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Top 8 picks in the 2006 NFL draft (1 Viewer)

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Per the Colin Cowherd radio show here are the top 8 picks in the 2006 NFL draft.1. Texans – Reggie Bush, RB-USC2. Jets (via trade w/49ers) – Matt Leinart, QB-USC3. Saints – AJ Hawk, LB-Ohio State4. 49ers (via trade with Jets) – DeAngelo Williams, RB-Memphis5. Cardinals – Jimmy Williams, DB- (didn’t catch the school but I think it’s Va. Tech)6. Ravens – D. Ferguson, OL-Virginia7. Titans – M. Kiwanuka, DE-Boston College8. Packers – L. White, RB-USC

 
I keep seeing Hawk at the top of these lists. Does anyone (outside of Buckeyes) think this will actually come to pass?

 
I believe the Titans at 7 would a LenDale White before Kiwanuka. Brown and White would be used just like Bush and White. The Titans already have alot of good youn depth on the def. front.

 
I keep seeing Hawk at the top of these lists.  Does anyone (outside of Buckeyes) think this will actually come to pass?
He is the best linebacker (NCAA) that I have ever had the pleasure of watching. The guy will be the best LB in the NFL within 5 years...Northwestern coach Randy Walker had this to say about Hawk:

"They were just so fast, and A.J. Hawk is a special player. I don't think I've ever seen a guy who can run, make plays with the instincts.

He's as good as I've seen in 30 years, and you surround him with a whole bunch of guys that aren't bad either; Carpenter, and the guys up front --"

 
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Texans will not have the first pickFirst 9 games 5 were against teams 7-2 or betterLast 7 games 4 against 2-7 teams, and only 2 have better than a .500 record

 
Texans will not have the first pick

First 9 games 5 were against teams 7-2 or better

Last 7 games 4 against 2-7 teams, and only 2 have better than a .500 record
No way that L. White goes ahead of Maroney.
 
From what I've heard (and I stress "heard"), this draft class is supposed to be outstanding for O-linemen - that there will high-end types and lots of them. But there is only one in the top 8 picks?I'm guessing not.

 
I keep seeing Hawk at the top of these lists.  Does anyone (outside of Buckeyes) think this will actually come to pass?
He is the best linebacker (NCAA) that I have ever had the pleasure of watching. The guy will be the best LB in the NFL within 5 years...Northwestern coach Randy Walker had this to say about Hawk:

"They were just so fast, and A.J. Hawk is a special player. I don't think I've ever seen a guy who can run, make plays with the instincts.

He's as good as I've seen in 30 years, and you surround him with a whole bunch of guys that aren't bad either; Carpenter, and the guys up front --"
I'm not saying he isn't good, I just don't think he goes that high. It's been quite a while since a LB went in the top 3. Looking at the last 5 years.2004 - Vilma 12th overall

2003 - Suggs 10th overall

2002 - Harris 23rd overall

2001 - Morgan 11th overall

2000 - Arrington 2nd overall

Add in the fact that he's got a pretty good "supporting cast" and I think you'll see him fall back a good bit.

 
If the Texans draft a position player in the 1st round, they should be sent to NFL Europe. They need a defense and line, not another friggin RB.

 
So if the jets and 49ers swap 1sts what is the compensation?
Jets send the #4 overall, their 3rd rder and KCs 2nd rder they received in exchange for the rights to Herman Edwards (I would help pack Herm's bags in this deal!)I doubt the JEts go for Leinert - from the limited times I have seen him - he looks a lot like Chad. Anyone give me a detailed readout on Matt?

Also with a ton of money locked into Penny - I see them going RB and let Curtis mentore a young back ala Faulk/S Jax.

 
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The Texans' major weakness on offense is their offensive line. I can't see them missing out on the best O-Line class in years, regardless of where they end up picking. If they end up with the top pick, I've got to imagine some team in the top 10 will have a hard-on for Leinart or Quinn, and would look to trade up. Ferguson would be an option with the top pick, too.

 
The Texans' major weakness on offense is their offensive line. I can't see them missing out on the best O-Line class in years, regardless of where they end up picking. If they end up with the top pick, I've got to imagine some team in the top 10 will have a hard-on for Leinart or Quinn, and would look to trade up. Ferguson would be an option with the top pick, too.
:goodposting: The last thing the Texans need is another RB, that's one of the few positions where they have at least some serviceable players. It would be a crime if they passed on one of the top tackles in this draft.

