is automatically going to downgrade it because you can never have that shock factor back.
That's assuming you know what I would have had it ranked before a rewatch.     This wasn't a movie that I had in my top core of 30-40 and then I dropped it 50 spots.  It was firmly in that middle tier of movies, and it made the cut out of those, so that says something if you follow in the main movie thread at all an see exactly how many movies from this era have disappointed on a rewatch these last two months.   

ETA:  I overthink these things and put in a bunch of hours on this and am pretty honest with my rankings when I watch.  There was a movie that I thought would easily be in my top 30 but barely made my cut when I watched again.   

 
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We all do it a different way.  For me, the best of the best have to hold up on a rewatch, and this is a movie list from 2022, not from the 90s - so for me it's 100% how I see the movie now.   This list would be different in 6months if I did it again.  

 
Ok.  Need to run some errands quick, but I will be back in about an hour to do another handful of movies to be ridiculed.  ;)     Looks like a bit of "humor" in the next 10.  

 
Interesting the movies people are taking a stand on.  
The only movie I will be shuked if it's missing starts with "Pul" and ends with "iction". Otherwise, there's a ton of material that is very, very different and you can't expect everyone to have the same opinions on it. 

 
As a suggestion so the peanut gallery can get a nice summary, could you update the first post with a running list as they get revealed for quick reference?  That way it's easier to lodge our complaints and judgements  if you miss a few reveals along the way.

 
As a suggestion so the peanut gallery can get a nice summary, could you update the first post with a running list as they get revealed for quick reference?  That way it's easier to lodge our complaints and judgements  if you miss a few reveals along the way.
That sounds like a lot of work and ####, but yeah - I had planned to do that after every 20-30 movies.    Honestly, the reason I don't as I go more is that I think people just look at that and dip out quick instead of coming in and talking about the selections.  

 
That sounds like a lot of work and ####, but yeah - I had planned to do that after every 20-30 movies.    Honestly, the reason I don't as I go more is that I think people just look at that and dip out quick instead of coming in and talking about the selections.  
I am actually just looking for a quick reference to see how many of these movies I have actually seen.   So the request is 100% selfish on my part...hahaha

So far I think I might be about 50%......some of these I haven't even heard of.  

 
I am actually just looking for a quick reference to see how many of these movies I have actually seen.   So the request is 100% selfish on my part...hahaha

So far I think I might be about 50%......some of these I haven't even heard of.  
Like what?  

 
79/80

MISERY 

BOOMERANG

These are the #50 movies on each of our lists.  I don't know how it became that Boomerang was one of the more watched movies for my group of friends, but we watched and quoted this one all the time.  The wife and I watched it just a bit ago and still loved it and laughed a bunch.  

 
Like what?  
Haven't heard of:

  • Basketball Diaries (maybe heard of it but might be mixing up with other basketball titled movies)
  • Manhattan Murder Mystery
  • Live Flesh
  • Hard Eight
  • La Haine
  • Princess Monoko


  • Seen:  12
  • Haven't Seen but heard of:  5
  • Haven't Heard of:  6
So 12 vs 11.....close to 50%

ETA:  Through Misery (seen) /Boomerang (haven't seen)

 
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I don't get this take at all... fun, funny movie. I guess if you don't like fun, funny movies... there's no reason.
I hadn't seen it until probably a year or two ago.  It was ok.  I didn't think it was as good as the hype made it seem.

 

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