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Feel free to comment with your own...here's my list(s):Top Ten Reasons the Broncos beat the Patriots=============================================10. The Patriots had their "swagger" back9. Belichick is a genius8. Denver is 29th in the league vs. the pass7. Only the Browns had fewer sacks than the Broncos this year6. Tom Brady doesn't lose in the playoffs5. The Patriots never lose to the same team twice in the same season4. The Patriots started 5 players that didn't play Denver earlier this year3. Brady vs. Plummer? I mean JAKE PLUMMER?2. 90% of "experts" picked the Patriots to win1. Shanahan can't win a playoff game without Elway :eek: OK, THE REAL REASONS:======================5. It takes a team to win and the Broncos have a well-balanced team!4. Shanahan owns Belichick like nobody else in the league (4-1 since '01)3. THE FANS AT INVESCO!!!!2. The Broncos offense scored more TDs than FGs and the Broncos D rocks!!!1. Forget sacks - Brady was on his ### all game!!!!!Honorable Mention: Sauerbran (the Broncos punter) can tackle!!!!GO BRONCOS!!!!! :D

 
Feel free to comment with your own...here's my list(s):

Top Ten Reasons the Broncos beat the Patriots

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10. The Patriots had their "swagger" back

9. Belichick is a genius

8. Denver is 29th in the league vs. the pass

7. Only the Browns had fewer sacks than the Broncos this year

6. Tom Brady doesn't lose in the playoffs

5. The Patriots never lose to the same team twice in the same season

4. The Patriots started 5 players that didn't play Denver earlier this year

3. Brady vs. Plummer? I mean JAKE PLUMMER?

2. 90% of "experts" picked the Patriots to win

1. Shanahan can't win a playoff game without Elway :eek:

OK, THE REAL REASONS:

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5. It takes a team to win and the Broncos have a well-balanced team!

4. Shanahan owns Belichick like nobody else in the league (4-1 since '01)

3. THE FANS AT INVESCO!!!!

2. The Broncos offense scored more TDs than FGs and the Broncos D rocks!!!

1. Forget sacks - Brady was on his ### all game!!!!!

Honorable Mention: Sauerbran (the Broncos punter) can tackle!!!!

GO BRONCOS!!!!! :D
6. Special teams. Enough said.
 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
A bad performence does not equal a choke. A choke is when a player crumbles under pressure. Don't :fishing: and say that is what happened. The Broncos D just simply had his number.
 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
What game were you watching? Brady as usual was the best QB on the field. He moved the Patriots up and down the field. The difference was TURNOVERS and the Bronco's deserved to win. That's a :goodposting:

 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
A bad performence does not equal a choke. A choke is when a player crumbles under pressure. Don't :fishing: and say that is what happened. The Broncos D just simply had his number.
I disagree. I think people here are frankly hypersensitive to talk of QBs choking and that you would all be more than willing to call a kicker who did as many bad things as Brady did a choke artist. Tom Brady threw two interceptions that were his fault. They weren't tips -- they were poor choices on his part. One of them resulted in a likely 14 point swing and came just when the Patriots were on the verge of asserting themselves on a Broncos team that hadn't done enough to win as of halftime. It was the play that changed the course of the game more than any other. The second ended any hope the team had remaining as Tom threw into triple coverage.

That is absolutely, positively choking in my book.

 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
Negative. Broncos defense outplayed Brady and the Pats offense.
It's not as though those two are mutually exclusive. Are you trying to tell me that the only time a player can possibly choke is when the team that win doesn't deserve to win?
 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
A bad performence does not equal a choke. A choke is when a player crumbles under pressure. Don't :fishing: and say that is what happened. The Broncos D just simply had his number.
I disagree. I think people here are frankly hypersensitive to talk of QBs choking and that you would all be more than willing to call a kicker who did as many bad things as Brady did a choke artist. Tom Brady threw two interceptions that were his fault. They weren't tips -- they were poor choices on his part. One of them resulted in a likely 14 point swing and came just when the Patriots were on the verge of asserting themselves on a Broncos team that hadn't done enough to win as of halftime. It was the play that changed the course of the game more than any other. The second ended any hope the team had remaining as Tom threw into triple coverage.