 
I still have a hard believing the Texans will pass on Leinart
They pass on Leinart and they continue their suckiness under carr for years. I need Leinart to the Texans to team with Andre the Great and Bush to the Jets where noodle arm Pennington can throw him 70 yard TD swingpasses all day long.
 
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When I think of the top 8, I think the player has to have superstar kind of qualities. Let's go by position.QB - Leinart, Jacobs?, Young (if he comes out)RB - Bush, Maroney, Williams, White (darkhorse)WR - noneTE - Pope?OT - Ferguson, Winston, McNeillOG - noneC - noneDT - WrightDE - Mario Williams, KiwanukaLB - Hawk, Brooks, GreenwayCB - Jimmy WilliamsS - noneThat's 18 guys, I'd probably rank them1. Leinart2. Bush3. Kiwanuka4. Mario Williams5. AJ Hawk6. Winston7. Ferguson8. Young

 
Vikings get into the top 10, let the draft timer expire and miss out Hawk/Greenway/ Ryans. :P

 
Texans will not have the first pick

First 9 games 5 were against teams 7-2 or better

Last 7 games 4 against 2-7 teams, and only 2 have better than a .500 record
No way that L. White goes ahead of Maroney.
It wouldn't shock me at all if that happened. Personally I like White better than Maroney.
 
Hawk is ugly.
This is the only thing I agree with so far.Hawk will be a top 5 pick and will probably go to the Saints.

If the Texans select anyone other than D'Brackishaw Ferguson with their first pick, regardless of the order, they should all be shot.

The Jets will move up to get Leinart, no doubt about it.

The Packers will draft a RB, but it may not be Bush.

Who knows what the Niners will do, but they should trade down and pick up some defense and maybe a receiver.

 
I'm not saying he isn't good, I just don't think he goes that high. It's been quite a while since a LB went in the top 3. Looking at the last 5 years.

2004 - Vilma 12th overall

2003 - Suggs 10th overall

2002 - Harris 23rd overall

2001 - Morgan 11th overall

2000 - Arrington 2nd overall

Add in the fact that he's got a pretty good "supporting cast" and I think you'll see him fall back a good bit.
Its not so much that Hawk is THAT much better than the top LB prospects of recent drafts, its that the Saints will be picking very high in the first, and that Hawk is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for their D. His attitude and effort are very reminiscent of Urlacher - he's the kind of guy that can give a defense an identity, something the saints are sorely lacking. He's really a perfect fit for their needs. I see Hawk to the Saints and Ferguson to the Texans as two of the most likely pairings at this very early juncture.
 
Kiwanuka is the most impressive defensive player I've seen in this draft.
Not even the best DE... Mario Williams. :thumbup:
Williams has the tools, but i dont know if he has the motor.
Kiwanuka vs. Williams will be a great debate. I prefer Kiwanuka because he seems to make more plays than Williams does. Williams has not gotten much coaching at NCSU and is very raw despite being a 3 year starter. Both are phyiscal freaks.
 
Kiwanuka is the most impressive defensive player I've seen in this draft.
Not even the best DE... Mario Williams. :thumbup:
Williams has the tools, but i dont know if he has the motor.
Kiwanuka vs. Williams will be a great debate. I prefer Kiwanuka because he seems to make more plays than Williams does. Williams has not gotten much coaching at NCSU and is very raw despite being a 3 year starter. Both are phyiscal freaks.
I tend to agree. In either case, it's no secret that Green Bay wants/needs to upgrade their DE position. Seems like Kiwanuka is the closest thing to Jason Taylor that Jim Bates would find in this draft. They're already cutting down on KGB's plays, and I'm not sure that their current sub (Montegomery) is the answer. A KGB/Kiwanuka pass rush combo would be terrifying for opposing offenses.
 
When I think of the top 8, I think the player has to have superstar kind of qualities. Let's go by position.

QB - Leinart, Jacobs?, Young (if he comes out)

RB - Bush, Maroney, Williams, White (darkhorse)

WR - none

TE - Pope?

OT - Ferguson, Winston, McNeill

OG - none

C - none

DT - Wright

DE - Mario Williams, Kiwanuka

LB - Hawk, Brooks, Greenway

CB - Jimmy Williams

S - none

That's 18 guys, I'd probably rank them

1. Leinart

2. Bush

3. Kiwanuka

4. Mario Williams

5. AJ Hawk

6. Winston

7. Ferguson

8. Young
I would add Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon - I think he'll grade out similar to the DTs who have cracked the top 10 recently. If you want a guy who will consistently take up two blockers, he's your man - an absolute beast at 6'5" 340 with athletic ability to spare. I also think Jonathon Scott, an OT from Texas could creep up the boards.

