Top Rookie RB Opportunity (1 Viewer)

[zdaddy]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity.

How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

 

[ClownDogs]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

With LT aging, sproles not believed to be an everydown back and Westy injury prone with absolutely no backup, not as bad as you think.

 

[Ghost of Bill Walsh]

I think any back that goes in the 1st rd. regardless of where he goes is gonna get opportunities. Naturally if any go to teams with an established back they're a better dynasty value than redraft. If San Diego takes a back I'd say that players chances of producing good numbers drops significantly, but the back that goes to Philly will certainly get plenty of chances to play. We're just gonna have to wait and see where these guys go as to how it'll affect their draft status in Dynasty and redraft.

 

[fruity pebbles]

wouldnt be worried about a couple 30 year old RBs standing in the way in a dynasty

 

[vikingsguy22]

Top situations:

1. Arizona

2. Seattle (most likely in the early 2nd)

3. Cleveland

4. Denver (although I doubt they'd take a back early)

 

[identikit]

I think the most recent rookie RBs who made immediate impact have spoiled us.

Though I believe that the RB position can transition quickly, oftentimes it will take a while for an RB to make their mark.

The Steven Jackson/Kevin Jones choice from a few years ago comes to mind.

 

[zdaddy]

wouldnt be worried about a couple 30 year old RBs standing in the way in a dynasty

Was talking first year chances...

 

[identikit]

wouldnt be worried about a couple 30 year old RBs standing in the way in a dynasty

Was talking first year chances...

Good to know...Helps to know the time frame you're asking about at the start though.

 

[zdaddy]

wouldnt be worried about a couple 30 year old RBs standing in the way in a dynasty

Was talking first year chances...

Good to know...Helps to know the time frame you're asking about at the start though.

Really? Wow...sorry if this wasn't enough info...

With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year

Why do folks always have to turn threads into this type of deal?

 

[identikit]

wouldnt be worried about a couple 30 year old RBs standing in the way in a dynasty

Was talking first year chances...

Good to know...Helps to know the time frame you're asking about at the start though.

Really? Wow...sorry if this wasn't enough info...

With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year

Why do folks always have to turn threads into this type of deal?

I stand corrected.The sentence structure had me confused there.

 

[identikit]

Top situations:1. Arizona2. Seattle (most likely in the early 2nd)3. Cleveland4. Denver (although I doubt they'd take a back early)

Agree with the top 3.

 

[crnerblitz]

I think that focusing on first year opportunity can do your dynasty team a disservice. As Identikit brought up, Steven Jackson was passed over by many knowledgeable and informed Owners for Kevin Jones AND Julius Jones. Take the talant over situation or caveat emptor.

Redraft is simple. Look for the RB with no real competition in the backfield and a good defense. The Defense is key. It will allow the team to feed the rook lots of carries.

 

[zdaddy]

I think that focusing on first year opportunity can do your dynasty team a disservice. As Identikit brought up, Steven Jackson was passed over by many knowledgeable and informed Owners for Kevin Jones AND Julius Jones. Take the talant over situation or caveat emptor. Redraft is simple. Look for the RB with no real competition in the backfield and a good defense. The Defense is key. It will allow the team to feed the rook lots of carries.

If you think your time is now, it may be a differant thing. If you are talking about a contract league, it may be differant. Most of the time I personally am looking long term in dyansty. There are teams how ever that look to the "now" in every league. How does the dynamic of this year's draft shake up rookie drafts...(IE the 3rd back taken gets the bestt opportunity THIS year)

 

[Crippler]

Top situations:1. Arizona2. Seattle (most likely in the early 2nd)3. Cleveland4. Denver (although I doubt they'd take a back early)

This list is fine. I still also likeJets (Thomas jones is no spring chicken and in contract squabble)Bucs(Is Ward or Graham really the answer)Bengals(Come on now. Benson is only RB on roster really)Packers(Ryan Grant is nothing special and I liked Jackson but he could not put his mark down last year)Dolphins(Ronnie Brown seems to always get hurt and has not been special and Ricky is near done)Only teams that I cant see drafting a RB in 1st 3 roundsVikings. ADP and Taylor is more than enoughCowboys. Already have big RB controversy with Barber, Choice and JonesChargers. No 2nd round pick and lots of money tied up at RB with LT and Sproles. Hester will make a fine 3rdRaiders. They got 3 guys and spent a very high pick last yearFalcons. Spent lots of Turner and also have NorwoodPanthers. maybe top 1-2 punch in the league

 

[babydemon90]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

I can't see Philly taking a back in the 1st round. 3rd round - maybe.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Not much different than last year really... McFadden landed in a crowded situation, Mendenhall stuck behind Parker if he had stayed healthy, Stewart forced to share carries with DeAngelo. Forte and Slaton had the best opportunities... but they were not rated by many as top backs in the draft.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

Personally I doubt San Diego takes a RB in round 1. They have LT, Sproles and Hester as depth - perhaps they add one in a later round.However I think in rookie drafts you take your highest rated player despite the situation. Situations change often, talent rarely changes.