That is absolutely, positively choking in my book.
I'll give you the first. Bad throw. Choke play.The second one? Are you kidding?

 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
What game were you watching? Brady as usual was the best QB on the field.
Oh, I'm sorry -- I didn't realize that the NFL had turned football into a game where yardage determined who wins and loses. My apologies. :no:
He moved the Patriots up and down the field. The difference was TURNOVERS and the Bronco's deserved to win.
You mean like the interception he threw that resulted in what was very likely a 14 point swing? You mean like the interception he threw into triple coverage that ended the hopes of his team?
 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
A bad performence does not equal a choke. A choke is when a player crumbles under pressure. Don't :fishing: and say that is what happened. The Broncos D just simply had his number.
I disagree. I think people here are frankly hypersensitive to talk of QBs choking and that you would all be more than willing to call a kicker who did as many bad things as Brady did a choke artist. Tom Brady threw two interceptions that were his fault. They weren't tips -- they were poor choices on his part. One of them resulted in a likely 14 point swing and came just when the Patriots were on the verge of asserting themselves on a Broncos team that hadn't done enough to win as of halftime. It was the play that changed the course of the game more than any other. The second ended any hope the team had remaining as Tom threw into triple coverage.

That is absolutely, positively choking in my book.
Brady did NOT choke. He played very well - the last pick was a desparation toss - IMHO, that shouldn't count against him. The first one, well, what can I say...there's a reason he is the CHAMP!!
 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
Negative. Broncos defense outplayed Brady and the Pats offense.
It's not as though those two are mutually exclusive. Are you trying to tell me that the only time a player can possibly choke is when the team that win doesn't deserve to win?
No, I'm telling you that the Denver D puts more pressure on the QB and has a better pass D than they are given credit for. Also, the interceptrions weren't just bad decisions. The Broncos pass D showed up.
 
Brady was definitely off his game tonight. He short armed a couple of screen passes, and overthrew wide open players. I don't believe much in the "choking" theory, but Brady certainly made uncharacteristic mistakes tonight in pressure situations.

 
I think it's funny that: 20 for 36 for 341 yards is considered a bad game. He threw ONE very bad pass. And yes, it was at a critical time.Tom Brady was FAR from the only reason why the Pats lost the game.

 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight? No.However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking. Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.

 
I think it's funny that: 20 for 36 for 341 yards is considered a bad game. He threw ONE very bad pass. And yes, it was at a critical time.
That's the nature of the game. He could have been 34 for 36 for 777 yards for all I care. His negative accomplishments in a game that was absolutely winnable for his team so far outweigh his positive ones that he played a bad game.
Tom Brady was FAR from the only reason why the Pats lost the game.
He certainly wasn't the only reason they lost the game, but he was the biggest single reason.
 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight? No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking. Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
:goodposting:
 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight? No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking. Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
I agree with this 100 percent.
 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
A bad performence does not equal a choke. A choke is when a player crumbles under pressure. Don't :fishing: and say that is what happened. The Broncos D just simply had his number.
I disagree. I think people here are frankly hypersensitive to talk of QBs choking and that you would all be more than willing to call a kicker who did as many bad things as Brady did a choke artist. Tom Brady threw two interceptions that were his fault. They weren't tips -- they were poor choices on his part. One of them resulted in a likely 14 point swing and came just when the Patriots were on the verge of asserting themselves on a Broncos team that hadn't done enough to win as of halftime. It was the play that changed the course of the game more than any other. The second ended any hope the team had remaining as Tom threw into triple coverage.

That is absolutely, positively choking in my book.
What do you call this book, “The Big Book of Choke Artists”, because it must include almost every QB that has ever played?
 
What do you call this book, “The Big Book of Choke Artists”, because it must include almost every QB that has ever played?
I think that's only right. I find it impossible for a QB to have been in the league very long before he chokes. Again, look at the standard for kickers. I think it's actually the right standard, not this hypersensitive standard that is being thrown about. To play in the NFL means to eventually choke in the NFL.
 
I can't believe people think Brady choked. You've got to be kidding me. A bad game is not necessarily "choking". A choke job is when you're the favorite by a lot , you've been playing well all season, and then suddenly you collapse under the pressure. The Pats were favored because they just have an amazing track record over the past few years -- not because they dominated this season. This year they were not as good but Brady kept them afloat. I think Brady has proven that he doesn't choke. He and the Pats just didn't have a great game and Denver played really well.

 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight? No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking. Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
I agree with this 100 percent.
Exactly :goodposting:
 
The Pats were favored because they just have an amazing track record over the past few years -- not because they dominated this season.
Uh.... The Broncos were favored. They covered the spread pretty handily too!
 
The Pats were favored because they just have an amazing track record over the past few years -- not because they dominated this season.
Uh.... The Broncos were favored. They covered the spread pretty handily too!
favored by Vegas, but if you look at all the analysts everyone outside of CBS.sportsline and the very biased Woody Paige and Shanon Sharpe had the Pats winning.
 
The Pats were favored because they just have an amazing track record over the past few years -- not because they dominated this season.
Uh.... The Broncos were favored. They covered the spread pretty handily too!
favored by Vegas, but if you look at all the analysts everyone outside of CBS.sportsline and the very biased Woody Paige and Shanon Sharpe had the Pats winning.
I'll side with Vegas every day of the week, and 1 million times on Sunday. The "pundits" have their ego on the line, and that will only last for about 30 minutes or until the American public forgets what they said with their nanosecond attention span. Those guys in Vegas have lots more on the line. They know what they're doing.
 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight? No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking. Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
If Manning puts up almost 350 yards and a TD vs. 2 INTs, I won't call it a choke. If he puts up 49 TDs in a season, then leads his team to three points in a playoff game, I will call it a choke. Same goes for his 4 INT game. Those games were standard deviations worse than Manning's regular season games. Tonight's game was above averaged yardage-wise, and slightly below average in TDs and INTs. Manning's playoff failures aren't even in the same ballpark as the game Brady had tonight. I don't know what's so complicated about this.

 
Tom. Brady. Choked.
What game were you watching? Brady as usual was the best QB on the field.
Oh, I'm sorry -- I didn't realize that the NFL had turned football into a game where yardage determined who wins and loses. My apologies. :no:
He moved the Patriots up and down the field. The difference was TURNOVERS and the Bronco's deserved to win.
You mean like the interception he threw that resulted in what was very likely a 14 point swing? You mean like the interception he threw into triple coverage that ended the hopes of his team?
You should apologize ..... You don't have a clue about what you're talking about! :yawn:
 
If Manning puts up almost 350 yards and a TD vs. 2 INTs, I won't call it a choke. If he puts up 49 TDs in a season, then leads his team to three points in a playoff game, I will call it a choke. Same goes for his 4 INT game. Those games were standard deviations worse than Manning's regular season games.
Really? Okay, what was the standard deviation (a phrase you and I probably both understand, but some do not, more than likely) for games Manning played in games in the snow? Did the Colts entire team choke or was Manning the only one who choked in those games?

Tonight's game was above averaged yardage-wise, and slightly below average in TDs and INTs.
So, are you saying Brady had an average game for him tonight (assuming above average in one area + slightly below average in another = average)?
 
You should apologize ..... You don't have a clue about what you're talking about! :yawn:
You should learn how to make an effective argument instead of launching personal attacks when somebody has a different opinion than you do.I'll be holding my breath.

 
You want the real reason?How else do you guys think Brady won all those games? We made a deal. He got his slice of glory. I get to knock the dude off the top of the mountain for my own entertainment purposes. Everyone's happy.Eventually Manning and I will come to an agreement too. Until then... What? You have a better explanation why he hasn't won a title yet?

 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight?  No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking.  Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
If Manning puts up almost 350 yards and a TD vs. 2 INTs, I won't call it a choke. If he puts up 49 TDs in a season, then leads his team to three points in a playoff game, I will call it a choke. Same goes for his 4 INT game. Those games were standard deviations worse than Manning's regular season games. Tonight's game was above averaged yardage-wise, and slightly below average in TDs and INTs. Manning's playoff failures aren't even in the same ballpark as the game Brady had tonight. I don't know what's so complicated about this.
I hope you're joking. Brady was way off tonight. He is normaly an elite QB, but was less than average tonight.He missed a couple easy screen passes on 3rd down (by quite a bit) and a deeper 20 yarder that may have resulted in a TD. This is besides the two INT's. The yardage looks good, but Brady was definitely off his game tonight.

If you want to call it a bad game and not a "choke", that's fine with me, as long as you hold Manning to the same light.

 
Hey Bronco fans, I don't think you are giving your team enough credit. Your comments should be centered around the tenacious "D" that forced turnovers and was in Brady's face all night. To come out and argue that you won because Brady choked is wrong. He had an off game due to the Broncos constant pressuring. Hats off to the Broncos and Shanahan for scheming and exploiting a weakness. Defense wins games in the post season and that was a good D last night.Good luck next week. If it's vs Indy I think you'll have your hands full due to the no huddle offense they run. Don't know why the Pats didn't do that more. If it's vs Pittsburgh you should roll over them.

 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight?  No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking.  Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
The difference between Brady and Peyton is Brady has led and won 3 superbowls. The reason we say Peyton chokes is he hasn't been able to win in the playoffs vs the Pats. Not that he's a bad player. He just can't get it done. Until he wins a Superbowl, people, and not just Pats fans, will say he chokes in the playoffs. However I think that this is his year. Here is one Pat's fan who'll be rooting for him for the rest of the playoffs.
 
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Brady was definitely off his game tonight. He short armed a couple of screen passes, and overthrew wide open players. I don't believe much in the "choking" theory, but Brady certainly made uncharacteristic mistakes tonight in pressure situations.
Isn't that the definition of "choking"?
 
Getting back to the orginal topic...The refs gave it to the Broncos. If the Colts can get past the Pats, they'll hang a half century on the Broncos.

 
Getting back to the orginal topic...The refs gave it to the Broncos.

If the Colts can get past the Pats, they'll hang a half century on the Broncos.
:confused: If you meant the Steelers, don't worry. They won't!

 
Thank you Broncos for making football watchable again. Great run by the Pats, but their fans were reaching a level of unbearableness usually reserved for SAWX fans!I said from day one that the Broncos were a team the Pats did not want to face (and laughed my butt off when Pats homers were saying "we shouldn't have a problem going through Denver to get to Indy"). Denver was the most underrated, overlooked 13-3 team that I have ever seen in the playoffs. Pats fans also seem to forget that with all of their successes over the past five years that Brady/Belichick has one victory over Denver: a game that they needed every last second to pull out where the defense had ZERO sacks and only a single interception of a game-ending hail mary...by Danny freakin' Kannel!And Ghost Rider is 1000% right. If this was a game Manning lost, the Pats fans would bring every choking cliche out of the woodwork to put the blame squarely on him. The Patriots lost. So don't be so quick to give Brady a pass. QBs that throw 100-yard interceptions in the red zone needs to take a chunk of the blame.And don't blame the calls. You likely had one that was unfair (the Samuels non-pass interference penalty) that probably would have been a FG to end the drive rather than a TD. So you can take the moral victory that the final score was actually 23-13 last night.

 
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Getting back to the orginal topic...The refs gave it to the Broncos. 