I think Marcedes Lewis will grade out higher than Pope, but that neither will crack the top 15. At QB, youve got the possibility that Quinn comes out, which i think is more likely than young coming out. At WR, I agree that there is no real impact guy out there, however, some team with a huge need at WR could reach for a baskett or nance since big WRs are such the rage right now.

 
If the Texans end up in th first pick, they'd be in a tough position.Do you pay #1 overall money to an offensive lineman? And if you don't, do you take Leinart and gamble that you could keep him alive behind that line.No way they take a RB.Their best option would be to trade out of the spot which appears to be much easier to do this year than last as there would be many teams needing the type of player that deserves to go #1 - Leinart or Bush.

 
So if the jets and 49ers swap 1sts what is the compensation?
Herm Edwards?I can't see the Jets going QB without getting a new GM / HC

And I FEAR they won't get a new GM/HC.....

I'm already freaking out that once again, the Jets will miss an opportunity to get a franchise QB.

 
Kiwanuka is the most impressive defensive player I've seen in this draft.
Not even the best DE... Mario Williams. :thumbup:
Williams has the tools, but i dont know if he has the motor.
Kiwanuka vs. Williams will be a great debate. I prefer Kiwanuka because he seems to make more plays than Williams does. Williams has not gotten much coaching at NCSU and is very raw despite being a 3 year starter. Both are phyiscal freaks.
I tend to agree. In either case, it's no secret that Green Bay wants/needs to upgrade their DE position. Seems like Kiwanuka is the closest thing to Jason Taylor that Jim Bates would find in this draft. They're already cutting down on KGB's plays, and I'm not sure that their current sub (Montegomery) is the answer. A KGB/Kiwanuka pass rush combo would be terrifying for opposing offenses.
I think the tools are close to equal. I prefer Kiwanuka based on character and makeup.
 
Bush, Leinart and Ferguson are the best players in the draft and should go top 3. No one with the #3 pick will pass up whoever is left.

 
So if the jets and 49ers swap 1sts what is the compensation?
Herm Edwards?I can't see the Jets going QB without getting a new GM / HC

And I FEAR they won't get a new GM/HC.....

I'm already freaking out that once again, the Jets will miss an opportunity to get a franchise QB.
I'd much prefer that they go RB in the 1st round. Pair Reggie Bush with mentor C-Mart. Look for a serviceable QB in the used market during the off-season, worst case Fiedler can run the team. RB and then O-Line should be primary areas of emphasis. Herm, for better or worse, will be back for 2006.
 
So if the jets and 49ers swap 1sts what is the compensation?
Herm Edwards?I can't see the Jets going QB without getting a new GM / HC

And I FEAR they won't get a new GM/HC.....

I'm already freaking out that once again, the Jets will miss an opportunity to get a franchise QB.
I take it you're a Jets fan. Are you saying if you had a choice between Leinert and Bush you'd want Leinert? Instead of a successor to CMart?
 
So if the jets and 49ers swap 1sts what is the compensation?
Herm Edwards?I can't see the Jets going QB without getting a new GM / HC

And I FEAR they won't get a new GM/HC.....

I'm already freaking out that once again, the Jets will miss an opportunity to get a franchise QB.
Don't worry, with Bollinger at QB, they might get the first pick overall withOUT trading up.
 
OT - Ferguson, Winston, McNeillOG - noneC - none
Someone else mentioned the OL depth this year, so I'll add what I've been reading.Ferguson and Winston will compete for the highest grade. Most expect D'Brick to be a top five pick with a possibility of going #1 overall. Marcus McNeil and John Scott could both work their way into the top 10. Andrew Whitworth and Jeremy Trueblood should also go in the first 20-23 picks. These are all Tackles. Greg Elsinger is a dominant Center out of Minnesota who will have a first round grade, and could go before a few of these Tackles. Max Gean-Gilles, a monster guard from Georgia has the same opportunity as Elsinger to move ahead of a couple Tackles. From smaller schools both Darryn Colledge (Boise St) and Kevin Boothe (Cornell) can test their way into the first round. That's just the seniors. Joe Thomas, Winston Justice, and Justin Blaylock are all Juniors with strong possibilities of declaring who could grade out after McNeil and before the others. That's 13 OLs with a possible 1st round grade, and at least 8 of them guaranteed. I probably missed someone, and I was told this weekend that Fresno State's center (name?) would be another possible 1st rounder should he declare. No doubt there's riches at OL in the 06 draft and while boring for us fantasy freaks, I think the smartest NFL teams will exploit the resource this year. I'll be surprised if less than 10 OLs go in the first round.
 
