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Off the top of my head, I'd go with:1) Peterson2) Calvin3) Foster4) Martin5) Rice
No way I'd draft Demaryius Thomas before the 14th round next year either. He only caught 4 passes for 13 yards this week. Not worthy of an earlier pick than that, IMO.
You realize that Freeman was the QB in Tampa THIS year, right?Because Marting did pretty well as a rookie.
Sounds like his poor performance this week cost him a win and is weighing in on his decision a little too much.
Well, I am someone who would never take a QB in the top 5 (or even the 1st round), so I can't get on board with that. Green will be a 1st rounder, but not top 5.
No way I'm taking Adrian Peterson in the first 5 picks if Ponder is still the QB in Minny......
I think the team is young and will only improve next year.
Not even close to the same thing, AP is an Elite RB. Martin is having a good run but without a 58 point week which is almost impossible to repeat he is closer to the RB6 than RB3.If he puts a QB/Calvin in his top 5 then I could see why he wouldn't draft him in the top 5.
Why will they improve though? In theory I agree with you that they should. But I think their albatross is Freeman who at 24 years of age has shown all the ability of a Mark Sanchez. This league is full of rookie QB's and second yr QB's who almost instantly make their teams relevant. After 4 years, it's just about time to close the book on these 4 year guys who continue to hold their team back. Tampa has a ways to go, especially with their defense. But the biggest thing holding them back is Freeman, who they should turn the page on already. I agree that Doug Martin is a potential top 5 stud in fantasy, but his QB situation will hold him back.
Shon Green really isn't that good.
yes.
QBs age 24 or younger with a season of 3,470 yards and 25 TDs
an Marino (2)Matthew StaffordDaunte CulpepperPeyton Manning (3)Derek AndersonDrew Bledsoe (2)Joe NamathJosh FreemanIf he gets to 3,800 yards and 28 TDs in the last 2 weeks, the list shrinks to Marino, Stafford, Culpepper, Manning and Freeman.66 TDs, 40 Ints, and over 10,500 the last three years. Sanchez has never had a season within a country mile of Freeman's 2012 or 2010.Stunk it up last week if you started in your semi-final so I can appreciate the frustration, but he's not a bad QB. He's merely not great.
Leave, troll.Freeman's 2012 season pace, removing last week's aberration:29 TDs/9 INTs3660 passing yards~90 QB ratingHardly Mark Sanchez. Try at least scanning the statistics before making yourself look foolish next time.We get it, Freeman had a bad week and you were knocked out of your fantasy football playoffs. Suck it up.
No they will have somebody else in there to split carries.He'll be a Top 10 RB, won't give him Top 5.
Aren't you the guy who back in September told people not to waste their time on Brandon Myers? Ya know, the same Myers who, despite two recent duds, has still been a borderline top 5 TE this year?In other words, beware of what this guy says.
So who do you remove?Peterson? - noFoster? - noCalvin? - noWould you draft CJ Spiller over Martin or Ray Rice? I wouldn't.It's easy to say someone should be top 5, harder to actually bump someone out.I'd take Spiller around 7 or 8.
Hey fool. I own Freeman in exactly ZERO leagues. I am in two championships this week. But you go ahead and pimp your fake football insights on the boxscores you read the next day.
And what did Myers do for those who banked on him in the playoffs? eh? Toilet bowl bound.
i take spiller over martin. proly not rice tho.
Yeah, I'll admit. Dude suprised me. He's in a contract year. If he asks for a significant raise, I hope the Raiders let him walk. He took advantage of the Raiders brutal lack of running game and regression of the wideouts. You got me there. I was wrong. Happy?
Name calling? Are you 12?
he started it!
No, because unlike some posters here, I don't come here looking to always be right so I can flex my ego, but when you are as dead wrong as you have been, and then talk in such absolutes about a player stinking, when the facts show that he has been very good this year (Freeman), you deserve to be called out.
Shonn Greene not Green
No Richardson?
Hasty list. Forgot about him. For me at least, he'd be somewhere in the 2nd half of the top ten.
Figured as much.
It's a toss up for me but I lean towards Foster due to higher expectations for catches, TDs and Houston's offense as a whole. No way I would question someone taking AP #1 though.
Not trying to bash someone's opinion, but wasn't this the same exacty line of thinking for people avoiding Calvin Johnson this season? Almost a Madden-curse line of thinking? It seems very silly to me.Not to mention how many straight seasons LaDanian Tomlinson and many other elite RBs justified a top pick.'Shutout said:
if peterson gets downgraded for his yards, shouldnt foster be downgraded for his workload? he is on pace for 400+ touches (currently at 361.) then ofc he will be utilized heavily in the playoffs. and the past 2 seasons he has racked up a large workload as well.'Shutout said:
Talking about two different things. In WR terms, what Calvin is doing is highly unusual and almost no on has doe it before. But this is avery different NFL in terms of WRs being thrown to more and, more importantly, being protected more acorss the middle as well as being handled physically. So even though it is a little off the conventional line of thinking, I absolutely think Calvin warrants the selection based on all the above and the Lions situaiton in general.Peterson, on the other hand, is still a RB and history has written for us that NO RB puts up the amount of physical pounding that RBs take in years with this many cummulative carries and yards (300+, the 2000+) and follows that up with another clear cut dominant season like this. This is not to be confused with "will he be a top RB and have a great season?" He's awsome. He probably will. But what I'm talking about is in terms of CLEAR #1 overall pick as it seems to be starting to being laid out.
Gotta love ADP and I think you may be underestimating the impact Kalil is having on that offensive line. The kid is the real deal and he makes the whole line better.But the thing about Foster is he is a TD machine. ADP put up 18 in '09 but that was his high water mark and he has been a 12 TD guy for the most part, while Foster has put up 16 TDs in two of the last three years and he put up 12 last year despite missing three games. I think is Foster is a safer bet for TD production.The other reason I would lean to Foster over ADP is that ADP is having a career year and I am always a little wary of guys coming off career years.Either way they are the top two RBs on the board in '13.'Warrior said:
I have to agree with this...it does not mean I would not take ADP with the #2 pick, because personally, picking that high, I strongly consider the floor of the player and think his will be quite high (i.e. not a huge dropoff), but I still lean towards Foster at this point.One player who I do not think was mentioned is LeSean McCoy. While on "today's" team he would not qualify, I do think that if he recovers from the concussion well and they get the o-line back healthy, he could be a nice pick if the coaching staff uses him well. problem is, we never saw him (or any of Reid's) workhorse RBs on other teams in their prime, so we do not really have a barometer of what to expect. I bring this up because we have seen how his QBs have done outside of his system, and it is not pretty.'Shutout said:
no horse in this race and not trying to rekindle a semi hijack of this thread....but just wanted to comment...not sure it's fair to label his performance last week as a total aberration.....he had one of the juiciest matchups possible for a QB.....'Warrior said:
