Top 20 RB Rankings For The 2013 Season (1 Viewer)

[Phenix]

These are my rankings for RB in Redraft PPR leagues. WRs and TEs are not too far behind.

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[SIZE=9pt]#1 Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings (Age 28) Bye: 5[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,580 rushing yards with 38 catches for 270 receiving yards and 15 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]The best player in the NFL, he is not even human. Do I need to really say anything to explain the great and powerful ADP? He has never had less than 1,000 total yards and 10 TDs. Other than the year he got hurt he has never ran for less than 1,298 yards. Oh, yeah, he is coming off of 2,097 rushing yards on a repaired knee. Beastly is not even enough to explain Peterson, and yes, I have a major man crush. Next![/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#2 Arian Foster, Houston Texans (Age 27) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,365 rushing yards with 40 catches for 290 receiving yards and 13 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]People always seem to question this guy and this year they are saying his wheels fell off, or some on ESPN say that. I think he is still elite. Foster is a combination of what everyone wants, TDs, catches and yards. The Texans went out and got Greg Jones, and that can only help Foster make his one cut and go. He is far from the most talented back, but he gets all the opportunity. All we can really ask for is for our guy to get the ball A LOT, and he does. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#3 Doug Martin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Age 24) Bye: 5[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,320 rushing yards with 46 catches for 410 receiving yards and 11 total TDs [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Muscle Hamster came [/SIZE]onto[SIZE=9pt] the scene hard last year breaking off for 1,926 total yards and 12 scores, not bad for a rookie, eh? It’s nice that he added the 49 reception to show he is a real three tool player. He went cold after week 12 only scoring a pair of TDs the rest of the way, but maybe Freeman will not fall apart this year and teams won’t have the ability to crowd the box. Keep in mind he did get four of his 12 TDs in one game against the Raiders, so scores may not be a given in Tampa.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#4 Marshawn Lynch, Seattle Seahawks (Age 27) Bye: 12[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,415rushing yards with 26 catches for 175 receiving yards and 12 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm[SIZE=9pt] definitely eating the Skittles this year, Beast Mode showed exactly why he got that nickname name last season. Marshawn Lynch averaged a hefty 5 yard per carry last year, his best ever, to the tune of 1,590 yards and 12 total scores. Seattle is the new run first team in the NFL, and he will get every chance to do it again this year. Wilson is just the QB he needed at the helm to keep defenses honest, and it looks like his court date is delayed until after the season, so that worry is gone for now. Some say he is getting up there in age, but his miles are still relatively low averaging 242 carries over 6 seasons, so he should still have some juice left.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#5 Jamaal Charles, Kansas City Chiefs (Age 26) Bye: 10[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,345 rushing yards with 54 catches for 475 receiving yards and 9 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Charles, just like ADP, was a year removed from a blown out ACL and he still managed to rush for a boat load of yards. He had a whopping 1,509 rushing yards, to be exact, for an unbelievable 5.3 yards per carry last season. Charles now has a coach in Andy Reid who will play right into all his strengths; he will hand it to Charles often and pass it to him often. Not to mention, a weak armed Smith will have to find Charles even when he hopes not to. Catches are going to be plenty for him, so expect big things this year… expect really big things. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#6 Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens (Age 26) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,245 rushing yards with 53 catches for 480 receiving yards and 10 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]His carries have [/SIZE]already[SIZE=9pt] gone down over the past two years, and may drop more. Rice had 308 carries and 371 total touches in 2010 followed by 291 carries and 76 receptions for 367 touches in 2011. Compared to 257 rushes and 61 catches for 318 touches in 2012, and that equals fewer and fewer touches. Those are the facts, and Pierce coming [/SIZE]onto[SIZE=9pt] the scene was part of the factor, and may be a bigger one this year. Rice is still elite talent and has had big production in the past. Still elite, but, not Top 3 anymore.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#7 LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia Eagles (Age 25) Bye: 12[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,220 rushing yards with 41 catches for 420 receiving yards and 11 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Stop with all the [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Chip Kelly hype and how he always ran in college. Do I have to explain to you, this is not college? You [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] just run and win, if it [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] work for Minnesota, it [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] work for a first year coach. While I love McCoy’s talent, Kelly [/SIZE]isn't a[SIZE=9pt] one trick pony. You will see [/SIZE]Kelly[SIZE=9pt] use many people this year, almost to a surprising level. McCoy is always valuable because he is a focal point and explosive, but at this level we are talking reasons for not taking him higher, and reasons such as fewer touches and only one really big year are those reasons.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#8 Trent Richardson, Cleveland Browns (Age 23) Bye: 10[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,130 rushing yards with 56 catches for 385 receiving yards and 10 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Richardson is an injury risk, but is still a potential beastly performer. For that, he must garner attention in the Top 10. We know if he stays healthy, IF, he will have well over 350 touches. I’ll be happy with that much opportunity any day. He was banged up all year and only missed the last game of the season and still accumulated 12 scores. Richardson was a PPR beast with 51 catches, and should only perform better this year, barring injury. Keep in mind, his QB is Weeden, so that is always a risk as well. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#9 Alfred Morris, Washington Redskins (Age 24) Bye: 5[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,410 rushing yards with 14 catches for 65 receiving yards and 12 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Well, [/SIZE]didn't[SIZE=9pt] this guy just come out of nowhere? Alfred Morris had a lights out rookie season and should be the [/SIZE]workhorse[SIZE=9pt] again this year. His upside is probably where we have seen it, but he should be able to achieve similar stats again as he has the offense and the confidence from Skeletor to do it. Morris has plenty of opportunity as he finished the season with seven straight 20 carry games. I see him getting the rock often this year; the only risk see is the fact that he does not catch many balls. While I see Morris catching a few more passes than last year, I [/SIZE]don't[SIZE=9pt] expect it to be his strong point.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#10 CJ Spiller, Buffalo Bills (Age 26) Bye: 12[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,270 rushing yards with 47 catches for 405 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Let’s all bow our head and give thanks that Chan Gailey is no longer around as head coach of the Bills. I have no clue why on earth he was using Jackson as much as he was, it is beyond me. I know just like the rest of us that Spiller has a chance to catch many passes and gain many yards, but he may not find the pay dirt enough as this team will have its struggles with either Kolb or [/SIZE]Manual[SIZE=9pt] Expect a good year in the stat line, but be leery of the scores. Weeks 4 to 12 last year he only scored once, that [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] happen to your #1 runner.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#11 Chris Johnson, Tennessee Titans (Age 28) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,290 rushing yards with 39 catches for 380 receiving yards and 9 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]A lot of people are down on CJ2K, I am not one of those people. Chris Johnson has talent, there is no denying that, but you would think he was on “Dancing with the Stars” and not Jacoby as much as he tip toed around the line last year. That line was BRUTAL! Did I say that loud enough? Tennessee did attempt to fix the line, but not by much. Greene could always be a factor to come in and steal the TDs, so look out for that. He is a playmaker, so he can always explode and will get the opportunity as he still had over 300 touches in 2012. CJ only ran for 35 total yards in his first three games and still finished with 1,243 yards rushing yards, he is still very, very good. [/SIZE]Don't[SIZE=9pt] give up on him yet.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#12 Reggie Bush, Detroit Lions (Age 28) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,035 rushing yards with 60 catches for 510 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Bush will catch more passes than any other RB in the NFL, including Sproles. That [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] be too hard to imagine seeing as how last year Bell caught 52 passes for Detroit with limited playing time. Bush is on a better team than he was last year, and we all know he is an explosive player who can cause much damage to a way a defense has to plan. The amount of passes Bush will catch alone makes him a Top 12 runner, but factor in the fact that he will get a good amount of carries as well and you have a high upside season ahead of Bush if he can stay healthy.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#13 Steven Jackson, Atlanta Falcons (Age 30) Bye: 6[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,215 rushing yards with 39 catches for 375 receiving yards and 10 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]When the old Burner can get 10 TDs or more on the regular for Atlanta, Jackson should not have any problem doing the same thing in this offense. Jackson also does something else that Turner does not; he catches passes and many of them. Jackson has had eight straight 1,000 yard rushing seasons, eight straight 1,200 total yard seasons and eight straight 38 catch seasons. That’s great for consistency, but the one thing Jackson has been lacking is TDs and he is in the offense to fix that as we talked about above.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#14 Matt Forte, Chicago Bears (Age 28) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,195 rushing yards with 47 catches for 370 receiving yards and 9 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]This guy has potential to break out and perform on any week, but Forte has always managed to just be average throughout the season as it turns out. He has never duplicated the production that he had in his rookie year and has never even bettered any stat (Yards, TDs or Catches) any year thereafter. I hate to say it, but we know what we get with Forte, A Top 12 performer and that’s about it. Forte will catch many passes as new Head Coach Marc Trestman reportedly loves his ability to catch, so that could work in his favor as well.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#15 Stevan Ridley, New England Patriots (Age 24) Bye: 10[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,360 rushing yards with 9 catches for 70 receiving yards and 12 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Some say you [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] trust any Patriots back because of Belichick. I understand why some think that, but Ridley is his guy and only had less than 10 carries once last year. That was in the game that Billy did bench Ridley for fumbling against the Niners. Blount and Bolden are no threat to him and Vereen was going to be the one to steal carries, but with him now needing to split out more, they may both be on the field at the same time. Ridley has apparently put on some weight and worked on his ball handling and will still be the lead dog in New England, and folks you know this just like me, they will need to run more this year.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#16 DeMarco Murray, Dallas Cowboys (Age 25) Bye: 11[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,180 rushing yards with 38 catches for 290 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]For all the stuff I have been hearing about Chris Ivory and how he [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] stay healthy. People have no problem overlooking that fact with Murray, he has missed 9 games in the past two years and you [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] [/SIZE]overlook[SIZE=9pt] that. He is always banged up, he just is. The Cowboys drafted Randle for a reason and am not surely convinced that if Murray can’t stay healthy this year that the job will be his next year. But for prediction sake, if he stays healthy, he should perform as he has when he is on the field. Murray's ypc dropped drastically in 2012 to 4.1, that’s almost a yard and a half less than in 2011. We can only hope that the OLine has gotten better and that Murray can stay healthy.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#17 Darren McFadden, Oakland Raiders (Age 26) Bye: 7[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,145 rushing yards with 35 catches for 405 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Out with the old and in with the new as there is another new coach in Oakland and one with an offensive scheme that fits McFadden’s strengths. [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]This guy has a huge reputation for being made out of glass, but injuries can happen to anyone, so we [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] hold that against him for predictions sake. McFadden missed four games last year and still caught 42 passes so he can and will catch passes when needed. Flynn is not the answer, so they will rely on McFadden often. Injury is always a risk, but he has the talent to perform.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#18 Lamar Miller, Miami Dolphins (Age 22) Bye: 6[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,120 rushing yards with 28 catches for 235 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thomas has already shown he is no competition to take carries from anyone as he is not effective, so this is Miller’s job to lose. The coaching staff is in love with the guy and he has the makings to be a good back, but does Miller have the talent? I think he does and I think he has the talent around him as well. Miller will catch his share of passes but the scores are what he will lack. He is not a #1 runner by any means, but he is a high upside #2. If Reggie can get 1,000 yards with a much worse offense in Miami, Miller sure can with this new and improved one. He averaged 4.9 a carry last year, so I hope he can get to the same this year.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#19 Chris Ivory, New York Jets (Age 25) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,225 rushing yards with 13 catches for 110 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]The Jets love this guy and wanted him bad enough to trade for him. That is a good thing because Ivory is going to be electric in his first full year as the man. He has shown he can make things happen and is a great combination of power, speed and quickness. No one on the Jets offense is going to be a threat to his production, just his injury risk. Ivory has averaged over 5 ypc in two of his three seasons in New Orleans, so talent is not the question. If Greene can finish as the 18th ranked runner in New York, Ivory sure as heck can.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm a[SIZE=9pt] fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. [/SIZE]I'm[SIZE=9pt] just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

