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Top 20 of the Post-Draft Bloom 100 - Still at the Draft Version (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Sigmund Bloom
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Footballguy
Bloom, are these specific for PPR? What are you thoughts on Donald Brown or McCoy in a non-ppr dynasty?
jgb95
Footballguy
16. Rey Maualuga, LB, Cincinnati - If Rey can just stay out of trouble, he’ll be an excellent fantasy LB.
What trouble has he got in recently?
I thought i read a while ago that he had some trouble early in his college career but things had completly turned around for him??
Please let me know if i'm wrong.
What trouble has he got in recently?
I thought i read a while ago that he had some trouble early in his college career but things had completly turned around for him??
Please let me know if i'm wrong.
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teamramrod
Footballguy
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
Shown above Knowshawn Moreno:**These rankings are for PPR scoring**
PPR I would probably keep Crabtree #2 ahead of Brown in a non PPR unless I had no need at WR
well, you just have to assume that character issues caused him to drop, so the risk of him getting in trouble is higher than if he had landed in the mid 1st. A lot of teams that could have used an ILB/MLB passed on him.
I added that for clarification after MS asked.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I respect your expeditious update Bloom!
One thing though broheem, I think you have to be fair with Dillard. I mean he was a 5th rounder and the 2nd WR the Jags took. I can't legitimately consider him a top 20 dynasty pick.
One thing though broheem, I think you have to be fair with Dillard. I mean he was a 5th rounder and the 2nd WR the Jags took. I can't legitimately consider him a top 20 dynasty pick.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Nice work Bloom.
I hate to post this but I guess this is as good as anywhere....is it possible this draft is just simply weak and there really is nothing to get all that worked up about? I find myself gravitating to guys like Maclin and Hicks because of the QBs throwing them the football but how many WRs have bombed on those 2 teams over the past 5-10 years? A lot me thinks.
I believe owners that had a ton of picks in the rookie drafts this year are going to be really disappointed with the results. I'm not even sure I would trade a 2nd tier WR forthe 1.01 right now.
I hate to post this but I guess this is as good as anywhere....is it possible this draft is just simply weak and there really is nothing to get all that worked up about? I find myself gravitating to guys like Maclin and Hicks because of the QBs throwing them the football but how many WRs have bombed on those 2 teams over the past 5-10 years? A lot me thinks.
I believe owners that had a ton of picks in the rookie drafts this year are going to be really disappointed with the results. I'm not even sure I would trade a 2nd tier WR forthe 1.01 right now.
NorrisB
Footballguy
USC homer here, he had 1 off the field incident where he got in a fight than hit the guy while he was down, and said, "I own the police." He wasnt charged, and this was a rumor. Sounds silly but Winston Justice dropped for bringing a fake gun to school.
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lyon812
Footballguy
I appreciate your love of Dillard, but Mike Thomas is a significant threat. I honestly think in a couple of years, they'll both be starters. If you only believe there's room for one, though, I don't think at this point you can say Dillard is clearly superior.
Dillard: Fast, amazing routes, great leap, slightly undersized and won't be a blocker, but has 3" in height on Thomas.
Thomas: Quick, faster 40 than Dillard, polished route runner, great separation/elusiveness, tough and more compact build.
I see the two as equivalent in talent and opportunity. However, I think Thomas can fill a Welkeresque role almost immediately, and the Jags taking him first would seem to indicate they're higher on him. Over the next few years, I'd think Thomas' numbers will be better.
Regardless, Jax fans should be thrilled.
Dillard: Fast, amazing routes, great leap, slightly undersized and won't be a blocker, but has 3" in height on Thomas.
Thomas: Quick, faster 40 than Dillard, polished route runner, great separation/elusiveness, tough and more compact build.
I see the two as equivalent in talent and opportunity. However, I think Thomas can fill a Welkeresque role almost immediately, and the Jags taking him first would seem to indicate they're higher on him. Over the next few years, I'd think Thomas' numbers will be better.
Regardless, Jax fans should be thrilled.
jgb95
Footballguy
Thanks Norris.
Draft position won't mean a thing once they get into camp.ETA: I'm not even saying to take him 18th - of course you play the fact a lot of people may let him drop because of the 5th round and 2nd WR drafted status, but I still see him as one of the top 20 rookies.I respect your expeditious update Bloom!One thing though broheem, I think you have to be fair with Dillard. I mean he was a 5th rounder and the 2nd WR the Jags took. I can't legitimately consider him a top 20 dynasty pick.
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There was a rumor going around before the draft that Rey had to have some babysit him on the road.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Justice dropped because teams thought he was overated, which he was. The gun incident didn't help, but the guy certainly isn't a very good NFL OT either. Maybe character concerns played a part with Maualuga, but I think it's possible that he was just overated too. The fact that the team that took him only employs one scout and routinely seems to draft based on media rankings as much as anything and I think it's possible that teams just didn't care for him.
Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Footballguy
I agree that this draft class isnt special. The Patriots moved out of the first round and also moved picks this year for picks next year for that reason. Im wondering if it might also be a good idea to move picks around in rookie drafts.Im thinking of packaging picks to gain multiple picks in the 1 to 10 or 1 to 15 range, or moving some of this year's picks for next year's.
dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
Your predraft list had several te's in this range ... I assume 21-40 will have several
identikit
Footballguy
Robiskie is on the list and ahead of those 3.....