If the Colts can get past the Pats, they'll hang a half century on the Broncos.
:confused: If you meant the Steelers, don't worry. They won't!
####...don't even have a hang over....past Pitt.
 
you forget get four turnover and not have to get any offensive yards for TD's (or one). And get one pass intereference call against the opponent (that was BS)

But other than that your a great team.

LOL

Brady isn't getting a pass! He was off his game. Most of the O was. But to sit there and tout your team as great is a joke. The Bronco's were out gained by a team that was completly off it's game (420 to 286).

I have no problem saying we lost and good luck to the Bronco's vs either team. But it we the PATS that won that way I'd be very nervous about playing either PITT or INDY with that O output.

Am I wrong? NO.

No hard feelings here. Good luck next week DEN.

Hope to see you next year.

 
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Brady was definitely off his game tonight. He short armed a couple of screen passes, and overthrew wide open players. I don't believe much in the "choking" theory, but Brady certainly made uncharacteristic mistakes tonight in pressure situations.
Isn't that the definition of "choking"?
No, because it's Tom Brady. The board here has been very clear about this.
 
Brady was definitely off his game tonight. He short armed a couple of screen passes, and overthrew wide open players. I don't believe much in the "choking" theory, but Brady certainly made uncharacteristic mistakes tonight in pressure situations.
Isn't that the definition of "choking"?
No, because it's Tom Brady. The board here has been very clear about this.
Tom Brady doesn't make mistakes. He's as flawless as they come. It's never his receivers making great catches. It's Brady's pinpoint accuracy.If Brady played defense and special teams, Denver wouldn't have had a shot.

I only hope that Brady can officiate the Super Bowl in February because we know he's the only capable enough to call it right down the middle, perfectly!

 
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Getting back to the orginal topic...The refs gave it to the Broncos. 

If the Colts can get past the Pats, they'll hang a half century on the Broncos.
Yup, that was actually a ref in Champs jersey that got the 100 yd interception return. I know it was the ref because Champ is too fast and wouldn't have gotten caught from behind. The way the refs conviced the Pats to not have anyone deep on a punt return was ingenius. Making Brown run 30 yds just to field the punt and then muff it...Thanks refs.

My favorite was when the ref in Sauerbrun's uniform forced that fumble. Boy did the refs help us out there. You guys couldn't stop our Kicker for God's sake.

OK, I know you're talking about the pass interference penalty. Technically speaking, according to the rules, a defensive back cannot get in front of a wide receiver and impede his progress toward the ball. Good call. Pass interference defense. The only "bad" part of the call is that I think the ball should have been placed at the 3 or 4 instead of the 1.

Now that is my opinion while being very literal about the rule. Could it have been a non call? Very possibly. Should it have been? Maybe. Part of home field advantage is getting the close calls sometimes. (Remember the tuck rule homers?) You guys shouldn't have even been in 3 of the last 4 Superbowls. The Raiders beat you in that game. And let me tell you, that is hard for a Broncos fan to say. It's just funny that a team who's dynasty began on a questionable call whines about a questionable call that goes against them when their dynasty is in jeopardy.

5 turnovers is why you lost....Not the refs.

( edit to say..only some of the fans are whining. The Pats themselves and rational Patriot fans know the real reason for the loss.) ( Sorry and good luck next year.)

 
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There is only one reason , turnovers .If it was nt for the turnovers Denver would have been shutout , they have absolutely no offense . They could not run or pass the ball.

 
Getting back to the orginal topic...The refs gave it to the Broncos. 

If the Colts can get past the Pats, they'll hang a half century on the Broncos.
Yup, that was actually a ref in Champs jersey that got the 100 yd interception return. I know it was the ref because Champ is too fast and wouldn't have gotten caught from behind. The way the refs conviced the Pats to not have anyone deep on a punt return was ingenius. Making Brown run 30 yds just to field the punt and then muff it...Thanks refs.

My favorite was when the ref in Sauerbrun's uniform forced that fumble. Boy did the refs help us out there. You guys couldn't stop our Kicker for God's sake.

