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Top 101 Movies of the 90s. We are done. If I knock out Amadeus/Brazil/Ran, We get to have an 80s countdown!! (5 Viewers)

otb_lifer said:
ngl, that's my favorite part of the x exam. 

:thumbup:

😁

this flick has grown on me ... took me awhile to stomach Moore and Cruise, but i learned to, because the source material is so gripping. 
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I think Moore and Cruise were kind of what left me a little lower on this movie than most. Great script, great movie but I think there are some slight flaws in the casting. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I think Moore and Cruise were kind of what left me a little lower on this movie than most. Great script, great movie but I think there are some slight flaws in the casting. 
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exactly.  

it's grown on me, as i said - but it could've been gargantuan with those necessary tweaks. 

... and don't even get me started on "The Firm" and that malevolent Charlie Brown-esque piannerr score. 

:X

 
62 - THE VIRGIN SUICIDES
 

I love the unsettling and unknowable nature of this film. It’s very gentle and soft yet also  leaves you feeling uncomfortable. Very few films can strike that peculiar balance. Strong cast and an absolutely dynamite score by Air. Which is an appropriate named band for the movie.   It’s like vapor, a dream even.

 
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Ilov80s said:
62 - THE VIRGIN SUICIDES
 

I love the unsettling and unknowable nature of this film. It’s very gentle and soft yet also  leaves you feeling uncomfortable. Very few films can strike that peculiar balance. Strong cast and an absolutely dynamite score by Air. Which is an appropriate named band for the movie.   It’s like vapor, a dream even.
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When I saw your list, this was one that I had forgotten about.  I think there are a handful of late 90s movies and early 00s movies that I incorrectly put in the other decade.    

 
Virgin Suicides is on Hulu.    I realized this am that I slacked a bit looking up if a movie could be streamed if anybody wanted to watch some on the list.  

 
Ilov80s said:
62 - THE VIRGIN SUICIDES
 

I love the unsettling and unknowable nature of this film. It’s very gentle and soft yet also  leaves you feeling uncomfortable. Very few films can strike that peculiar balance. Strong cast and an absolutely dynamite score by Air. Which is an appropriate named band for the movie.   It’s like vapor, a dream even.
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Sofia Coppola = Goddess. 

she leaves an indelible mark on me, whether i'm "meh" (Marie Antoinette) or over the moon, as i was for VS. 

i also laud her for setting Dunst as her muse ... i always saw Kiki as deeper than the industry was probably gonna give her credit for, 11 yr old "Interview With the Vampire" notwithstanding. 

("Bring It On", anyone?)

good thing Von Trier got in on her before the fallout, but that's a whole other convo. 

 
otb_lifer said:
Sofia Coppola = Goddess. 

she leaves an indelible mark on me, whether i'm "meh" (Marie Antoinette) or over the moon, as i was for VS. 

i also laud her for setting Dunst as her muse ... i always saw Kiki as deeper than the industry was probably gonna give her credit for, 11 yr old "Interview With the Vampire" notwithstanding. 

("Bring It On", anyone?)

good thing Von Trier got in on her before the fallout, but that's a whole other convo. 
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How was On the Rocks?   I saw that pop up on Hulu the other day, and I didn't know she had a new movie in the last few years.   I haven't seen that or The Bling Ring, but generally really like what she brings to the table.  

 
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Sofia seems vastly overrated to me. I haven't seen the Virgin Suicides, so I can't comment there.

But Lost In Translation was pretty lame. An interesting set up that went nowhere and just got silly.

The Beguiled was just flat out bad.

 
rockaction said:
I should say that I'm not ripping Glengarry Glen Ross, it was just...meh to me. And it's all subjective, really. Just wasn't my bag of tea the day I chose to watch it. 

I think I would have liked it better on the stage. 
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Fun fact: The Alec Baldwin character and his iconic speech were created for the movie and are not part of the stage production. Any group that receives permission to perform to play has to agree to perform the stage version, without the Baldwin character.

 
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KarmaPolice said:
How was On the Rocks?   I saw that pop up on Hulu the other day, and I didn't know she had a new movie in the last few years.   I haven't seen that or The Bling Ring, but generally really like what she brings to the table.  
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plan on catching up with her later work now that i have the downtime - looking forward to it.