 

[omahabrad]

Good Stuff, Guys.

I didn't even think about all the money that San Diego had tied up in RB. That means Wells or Moreno should be there for Ariz. now there is best of both worlds talent and opportunity.

 

[zdaddy]

Not much different than last year really... McFadden landed in a crowded situation, Mendenhall stuck behind Parker if he had stayed healthy, Stewart forced to share carries with DeAngelo. Forte and Slaton had the best opportunities... but they were not rated by many as top backs in the draft.

Right, so with that history, do people draft differently this year?

 

[inzanitee]

Not much different than last year really... McFadden landed in a crowded situation, Mendenhall stuck behind Parker if he had stayed healthy, Stewart forced to share carries with DeAngelo. Forte and Slaton had the best opportunities... but they were not rated by many as top backs in the draft.

Right, so with that history, do people draft differently this year?

Maybe, but it's a vastly different draft than last year. This year there isn't nearly as much top tier talent at RB. There are 3 or 4 guys and then a bunch of whatever type guys who could pan out but are all flawed (even the top 3 have flaws, none grade out as "can't miss" type RBs).

 

[super sleeper]

I think that focusing on first year opportunity can do your dynasty team a disservice. As Identikit brought up, Steven Jackson was passed over by many knowledgeable and informed Owners for Kevin Jones AND Julius Jones. Take the talant over situation or caveat emptor. Redraft is simple. Look for the RB with no real competition in the backfield and a good defense. The Defense is key. It will allow the team to feed the rook lots of carries.

I mostly agree.I rank rookies based on relative talent plus situation. A guy similarly talented with a better situation (Forte over Mendenhall) might be the way to go one year, while pure talent might be the way to go another year (Adrian Peterson over anyone despite situation). I don't see anyone heads and shoulders above anyone at the top of the draft this year. Brown, McCoy, Wells, Moreno can all be my #1 depending on the situation. But if, say Peerman goes to Arizona in the 3rd, I'm not drafting him over Moreno because the Eagles drafted Moreno.

 

[JAA]

Keep your eye on the Jax RB situation

 

[twr]

Keep your eye on the Jax RB situation

wells to jacksonville??? what would that do to mjd's value

 

[jwb]

Keep your eye on the Jax RB situation

wells to jacksonville??? what would that do to mjd's value

Maybe the same that Stewart's did for DWill's? Copycat league - I don't expect Jax to stick with just MJD.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Keep your eye on the Jax RB situation

wells to jacksonville??? what would that do to mjd's value

Maybe the same that Stewart's did for DWill's? Copycat league - I don't expect Jax to stick with just MJD.

Jax won't be taking a RB in the 1st, they have too many more pressing needs.I don't think the RBs available in the 2nd and later are any real threat to MJD's touches.~~~~~As far as San Diego is concerned, they could use depth and a future guy. If they go with what they currently have and LT gets hurt, they are in bad shape. Sproles is not a feature back and Hester is not a guy to rely on. I could see San Diego taking their future RB on day one. The money isn't a big thing, mid-1sts don't get big bucks.

 

[twr]

Keep your eye on the Jax RB situation

wells to jacksonville??? what would that do to mjd's value

Maybe the same that Stewart's did for DWill's? Copycat league - I don't expect Jax to stick with just MJD.

Jax won't be taking a RB in the 1st, they have too many more pressing needs.I don't think the RBs available in the 2nd and later are any real threat to MJD's touches.~~~~~As far as San Diego is concerned, they could use depth and a future guy. If they go with what they currently have and LT gets hurt, they are in bad shape. Sproles is not a feature back and Hester is not a guy to rely on. I could see San Diego taking their future RB on day one. The money isn't a big thing, mid-1sts don't get big bucks.

like the panthers last year had more pressing needs? the steelers? If a nfl team has a player ranked high on their board, and hes still there, they will choose him.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Jax won't be taking a RB in the 1st, they have too many more pressing needs.I don't think the RBs available in the 2nd and later are any real threat to MJD's touches.