I take it you're a Jets fan. Are you saying if you had a choice between Leinert and Bush you'd want Leinert? Instead of a successor to CMart?
I don't think there's any question that, given the opportunity, you'd take the franchise QB over the franchise RB. Good running backs are easier to come by than good QBs.Of course, QBs bust at a higher rate than RBs too. :shrug:

 
If the Texans end up in th first pick, they'd be in a tough position.

Do you pay #1 overall money to an offensive lineman?  And if you don't, do you take Leinart and gamble that you could keep him alive behind that line.

No way they take a RB.

Their best option would be to trade out of the spot which appears to be much easier to do this year than last as there would be many teams needing the type of player that deserves to go #1 - Leinart or Bush.
It helps that there are probably 3-5 OTs that will be worth top 15 picks - gives the texans a lot of flexibility in finding a trade a partner.
 
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Kiwanuka is the most impressive defensive player I've seen in this draft.
Not even the best DE... Mario Williams. :thumbup:
Williams has the tools, but i dont know if he has the motor.
Kiwanuka vs. Williams will be a great debate. I prefer Kiwanuka because he seems to make more plays than Williams does. Williams has not gotten much coaching at NCSU and is very raw despite being a 3 year starter. Both are phyiscal freaks.
I tend to agree. In either case, it's no secret that Green Bay wants/needs to upgrade their DE position. Seems like Kiwanuka is the closest thing to Jason Taylor that Jim Bates would find in this draft. They're already cutting down on KGB's plays, and I'm not sure that their current sub (Montegomery) is the answer. A KGB/Kiwanuka pass rush combo would be terrifying for opposing offenses.
I think the tools are close to equal. I prefer Kiwanuka based on character and makeup.
Just curious what you mean here. I assume this is an endorsement for Kiwanuka as I've never heard any knocks on Williams' character.
 
OT - Ferguson, Winston, McNeill

OG - none

C - none
Someone else mentioned the OL depth this year, so I'll add what I've been reading.Ferguson and Winston will compete for the highest grade. Most expect D'Brick to be a top five pick with a possibility of going #1 overall. Marcus McNeil and John Scott could both work their way into the top 10. Andrew Whitworth and Jeremy Trueblood should also go in the first 20-23 picks. These are all Tackles. Greg Elsinger is a dominant Center out of Minnesota who will have a first round grade, and could go before a few of these Tackles. Max Gean-Gilles, a monster guard from Georgia has the same opportunity as Elsinger to move ahead of a couple Tackles. From smaller schools both Darryn Colledge (Boise St) and Kevin Boothe (Cornell) can test their way into the first round. That's just the seniors. Joe Thomas, Winston Justice, and Justin Blaylock are all Juniors with strong possibilities of declaring who could grade out after McNeil and before the others. That's 13 OLs with a possible 1st round grade, and at least 8 of them guaranteed. I probably missed someone, and I was told this weekend that Fresno State's center (name?) would be another possible 1st rounder should he declare. No doubt there's riches at OL in the 06 draft and while boring for us fantasy freaks, I think the smartest NFL teams will exploit the resource this year. I'll be surprised if less than 10 OLs go in the first round.
:goodposting: a couple of things to add:

Blalock is a UT junior, and we know their track record on leaving Austin. They don't, except Kwame Cavil. Who's Kwame Cavil? EXXXXACTLY.

Gilles will be a brilliant pick for a run first team (Denver?) He is a road grader of the highest order.

Justice is frustrating, kinda Alex Barron-esque. He should be a lot better than he is. He would be smart to return for another year with this great class of OTs.