 
Pip's Invitation said:
Fun fact: The Alec Baldwin character and his iconic speech were created for the movie and are not part of the stage production. Any group that receives permission to perform to play has to agree to perform the stage version, without the Baldwin character.
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It was the most cartoony part, but I enjoyed the quotes.  I guess that scene is primarily what made me think of it as a Hollywood attempt at doing something realistic and not getting it right because they really have no idea what it is really like.  Makes sense that it isn't actually a part of the play.

 
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Ilov80s said:
62 - THE VIRGIN SUICIDES
 

I love the unsettling and unknowable nature of this film. It’s very gentle and soft yet also  leaves you feeling uncomfortable. Very few films can strike that peculiar balance. Strong cast and an absolutely dynamite score by Air. Which is an appropriate named band for the movie.   It’s like vapor, a dream even.
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I haven't seen it since the theater. I remember liking the tone of the film- thought she did a great job setting tone, but didn't love the rest... but I admit that could be my own bourgeois sensibilities being uncomfortable with suicide and kids acting stupidly. 

I feel like Coppola always maintained that indelible sense of tone in her films, but often at the expense of the film- style over substance.. concentrating on the background feel of things rather than the foreground story. I'm generally meh to yuck with her movies. but I ####### love her soundtracks- which are basically my soundtracks.

 
lol... it appears OTB and I will never be movie-buddies... unless it's filmed for one of those love/hate it type shows looking at opposite opinions.

 
El Floppo said:
lol... it appears OTB and I will never be movie-buddies... unless it's filmed for one of those love/hate it type shows looking at opposite opinions.
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i'll gladly go to a Sofia Soundtrack listening party with ya ... and we do share a disdain for that sniveling twit Bueller, if memory serves ...

:lol:

PS - speaking of Sofia ... wonder if the flick that spawned "Daaad" *slumps* makes either cut. 

the poor thing's acting was so wooden, totally opposite of her smoldering hot cugini 🇮🇹 goddess self. 

🖤🖤❤🖤🖤

 
otb_lifer said:
PS - speaking of Sofia ... wonder if the flick that spawned "Daaad" *slumps* makes either cut. 

the poor thing's acting was so wooden, totally opposite of her smoldering hot cugini 🇮🇹 goddess self. 

🖤🖤❤🖤🖤
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I don’t hate that movie anywhere near as much as the consensus seems to be, but her performance, yikes.

 
rockaction said:
I should say that I'm not ripping Glengarry Glen Ross, it was just...meh to me. And it's all subjective, really. Just wasn't my bag of tea the day I chose to watch it. 

I think I would have liked it better on the stage. 
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It’s almost as if different people have different tastes!  :D

I like the description previously about it being an exaggerated caricature of what Hollywood “thinks” life is like. Same reason I don’t love American Beauty much either. Also I feel like as someone said, actors love acting dialogue like this even if it’s so exaggerated beyond believability IMO (see Gilmore Girls for example, or Marvelous Mrs Maisel for a more recent example.) Ever since “Greed is good” I feel like Hollywood wanted to one-up each other on the speeches leading to stuff like scenes in GGR, Boiler Room, Wolf of Wall Street, etc. I am sure some film buffs will mention precursors to Wall Street too.

The “male” aspect of the films is also another well thought out point. I can’t recall ever hearing a female say they love GGR and many other “great films” that are very male centric.

Edit: Yowsa, totally forgot that tidbit about Baldwin’s character was added to the movie, thanks for sharing that. Definitely the cringiest part of the “exaggeration” I was talking about.

 
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Buckna said:
I like the description previously about it being an exaggerated caricature of what Hollywood “thinks” life is like. 
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I really don't think this is it.

Stylistic choices are made to convey something that can't come across in straightforward dialog delivery or performance.

The Coen Brothers know people don't exactly talk & act like the people in their movies. But they know that how the performance is delivered can drive home the intent more than playing it straight.

I'll say more when we discuss their movies later. And we BETTER do that! 😠

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
I really don't think this is it.