I think one of the top RBs going to Jacksonville for their 2nd pick is more likely than you think. None of the RBs are projected to go particularly high this year, and many of the mocks have a guy like Wells slipping into the early second round. There have been a plethora of trades the last few years that involved people trading from the early 2nd round either up earlier in the 2nd round or to the end of the 1st round, and Jacksonville has shown a willingness to move up for guys they like even if others don't like them as much (Harvey last year).

 

[ClownDogs]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

I can't see Philly taking a back in the 1st round. 3rd round - maybe.

Wouldn't mind hearing your reason behind this statement? A 30 year old beat up RB who misses time every year, only backup is gone off to Den and L.Booker isn't the answer at all.

 

[5Rings]

I expect the 49ers to take a RB in the draft, and maybe as high as rd 2 (unlikely unless huge value like Wells). Right now Thomas Clayton, who has been on the TS, is the only back behind Gore.

With the type of attack Raye/Singletary want to implement, there should be plenty of carries for a good rookie.

 

[cstu]

Keep your eye on the Jax RB situation

wells to jacksonville??? what would that do to mjd's value

Maybe the same that Stewart's did for DWill's? Copycat league - I don't expect Jax to stick with just MJD.

Jax won't be taking a RB in the 1st, they have too many more pressing needs.I don't think the RBs available in the 2nd and later are any real threat to MJD's touches.

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As far as San Diego is concerned, they could use depth and a future guy. If they go with what they currently have and LT gets hurt, they are in bad shape. Sproles is not a feature back and Hester is not a guy to rely on. I could see San Diego taking their future RB on day one. The money isn't a big thing, mid-1sts don't get big bucks.

Sproles filled in fine for LT and they didn't franchise him just to return kicks. They also won't take a RB in the first because they need help on defense and if Maualuga is there he's a no-brainer. They don't have a 2nd so the earliest they could take a RB is in the 3rd.

 

[cstu]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

I can't see Philly taking a back in the 1st round. 3rd round - maybe.

Wouldn't mind hearing your reason behind this statement? A 30 year old beat up RB who misses time every year, only backup is gone off to Den and L.Booker isn't the answer at all.

Teams can get RB's every year. The only way I see the Eagles taking a RB in the 1st if some huge value like Moreno or Wells were available at #28. That said, they do have to draft a RB but I think it will be in the 2nd or 3rd.

 

[babydemon90]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

I can't see Philly taking a back in the 1st round. 3rd round - maybe.

Wouldn't mind hearing your reason behind this statement? A 30 year old beat up RB who misses time every year, only backup is gone off to Den and L.Booker isn't the answer at all.

It's not Reid's style. I expect them to take a RB, certainly, but in the 3rd round at the earliest. MAYBE in the 2nd...but in the 1st, not a chance.

 

[ClownDogs]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

I can't see Philly taking a back in the 1st round. 3rd round - maybe.

Wouldn't mind hearing your reason behind this statement? A 30 year old beat up RB who misses time every year, only backup is gone off to Den and L.Booker isn't the answer at all.

It's not Reid's style. I expect them to take a RB, certainly, but in the 3rd round at the earliest. MAYBE in the 2nd...but in the 1st, not a chance.

If Wells or Moreno are at 28 and they don't take them, Reid needs to go, just dumb imo.

 

[cstu]

I have been looking at a lot of mocks, most have San Diego taking the 1st running back of the board and Philly taking the 2nd. With that scenario the top two backs would be limited as far as opportunity goes in their first year. Mockers have had Arizona taking a running back in this darft. The RB that goes to Arizona would be the 3rd RB off the board (McCoy or Brown) and would have the most opportunity. How would this scenario shake up the rookie draft?

I can't see Philly taking a back in the 1st round. 3rd round - maybe.

Wouldn't mind hearing your reason behind this statement? A 30 year old beat up RB who misses time every year, only backup is gone off to Den and L.Booker isn't the answer at all.

It's not Reid's style. I expect them to take a RB, certainly, but in the 3rd round at the earliest. MAYBE in the 2nd...but in the 1st, not a chance.

If Wells or Moreno are at 28 and they don't take them, Reid needs to go, just dumb imo.

There are questions about both of them so if they didn't pass on either if they were there then I assume it would be for good reason.