top Rbs next year (1 Viewer)

[whitewizard2]

overall last year was a rather rough year for FFRBs. there were a few success stories and a few of the failures were understandable. maroney being in the doghouse and overshadowed by brady's arm. the thing that bothered me was there were alot of injuries and the guys who did not get hurt like LT or Mcgahee just did not live up to expectations. so i am comprising a list of the what i think will be the best backs in 08. please feel free to reply with your own list.

1. westbrook

2. LT

3. willie parker

4. MJD

5. steven jackson

6. adrian peterson

7. marion barber

8. frank gore

9. joseph addai

10. ryan grant

11. deangelo williams

12. jamal lewis

13. larry johnson

14. willis macgahee

15. brandon jacobs

16. rudi johnson

17. maroney

18. clinton prtis

19. justin fargas

20. cadillac williams

21. travis henry

22. michael turner

that is all i could come up with. this is just a preliminary list i have come up with so i can think about how to draft RBs this year. again if you think i have some one listed too low, too high, or not listed please make a list of your own or just tell me who you think will have a good year and actually produce #s worth drafting before the fifth round. honestly RB killed me last year and i had tom brady and welker. did not even make the playoffs. ran against 3 guys in a row that keep taking over the most points scored in a single game record. i am not joking that really happened. i would score the second most points in a weekand play against the guy who scored the most points. meanwhile other guys score 23 points and pull out a win and make it to the playoffs. rough year so i am trying to prepare.

 

[BoltBacker]

IMO

Too High

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MJD

Parker

Grant

Too Low

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Turner

McGahee

Addai

Portis

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Portis at 18 is insane.

 

[Brutis]

overall last year was a rather rough year for FFRBs. there were a few success stories and a few of the failures were understandable. maroney being in the doghouse and overshadowed by brady's arm. the thing that bothered me was there were alot of injuries and the guys who did not get hurt like LT or Mcgahee just did not live up to expectations. so i am comprising a list of the what i think will be the best backs in 08. please feel free to reply with your own list. 1. westbrook2. LT3. willie parker4. MJD5. steven jackson6. adrian peterson7. marion barber8. frank gore9. joseph addai10. ryan grant11. deangelo williams12. jamal lewis13. larry johnson14. willis macgahee15. brandon jacobs16. rudi johnson17. maroney18. clinton prtis19. justin fargas20. cadillac williams21. travis henry22. michael turnerthat is all i could come up with. this is just a preliminary list i have come up with so i can think about how to draft RBs this year. again if you think i have some one listed too low, too high, or not listed please make a list of your own or just tell me who you think will have a good year and actually produce #s worth drafting before the fifth round. honestly RB killed me last year and i had tom brady and welker. did not even make the playoffs. ran against 3 guys in a row that keep taking over the most points scored in a single game record. i am not joking that really happened. i would score the second most points in a weekand play against the guy who scored the most points. meanwhile other guys score 23 points and pull out a win and make it to the playoffs. rough year so i am trying to prepare.

Does marshawn Lynch break his leg week1?

 

[JPeso]

Portis at 18 is insane.

And it continues. Once again, though, I don't mind.

 

[FUBAR]

Portis at 18 is insane.

He'll clearly miss half the season.

 

[rzrback77]

Solid title

 

[gianmarco]

Parker over Peterson?

 

[Brutis]

Parker over Peterson?

You must get bonus points for not getting TD's

 

[Shermanator]

Your opinion is great and all. But throwing a list out there that reflects where you think players will end up, but not actual draft rankings, is a bit hard to comprehend.

IE, it will take injuries and the grace of God for FWP, and MJD to finish ahead of Steven Jackson and ADP.

I am assuming this isnt your actual draft strategy though. You wouldnt really take Fast Willie over Steven Jackson. Right?

 

[Buckna]

How did LT not live up to expectations? He was the #1 fantasy RB.

I mean, it wasn't 28 TD's like the year before, but anyone expecting that again was expecting way too much.

 

[gianmarco]

Cadillac at 20?

 

[Gridiron King]

Do you watch the same NFL the rest of us watch?

 

[Donnybrook]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

 

[Couch Potato]

How did LT not live up to expectations? He was the #1 fantasy RB. I mean, it wasn't 28 TD's like the year before, but anyone expecting that again was expecting way too much.

In addition to his LT comment, the whole list is just brutal. Caddy Williams (#20) may not even play in 2008.The "Joined" date shows he joined yesterday. This guy could be a real new guy to FF, but I'm guessing we're looking someone playing games with an alias and

 

[bigmurd]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

 

[JPeso]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

The sentiment can be agreed upon, but not this list.

 

[Couch Potato]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

No, there's not just one accepted ranking, but when a guy ranks Cad Williams two spots below Portis, he can't be taken seriously. Sorry.

 

[Couch Potato]

In case the OP is just a sincere newbie, here are a few early sources for redraft rankings:

http://www.sportsline.com/fantasy/football/rankings/

http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/fanta...layer-rankings/

http://nooffseason.com/08seasonalplayerrankings.html

And a couple of sources for ADP (average draft position) rankings:

http://www.antsports.com/adp.aspx

(on this one, it's too early in the year to use 'Only Serious Mocks', so change it to 'All Mock Drafts')

http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp.php?teams=12

 

[bigmurd]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

No, there's not just one accepted ranking, but when a guy ranks Cad Williams two spots below Portis, he can't be taken seriously. Sorry.

I don't agree with that ranking either; however, outside of Caddy and Portis being at 18, what else do you not like about it?

 

[Donnybrook]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

No, there's not just one accepted ranking, but when a guy ranks Cad Williams two spots below Portis, he can't be taken seriously. Sorry.

Curious what people would say if I said that I liked Lawrence Maroney over Steven Jackson this year?

 

[Couch Potato]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

No, there's not just one accepted ranking, but when a guy ranks Cad Williams two spots below Portis, he can't be taken seriously. Sorry.

I don't agree with that ranking either; however, outside of Caddy and Portis being at 18, what else do you not like about it?

I don't like Westbrook at #1 over guys like LT, SJax, or AD. Peterson at #6, after seeing what he can do even as a rookie, is too low. He has to be top-3. Willie Parker is way too high, and if they continue to pull him or pass at the goal line, he won't make top-10 (not to mention an absolutely brutal schedule). Maurice Jones-Drew at #4 would require Fred Taylor to disappear first, so I think that's a big reach. Addai needs to go higher than both Drew and Parker at least. DeAngelo Williams is unlikely to have an opportunity to get enough carries to be #11 and he'll lose goal line carries. Jacobs will split duties too much to be #15. Rudi Johnson has to show he can still be a feature back after slowing down each of the last two years, so #16 is highly optimistic. Portis has to be in the top-12 at least, especially with the spread Zorn offense opening up running lanes for him. Fargas at #19 is a reach even if they don't draft McFadden (I think they will BTW) since he's likely to share duty with Rhodes and/or Bush, plus he has a career's worth of injury history and can't be trusted for a whole season. I think Maroney is up for a solid year and should be higher than 17 (I know many would disagree). Neither Marshawn Lynch or Ronnie Brown made the list and should certainly make the top-22, and probably top-15. Reggie Bush also missed the list and he belongs there.

 

[Donnybrook]

I think this was exactly what the guy was looking for.

again if you think i have some one listed too low, too high, or not listed please make a list of your own or just tell me who you think will have a good year and actually produce #s worth drafting before the fifth round.

 

[Sea Bass]

I thought that you guys liked "outside the box" thinking.

 

[Chachi]

 

[BoltBacker]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

No, there's not just one accepted ranking, but when a guy ranks Cad Williams two spots below Portis, he can't be taken seriously. Sorry.

I don't agree with that ranking either; however, outside of Caddy and Portis being at 18, what else do you not like about it?

I haven't looked at any other rankings yet but are McGahee/Addai at reasonable slots?MJD ranking seems dubious considering the season Fred Taylor just had.

I was hoping on the rankings that were questioned he'd throw out a sentence or two in explanation, I'd certainly be willing to listen to why he ranked those guys at those slots.

 

[FUBAR]

We are the Borg. You must be assimilated and match our RB rankings.

I largely agree with your sentiment; apparently there is only one accepted RB ranking and you'll be ridiculed if you think outside the box. However, a good way to avoid the numbskull postings is to perhaps explain why players are ranked where they are (player by player style). In that event in my experience, it leads to healthy debate instead of "I wish I was in your league" BS.

No, there's not just one accepted ranking, but when a guy ranks Cad Williams two spots below Portis, he can't be taken seriously. Sorry.

I don't agree with that ranking either; however, outside of Caddy and Portis being at 18, what else do you not like about it?

I'll break it down by tiers and bold the ones I don't see the logic for. Not the ones I disagree with, just the ones I'd appreciate an explanation on.1. westbrook

2. LT

3. willie parker

4. MJD

5. steven jackson

6. adrian peterson

7. marion barber

8. frank gore

9. joseph addai

10. ryan grant

I can see the top 10 finishing this way, at least it isn't completely outlandish. FWP will need to become more of a red zone factor; Portis, AD and Addai may have to miss some time, as will Fred Taylor - but this is possible.

11. deangelo williams

12. jamal lewis

13. larry johnson

14. willis macgahee

15. brandon jacobs

16. rudi johnson

17. maroney

18. clinton prtis

19. justin fargas

20. cadillac williams

Jacobs will have to stay healthy, Rudi will have to bounce back, Caddy will have to meet Jesus, and Portis will have to be injured, but hey, it's possible.

21. travis henry

22. michael turner

 

[cutter]

No Ronnie Brown at all. Interesting. That scared of the injury?

 

[switz]

overall last year was a rather rough year for FFRBs. there were a few success stories and a few of the failures were understandable. maroney being in the doghouse and overshadowed by brady's arm. the thing that bothered me was there were alot of injuries and the guys who did not get hurt like LT or Mcgahee just did not live up to expectations. so i am comprising a list of the what i think will be the best backs in 08. please feel free to reply with your own list. 1. westbrook2. LT3. willie parker4. MJD5. steven jackson6. adrian peterson7. marion barber8. frank gore9. joseph addai10. ryan grant11. deangelo williams12. jamal lewis13. larry johnson14. willis macgahee15. brandon jacobs16. rudi johnson17. maroney18. clinton prtis19. justin fargas20. cadillac williams21. travis henry22. michael turnerthat is all i could come up with. this is just a preliminary list i have come up with so i can think about how to draft RBs this year. again if you think i have some one listed too low, too high, or not listed please make a list of your own or just tell me who you think will have a good year and actually produce #s worth drafting before the fifth round. honestly RB killed me last year and i had tom brady and welker. did not even make the playoffs. ran against 3 guys in a row that keep taking over the most points scored in a single game record. i am not joking that really happened. i would score the second most points in a weekand play against the guy who scored the most points. meanwhile other guys score 23 points and pull out a win and make it to the playoffs. rough year so i am trying to prepare.

You've been listening to the board mob mentality.Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10? I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

 

[FUBAR]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't he at least close to being the #1 RB per game?

 

[gianmarco]

overall last year was a rather rough year for FFRBs. there were a few success stories and a few of the failures were understandable. maroney being in the doghouse and overshadowed by brady's arm. the thing that bothered me was there were alot of injuries and the guys who did not get hurt like LT or Mcgahee just did not live up to expectations. so i am comprising a list of the what i think will be the best backs in 08. please feel free to reply with your own list.

1. westbrook

2. LT

3. willie parker

4. MJD

5. steven jackson

6. adrian peterson

7. marion barber

8. frank gore

9. joseph addai

10. ryan grant

11. deangelo williams

12. jamal lewis

13. larry johnson

14. willis macgahee

15. brandon jacobs

16. rudi johnson

17. maroney

18. clinton prtis

19. justin fargas

20. cadillac williams

21. travis henry

22. michael turner

that is all i could come up with. this is just a preliminary list i have come up with so i can think about how to draft RBs this year. again if you think i have some one listed too low, too high, or not listed please make a list of your own or just tell me who you think will have a good year and actually produce #s worth drafting before the fifth round. honestly RB killed me last year and i had tom brady and welker. did not even make the playoffs. ran against 3 guys in a row that keep taking over the most points scored in a single game record. i am not joking that really happened. i would score the second most points in a weekand play against the guy who scored the most points. meanwhile other guys score 23 points and pull out a win and make it to the playoffs. rough year so i am trying to prepare.

You've been listening to the board mob mentality.Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

 

[switz]

overall last year was a rather rough year for FFRBs. there were a few success stories and a few of the failures were understandable. maroney being in the doghouse and overshadowed by brady's arm. the thing that bothered me was there were alot of injuries and the guys who did not get hurt like LT or Mcgahee just did not live up to expectations. so i am comprising a list of the what i think will be the best backs in 08. please feel free to reply with your own list.

