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Top 5 2014 RB Prospects (1 Viewer)

Concept Coop

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This RB group is pretty unique, in that opinions seem to be all over the place. There is no consensus top option, or even a consistent top 3. It will be interesting to look back and see how drastically the combine/draft changed things. Take a stab.

As of today, I'd go:

Seastrunk

Hyde

Mason

Carey

Sankey

 
Can't wait to see the combine. Right now I'd go Seastrunk, Mason, Carey, Hyde, Sankey.

Maybe I'm just slow on the Hyde 180 though

 
Can't wait to see the combine. Right now I'd go Seastrunk, Mason, Carey, Hyde, Sankey.

Maybe I'm just slow on the Hyde 180 though
His highlights didn't jump out to me when I first watched them, either. When I went back and watched a few games, however, I started coming around.

 
Seastrunk

Hyde

Mason

Freeman

Sankey

I almost feel like putting Andre Williams in a separate category since he's so different from the other guys. Not nearly as versatile, but what he does well, he does really well. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him come off the board as RB2-RB3. Very curious to see him run at the combine because I think he has the potential to look kind of scary from a height/weight/speed standpoint. We'll see.

 
EBF just beat me to the punch... though I believe Seastrunk and Hyde to be 1A and 1B and nearly interchangeable, and I'll take Carey over Sankey at this point.

Seastrunk

Hyde

Mason

Freeman

Carey

 
I almost feel like putting Andre Williams in a separate category since he's so different from the other guys. Not nearly as versatile, but what he does well, he does really well. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him come off the board as RB2-RB3. Very curious to see him run at the combine because I think he has the potential to look kind of scary from a height/weight/speed standpoint. We'll see.
I agree. I just wish I knew he could catch and turn.

 
At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer

 
Concept Coop said:
EastonBlues22 said:
Are we ranking for the NFL draft, or for fantasy purposes?
I had fantasy value in mind, myself.
I think there's value in this class, but it seems like it will largely be situation based rather than talent based. Don't expect the various lists to change much after the combine, but the draft will probably shake things up quite a bit.

PPR:

Seastrunk (assuming some level of competence in the passing drills)

Sankey

Carey

Mason

Hyde

 
Sweet Love said:
Would it be fair to say Hyde is the most polarizing of the five?
I feel like he's the least polarizing of the guys routinely mentioned, because it seems like there's not much dispute about what he is. As long as he's in a situation where he gets regular touches, he'll produce steady numbers for you. Not much chance you'll get anything overtly dynamic or disappointing.

 
1. Lache Seastrunk

2. Devonta Freeman

3. Carlos Hyde

4. Ka'Deem Carey

T-5. Jay Ajayi/Marion Grice

Devonta Freeman's my favourite RB in this draft class for sure based on he's currently being valued by most.

 
At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer
Hey Geri-curl cheeseburger guy.... What is so appealing about Grice??? Seems like almost a waste of breath... But then again most of the leagues that I play in are non-RB PPR....
 
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At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer
Thumbs up on Henry Josey. I can't put him in my top 5 yet, since I've barely seen him play (there aren't any game videos of him up online, that I can find) and he is listed at only 190 pounds, but there is a pretty decent chance he'll be there by draft time. His college stats are very good, he looks legit in his highlights, and he ran a 10.50 100m in high school so he should nail the workouts.

I'd put my current top 5 as:

Seastrunk

Hyde

Hill

Ajayi

Freeman

With a lot of other contenders for that #5 spot (including Josey, Andrews, Wilder, Carey, and Mason).

 
Josey is visibly less explosive than he was in 2011 before his injury, but he still has some juice and this is his first season back. I don't expect him to wow at the combine (relative to his size) as a result, but that just makes him a better sleeper candidate if he continues to progress physically next year. Where he's drafted will probably give an idea of how much risk teams see in him. Without improvement, I see him as a RBBC guy in the NFL.