 

[Shawnky]

Where's Sproles? He's def top 15 if not top 10 in ppr.

 

[Phenix]

Where's Sproles? He's def top 15 if not top 10 in ppr.

Not confident he will keep that pace, also while he catches passes, this is the year his 85 carries goes even lower.

In all 20 paragraphs of information, I'm glad that is all you took away from that. lol

 

[eefflrat]

These are my rankings for RB in Redraft PPR leagues. WRs and TEs are not too far behind.

#1 Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings (Age 28) Bye: 5

1,580 rushing yards with 38 catches for 270 receiving yards and 15 total TDs

The best player in the NFL, he is not even human. Do I need to really say anything to explain the great and powerful ADP? He has never had less than 1,000 total yards and 10 TDs. Other than the year he got hurt he has never ran for less than 1,298 yards. Oh, yeah, he is coming off of 2,097 rushing yards on a repaired knee. Beastly is not even enough to explain Peterson, and yes, I have a major man crush. Next!

#2 Arian Foster, Houston Texans (Age 27) Bye: 8

1,365 rushing yards with 40 catches for 290 receiving yards and 13 total TDs

People always seem to question this guy and this year they are saying his wheels fell off, or some on ESPN say that. I think he is still elite. Foster is a combination of what everyone wants, TDs, catches and yards. The Texans went out and got Greg Jones, and that can only help Foster make his one cut and go. He is far from the most talented back, but he gets all the opportunity. All we can really ask for is for our guy to get the ball A LOT, and he does.

#3 Doug Martin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Age 24) Bye: 5

1,320 rushing yards with 46 catches for 410 receiving yards and 11 total TDs

Muscle Hamster came onto the scene hard last year breaking off for 1,926 total yards and 12 scores, not bad for a rookie, eh? It’s nice that he added the 49 reception to show he is a real three tool player. He went cold after week 12 only scoring a pair of TDs the rest of the way, but maybe Freeman will not fall apart this year and teams won’t have the ability to crowd the box. Keep in mind he did get four of his 12 TDs in one game against the Raiders, so scores may not be a given in Tampa.

#4 Marshawn Lynch, Seattle Seahawks (Age 27) Bye: 12

1,415rushing yards with 26 catches for 175 receiving yards and 12 total TDs

I'm definitely eating the Skittles this year, Beast Mode showed exactly why he got that nickname name last season. Marshawn Lynch averaged a hefty 5 yard per carry last year, his best ever, to the tune of 1,590 yards and 12 total scores. Seattle is the new run first team in the NFL, and he will get every chance to do it again this year. Wilson is just the QB he needed at the helm to keep defenses honest, and it looks like his court date is delayed until after the season, so that worry is gone for now. Some say he is getting up there in age, but his miles are still relatively low averaging 242 carries over 6 seasons, so he should still have some juice left.

#5 Jamaal Charles, Kansas City Chiefs (Age 26) Bye: 10

1,345 rushing yards with 54 catches for 475 receiving yards and 9 total TDs

Charles, just like ADP, was a year removed from a blown out ACL and he still managed to rush for a boat load of yards. He had a whopping 1,509 rushing yards, to be exact, for an unbelievable 5.3 yards per carry last season. Charles now has a coach in Andy Reid who will play right into all his strengths; he will hand it to Charles often and pass it to him often. Not to mention, a weak armed Smith will have to find Charles even when he hopes not to. Catches are going to be plenty for him, so expect big things this year… expect really big things.

#6 Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens (Age 26) Bye: 8

1,245 rushing yards with 53 catches for 480 receiving yards and 10 total TDs

His carries have already gone down over the past two years, and may drop more. Rice had 308 carries and 371 total touches in 2010 followed by 291 carries and 76 receptions for 367 touches in 2011. Compared to 257 rushes and 61 catches for 318 touches in 2012, and that equals fewer and fewer touches. Those are the facts, and Pierce coming onto the scene was part of the factor, and may be a bigger one this year. Rice is still elite talent and has had big production in the past. Still elite, but, not Top 3 anymore.

#7 LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia Eagles (Age 25) Bye: 12

1,220 rushing yards with 41 catches for 420 receiving yards and 11 total TDs

Stop with all the Chip Kelly hype and how he always ran in college. Do I have to explain to you, this is not college? You can't just run and win, if it won't work for Minnesota, it won't work for a first year coach. While I love McCoy’s talent, Kelly isn't a one trick pony. You will see Kelly use many people this year, almost to a surprising level. McCoy is always valuable because he is a focal point and explosive, but at this level we are talking reasons for not taking him higher, and reasons such as fewer touches and only one really big year are those reasons.

#8 Trent Richardson, Cleveland Browns (Age 23) Bye: 10

1,130 rushing yards with 56 catches for 385 receiving yards and 10 total TDs

Richardson is an injury risk, but is still a potential beastly performer. For that, he must garner attention in the Top 10. We know if he stays healthy, IF, he will have well over 350 touches. I’ll be happy with that much opportunity any day. He was banged up all year and only missed the last game of the season and still accumulated 12 scores. Richardson was a PPR beast with 51 catches, and should only perform better this year, barring injury. Keep in mind, his QB is Weeden, so that is always a risk as well.