 
Kiwanuka is the most impressive defensive player I've seen in this draft.
Not even the best DE... Mario Williams. :thumbup:
Williams has the tools, but i dont know if he has the motor.
Kiwanuka vs. Williams will be a great debate. I prefer Kiwanuka because he seems to make more plays than Williams does. Williams has not gotten much coaching at NCSU and is very raw despite being a 3 year starter. Both are phyiscal freaks.
I tend to agree. In either case, it's no secret that Green Bay wants/needs to upgrade their DE position. Seems like Kiwanuka is the closest thing to Jason Taylor that Jim Bates would find in this draft. They're already cutting down on KGB's plays, and I'm not sure that their current sub (Montegomery) is the answer. A KGB/Kiwanuka pass rush combo would be terrifying for opposing offenses.
I think the tools are close to equal. I prefer Kiwanuka based on character and makeup.
Just curious what you mean here. I assume this is an endorsement for Kiwanuka as I've never heard any knocks on Williams' character.
right. not a knock on williams at all, just saying that kiwanuka is an A+ in these areas.
 
If the Texans end up in th first pick, they'd be in a tough position.

Do you pay #1 overall money to an offensive lineman? And if you don't, do you take Leinart and gamble that you could keep him alive behind that line.

No way they take a RB.

Their best option would be to trade out of the spot which appears to be much easier to do this year than last as there would be many teams needing the type of player that deserves to go #1 - Leinart or Bush.
It helps that there are probably 3-5 OTs will be worth top 15 picks - gives the texans a lot of flexibility in finding a trade a partner.
Right. Given this scenario of who picks were, I think it would be crazy if none of the GM's for the Jets, Saints, Cardinals, or Ravens tried to move up to #1 and snag Leinart.
 
If the Texans end up in th first pick, they'd be in a tough position.

Do you pay #1 overall money to an offensive lineman?  And if you don't, do you take Leinart and gamble that you could keep him alive behind that line.

No way they take a RB.

Their best option would be to trade out of the spot which appears to be much easier to do this year than last as there would be many teams needing the type of player that deserves to go #1 - Leinart or Bush.
It helps that there are probably 3-5 OTs will be worth top 15 picks - gives the texans a lot of flexibility in finding a trade a partner.
Right. Given this scenario of who picks were, I think it would be crazy if none of the GM's for the Jets, Saints, Cardinals, or Ravens tried to move up to #1 and snag Leinart.
Dont forget the Lions.Or even *gasp* the Titans? McNair is due a big bonus, and Volek is not nearly as attractive an option long term as Leinart, and could bring some picks in a trade. It seems obvious, but why wouldnt you want to reunite a QB with the OC that he flourished with in college?

 
Right. Given this scenario of who picks were, I think it would be crazy if none of the GM's for the Jets, Saints, Cardinals, or Ravens tried to move up to #1 and snag Leinart.
Dont forget the Lions.Or even *gasp* the Titans? McNair is due a big bonus, and Volek is not nearly as attractive an option long term as Leinart, and could bring some picks in a trade. It seems obvious, but why wouldnt you want to reunite a QB with the OC that he flourished with in college?
Makes sense. But the Titans have a lot more pressing needs than Leinart, and Volek could be a "good enough" option for now.I'm a Vikings fan, but I'd like to see what would happen if Leinart somehow ended up with the Lions.

 
I take it you're a Jets fan. Are you saying if you had a choice between Leinert and Bush you'd want Leinert? Instead of a successor to CMart?
I don't think there's any question that, given the opportunity, you'd take the franchise QB over the franchise RB. Good running backs are easier to come by than good QBs.Of course, QBs bust at a higher rate than RBs too. :shrug:
This is true. I guess i'm more sold on Bush than I am on Leinert. Bush is gonna be a stud. Leinert...could be...but could also be a Carr/Harrington type. (though i will admit Carr and Harrington suck in large part to their O-lines).
 
If the Texans end up in th first pick, they'd be in a tough position.

Do you pay #1 overall money to an offensive lineman? And if you don't, do you take Leinart and gamble that you could keep him alive behind that line.

No way they take a RB.

Their best option would be to trade out of the spot which appears to be much easier to do this year than last as there would be many teams needing the type of player that deserves to go #1 - Leinart or Bush.
It helps that there are probably 3-5 OTs will be worth top 15 picks - gives the texans a lot of flexibility in finding a trade a partner.
Right. Given this scenario of who picks were, I think it would be crazy if none of the GM's for the Jets, Saints, Cardinals, or Ravens tried to move up to #1 and snag Leinart.
Dont forget the Lions.Or even *gasp* the Titans? McNair is due a big bonus, and Volek is not nearly as attractive an option long term as Leinart, and could bring some picks in a trade. It seems obvious, but why wouldnt you want to reunite a QB with the OC that he flourished with in college?
:no: if the Lions don't take one of the many outstanding Olinemen in the first round, the team should just be disbanded.

 

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