Stylistic choices are made to convey something that can't come across in straightforward dialog delivery or performance.

The Coen Brothers know people don't exactly talk & act like the people in their movies. But they know that how the performance is delivered can drive home the intent more than playing it straight.

I'll say more when we discuss their movies later. And we BETTER do that! 😠
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:scared:

 
A little because I am lazy, but mostly because the movies come and go a lot on these services, I just posted a link to justwatch at the top of the running list in the OP.   That way people can bookmark or search for things instead of my post being inaccurate in a month.  

 
Fine here’s one that I’m sure isn’t on anyones list

Only The Strong - there may be better movies about kids having to combat gang violence, but only one of them stars Mark Dacascos (the host of Iron Chef) as an ex special forces soldier who teaches the kids the Brazilian dance fighting art of Capoeira to combat the violence 

 
TripItUp said:
Anybody listen to "The Rewatchables" podcast?  Bill Simmons talks about some of the most rewatchable movies of all time.  Several of these were covered and Casino was one of them.

The crux of the Casino episode is that it was better for many upon rewatching.

To me Casino gets #### on because it is always compared to Goodfellas, but had Goodfellas never happened, Casino would get much more love in the rankings world.   

I loved the movie and is easily top 25 of the decade for me, but I love most Scorsese and all things Vegas.
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@TripItUp - not sure others that you listen to, but one of 80s and my favorite pods is The Cine-Files.    Another I've been poking around and listening to because of this list is Podcast Like It's 1999 - they are just watching all the releases of 1999, good and bad.  

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I really don't think this is it.

Stylistic choices are made to convey something that can't come across in straightforward dialog delivery or performance.

The Coen Brothers know people don't exactly talk & act like the people in their movies. But they know that how the performance is delivered can drive home the intent more than playing it straight.

I'll say more when we discuss their movies later. And we BETTER do that! 😠
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And the funny thing is I love Coen movies!

I love stylistic choices like that and I’m not sure how to articulate the difference or where I would draw the line. I think a prime example of this is like Jennifer Jason Leigh in Hudsucker vs Baldwin in GGR. JJL I love, Baldwin I find so over the top that it’s ridiculous (even if awesomely quotable lines.)

 
Buckna said:
And the funny thing is I love Coen movies!

I love stylistic choices like that and I’m not sure how to articulate the difference or where I would draw the line. I think a prime example of this is like Jennifer Jason Leigh in Hudsucker vs Baldwin in GGR. JJL I love, Baldwin I find so over the top that it’s ridiculous (even if awesomely quotable lines.)
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But I think he has to be to get above the top false bravado of the other characters.

He might very well have his own issues but he sure as hell isn't going to show it in front of those losers.

Without it, there's no context as to why the underlings are just jokers - guys that behind all their profane bluster are, sadly, terrified.

 
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Pip's Invitation said:
I don’t hate that movie anywhere near as much as the consensus seems to be, but her performance, yikes.
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it was the casting ... only two who seemed to fit were Keaton, 'cause i bought her as a finely matured Kate, and Shire - because i always portended that Connie would grow more ruthless as the years wore on with Michael - she told him in the boathouse that she "wanted to come" to "take care" of him, but i was always under the impression that there was a ton of meat left on Connie's bone for a heel turn, if you will - loved seeing Talia chew it up. 

Pacino IS Michael, but it just felt off ... dunno - i couldn't buy the MC of I & II as being the cropped coif waffler we saw in III.  and that voice ... a combo of Ricky Roma and Gena Rowlands. dafuq happened? he had throat cancer? anybody?

Mantegna's Joey ZAH-ZAH was the lowpoint ... like some wannabe scemo hamming it for kicks at a Schenectady dinner theater.  awful. 

further, i guess they never bothered to catch Wallach's previous attempt at Italian, as a gepetto like figure in the ill-fated early 80s drama "The Pride of Jesse Holcomb" (oh, man ... Johnny Cash , WHY?) - all because Jimmy Caan pulled it off ... (or, to a lesser extent, Winkler). 

and if Sofia was wooden, then Garcia was plastic. Andy has never impressed as being any more than a dollar store sub for when the $5 actor passes on a project ... TTDIDWYD might be the only thing i can stomach him in, but maybe that's because i get to indulge my Fairuza Balk cravings, if only for a few minutes. 

i will watch III if i happen to stumble upon it, i do enjoy looking at Sofia - and the story is none too shabby ... but i can't buy that gaggle of greenhorns as "Corleone".