 
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What about Wilder Jr.? Most think he'll be better in the NFL. Dude likes contact. Had too much competition at FSU. Freeman and Karlos were hard to keep off the field.

 
Right now I got them this way but workout numbers and landing spot do matter to me so I'm not bashful about changing:

PPR:

Carey

Sims

Mason

Seastrunk

Hyde

 
At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer
Thumbs up on Henry Josey. I can't put him in my top 5 yet, since I've barely seen him play (there aren't any game videos of him up online, that I can find) and he is listed at only 190 pounds, but there is a pretty decent chance he'll be there by draft time. His college stats are very good, he looks legit in his highlights, and he ran a 10.50 100m in high school so he should nail the workouts.

I'd put my current top 5 as:

Seastrunk

Hyde

Hill

Ajayi

Freeman

With a lot of other contenders for that #5 spot (including Josey, Andrews, Wilder, Carey, and Mason).
Wilder is not going to be good at all, Josey is the one missing off all these lists. Sankey reminds me a lot of Ray Rice and I think he's being ranked too low, he's going to be very good.

 
I realize Coop just started this thread today, but I find it funny the SEA-NO playoff thread has 17 pages and this is still on page 1...IMO, this conversation is a lot more interesting.

 
At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer
Hey Geri-curl cheeseburger guy.... What is so appealing about Grice??? Seems like almost a waste of breath... But then again most of the leagues that I play in are non-RB PPR....
could be a ppr gold mine, very situation dependent though. Not a special back.
 
At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer
Thumbs up on Henry Josey. I can't put him in my top 5 yet, since I've barely seen him play (there aren't any game videos of him up online, that I can find) and he is listed at only 190 pounds, but there is a pretty decent chance he'll be there by draft time. His college stats are very good, he looks legit in his highlights, and he ran a 10.50 100m in high school so he should nail the workouts.

I'd put my current top 5 as:

Seastrunk

Hyde

Hill

Ajayi

Freeman

With a lot of other contenders for that #5 spot (including Josey, Andrews, Wilder, Carey, and Mason).
ajayi declared?
 
At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer
Thumbs up on Henry Josey. I can't put him in my top 5 yet, since I've barely seen him play (there aren't any game videos of him up online, that I can find) and he is listed at only 190 pounds, but there is a pretty decent chance he'll be there by draft time. His college stats are very good, he looks legit in his highlights, and he ran a 10.50 100m in high school so he should nail the workouts.

I'd put my current top 5 as:

Seastrunk

Hyde

Hill

Ajayi

Freeman

With a lot of other contenders for that #5 spot (including Josey, Andrews, Wilder, Carey, and Mason).
ajayi declared?
No but people are assuming it's gonna happen. Same thing with Devonta Freeman.

 
At the immediate moment?

Hyde

Seastrunk

Mason

Grice

Sankey

Freeman

Sims

Thomas

Crowell

Carey

Josey

Williams

Dyer
Thumbs up on Henry Josey. I can't put him in my top 5 yet, since I've barely seen him play (there aren't any game videos of him up online, that I can find) and he is listed at only 190 pounds, but there is a pretty decent chance he'll be there by draft time. His college stats are very good, he looks legit in his highlights, and he ran a 10.50 100m in high school so he should nail the workouts.

I'd put my current top 5 as:

Seastrunk

Hyde

Hill

Ajayi

Freeman

With a lot of other contenders for that #5 spot (including Josey, Andrews, Wilder, Carey, and Mason).
ajayi declared?
I don't know if he can, looks to be a sophomore to me is there a red shirt somewhere?

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?
There's no transcendent talent at RB this year. Hell, there's no elite talent at RB this year. So if you can make an argument for him at #3, then you can make an argument for him at #1.

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?
Ultimately, a RB that isn't trusted/competent in the passing game has a limited ceiling in today's NFL/FFB landscape.

Hard to know how Seastrunk grades out there at this point given the limited information.