1. westbrook

2. LT

3. willie parker

4. MJD

5. steven jackson

6. adrian peterson

7. marion barber

8. frank gore

9. joseph addai

10. ryan grant

11. deangelo williams

12. jamal lewis

13. larry johnson

14. willis macgahee

15. brandon jacobs

16. rudi johnson

17. maroney

18. clinton prtis

19. justin fargas

20. cadillac williams

21. travis henry

22. michael turner

that is all i could come up with. this is just a preliminary list i have come up with so i can think about how to draft RBs this year. again if you think i have some one listed too low, too high, or not listed please make a list of your own or just tell me who you think will have a good year and actually produce #s worth drafting before the fifth round. honestly RB killed me last year and i had tom brady and welker. did not even make the playoffs. ran against 3 guys in a row that keep taking over the most points scored in a single game record. i am not joking that really happened. i would score the second most points in a weekand play against the guy who scored the most points. meanwhile other guys score 23 points and pull out a win and make it to the playoffs. rough year so i am trying to prepare.

You've been listening to the board mob mentality.Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

 

[jurb26]

overall last year was a rather rough year for FFRBs. there were a few success stories and a few of the failures were understandable. maroney being in the doghouse and overshadowed by brady's arm. the thing that bothered me was there were alot of injuries and the guys who did not get hurt like LT or Mcgahee just did not live up to expectations. so i am comprising a list of the what i think will be the best backs in 08. please feel free to reply with your own list.

1. westbrook

2. LT

3. willie parker

4. MJD

5. steven jackson

6. adrian peterson

7. marion barber

8. frank gore

9. joseph addai

10. ryan grant

11. deangelo williams

12. jamal lewis

13. larry johnson

14. willis macgahee

15. brandon jacobs

16. rudi johnson

17. maroney

18. clinton prtis

19. justin fargas

20. cadillac williams

21. travis henry

22. michael turner

that is all i could come up with. this is just a preliminary list i have come up with so i can think about how to draft RBs this year. again if you think i have some one listed too low, too high, or not listed please make a list of your own or just tell me who you think will have a good year and actually produce #s worth drafting before the fifth round. honestly RB killed me last year and i had tom brady and welker. did not even make the playoffs. ran against 3 guys in a row that keep taking over the most points scored in a single game record. i am not joking that really happened. i would score the second most points in a weekand play against the guy who scored the most points. meanwhile other guys score 23 points and pull out a win and make it to the playoffs. rough year so i am trying to prepare.

You've been listening to the board mob mentality.Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

 

[switz]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

Exactly why he will likely never finish #1.

 

[jurb26]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

Exactly why he will likely never finish #1.

How could it possibly be his ceiling if he didn't even play all of the games? You can't have it both ways. 1st you were using the argument that the only reason Westy was in the running was because other guys got hurt. Then you try to say that him getting hurt is why he will never finish #1. Well, the getting hurt logic should then void your original argument. Those guys you claim would have been better than Westy should now be disqualified because of their injuries like you seem to want to disqualify Westy for his. Like I said, you can't have it both ways for the other guys just to prove a point against Westy.

 

[ratbast]

Your rankings:

1. westbrook-

2. LT-

3. willie parker-I can not see any justification of this ranking.

4. MJD

5. steven jackson

6. adrian peterson

7. marion barber

8. frank gore

9. joseph addai

10. ryan grant

11. deangelo williams

12. jamal lewis

13. larry johnson

14. willis macgahee

15. brandon jacobs

16. rudi johnson-i doubt it but whatever

17. maroney

18. clinton prtis

19. justin fargas-im a big doubter

20. cadillac williams-dude, gotta research more

21. travis henry

22. michael turner

No Brown I can understand because of injury but Bush should be here.

I don't agree with most of this ranking but I found I could only comment on a few, and I tried to find more. Remember that it doesnt just matter which guy you like better but also which pick you should take him. I find a ranking I trust and then warp it with my own mental idea of wisdom.

If you are fishing, well you got me you kidder.

 

[switz]

Westbrook #1? Never going to happen unless every other RB in the league gets injured.

MJD #4? Top-10 would not surprise me, but I see him more in the 11-15 range.

Barber #7? Extremely unlikely IMO, there is not a higher hyped player right now.

Addai #9? He's a top-5 at the lowest.

DWilli #11? He's not good enough first of all, his team is not good enough, and they will likely draft someone to start instead of him.

Maroney over Portis? Heck, Portis outside the top-10?

I really don't think you put much thought into this list.

Westbrook finished with 5 fewer points than LT (and in one less game). Without the infamous 1 yd line kneel down, he was essentially the #1 guy last year. That's a bold statement for the #2 2007 RB.

And last year nearly every RB in the NFL was injured, and he couldn't finish #1. It also happened to be nearly his best season ever, pretty much his ceiling.

Ummm, it was just pointed out that he was one of those injured RBs....

Exactly why he will likely never finish #1.

How could it possibly be his ceiling if he didn't even play all of the games? You can't have it both ways. 1st you were using the argument that the only reason Westy was in the running was because other guys got hurt. Then you try to say that him getting hurt is why he will never finish #1. Well, the getting hurt logic should then void your original argument. Those guys you claim would have been better than Westy should now be disqualified because of their injuries like you seem to want to disqualify Westy for his. Like I said, you can't have it both ways for the other guys just to prove a point against Westy.

No, you just don't get it...Westy NEVER finishes a full year healthy, so in order for him to be on somewhat of an even field at all, all the other RBs (or most of them at least) need to be injured. Last year they were, and he still didn't finish #1, despite missing fewer games than most of them. It's pretty simple.

 

[Pai Mei]

Maroney is a very interesting player for 2008. I can't crawl inside the heads of the Patriots' brass, but last year looked suspiciously like a year where the Patriots were intentionally playing for NFL passing records. If true, that means Maroney was underused. Of note, once the passing marks were well with range and later set, Maroney started having some pretty big games. This leads to the idea that Maroney is going to have much more of an impact this year.

I'm not sure where I'd rank Maroney, but I'd probably reach a little to grab him.

 

[FUBAR]

Maroney is a very interesting player for 2008. I can't crawl inside the heads of the Patriots' brass, but last year looked suspiciously like a year where the Patriots were intentionally playing for NFL passing records. If true, that means Maroney was underused. Of note, once the passing marks were well with range and later set, Maroney started having some pretty big games. This leads to the idea that Maroney is going to have much more of an impact this year.I'm not sure where I'd rank Maroney, but I'd probably reach a little to grab him.

yep, I just wonder how much of those big games was due to the defense surprised he even had the ball.

 

[whitewizard2]

i am sorry i have taken so long to reply i tried to last night but my computer froze up and things just became frustrating. so i will introduce myself, and explain a few things about my list. first off donnybrook was right i was looking for just this type of thing. some heated debate about who is better and just getting into discussions not solely based on last years numbers (it helps me prepare anyway). i am not new to FFB i have been with my dad for about 4-5 years managing a team so i know a good bit about everything. the problem arises when i have to draft since he did most of it and i have started to just recently get my own teams but with a shortage of funds actual competition is hard to find. i am a lions fan by the way.

ok now to talk about this little list i made. when i looked at ADP i see a back that did not see alot of big hard grind it out games for him. mainly cause his oline kept him from seeing defenders for 7 yards a time. then when he had to really develop plays and not just follow blocks until he juked out a safety he did not seem to do very well. that and the fact that year 2 in the NFL does not bode well for RBs look at last year whether it was injuries or other circumstances bush, MJD, and maroney did not perform nearly as well as expected.

as for lynch i just forgot his name and at the time did not feel like trying to find it. bush i just forgot about completely and honestly what has he done in the NFL to show he is worth the chosing so high. i think he has talent but i have not seen it translate to the NFL. turner has nothing down there to help him out. they might have a new QB, they might have a new LT. all we do know is that he has receivers that have trouble catching colds, and joe horn is getting older and with no one to throw to i highly question the offensive abililty of the falcons in general. so after hearing your opinions i am going to restructure my list a bit. please tell me your opinions of it i really enjoy reading everything everyone has posted.

#1. westbrook/ he may haev hit his ceiling last year but he did very well adn i think with a healthy mcnabb westbrook will get even more plays his way, cause when he scrambles effectively westbrook is normally not too far behind with a reception.

#2 LT/ with a healthy oline from the start he should be able to produce consistent #s all year

#3. willie parker/ they still have not found a consistent RZ threat it is FWP's chance to get a few carries in there and with a full season he should be better.

#4. steven jackson/ i am very concerned with his oline, if it stays healthy than he will be able to produce the #s we all expect if not then get ready for a repeat of last year

#5. marion barber/ dallas will probably draft felix jones and give barber alot of carries all while having a guy who can keep Ds off balance he should have a good year.