#9 Alfred Morris, Washington Redskins (Age 24) Bye: 5

1,410 rushing yards with 14 catches for 65 receiving yards and 12 total TDs

Well, didn't this guy just come out of nowhere? Alfred Morris had a lights out rookie season and should be the workhorse again this year. His upside is probably where we have seen it, but he should be able to achieve similar stats again as he has the offense and the confidence from Skeletor to do it. Morris has plenty of opportunity as he finished the season with seven straight 20 carry games. I see him getting the rock often this year; the only risk see is the fact that he does not catch many balls. While I see Morris catching a few more passes than last year, I don't expect it to be his strong point.

#10 CJ Spiller, Buffalo Bills (Age 26) Bye: 12

1,270 rushing yards with 47 catches for 405 receiving yards and 8 total TDs

Let’s all bow our head and give thanks that Chan Gailey is no longer around as head coach of the Bills. I have no clue why on earth he was using Jackson as much as he was, it is beyond me. I know just like the rest of us that Spiller has a chance to catch many passes and gain many yards, but he may not find the pay dirt enough as this team will have its struggles with either Kolb or Manual Expect a good year in the stat line, but be leery of the scores. Weeks 4 to 12 last year he only scored once, that can't happen to your #1 runner.

#11 Chris Johnson, Tennessee Titans (Age 28) Bye: 8

1,290 rushing yards with 39 catches for 380 receiving yards and 9 total TDs

A lot of people are down on CJ2K, I am not one of those people. Chris Johnson has talent, there is no denying that, but you would think he was on “Dancing with the Stars” and not Jacoby as much as he tip toed around the line last year. That line was BRUTAL! Did I say that loud enough? Tennessee did attempt to fix the line, but not by much. Greene could always be a factor to come in and steal the TDs, so look out for that. He is a playmaker, so he can always explode and will get the opportunity as he still had over 300 touches in 2012. CJ only ran for 35 total yards in his first three games and still finished with 1,243 yards rushing yards, he is still very, very good. Don't give up on him yet.

#12 Reggie Bush, Detroit Lions (Age 28) Bye: 9

1,035 rushing yards with 60 catches for 510 receiving yards and 8 total TDs

Bush will catch more passes than any other RB in the NFL, including Sproles. That won't be too hard to imagine seeing as how last year Bell caught 52 passes for Detroit with limited playing time. Bush is on a better team than he was last year, and we all know he is an explosive player who can cause much damage to a way a defense has to plan. The amount of passes Bush will catch alone makes him a Top 12 runner, but factor in the fact that he will get a good amount of carries as well and you have a high upside season ahead of Bush if he can stay healthy.

#13 Steven Jackson, Atlanta Falcons (Age 30) Bye: 6

1,215 rushing yards with 39 catches for 375 receiving yards and 10 total TDs

When the old Burner can get 10 TDs or more on the regular for Atlanta, Jackson should not have any problem doing the same thing in this offense. Jackson also does something else that Turner does not; he catches passes and many of them. Jackson has had eight straight 1,000 yard rushing seasons, eight straight 1,200 total yard seasons and eight straight 38 catch seasons. That’s great for consistency, but the one thing Jackson has been lacking is TDs and he is in the offense to fix that as we talked about above.

#14 Matt Forte, Chicago Bears (Age 28) Bye: 8

1,195 rushing yards with 47 catches for 370 receiving yards and 9 total TDs

This guy has potential to break out and perform on any week, but Forte has always managed to just be average throughout the season as it turns out. He has never duplicated the production that he had in his rookie year and has never even bettered any stat (Yards, TDs or Catches) any year thereafter. I hate to say it, but we know what we get with Forte, A Top 12 performer and that’s about it. Forte will catch many passes as new Head Coach Marc Trestman reportedly loves his ability to catch, so that could work in his favor as well.

#15 Stevan Ridley, New England Patriots (Age 24) Bye: 10

1,360 rushing yards with 9 catches for 70 receiving yards and 12 total TDs

Some say you can't trust any Patriots back because of Belichick. I understand why some think that, but Ridley is his guy and only had less than 10 carries once last year. That was in the game that Billy did bench Ridley for fumbling against the Niners. Blount and Bolden are no threat to him and Vereen was going to be the one to steal carries, but with him now needing to split out more, they may both be on the field at the same time. Ridley has apparently put on some weight and worked on his ball handling and will still be the lead dog in New England, and folks you know this just like me, they will need to run more this year.

#16 DeMarco Murray, Dallas Cowboys (Age 25) Bye: 11

1,180 rushing yards with 38 catches for 290 receiving yards and 8 total TDs

For all the stuff I have been hearing about Chris Ivory and how he can't stay healthy. People have no problem overlooking that fact with Murray, he has missed 9 games in the past two years and you can't overlook that. He is always banged up, he just is. The Cowboys drafted Randle for a reason and am not surely convinced that if Murray can’t stay healthy this year that the job will be his next year. But for prediction sake, if he stays healthy, he should perform as he has when he is on the field. Murray's ypc dropped drastically in 2012 to 4.1, that’s almost a yard and a half less than in 2011. We can only hope that the OLine has gotten better and that Murray can stay healthy.

#17 Darren McFadden, Oakland Raiders (Age 26) Bye: 7

1,145 rushing yards with 35 catches for 405 receiving yards and 7 total TDs

Out with the old and in with the new as there is another new coach in Oakland and one with an offensive scheme that fits McFadden’s strengths. This guy has a huge reputation for being made out of glass, but injuries can happen to anyone, so we won't hold that against him for predictions sake. McFadden missed four games last year and still caught 42 passes so he can and will catch passes when needed. Flynn is not the answer, so they will rely on McFadden often. Injury is always a risk, but he has the talent to perform.

#18 Lamar Miller, Miami Dolphins (Age 22) Bye: 6

1,120 rushing yards with 28 catches for 235 receiving yards and 7 total TDs

Thomas has already shown he is no competition to take carries from anyone as he is not effective, so this is Miller’s job to lose. The coaching staff is in love with the guy and he has the makings to be a good back, but does Miller have the talent? I think he does and I think he has the talent around him as well. Miller will catch his share of passes but the scores are what he will lack. He is not a #1 runner by any means, but he is a high upside #2. If Reggie can get 1,000 yards with a much worse offense in Miami, Miller sure can with this new and improved one. He averaged 4.9 a carry last year, so I hope he can get to the same this year.

#19 Chris Ivory, New York Jets (Age 25) Bye: 9

1,225 rushing yards with 13 catches for 110 receiving yards and 8 total TDs

The Jets love this guy and wanted him bad enough to trade for him. That is a good thing because Ivory is going to be electric in his first full year as the man. He has shown he can make things happen and is a great combination of power, speed and quickness. No one on the Jets offense is going to be a threat to his production, just his injury risk. Ivory has averaged over 5 ypc in two of his three seasons in New Orleans, so talent is not the question. If Greene can finish as the 18th ranked runner in New York, Ivory sure as heck can.

#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9

1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs

I'm a fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. I'm just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it.

Thoughts?

In a dynasty league PPR I've been debating an offer of Mike Wallace for Ivory and Colby Fleener. You're making me think real hard about pulling the trigger for ivory

 

[Phenix]

#19 Chris Ivory, New York Jets (Age 25) Bye: 9

1,225 rushing yards with 13 catches for 110 receiving yards and 8 total TDs

The Jets love this guy and wanted him bad enough to trade for him. That is a good thing because Ivory is going to be electric in his first full year as the man. He has shown he can make things happen and is a great combination of power, speed and quickness. No one on the Jets offense is going to be a threat to his production, just his injury risk. Ivory has averaged over 5 ypc in two of his three seasons in New Orleans, so talent is not the question. If Greene can finish as the 18th ranked runner in New York, Ivory sure as heck can.

Thoughts?

In a dynasty league PPR I've been debating an offer of Mike Wallace for Ivory and Colby Fleener. You're making me think real hard about pulling the trigger for ivory

I love him, and in dynasty, he is still fairly young. High upside player.

 

[Matty2D]

I actually really like these for the most part. Obviously everyone shares different opinions, but I see Matt Forte to put up a several more receptions and at least 100 more yards receiving. You noted in the paragraph for him that Trestman loves his catching ability. He averaged about 500 yards per year pre Mike Tice catching the ball out of the backfield.

Also, DMC, unless you have him factored in for injury, I think catches way more than 35. You said it yourself he caught 42 last year, although he did have a ton the first game, but I think he catches at least 50 balls this year IF you are assuming he plays the majority of the season.

Reggie Bush is tough for me. I think you have his receiving stats pretty close, but not sure if he gets 1000 yards rushing. I mean if he does he is going to be huge this year.

All in all though, I think your projections are excellent. I am close on a lot with you. Good stuff.

 

[Phenix]

I actually really like these for the most part. Obviously everyone shares different opinions, but I see Matt Forte to put up a several more receptions and at least 100 more yards receiving. You noted in the paragraph for him that Trestman loves his catching ability. He averaged about 500 yards per year pre Mike Tice catching the ball out of the backfield.

Also, DMC, unless you have him factored in for injury, I think catches way more than 35. You said it yourself he caught 42 last year, although he did have a ton the first game, but I think he catches at least 50 balls this year IF you are assuming he plays the majority of the season.

Reggie Bush is tough for me. I think you have his receiving stats pretty close, but not sure if he gets 1000 yards rushing. I mean if he does he is going to be huge this year.

All in all though, I think your projections are excellent. I am close on a lot with you. Good stuff.

It's what makes the value game so awesome, like you said, many share different opinions. Glad you appreciate the thread, and thanks for the feedback.

 

[cowtown]

I may be in the minority but I can't see a way MJD doesn't crack the top 20. I would take MJD at 80% health versus a few of these guys.

 

[Phenix]

I may be in the minority but I can't see a way MJD doesn't crack the top 20. I would take MJD at 80% health versus a few of these guys.

Him and Sproles should be in the Top 20, but to me they just can't fit. I have never been a fan of MJD though, I know what the stats say but I just don't see him having the same career he had before the injury. He has some miles on him as well, and a third playbook in three years.

 

[Dez]

Hope Ivory isn't the next Redman that hot shot young RB getting his chance to shine that crashes and burns. No way I would trade Wallace for Ivory. No chance.

 

[Phenix]

Hope Ivory isn't the next Redman that hot shot young RB getting his chance to shine that crashes and burns. No way I would trade Wallace for Ivory. No chance.

The fact that you compared Ivory to Redman is troubling, I have remembered very few people who called Redman a hot shot. His ability talent and even ypc over his career is not close. Do not see the relation.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

Nice job, but I don't think you can place Alfred Morris in the top 10 for a ppr league. I think one of the biggest mistakes people make in that format is not realizing how those reception points change the dynamics of final fantasy point totals. In that same light Darren Sproles should find his way into the top 20 of a ppr league.

 

[Tanner9919]

[SIZE=9pt]#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm a[SIZE=9pt] fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. [/SIZE]I'm[SIZE=9pt] just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

I pretty much love the entire list you've made, with some disagreements

I don't understand the logic as stated about re: Wilson , you say he has 'bust written all over him' , yet, in the same breath, you also say he 'clearly has huge upside in the Giants offense'...

playing devil's advocate, let's assume ( as we correctly should) that Brown gets hurt..who benefits most? Wilson..

we shouldn't marry ourselves to the notion that Brown will be stealing goalline carries and that Wilson's TD totals will suffer because of it..thats nonsense..Wilson will lead the league in rushing TDs from 30+ yards, you can take that to the bank..

I wouln't rank him 20th, I'd rank him as a top 7 RB heading in to 2013..

you say 'do not take him as your number one'...shouldn't you rather be saying that about a guy named Trent Richardson, he of the 3.6 ypc avg ilk? A guy who looks like he's running in mud, can't stay healthy, and faces 8-man fronts all day long?how does Richardson get the all the love? I don't get it..he's a pedestrian RB at best..

 

[GeeYouknit]

I like the list but I disagree with a couple of them. Forte and Spiller should easily (IMO) be higher than they are on your list here especially PPR. No problems with your top5 but I feel Spiller should be behind Charles (obviously ahead of guys like Morris/Richardson) but I would put him at 6 and then putting Forte behind guys like Jackson/Bush/CJ?K/Morris seems to be undervalued here.

 

[Phenix]

[SIZE=9pt]#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm a[SIZE=9pt] fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. [/SIZE]I'm[SIZE=9pt] just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

I pretty much love the entire list you've made, with some disagreements

I don't understand the logic as stated about re: Wilson , you say he has 'bust written all over him' , yet, in the same breath, you also say he 'clearly has huge upside in the Giants offense'...

playing devil's advocate, let's assume ( as we correctly should) that Brown gets hurt..who benefits most? Wilson..

we shouldn't marry ourselves to the notion that Brown will be stealing goalline carries and that Wilson's TD totals will suffer because of it..thats nonsense..Wilson will lead the league in rushing TDs from 30+ yards, you can take that to the bank..

I wouln't rank him 20th, I'd rank him as a top 7 RB heading in to 2013..

you say 'do not take him as your number one'...shouldn't you rather be saying that about a guy named Trent Richardson, he of the 3.6 ypc avg ilk? A guy who looks like he's running in mud, can't stay healthy, and faces 8-man fronts all day long?how does Richardson get the all the love? I don't get it..he's a pedestrian RB at best..

Bust and upside are quite different. Bust means the chance to fail and not live up to expectations, which we all have for him. High upside means he has the chance to blow up with his ability and opportunity, which we all believe he has. It's possible he will not live up to his high upside and bust, right?

Assuming a player gets hurt? If you notice I did not take injury into account for projections, I just hinted at players who are likely to get hurt. I will not start assuming players get hurt, thats bad karma.

Your love for Wilson does not mean I have to feel the same love, again these are my ranking I tried to justify them although I'm sure many will still disagree. It's fine, I accept that. Just try to respond the best I can.

I feel with the amount of catches that TRich can have and just the shear opportunity he wil have, and well, THE FACT HE IS JUST MORE TALENTED, IMHO, lol. TRich will have a better season, it's funny everyone is just jumping on board an unproven player in Wilson who has already shown to have problems with the coach. Just can't jump on thast bandwagon yet, Thats why I have TRich higher. Risk vs. reward my friend.

 

[Phenix]

I like the list but I disagree with a couple of them. Forte and Spiller should easily (IMO) be higher than they are on your list here especially PPR. No problems with your top5 but I feel Spiller should be behind Charles (obviously ahead of guys like Morris/Richardson) but I would put him at 6 and then putting Forte behind guys like Jackson/Bush/CJ?K/Morris seems to be undervalued here.

I don't know if it is so obvious, that happens to be the tier where many can be rearranged. I think Spiller will have low scores as that team is just not good. Kolb and a Rook? Yuck.

 

[Grahamburn]

[SIZE=9pt]#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm a[SIZE=9pt] fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. [/SIZE]I'm[SIZE=9pt] just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

I pretty much love the entire list you've made, with some disagreements

I don't understand the logic as stated about re: Wilson , you say he has 'bust written all over him' , yet, in the same breath, you also say he 'clearly has huge upside in the Giants offense'...

playing devil's advocate, let's assume ( as we correctly should) that Brown gets hurt..who benefits most? Wilson..

we shouldn't marry ourselves to the notion that Brown will be stealing goalline carries and that Wilson's TD totals will suffer because of it..thats nonsense..Wilson will lead the league in rushing TDs from 30+ yards, you can take that to the bank..

I wouln't rank him 20th, I'd rank him as a top 7 RB heading in to 2013..

you say 'do not take him as your number one'...shouldn't you rather be saying that about a guy named Trent Richardson, he of the 3.6 ypc avg ilk? A guy who looks like he's running in mud, can't stay healthy, and faces 8-man fronts all day long?how does Richardson get the all the love? I don't get it..he's a pedestrian RB at best..

I can't really disagree with either of you regarding Wilson.

The projection here would actually have Wilson closer to the 12th RB than the 20th, and being the 20th ranked RB overall really is nothing more than having a healthy season.

Michael Turner, Mikel LeShoure, BJGE, and DeAngelo were RBs 20, 21,22, and 23 respectively in my .5 PPR.

Top 7? Maybe, but Andre Brown will have to get hurt for 2013 or leave for 2014. The top 6 RBs all had over 300 touches, and the 7th RB (Spiller) had 43 receptions at over 10 yards per to add to his 207 carries. I don't see Wilson getting enough carries or catching the ball that often with Brown in the picture. When AB takes the carries at the stripe too? Ouch. Wilson will definitely need to lead the league in 30+ yard TD runs...