 
61 - CLUELESS 

I remember my best friend and I were in 8th grade and we were big fans of Silverstone’s “work” in music videos so we saw this opening weekend. We didn’t get the same thrill we got from her Aerosmith videos but we both laughed our asses off at the movie. After though, being guys we spent awhile pretending like it wasn’t good because you know, it was a bunch of girls. Now I can enjoy it without the ridiculous faux macho adolescent POV. It’s an absolute teen classic. 

 
otb_lifer said:
it was the casting ... only two who seemed to fit were Keaton, 'cause i bought her as a finely matured Kate, and Shire - because i always portended that Connie would grow more ruthless as the years wore on with Michael - she told him in the boathouse that she "wanted to come" to "take care" of him, but i was always under the impression that there was a ton of meat left on Connie's bone for a heel turn, if you will - loved seeing Talia chew it up. 

Pacino IS Michael, but it just felt off ... dunno - i couldn't buy the MC of I & II as being the cropped coif waffler we saw in III.  and that voice ... a combo of Ricky Roma and Gena Rowlands. dafuq happened? he had throat cancer? anybody?

Mantegna's Joey ZAH-ZAH was the lowpoint ... like some wannabe scemo hamming it for kicks at a Schenectady dinner theater.  awful. 

further, i guess they never bothered to catch Wallach's previous attempt at Italian, as a gepetto like figure in the ill-fated early 80s drama "The Pride of Jesse Holcomb" (oh, man ... Johnny Cash , WHY?) - all because Jimmy Caan pulled it off ... (or, to a lesser extent, Winkler). 

and if Sofia was wooden, then Garcia was plastic. Andy has never impressed as being any more than a dollar store sub for when the $5 actor passes on a project ... TTDIDWYD might be the only thing i can stomach him in, but maybe that's because i get to indulge my Fairuza Balk cravings, if only for a few minutes. 

i will watch III if i happen to stumble upon it, i do enjoy looking at Sofia - and the story is none too shabby ... but i can't buy that gaggle of greenhorns as "Corleone".
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dude... you're on fire with these. keep em coming.

 
Ilov80s said:
61 - CLUELESS 

I remember my best friend and I were in 8th grade and we were big fans of Silverstone’s “work” in music videos so we saw this opening weekend. We didn’t get the same thrill we got from her Aerosmith videos but we both laughed our asses off at the movie. After though, being guys we spent awhile pretending like it wasn’t good because you know, it was a bunch of girls. Now I can enjoy it without the ridiculous faux macho adolescent POV. It’s an absolute teen classic. 
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it's really great. we just watched it as a family in the last couple months- and both kids loved it (14 & 10). was hard to see Brittany Murphy though. rip.

 
Ilov80s said:
61 - CLUELESS 

I remember my best friend and I were in 8th grade and we were big fans of Silverstone’s “work” in music videos so we saw this opening weekend. We didn’t get the same thrill we got from her Aerosmith videos but we both laughed our asses off at the movie. After though, being guys we spent awhile pretending like it wasn’t good because you know, it was a bunch of girls. Now I can enjoy it without the ridiculous faux macho adolescent POV. It’s an absolute teen classic. 
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and with it “as if” was thrust into 90s lexicon and ruled it through the remained of the century 

my favorite:  “I’m not a prude, I’m just highly selective”

 
Ilov80s said:
61 - CLUELESS 

I remember my best friend and I were in 8th grade and we were big fans of Silverstone’s “work” in music videos so we saw this opening weekend. We didn’t get the same thrill we got from her Aerosmith videos but we both laughed our asses off at the movie. After though, being guys we spent awhile pretending like it wasn’t good because you know, it was a bunch of girls. Now I can enjoy it without the ridiculous faux macho adolescent POV. It’s an absolute teen classic. 
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also Stacey Dash :wub:

 
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