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
shaun hill isn't a HoF QB, but crabtree made a lot of hay on bubble(icious) screens... if hill can just flip the ball underhanded 5 yds they should be in business... 
agree with where you have nicks slotted among WRs... i think i had nicks #2 WR in class BEFORE landing designations... i like him even more, now (& maclin also did pretty well in that dept.)...
agree with where you have nicks slotted among WRs... i think i had nicks #2 WR in class BEFORE landing designations... i like him even more, now (& maclin also did pretty well in that dept.)...
jurb26
Footballguy
Ooops, missed him.
I still don't think he'll catch more than 45-50 balls in a season. I'm home, Bloom 100 about to go live after I eat some dinner.
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lyon812
Footballguy
50 catches and a handful of TDs would put him around TE10 in leagues. That may not be a superstar, but it's noteworthy.
T Bell
Footballguy
The only guy who is in the top few who I see with the potential to be a superstar is Crabtree, and doubly so in PPR. I'm sorry but none of this crop of RB's impresses me, not least because I just don't see them being workhorse backs who are so good that they're immune from RBBC.
In particular, why aren't more people alarmed at the fact that Moreno is going to a coach whose history is very much one of splitting carries?
In particular, why aren't more people alarmed at the fact that Moreno is going to a coach whose history is very much one of splitting carries?
Garts
Footballguy
All of the backs he had in New England were journeyman.Moreno isn't in that group.
T Bell
Footballguy
He's also not 220+ lbs., or old enough where his team doesn't care if he's used as a battering ram. The only guy who remotely compares to him on the Patriots' roster was Laurence Maroney, who BTW I don't regard as an inferior talent, and he was used sparingly even when healthy.
Sigmund, is this a PPR or non PPR list?If PPR, is there any way to convert the list to non PPR?Thanks as always - can't wait to see it!
EBF
Footballguy
I'm shocked that people think Correll Buckhalter, LaMont Jordan, and JJ Arrington are going to cripple Moreno's value.
Buckhalter - Never been more than a complementary back. Has an extensive injury history.
Jordan - Was a decent player once upon a time. Unfortunately, that time was three years ago.
Arrington - Draft bust who never made a dent in Arizona. He'll be a situational back.
When teams use a top 15 pick on a back, they generally expect him to play immediately. This isn't like the Jonathan Stewart or Thomas Jones situation where there's another young first round RB on the roster. This is like the Marshawn Lynch or Cadillac Williams situation where the only competition for touches consists of journeymen and retreads.
IMO, Moreno starts in week one and rushes for 1000+ next season if he stays healthy.
Buckhalter - Never been more than a complementary back. Has an extensive injury history.
Jordan - Was a decent player once upon a time. Unfortunately, that time was three years ago.
Arrington - Draft bust who never made a dent in Arizona. He'll be a situational back.
When teams use a top 15 pick on a back, they generally expect him to play immediately. This isn't like the Jonathan Stewart or Thomas Jones situation where there's another young first round RB on the roster. This is like the Marshawn Lynch or Cadillac Williams situation where the only competition for touches consists of journeymen and retreads.
IMO, Moreno starts in week one and rushes for 1000+ next season if he stays healthy.
the branded hand
Footballguy
From the top 20:
15. Jarett Dillard, WR, Jacksonville - Obviously, I’m disappointed with his fall to the 5th, and he didn’t land in a great spot, but I still think he’ll become a starter in Jacksonville eventually.
At least he'll have Holt to learn from... I don't know how much younger players really learn from vets, but to have an All-Pro future HOF'er help you polish your game has to count for something.
15. Jarett Dillard, WR, Jacksonville - Obviously, I’m disappointed with his fall to the 5th, and he didn’t land in a great spot, but I still think he’ll become a starter in Jacksonville eventually.
At least he'll have Holt to learn from... I don't know how much younger players really learn from vets, but to have an All-Pro future HOF'er help you polish your game has to count for something.
cstu
Footballguy
Part of the reason I drafted him is that he's similar in build to Holt and could possibly learn more from him than Thomas. I actually like both of the Jags rookie WR's but Dilliard was available and Thomas wasn't.
broncofan13000
Footballguy
T Bell
Footballguy
Well, with something like Josh McDaniels' word to go off of, I feel like that's money in the bank.Just heard a McDaniels interview and he was saying how he believes that Moreno is one of the few true 3 down RB's in the league...Moreno will be the focal point of Denver's running game. The rest of those guys are WW fodder.
DeCleater
Footballguy
Slacker
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Hey Bloom, when is your post draft audible show going to be on, Thursday?
Bloom, is it up?
Just waiting for it to post on the site.Bloom, is it up?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
So he might not have made it back to me at 2.07? Interesting.
mikel0254
Footballguy
I fully expect Orton to beat Simms for the QB job this year, and that's good for Moreno. See Matt Forte 2008. Orton loves to dump off to his RB'sI think Moreno gets the starting nod from day one. I'll make an EXTREAMLY early prediction - 1000+ rushing and 300+ receiving. 10 total TD's making him a top 10 RB this year...
Justice also got busted soliciting a prostitute.