There are several things that will need to break in Wilson's favor for a top 10 finish, but if they happen and he gets there I can agree he'll be a top 7ish pick in 2014.

 

[Phenix]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

Nice job, but I don't think you can place Alfred Morris in the top 10 for a ppr league. I think one of the biggest mistakes people make in that format is not realizing how those reception points change the dynamics of final fantasy point totals. In that same light Darren Sproles should find his way into the top 20 of a ppr league.

I think Sproles gets far less touches and Morris almost duplicates last year, so that is my reasoning. I know Sproles gets a ton of catches, have him in a few leagues, but I also am a diehard Saints fan, I see and feel something different I guess. ALL IN ON JIMMY GRAHAM, but you will see that in the TE thread.

 

[Phenix]

For what it is worth...

21. Sproles

22. MJD

23. Vereen

24. L. Bell

25. Mathews

I think this is the position with the tightest group in differential of points from 1st to 20 btw.

 

[fightingillini]

These are my rankings for RB in Redraft PPR leagues. WRs and TEs are not too far behind.

[SIZE=9pt]#1 Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings (Age 28) Bye: 5[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,580 rushing yards with 38 catches for 270 receiving yards and 15 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]The best player in the NFL, he is not even human. Do I need to really say anything to explain the great and powerful ADP? He has never had less than 1,000 total yards and 10 TDs. Other than the year he got hurt he has never ran for less than 1,298 yards. Oh, yeah, he is coming off of 2,097 rushing yards on a repaired knee. Beastly is not even enough to explain Peterson, and yes, I have a major man crush. Next![/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#2 Arian Foster, Houston Texans (Age 27) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,365 rushing yards with 40 catches for 290 receiving yards and 13 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]People always seem to question this guy and this year they are saying his wheels fell off, or some on ESPN say that. I think he is still elite. Foster is a combination of what everyone wants, TDs, catches and yards. The Texans went out and got Greg Jones, and that can only help Foster make his one cut and go. He is far from the most talented back, but he gets all the opportunity. All we can really ask for is for our guy to get the ball A LOT, and he does. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#3 Doug Martin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Age 24) Bye: 5[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,320 rushing yards with 46 catches for 410 receiving yards and 11 total TDs [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Muscle Hamster came [/SIZE]onto[SIZE=9pt] the scene hard last year breaking off for 1,926 total yards and 12 scores, not bad for a rookie, eh? It’s nice that he added the 49 reception to show he is a real three tool player. He went cold after week 12 only scoring a pair of TDs the rest of the way, but maybe Freeman will not fall apart this year and teams won’t have the ability to crowd the box. Keep in mind he did get four of his 12 TDs in one game against the Raiders, so scores may not be a given in Tampa.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#4 Marshawn Lynch, Seattle Seahawks (Age 27) Bye: 12[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,415rushing yards with 26 catches for 175 receiving yards and 12 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm[SIZE=9pt] definitely eating the Skittles this year, Beast Mode showed exactly why he got that nickname name last season. Marshawn Lynch averaged a hefty 5 yard per carry last year, his best ever, to the tune of 1,590 yards and 12 total scores. Seattle is the new run first team in the NFL, and he will get every chance to do it again this year. Wilson is just the QB he needed at the helm to keep defenses honest, and it looks like his court date is delayed until after the season, so that worry is gone for now. Some say he is getting up there in age, but his miles are still relatively low averaging 242 carries over 6 seasons, so he should still have some juice left.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#5 Jamaal Charles, Kansas City Chiefs (Age 26) Bye: 10[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,345 rushing yards with 54 catches for 475 receiving yards and 9 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Charles, just like ADP, was a year removed from a blown out ACL and he still managed to rush for a boat load of yards. He had a whopping 1,509 rushing yards, to be exact, for an unbelievable 5.3 yards per carry last season. Charles now has a coach in Andy Reid who will play right into all his strengths; he will hand it to Charles often and pass it to him often. Not to mention, a weak armed Smith will have to find Charles even when he hopes not to. Catches are going to be plenty for him, so expect big things this year… expect really big things. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#6 Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens (Age 26) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,245 rushing yards with 53 catches for 480 receiving yards and 10 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]His carries have [/SIZE]already[SIZE=9pt] gone down over the past two years, and may drop more. Rice had 308 carries and 371 total touches in 2010 followed by 291 carries and 76 receptions for 367 touches in 2011. Compared to 257 rushes and 61 catches for 318 touches in 2012, and that equals fewer and fewer touches. Those are the facts, and Pierce coming [/SIZE]onto[SIZE=9pt] the scene was part of the factor, and may be a bigger one this year. Rice is still elite talent and has had big production in the past. Still elite, but, not Top 3 anymore.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#7 LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia Eagles (Age 25) Bye: 12[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,220 rushing yards with 41 catches for 420 receiving yards and 11 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Stop with all the [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]Chip Kelly hype and how he always ran in college. Do I have to explain to you, this is not college? You [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] just run and win, if it [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] work for Minnesota, it [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] work for a first year coach. While I love McCoy’s talent, Kelly [/SIZE]isn't a[SIZE=9pt] one trick pony. You will see [/SIZE]Kelly[SIZE=9pt] use many people this year, almost to a surprising level. McCoy is always valuable because he is a focal point and explosive, but at this level we are talking reasons for not taking him higher, and reasons such as fewer touches and only one really big year are those reasons.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#8 Trent Richardson, Cleveland Browns (Age 23) Bye: 10[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,130 rushing yards with 56 catches for 385 receiving yards and 10 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Richardson is an injury risk, but is still a potential beastly performer. For that, he must garner attention in the Top 10. We know if he stays healthy, IF, he will have well over 350 touches. I’ll be happy with that much opportunity any day. He was banged up all year and only missed the last game of the season and still accumulated 12 scores. Richardson was a PPR beast with 51 catches, and should only perform better this year, barring injury. Keep in mind, his QB is Weeden, so that is always a risk as well. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#9 Alfred Morris, Washington Redskins (Age 24) Bye: 5[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,410 rushing yards with 14 catches for 65 receiving yards and 12 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Well, [/SIZE]didn't[SIZE=9pt] this guy just come out of nowhere? Alfred Morris had a lights out rookie season and should be the [/SIZE]workhorse[SIZE=9pt] again this year. His upside is probably where we have seen it, but he should be able to achieve similar stats again as he has the offense and the confidence from Skeletor to do it. Morris has plenty of opportunity as he finished the season with seven straight 20 carry games. I see him getting the rock often this year; the only risk see is the fact that he does not catch many balls. While I see Morris catching a few more passes than last year, I [/SIZE]don't[SIZE=9pt] expect it to be his strong point.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#10 CJ Spiller, Buffalo Bills (Age 26) Bye: 12[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,270 rushing yards with 47 catches for 405 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Let’s all bow our head and give thanks that Chan Gailey is no longer around as head coach of the Bills. I have no clue why on earth he was using Jackson as much as he was, it is beyond me. I know just like the rest of us that Spiller has a chance to catch many passes and gain many yards, but he may not find the pay dirt enough as this team will have its struggles with either Kolb or [/SIZE]Manual[SIZE=9pt] Expect a good year in the stat line, but be leery of the scores. Weeks 4 to 12 last year he only scored once, that [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] happen to your #1 runner.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#11 Chris Johnson, Tennessee Titans (Age 28) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,290 rushing yards with 39 catches for 380 receiving yards and 9 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]A lot of people are down on CJ2K, I am not one of those people. Chris Johnson has talent, there is no denying that, but you would think he was on “Dancing with the Stars” and not Jacoby as much as he tip toed around the line last year. That line was BRUTAL! Did I say that loud enough? Tennessee did attempt to fix the line, but not by much. Greene could always be a factor to come in and steal the TDs, so look out for that. He is a playmaker, so he can always explode and will get the opportunity as he still had over 300 touches in 2012. CJ only ran for 35 total yards in his first three games and still finished with 1,243 yards rushing yards, he is still very, very good. [/SIZE]Don't[SIZE=9pt] give up on him yet.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#12 Reggie Bush, Detroit Lions (Age 28) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,035 rushing yards with 60 catches for 510 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Bush will catch more passes than any other RB in the NFL, including Sproles. That [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] be too hard to imagine seeing as how last year Bell caught 52 passes for Detroit with limited playing time. Bush is on a better team than he was last year, and we all know he is an explosive player who can cause much damage to a way a defense has to plan. The amount of passes Bush will catch alone makes him a Top 12 runner, but factor in the fact that he will get a good amount of carries as well and you have a high upside season ahead of Bush if he can stay healthy.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#13 Steven Jackson, Atlanta Falcons (Age 30) Bye: 6[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,215 rushing yards with 39 catches for 375 receiving yards and 10 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]When the old Burner can get 10 TDs or more on the regular for Atlanta, Jackson should not have any problem doing the same thing in this offense. Jackson also does something else that Turner does not; he catches passes and many of them. Jackson has had eight straight 1,000 yard rushing seasons, eight straight 1,200 total yard seasons and eight straight 38 catch seasons. That’s great for consistency, but the one thing Jackson has been lacking is TDs and he is in the offense to fix that as we talked about above.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#14 Matt Forte, Chicago Bears (Age 28) Bye: 8[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,195 rushing yards with 47 catches for 370 receiving yards and 9 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]This guy has potential to break out and perform on any week, but Forte has always managed to just be average throughout the season as it turns out. He has never duplicated the production that he had in his rookie year and has never even bettered any stat (Yards, TDs or Catches) any year thereafter. I hate to say it, but we know what we get with Forte, A Top 12 performer and that’s about it. Forte will catch many passes as new Head Coach Marc Trestman reportedly loves his ability to catch, so that could work in his favor as well.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#15 Stevan Ridley, New England Patriots (Age 24) Bye: 10[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,360 rushing yards with 9 catches for 70 receiving yards and 12 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Some say you [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] trust any Patriots back because of Belichick. I understand why some think that, but Ridley is his guy and only had less than 10 carries once last year. That was in the game that Billy did bench Ridley for fumbling against the Niners. Blount and Bolden are no threat to him and Vereen was going to be the one to steal carries, but with him now needing to split out more, they may both be on the field at the same time. Ridley has apparently put on some weight and worked on his ball handling and will still be the lead dog in New England, and folks you know this just like me, they will need to run more this year.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#16 DeMarco Murray, Dallas Cowboys (Age 25) Bye: 11[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,180 rushing yards with 38 catches for 290 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]For all the stuff I have been hearing about Chris Ivory and how he [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] stay healthy. People have no problem overlooking that fact with Murray, he has missed 9 games in the past two years and you [/SIZE]can't[SIZE=9pt] [/SIZE]overlook[SIZE=9pt] that. He is always banged up, he just is. The Cowboys drafted Randle for a reason and am not surely convinced that if Murray can’t stay healthy this year that the job will be his next year. But for prediction sake, if he stays healthy, he should perform as he has when he is on the field. Murray's ypc dropped drastically in 2012 to 4.1, that’s almost a yard and a half less than in 2011. We can only hope that the OLine has gotten better and that Murray can stay healthy.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#17 Darren McFadden, Oakland Raiders (Age 26) Bye: 7[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,145 rushing yards with 35 catches for 405 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Out with the old and in with the new as there is another new coach in Oakland and one with an offensive scheme that fits McFadden’s strengths. [/SIZE][SIZE=9pt]This guy has a huge reputation for being made out of glass, but injuries can happen to anyone, so we [/SIZE]won't[SIZE=9pt] hold that against him for predictions sake. McFadden missed four games last year and still caught 42 passes so he can and will catch passes when needed. Flynn is not the answer, so they will rely on McFadden often. Injury is always a risk, but he has the talent to perform.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#18 Lamar Miller, Miami Dolphins (Age 22) Bye: 6[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,120 rushing yards with 28 catches for 235 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thomas has already shown he is no competition to take carries from anyone as he is not effective, so this is Miller’s job to lose. The coaching staff is in love with the guy and he has the makings to be a good back, but does Miller have the talent? I think he does and I think he has the talent around him as well. Miller will catch his share of passes but the scores are what he will lack. He is not a #1 runner by any means, but he is a high upside #2. If Reggie can get 1,000 yards with a much worse offense in Miami, Miller sure can with this new and improved one. He averaged 4.9 a carry last year, so I hope he can get to the same this year.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#19 Chris Ivory, New York Jets (Age 25) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,225 rushing yards with 13 catches for 110 receiving yards and 8 total TDs[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]The Jets love this guy and wanted him bad enough to trade for him. That is a good thing because Ivory is going to be electric in his first full year as the man. He has shown he can make things happen and is a great combination of power, speed and quickness. No one on the Jets offense is going to be a threat to his production, just his injury risk. Ivory has averaged over 5 ypc in two of his three seasons in New Orleans, so talent is not the question. If Greene can finish as the 18th ranked runner in New York, Ivory sure as heck can.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm a[SIZE=9pt] fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. [/SIZE]I'm[SIZE=9pt] just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