 
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Personally think ppl are sleeping on Tre Mason, in a serious way

I know he's on everyone's lists, but very rarely at the top. Think he's the #1 in this class, for sure

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?
There's no transcendent talent at RB this year. Hell, there's no elite talent at RB this year. So if you can make an argument for him at #3, then you can make an argument for him at #1.
everyone thought Trich was the best since ADP, so lets at least let the underwear Olympics play out before we put the nail in the coffin of this draft

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?
There's no transcendent talent at RB this year. Hell, there's no elite talent at RB this year. So if you can make an argument for him at #3, then you can make an argument for him at #1.
everyone thought Trich was the best since ADP, so lets at least let the underwear Olympics play out before we put the nail in the coffin of this draft
Good point. I really meant in terms of general perception, right now.

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?
There's no transcendent talent at RB this year. Hell, there's no elite talent at RB this year. So if you can make an argument for him at #3, then you can make an argument for him at #1.
everyone thought Trich was the best since ADP, so lets at least let the underwear Olympics play out before we put the nail in the coffin of this draft
Good point. I really meant in terms of general perception, right now.
right now, just from a RB perspective I like this class a lot better already. (given what we thought of Bell,Ball,Lacy etc)

 
Here's the consensus leaderboard so far, with number of votes for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Seastrunk & Hyde are the only 2 RBs appearing on every person's list:

Seastrunk 7 2 0 1 0
Hyde 2 4 1 1 2
Mason 0 1 5 1 0
Carey 1 0 2 3 1
Freeman 0 1 1 2 1
Sankey 0 1 0 0 4
Sims 0 1 0 0 1
Ajayi 0 0 0 1 1
Hill 0 0 1 0 0
Grice 0 0 0 1 0

 
Personally think ppl are sleeping on Tre Mason, in a serious way

I know he's on everyone's lists, but very rarely at the top. Think he's the #1 in this class, for sure
He's small for his style of play.
I know a few small backs who have had pretty delicious fantasy careers.

very low tread on his tires as well
Yeah I know a fg kicker that did pretty well with a club foot too. Should we be looking for FG kickers with club feet?

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?
There's no transcendent talent at RB this year. Hell, there's no elite talent at RB this year. So if you can make an argument for him at #3, then you can make an argument for him at #1.
I like Mason and Hyde more right now, would be curious to hear people elaborate on Seastrunk.

 
Personally think ppl are sleeping on Tre Mason, in a serious way

I know he's on everyone's lists, but very rarely at the top. Think he's the #1 in this class, for sure
He's small for his style of play.
I know a few small backs who have had pretty delicious fantasy careers.

very low tread on his tires as well
Yeah I know a fg kicker that did pretty well with a club foot too. Should we be looking for FG kickers with club feet?
that's nice.

Mason has passed every eyeball test with me, except elite speed. broke records, and did it behind an o-line that is NOT elite.

has doen it against top college teams/DEF more-so than seastrunk... that's why he's my no1

 
My mind keeps getting blown at Seastrunk being no1 on so many lists...

what did I miss? he's top 5 to me.. I can stretch at top 3... but 1? really?
There's no transcendent talent at RB this year. Hell, there's no elite talent at RB this year. So if you can make an argument for him at #3, then you can make an argument for him at #1.
I like Mason and Hyde more right now, would be curious to hear people elaborate on Seastrunk.
His acceleration is amazing. I think he has good vision but you can't teach what happens when that guy finds a hole, he has tremendous leg strength and he is probably going to be among the fastest RBs at the combine if not the fastest. He is very physical for a guy with his kind of speed, but I also see lots of groin and hamstring issues because his lower body is so big. I definitely like him better than Hyde even thinking Hyde was the better college RB. Mason and him are a little different, I think Seastrunk has the higher ceiling but Mason could be the better back. Those are my top two though, with Sankey third.