#6 AP/ second year a history of injuries and the question how long will that oline be able to give him clear sailing all the time, he should do very well i just think his explosions will be limited.

#7. MJD/ talyor's year was outshadowed by all the other stories last year, still fred is no spring chicken and i expect JAX to give him more carries so he will be ready to take over the lead.

#8 addai/ staying healthy is key for him as well but harrison's health will determine much of his success as well. addai should be fine but the colts are prime examples of pass first run second when it comes to the RZ.

#9 jamal lewis/ lewis was key in making anderson successful now they will share a symbiosis, with stallworth out there some focus should be taken off lewis but they will still have to establish him to succeed in any game they play next year.

#10. willis mcgahee/ if heap stays healthy they get a QB and the oline does not drop off too much he should have a pretty consistent good year.

#11. frank gore/ martz should open things up and not make gore theor only offensive weapon.

#12. larry johnson/ a maturing QB and receiver will help him out but they need new olinmen if they get long, johnson could be back on top, if not it could be a long season.

#13. ryan grant/ with favre gone the consistentcy of the passing game should drop off a bit and rogers will not have near the freedom favre did, it all adds up to him getting more carries.

#14. marshawn lynch/ hopefully he can get on a roll and get some successful games under his belt.

#15 deangelo williams/ i like him but apparently the panthers do not, if he gets at least 15 carries a game he should have a decent year i do not know if that will happen.

#16. reggie bush/ he is westbrook without the expereince, without the bulk, and very dependent on defenses that are unset so that he can run through chaos.

#17. clinton portis/ if zorn does not give up on the run, if betts does not steal his RZ carries at all, and if he stays healthy. then yeah he could have a very good year.

#18 brandon jacobs/ he should be pushed back to more of RBC role with more carries than when tiki was there but more RZ carries than last year he should be good.

#19. rudi johnson/ i am not so sure about him his team os rotting from the inside out and his success is questionable, but if he stays healthy than he should produce those reliable #s again.

#20. maroney/ without stallworth the pats will probably run more giving him the opportunity to succeed.

#21. cadillac williams/ not sure about his future he keeps getting injured and last year they managed without him. i think they could go to a RBC and not give caddy the chance to get hurt as much.

#22. justin fargas/ even if they get mcfadden fargas is still going to play a big role in their offense especially when he got a 1000 yards in almost no time, he should at least be a RZ target.

#23. travis henry/ injuries are a question and with the history of dever to go committee on everyone i would not put it past to see selvin young in the mix more next year.

#24. ronnie brown/ was very good behind a bad oline and got alot of good #s for a long time, but that can only last so long and if that line stays bad i do not expect to see the injury history.

thanks for your opinions i really do appreciate your ideas and this list is as much of a draft list as it is a prediction of who will do good next year. so please try not to base your opinion entirely on where they should get drafted but try to take into consideration the potential each back has. oh and it sounds a little silly but if someone could explain how bush is still valued so high that would be appreciated. i think he has good talent but i would not draft him until the third round. just me but a guy with speed and has to share carries ad has not produce great numbers just does not deserve alot of respect and consideration. i think he can develop but i just do not see it right now he is a little bit aways still. anyways thanks for your opinions i am anxious to hear what everyone has to say about my new list, this has been very helpful in collecting my thoughts, thanks.

 

[Chachi]

1. as for lynch i just forgot his name and at the time did not feel like trying to find it. 2.bush i just forgot about completely and honestly what has he done in the NFL to show he is worth the chosing so high. i think he has talent but i have not seen it translate to the NFL. 3. turner has nothing down there to help him out. they might have a new QB, they might have a new LT. all we do know is that he has receivers that have trouble catching colds, and joe horn is getting older and with no one to throw to i highly question the offensive abililty of the falcons in general. so after hearing your opinions i am going to restructure my list a bit. please tell me your opinions of it i really enjoy reading everything everyone has posted.

1. Sorry but I think this makes your post worthless. How much can you know about fantasy football if you don't even know the name Marshawn Lynch. 2. Bush was RB #10 in 2006, RB #24 in 2007 (Missed last 4 games) in standard scoring, In PPR #9 in 2006, #12 in 2007 (Missed 4 games). Not sure why you would leave this guy off your top 24 list. I guess you think he hasn't lived up to the hype but it doesn't excuse leaving him off the list when I just showed you his rankings in his first two seasons. 3. Ever heard of Roddy White? I'm not sure what year you're currently thinking about, Joe Horn?