I appreciate your lists and thoughts behind it. My comments are.

1) Spiller is too low. I think he catches more than 47 passes, being a safety valve for Manuel. I agree with your rushing yard amount.....I have Spiller for 10 total TDs.

2) C Johnson is too high. TEN didn't bring in Shonn Greene to just ride the pine. While I don't think Greene is that good, I think he's going to steal more TDs than Johnson owners would like.

3) Forte is too low in a PPR league.

4) Bush is too high, I can't see him getting near 1000 rushing yards splitting time with Leshoure and Bell.

5) Where's Sproles? Guy is a lock for 70+ receptions, which easily puts him in the top 20 in PPR leagues.

6) I don't buy the Ivory hype as much as you do.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

you say 'do not take him as your number one'...shouldn't you rather be saying that about a guy named Trent Richardson, he of the 3.6 ypc avg ilk? A guy who looks like he's running in mud, can't stay healthy, and faces 8-man fronts all day long?how does Richardson get the all the love? I don't get it..he's a pedestrian RB at best..

Trent Richardson missed all training camp last year when he underwent knee surgery. He was rusty in his first game and then during the course of the season he suffered busted ribs. In addition to his injuries the entire offense was hamped by having a rookie QB, a rookie ORT, and working in a second year WR and a rookie WR, not to mention the team ownership was in transition so the entire coaching staff knew they were dead men walking along with most of the front office. Not the best circumstances for any rookie RB.

If you want to focus on his low average per carry from Ricahardson's rookie season and turn a blind eye to his production then no one is stopping you.

T-Rich was injured and still produced. He is set for a major improvement. His health should be improved and the offense is under new management.

If Trent Richardson is healthy he is set for a breakout season.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22702818/browns-should-see-offensive-turnaround-under-norv-turner

... From 1991-2006, Turner held six different jobs and in each of those jobs, the team he took over for improved an average of 10.5 spots in its total offensive ranking in Turner's first year. By that math, the Browns would finish 14th or 15th in total offense in 2013, a ranking they've only reached once since 1999.

Turner has been able to orchestrate these offensive turnarounds despite having quarterbacks like Heath Shuler, John Friesz, Jay Fiedler and Kerry Collins under center.



Richardson could have a breakout year similar to Emmit Smith's in 1991. The two running backs had eerily similar stats as rookies: Smith ran for 937 yards and 11 touchdowns in 1990 while Richardson ran for 950 yards and 11 touchdowns last season.

When the Cowboys added Turner in 1991, Smith upped his production to 1,563 yards and 12 touchdowns. If Richardson can stay healthy, he could see a big statistical bump too.

 

[DawnBTVS]

Sproles also seemed to miss the playcalling of Sean Payton last year (carries dropped from 87 to 48).

As others have stated, I think Sproles deserves a spot. I don't see him getting 85-90 carries again but could easily see him getting around 60-65 carries with 70-80 catches.

That'd boost him from 123 touches last year up to anywhere from 130-145 touches (in 2011 he had 173). Not a big swing but enough to probably push him into that 15-20 range.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

Nice job, but I don't think you can place Alfred Morris in the top 10 for a ppr league. I think one of the biggest mistakes people make in that format is not realizing how those reception points change the dynamics of final fantasy point totals. In that same light Darren Sproles should find his way into the top 20 of a ppr league.

I think Sproles gets far less touches and Morris almost duplicates last year, so that is my reasoning. I know Sproles gets a ton of catches, have him in a few leagues, but I also am a diehard Saints fan, I see and feel something different I guess. ALL IN ON JIMMY GRAHAM, but you will see that in the TE thread.

Sproles can rush for under 400 yards with only 2 TDs on the ground and still easily crack the top 20 in a ppr league based on the 70-75 receptions he'll get and the yardage and TDs that come with that.