 
Personally think ppl are sleeping on Tre Mason, in a serious way

I know he's on everyone's lists, but very rarely at the top. Think he's the #1 in this class, for sure
He's small for his style of play.
I know a few small backs who have had pretty delicious fantasy careers.

very low tread on his tires as well
Yeah I know a fg kicker that did pretty well with a club foot too. Should we be looking for FG kickers with club feet?
that's nice.

Mason has passed every eyeball test with me, except elite speed. broke records, and did it behind an o-line that is NOT elite.

has doen it against top college teams/DEF more-so than seastrunk... that's why he's my no1
Greg Robinson says hello.

You said yourself Mason doesn't have elite speed. I agree. So what we have is a slow/small power back with good vision running behind a great OL with an elite run blocking OT. I mean I not saying he can't be successful in the NFL but he has a lot of things working against him. That's why he's not a lot of peoples #1 on here.

 
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You said yourself Mason doesn't have elite speed. I agree. So what we have is a slow/small power back with good vision running behind a great OL with an elite run blocking OT. I mean I not saying he can't be successful in the NFL but he has a lot of things working against him. That's why he's not a lot of peoples #1 on here.
Auburn does not have a great OL. This season, I will admit they were good -> very good at most

and not possessing elite speed doesn't mean he's slow. you dont bust 50+yd gains weekly w slow speed

 
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Here's the consensus leaderboard so far, with number of votes for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Seastrunk & Hyde are the only 2 RBs appearing on every person's list:

Seastrunk 7 2 0 1 0

Hyde 2 4 1 1 2

Mason 0 1 5 1 0

Carey 1 0 2 3 1

Freeman 0 1 1 2 1

Sankey 0 1 0 0 4

Sims 0 1 0 0 1

Ajayi 0 0 0 1 1

Hill 0 0 1 0 0

Grice 0 0 0 1 0
Adding a column to "total" the votes (5-4-3-2-1):

Seastrunk 7 2 0 1 0 = 45

Hyde 2 4 1 1 2 = 33

Mason 0 1 5 1 0 = 21

Carey 1 0 2 3 1 = 18

Freeman 0 1 1 2 1 = 12

Sankey 0 1 0 0 4 = 8

Sims 0 1 0 0 1 = 5

Hill 0 0 1 0 0 = 3

Ajayi 0 0 0 1 1 = 3

Grice 0 0 0 1 0 = 2

 
You said yourself Mason doesn't have elite speed. I agree. So what we have is a slow/small power back with good vision running behind a great OL with an elite run blocking OT. I mean I not saying he can't be successful in the NFL but he has a lot of things working against him. That's why he's not a lot of peoples #1 on here.
Auburn does not have a great OL. This season, I will admit they were good -> very good at most

and not possessing elite speed doesn't mean he's slow. you dont bust 50+yd gains weekly w slow speed
You do realize that Greg Robinson has a legit shot at being the first OT taken in this draft right?

 
You said yourself Mason doesn't have elite speed. I agree. So what we have is a slow/small power back with good vision running behind a great OL with an elite run blocking OT. I mean I not saying he can't be successful in the NFL but he has a lot of things working against him. That's why he's not a lot of peoples #1 on here.
Auburn does not have a great OL. This season, I will admit they were good -> very good at most

and not possessing elite speed doesn't mean he's slow. you dont bust 50+yd gains weekly w slow speed
You do realize that Greg Robinson has a legit shot at being the first OT taken in this draft right?
I wont disagree with that.

But takes much more than one player to say an oline is great - tell me about the others on that line... all "awardless" this season, no?

 
Personally think ppl are sleeping on Tre Mason, in a serious way

I know he's on everyone's lists, but very rarely at the top. Think he's the #1 in this class, for sure
He's small for his style of play.
I know a few small backs who have had pretty delicious fantasy careers.

very low tread on his tires as well
Yeah I know a fg kicker that did pretty well with a club foot too. Should we be looking for FG kickers with club feet?
that's nice.

Mason has passed every eyeball test with me, except elite speed. broke records, and did it behind an o-line that is NOT elite.

If he runs in the 4.4's he is my number one too....
 
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