 

[Routilla]

And just why in the hell is Tater Bell not on that list?

 

[Couch Potato]

1. as for lynch i just forgot his name and at the time did not feel like trying to find it. 2.bush i just forgot about completely and honestly what has he done in the NFL to show he is worth the chosing so high. i think he has talent but i have not seen it translate to the NFL. 3. turner has nothing down there to help him out. they might have a new QB, they might have a new LT. all we do know is that he has receivers that have trouble catching colds, and joe horn is getting older and with no one to throw to i highly question the offensive abililty of the falcons in general. so after hearing your opinions i am going to restructure my list a bit. please tell me your opinions of it i really enjoy reading everything everyone has posted.

1. Sorry but I think this makes your post worthless. How much can you know about fantasy football if you don't even know the name Marshawn Lynch. 2. Bush was RB #10 in 2006, RB #24 in 2007 (Missed last 4 games) in standard scoring, In PPR #9 in 2006, #12 in 2007 (Missed 4 games). Not sure why you would leave this guy off your top 24 list. I guess you think he hasn't lived up to the hype but it doesn't excuse leaving him off the list when I just showed you his rankings in his first two seasons. 3. Ever heard of Roddy White? I'm not sure what year you're currently thinking about, Joe Horn?

At first I thought this was a regular poster, phishing with a newly created alias, but now I know it's a youngster with a bit of learning to do. Some patience and courtesy toward a kid wanting to grow is probably the way to go here.

 

[trader jake]

At first I thought this was a regular poster, phishing with a newly created alias, but now I know it's a youngster with a bit of learning to do. Some patience and courtesy toward a kid wanting to grow is probably the way to go here.

I think you had it correct the first time CP. :swimsaway:

 

[Chachi]

Apologies to whitewizard2, I re-read your post, I didn't realize you were a kid, missed the part about playing FF with your dad.

 

[Couch Potato]

Apologies to whitewizard2, I re-read your post, I didn't realize you were a kid, missed the part about playing FF with your dad.

You're a good guy, Chachi. And if Trader Jake is right and we're being scammed, oh well. I'd rather believe the OP is who he says he is than believe he's the kind of loser who'd lie about being a youngster just to play games with the board.To whitewizard2: please go into the news archives or Google and research Carnell Williams' injury and 2008 prognosis for recovery from his patellar tear. This is serious stuff, and his availability for 2008 is very uncertain. He could end up on the PUP list for a half-season, he could miss the whole season, this could even end his career. To rank him in the top 22 still, on your second pass at these rankings, shows that you need to get a better understanding of his situation. E Graham performed very well in his absence last year too, and there's no guarantee Williams will get his old job back even when healthy. Williams SHOULD NOT be on any top 22 RB list.

 

[H.K.]

i am sorry i have taken so long to reply i tried to last night but my computer froze up and things just became frustrating. so i will introduce myself, and explain a few things about my list. first off donnybrook was right i was looking for just this type of thing. some heated debate about who is better and just getting into discussions not solely based on last years numbers (it helps me prepare anyway). i am not new to FFB i have been with my dad for about 4-5 years managing a team so i know a good bit about everything. the problem arises when i have to draft since he did most of it and i have started to just recently get my own teams but with a shortage of funds actual competition is hard to find. i am a lions fan by the way.

ok now to talk about this little list i made. when i looked at ADP i see a back that did not see alot of big hard grind it out games for him. mainly cause his oline kept him from seeing defenders for 7 yards a time. then when he had to really develop plays and not just follow blocks until he juked out a safety he did not seem to do very well. that and the fact that year 2 in the NFL does not bode well for RBs look at last year whether it was injuries or other circumstances bush, MJD, and maroney did not perform nearly as well as expected.

as for lynch i just forgot his name and at the time did not feel like trying to find it. bush i just forgot about completely and honestly what has he done in the NFL to show he is worth the chosing so high. i think he has talent but i have not seen it translate to the NFL. turner has nothing down there to help him out. they might have a new QB, they might have a new LT. all we do know is that he has receivers that have trouble catching colds, and joe horn is getting older and with no one to throw to i highly question the offensive abililty of the falcons in general. so after hearing your opinions i am going to restructure my list a bit. please tell me your opinions of it i really enjoy reading everything everyone has posted.

#1. westbrook/ he may haev hit his ceiling last year but he did very well adn i think with a healthy mcnabb westbrook will get even more plays his way, cause when he scrambles effectively westbrook is normally not too far behind with a reception.

#2 LT/ with a healthy oline from the start he should be able to produce consistent #s all year

#3. willie parker/ they still have not found a consistent RZ threat it is FWP's chance to get a few carries in there and with a full season he should be better.

#4. steven jackson/ i am very concerned with his oline, if it stays healthy than he will be able to produce the #s we all expect if not then get ready for a repeat of last year

#5. marion barber/ dallas will probably draft felix jones and give barber alot of carries all while having a guy who can keep Ds off balance he should have a good year.

#6 AP/ second year a history of injuries and the question how long will that oline be able to give him clear sailing all the time, he should do very well i just think his explosions will be limited.

#7. MJD/ talyor's year was outshadowed by all the other stories last year, still fred is no spring chicken and i expect JAX to give him more carries so he will be ready to take over the lead.

#8 addai/ staying healthy is key for him as well but harrison's health will determine much of his success as well. addai should be fine but the colts are prime examples of pass first run second when it comes to the RZ.

#9 jamal lewis/ lewis was key in making anderson successful now they will share a symbiosis, with stallworth out there some focus should be taken off lewis but they will still have to establish him to succeed in any game they play next year.

#10. willis mcgahee/ if heap stays healthy they get a QB and the oline does not drop off too much he should have a pretty consistent good year.

#11. frank gore/ martz should open things up and not make gore theor only offensive weapon.

#12. larry johnson/ a maturing QB and receiver will help him out but they need new olinmen if they get long, johnson could be back on top, if not it could be a long season.

#13. ryan grant/ with favre gone the consistentcy of the passing game should drop off a bit and rogers will not have near the freedom favre did, it all adds up to him getting more carries.

#14. marshawn lynch/ hopefully he can get on a roll and get some successful games under his belt.

#15 deangelo williams/ i like him but apparently the panthers do not, if he gets at least 15 carries a game he should have a decent year i do not know if that will happen.

#16. reggie bush/ he is westbrook without the expereince, without the bulk, and very dependent on defenses that are unset so that he can run through chaos.

#17. clinton portis/ if zorn does not give up on the run, if betts does not steal his RZ carries at all, and if he stays healthy. then yeah he could have a very good year.

#18 brandon jacobs/ he should be pushed back to more of RBC role with more carries than when tiki was there but more RZ carries than last year he should be good.

#19. rudi johnson/ i am not so sure about him his team os rotting from the inside out and his success is questionable, but if he stays healthy than he should produce those reliable #s again.

#20. maroney/ without stallworth the pats will probably run more giving him the opportunity to succeed.

#21. cadillac williams/ not sure about his future he keeps getting injured and last year they managed without him. i think they could go to a RBC and not give caddy the chance to get hurt as much.

#22. justin fargas/ even if they get mcfadden fargas is still going to play a big role in their offense especially when he got a 1000 yards in almost no time, he should at least be a RZ target.

#23. travis henry/ injuries are a question and with the history of dever to go committee on everyone i would not put it past to see selvin young in the mix more next year.

#24. ronnie brown/ was very good behind a bad oline and got alot of good #s for a long time, but that can only last so long and if that line stays bad i do not expect to see the injury history.

thanks for your opinions i really do appreciate your ideas and this list is as much of a draft list as it is a prediction of who will do good next year. so please try not to base your opinion entirely on where they should get drafted but try to take into consideration the potential each back has. oh and it sounds a little silly but if someone could explain how bush is still valued so high that would be appreciated. i think he has good talent but i would not draft him until the third round. just me but a guy with speed and has to share carries ad has not produce great numbers just does not deserve alot of respect and consideration. i think he can develop but i just do not see it right now he is a little bit aways still. anyways thanks for your opinions i am anxious to hear what everyone has to say about my new list, this has been very helpful in collecting my thoughts, thanks.

What is your scoring system? I scanned through this thread didn't see it, of course I may have missed it. It's tough to evaluate lists like these without knowing how players get points.

 

[trogg78]

Your rankings suck, and you suck. Go back to Canada!

 

[Couch Potato]

Your rankings suck, and you suck. Go back to Canada!

Have a great season guy.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Your rankings suck, and you suck. Go back to Canada!

This is how you earn a board vacation. MW