Anyway I don't think its an egrecious error or anything on you part it's just when I put together my ppr projections I'm shocked myself to see how far guys like Alfred Morris and Steven Ridley fall down while guys like Sproles, Matt Forte and Reggie Bush get inflated despite "lesser" rushing totals.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Love the detail and thought you put in to both the QB's and the RB's! My minor gripe would be the love of the 2nd year guys you have on both lists. There's going to be sophmore slumps and out of all the 2nd year guys you have on both lists (I included Kap) I could see half not finishing in the top 20. JMVHO

 

[We Tigers]

The top ten is pretty standard--it's basically an ADP list and "all these guys are gonna be great!"--but I very much liked your analysis on the back half. I do find it interesting that you don't have Montee Ball in your top 25. I suspect your reasoning is that he'll be a first and second down back, with Hillman/Moreno gobbling up all those delicious PPR points?

I also think your rushing numbers are a bit high for Reggie. I'd put him closer to 750-800 yards. Detroit won't run that much, LeShoure (or even Bell, if they still like him in the "closer" role) will still get a decent number of carries, and that offensive line is pretty offensive. Much more than 4 ypc may be hard for Bush to manage.

 

[johnadams]

Thanks for putting together this list with the commentary and justification. Seems like the RB rankings I've seen usually shake out with the top five pretty darn close to what you have, some jumble of the same guys at 6-10 with an occassional ranking letting someone like Spiller eke into the top five, then 11 is where things get interesting. Where I differ:

1) I'd have CJ as 6. But not because of his midrange. I love his ceiling and will take a RB10 midrange higher because his ceiling is higher than the rest.

2) Ivory is more of a watch list for me rather than a top 20 guy. NY is kinda messy right now.

3) Wilson is higher for me, but for the same reason as CJ. I tend to bump guys if I like their upside.

But like I said, these are quibbles. Nicely done.

 

[butcher boy]

I don't understand the reasoning behind Sproles' absence from the top 20 other than gut feeling.

The last 2 years he's been on pace for over 80 catches (75 last year but he missed 3 games). He had 86 the last time Payton was calling the plays. I guess the knock on him could be his age, but he doesn't have the mileage of most backs his age. I just don't see what signs are out there that the Saints are going to use him less.

 

[Phenix]

[SIZE=9pt]#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm a[SIZE=9pt] fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. [/SIZE]I'm[SIZE=9pt] just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

I pretty much love the entire list you've made, with some disagreements

I don't understand the logic as stated about re: Wilson , you say he has 'bust written all over him' , yet, in the same breath, you also say he 'clearly has huge upside in the Giants offense'...

playing devil's advocate, let's assume ( as we correctly should) that Brown gets hurt..who benefits most? Wilson..

we shouldn't marry ourselves to the notion that Brown will be stealing goalline carries and that Wilson's TD totals will suffer because of it..thats nonsense..Wilson will lead the league in rushing TDs from 30+ yards, you can take that to the bank..

I wouln't rank him 20th, I'd rank him as a top 7 RB heading in to 2013..

you say 'do not take him as your number one'...shouldn't you rather be saying that about a guy named Trent Richardson, he of the 3.6 ypc avg ilk? A guy who looks like he's running in mud, can't stay healthy, and faces 8-man fronts all day long?how does Richardson get the all the love? I don't get it..he's a pedestrian RB at best..

I can't really disagree with either of you regarding Wilson.

The projection here would actually have Wilson closer to the 12th RB than the 20th, and being the 20th ranked RB overall really is nothing more than having a healthy season.

Michael Turner, Mikel LeShoure, BJGE, and DeAngelo were RBs 20, 21,22, and 23 respectively in my .5 PPR.

Top 7? Maybe, but Andre Brown will have to get hurt for 2013 or leave for 2014. The top 6 RBs all had over 300 touches, and the 7th RB (Spiller) had 43 receptions at over 10 yards per to add to his 207 carries. I don't see Wilson getting enough carries or catching the ball that often with Brown in the picture. When AB takes the carries at the stripe too? Ouch. Wilson will definitely need to lead the league in 30+ yard TD runs...

There are several things that will need to break in Wilson's favor for a top 10 finish, but if they happen and he gets there I can agree he'll be a top 7ish pick in 2014.

From Rotoworld regarding Wilson...

Giants OC Kevin Gilbride says he's seen "significant improvement" from David Wilson, but he's "still not 100 percent."
"He still makes mistakes but there has certainly been some significant [growth]," Gilbride added. "Now until you get the pads on -– and he has to show that he, as a smaller guy, can do the things necessary that other small backs in this league have done –- you are still kind of holding your breath when you see him." Gilbride wants Wilson to become a better pass catcher and pass protector before committing to the second-year running back as an every-down player.

What confuses me is how the coaches are not convinced, but everyone who want's to draft him in fantasy is.

 

[CentralPA]

Great list. But like others have said in this thread...i'd flip out Ridley and Ivory out for Sproles and MJD. I don't see how Ridley is going to be a PPR type scorer, I think that will be Vereen's role which will be very Sproles like. I hate the Jets offensive situation right now and think Ivory is going to bust.

 

[CentralPA]

[SIZE=9pt]Bush will catch more passes than any other RB in the NFL, including Sproles. [/SIZE]

Yet you're projecting him to have 60 catches? Sproles had 86 catches in 2011 and 75 in just 13 games last year. Why are you expecting Sproles to get far less touches than previous years?

Yeah, can't wrap my head around this either. If anything he should be closer to 80 catches with Payton returning.

 

[Phenix]

[SIZE=9pt]Bush will catch more passes than any other RB in the NFL, including Sproles. [/SIZE]

Yet you're projecting him to have 60 catches? Sproles had 86 catches in 2011 and 75 in just 13 games last year. Why are you expecting Sproles to get far less touches than previous years?

I have gave my reasoning a couple times, but I'll touch on it again. Sproles never had over 60 catches until the last 2 years, and I just feel at age 30 he will fall off. Both those years either Colston or Graham were hurt and missing multiple games. size and age will catch up to hi, and I think the will use Pierre and Ingram more this year. Quite simply I think toal touches, including receptions go down and that means Yards and TDs will too. I still see him being a good player, just not like the last 2 years. I gave my reasons, and some disagree, that is OK.

I remember last year I had the same fight ranking ADP too high, lol. Have to let the season play out fellas, these are projections not gospel.

Too be honest Sproles was Ranked 14th last year, so falling a few spots is not out of the question.

 

[Phenix]

Great list. But like others have said in this thread...i'd flip out Ridley and Ivory out for Sproles and MJD. I don't see how Ridley is going to be a PPR type scorer, I think that will be Vereen's role which will be very Sproles like. I hate the Jets offensive situation right now and think Ivory is going to bust.

Funny, you would flip out Ridley for Sproles, even forgetting that Ridley only finished one spot behind Sproles (14th and 15th respectively) in my PPR standard league? I only think Ridley does better and Sproles does worse, explain my logic?

 

[Phenix]

[SIZE=9pt]Bush will catch more passes than any other RB in the NFL, including Sproles. [/SIZE]

Yet you're projecting him to have 60 catches? Sproles had 86 catches in 2011 and 75 in just 13 games last year. Why are you expecting Sproles to get far less touches than previous years?

Yeah, can't wrap my head around this either. If anything he should be closer to 80 with Payton returning.

Sproles only caught 80 balls once in his 7 year career, not an automatic given, huh?

 

[Grahamburn]

[SIZE=9pt]#20 David Wilson, New York Giants (Age 22) Bye: 9[/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]1,055 rushing yards with 30 catches for 315 receiving yards and 7 total TDs[/SIZE]

I'm a[SIZE=9pt] fan of this kid’s talent, explosiveness and breakaway speed. [/SIZE]I'm[SIZE=9pt] just not convinced he has matured enough with his knowledge of the game to really show it yet. Andre Brown is going to be a big factor and steal most of the goal line touches in this offense. Coughlin loves using a two back system, look it up if you do not believe me. David Wilson has bust written all over him, but he clearly has huge upside in the Giants’ offense, but does Coughlin think that? He can be stubborn, let’s just hope Wilson learned to block. Do not take this guy as your number one no matter what you do; the risk is not worth it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=9pt]Thoughts?[/SIZE]

I pretty much love the entire list you've made, with some disagreements

I don't understand the logic as stated about re: Wilson , you say he has 'bust written all over him' , yet, in the same breath, you also say he 'clearly has huge upside in the Giants offense'...

playing devil's advocate, let's assume ( as we correctly should) that Brown gets hurt..who benefits most? Wilson..

we shouldn't marry ourselves to the notion that Brown will be stealing goalline carries and that Wilson's TD totals will suffer because of it..thats nonsense..Wilson will lead the league in rushing TDs from 30+ yards, you can take that to the bank..

I wouln't rank him 20th, I'd rank him as a top 7 RB heading in to 2013..

you say 'do not take him as your number one'...shouldn't you rather be saying that about a guy named Trent Richardson, he of the 3.6 ypc avg ilk? A guy who looks like he's running in mud, can't stay healthy, and faces 8-man fronts all day long?how does Richardson get the all the love? I don't get it..he's a pedestrian RB at best..

I can't really disagree with either of you regarding Wilson.

The projection here would actually have Wilson closer to the 12th RB than the 20th, and being the 20th ranked RB overall really is nothing more than having a healthy season.

Michael Turner, Mikel LeShoure, BJGE, and DeAngelo were RBs 20, 21,22, and 23 respectively in my .5 PPR.

Top 7? Maybe, but Andre Brown will have to get hurt for 2013 or leave for 2014. The top 6 RBs all had over 300 touches, and the 7th RB (Spiller) had 43 receptions at over 10 yards per to add to his 207 carries. I don't see Wilson getting enough carries or catching the ball that often with Brown in the picture. When AB takes the carries at the stripe too? Ouch. Wilson will definitely need to lead the league in 30+ yard TD runs...

There are several things that will need to break in Wilson's favor for a top 10 finish, but if they happen and he gets there I can agree he'll be a top 7ish pick in 2014.

From Rotoworld regarding Wilson...

Giants OC Kevin Gilbride says he's seen "significant improvement" from David Wilson, but he's "still not 100 percent."
"He still makes mistakes but there has certainly been some significant [growth]," Gilbride added. "Now until you get the pads on -– and he has to show that he, as a smaller guy, can do the things necessary that other small backs in this league have done –- you are still kind of holding your breath when you see him." Gilbride wants Wilson to become a better pass catcher and pass protector before committing to the second-year running back as an every-down player.

What confuses me is how the coaches are not convinced, but everyone who want's to draft him in fantasy is.

Read this in several threads now. Not the best news when we're in the time of almost exclusively positive coach speak hype.

 

[CentralPA]

[SIZE=9pt]Bush will catch more passes than any other RB in the NFL, including Sproles. [/SIZE]

Yet you're projecting him to have 60 catches? Sproles had 86 catches in 2011 and 75 in just 13 games last year. Why are you expecting Sproles to get far less touches than previous years?

Yeah, can't wrap my head around this either. If anything he should be closer to 80 with Payton returning.

Sproles only caught 80 balls once in his 7 year career, not an automatic given, huh?

Great list. But like others have said in this thread...i'd flip out Ridley and Ivory out for Sproles and MJD. I don't see how Ridley is going to be a PPR type scorer, I think that will be Vereen's role which will be very Sproles like. I hate the Jets offensive situation right now and think Ivory is going to bust.

Funny, you would flip out Ridley for Sproles, even forgetting that Ridley only finished one spot behind Sproles (14th and 15th respectively) in my PPR standard league? I only think Ridley does better and Sproles does worse, explain my logic?

I guess I was going buy the amount of receptions each back had. Ridley made his due on the ground, he had a great year last year. Avg 4.1 but with 290 touches via hand off. In my PPR scoring league he and Sproles rankings were 30 spots a part almost but that is overall. I'd have to check how separated they were in RBs only.

As for catching 80 balls only once...that was also his only year being coached with Payton. Not saying there is a correlation but I really don't think he sees less than 60 catches this year.

 

[Grahamburn]

Ridley made his due on the ground, he had a great year last year. Avg 4.1 but with 290 touches via hand off.

Ridley averaged 4.4 ypc.

 

[CentralPA]

Ridley made his due on the ground, he had a great year last year. Avg 4.1 but with 290 touches via hand off.

Ridley averaged 4.4 ypc.

nope, it was 4.36

Yes you're right, my bad.

 

[moderated]

Ivory/Ridley/Morris all too high for PPR rankings, they can't catch.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Am I alone in thinking Steven Jackson finishes top 5-7 in a PPR?

 

[CentralPA]

Am I alone in thinking Steven Jackson finishes top 5-7 in a PPR?

He has the potential. I'd say that might be his ceiling this year.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Am I alone in thinking Steven Jackson finishes top 5-7 in a PPR?

He has the potential. I'd say that might be his ceiling this year.

If he plays a full 16 it seems like a lock to me. He seems to have gone from one extreme to the next and I wouldnt be shocked to see his TD's double or triple from last year while catching 60 passes.

 

[Shutout]

If I did nothing else, I would have to remove Lamar Miller and Chris Ivory from this list and replace them with MJD and Sproles. I personally would likely find a higher spot for both those guys than 18 and 19 but if nothing else, would have them in. I get the thoughts against MJD and for Ivory, etc, but unless he is truly, no doubt about it, a shell of his former self, the arguement you make for Foster is what applies to MJD as well. If he is healthy, his sheer volume puts him into play for a top 15 or so finish (and I'm not a MJD fan either, just saying that is how it looks to me).

Sproles will likely come down in receptions but he is on a very offensively-friendly team and the opportunities will be there. Its hard to hold him off that list also.

I bump Miller and Ivory to make that list because Ivory has always seemingly never been able to remain healthy even in a non-featured role and he is on a team that is the anithesis of New Orleans; the opportunity there has a potential to be dismal for that offense.

If I were making another adjustment I think I switch Forte and CJ outright in PPR without a doubt. Forte might be a very under rated RB right now.

I would shuffle the top five to:

Jamaal Charles--Foster--ADP--Martin--Lynch

ADP can't fall much because he's that good but it is almost universal that for whatever reason or another, when EVERYONE is on a guy to be the #1RB, it does not happen. I think we are so wowed by his performance last year that we are overlooking that things are just not likely to repeat.

Charles, if he stays healthy, almost can not finish outside the top 3 this year and in a PPR, this guy is sitting in a "Marshall Faulk, circa 2000" type of zone. If the Chiefs are a good team at all this year, Charles could easily be a guy that goes 1400, 75 for 500 and 18 total TDs. He might lap the field this one year.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I realize there are other RBs entering the mix and he doesn't get a ton of receptions, but no one else thinks Frank Gore belongs in the Top 20?

 

[Phenix]

I realize there are other RBs entering the mix and he doesn't get a ton of receptions, but no one else thinks Frank Gore belongs in the Top 20?

I really think that Gore will lose a substantial amount of carries and touches this year. Hunter and James will be bigger factors, in my opinion.

 

[Ilov80s]

How did you arrive at your statistics? You didn't ever explain that.

 

[Rolling_akg]

I realize there are other RBs entering the mix and he doesn't get a ton of receptions, but no one else thinks Frank Gore belongs in the Top 20?

I really think that Gore will lose a substantial amount of carries and touches this year. Hunter and James will be bigger factors, in my opinion.

He'll be top 20, but that because some of these guys will get hurt. I think its fair to keep him out assuming all play 16

 

[stumpie71]

To generous with the total yardage a rushing yardage. On average only 15 rb's will break 1000 yards, I do like most of the numbers used for the majority of the backs. I would add some receptions to Martin, McCoy, and Rice while taking away from Petterson, Bush, and Jackson. I am higher on Richardson, thinking his rushing total will go up and his receptions could go down.

 

[Phenix]

How did you arrive at your statistics? You didn't ever explain that.

Tough crowd.

I guess I used my football knowledge of past performance and current situation.

Ask Dodds how he does his, I'm sure u will get close to the same answer.

 

[Phenix]

To generous with the total yardage a rushing yardage. On average only 15 rb's will break 1000 yards, I do like most of the numbers used for the majority of the backs. I would add some receptions to Martin, McCoy, and Rice while taking away from Petterson, Bush, and Jackson. I am higher on Richardson, thinking his rushing total will go up and his receptions could go down.

20 is not too far off from the norm Also, these new helmet to helmet rules benefit the runners, I believe that will show more this year.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I realize there are other RBs entering the mix and he doesn't get a ton of receptions, but no one else thinks Frank Gore belongs in the Top 20?

I really think that Gore will lose a substantial amount of carries and touches this year. Hunter and James will be bigger factors, in my opinion.

I agree. I'm staying away from Gore. Over 30, is no longer involved in the passing game and two young more dynamic backs that should get worked in a bit more into the mix. Of course the guy seems to get buried each offseason, only to shake off the dirt and produce, but father time is undefeated as they say.