OK, I know you're talking about the pass interference penalty. Technically speaking, according to the rules, a defensive back cannot get in front of a wide receiver and impede his progress toward the ball. Good call. Pass interference defense. The only "bad" part of the call is that I think the ball should have been placed at the 3 or 4 instead of the 1.

Now that is my opinion while being very literal about the rule. Could it have been a non call? Very possibly. Should it have been? Maybe. Part of home field advantage is getting the close calls sometimes. (Remember the tuck rule homers?) You guys shouldn't have even been in 3 of the last 4 Superbowls. The Raiders beat you in that game. And let me tell you, that is hard for a Broncos fan to say. It's just funny that a team who's dynasty began on a questionable call whines about a questionable call that goes against them when their dynasty is in jeopardy.

5 turnovers is why you lost....Not the refs.
Aside from the "shouldn't have been in 3/4 SBs", :goodposting: I'm a Steeler's fan for a day!

 
The last two minutes of the first half were the reason for the final outcome. Fumble by FaulkBAD pass interference callFumble on the kickoffBefore that, the Pats were up and appeared to be ready to make a drive to score again. That would have taken the life out of the Broncos. Instead, Denver got the momentum, and NE was left kind of shellshocked.Best play of the game, IMO, was when Watson absolutely leveled Champ Bailey, who never saw it coming because of his showboating. Reminded me a little of Leon Lett against the Bills.

 
Could care less about the pissing match between Broncos and Pats fans. I'm not a fan of either team. I'm a fan of the NFL, and enjoy watching a good game.It's quite simple. The Broncos outplayed the Pats. Also, the Pats beat the Pats. The Broncos didn't have to do too much themselves. Fumbles and INTs killed the Pats, which is very uncharacteristic of them. The Pats defense didn't exactly play horrible. Their offense and special teams killed them, and put them in horrible position and asked WAAAAY too much of their defense. Look at the first half of the game. It really should have ended 0-0 or 3-0 Pats, really. But the fumbles set it up to be 10-3 instead.Congrats to the Broncos. You better be rooting for the Steelers, since you don't want to play AT Indy...

 
Feel free to comment with your own...here's my list(s):

Top Ten Reasons the Broncos beat the Patriots

=============================================

10. The Patriots had their "swagger" back

9. Belichick is a genius

8. Denver is 29th in the league vs. the pass

7. Only the Browns had fewer sacks than the Broncos this year

6. Tom Brady doesn't lose in the playoffs

5. The Patriots never lose to the same team twice in the same season

4. The Patriots started 5 players that didn't play Denver earlier this year

3. Brady vs. Plummer? I mean JAKE PLUMMER?

2. 90% of "experts" picked the Patriots to win

1. Shanahan can't win a playoff game without Elway :eek:

OK, THE REAL REASONS:

======================

5. It takes a team to win and the Broncos have a well-balanced team!

4. Shanahan owns Belichick like nobody else in the league (4-1 since '01)

3. THE FANS AT INVESCO!!!!

2. The Broncos offense scored more TDs than FGs and the Broncos D rocks!!!

1. Forget sacks - Brady was on his ### all game!!!!!

Honorable Mention: Sauerbran (the Broncos punter) can tackle!!!!

GO BRONCOS!!!!! :D
How about 2 terrible calls by the refs that directly led to both of Anderson's TDs which coincidentally was the point difference in the game.The Pats beat themselves with t/os. Brady was not in sync with his receivers at criticals times in the game. Try to formulate an argument how Denver "outplayed" the Pats. I could use a laugh.

Pretty sad that the Pats turned the ball over 5 times, Adam V. misses a FG attempt and the Broncos were only up by 2 scores. Good luck against Pitt. That defense will rip your lungs out and throw them on the field while they are still breathing in and out that mile high air..... :yes:

 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight? No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking. Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
Funny... Ghost Rider called it alright...
 
Do I think Tom Brady choked tonight?  No.

However, I do think if that had been Peyton Manning having a game out there like that, people would be coming out of the woodwork and accusing him of choking.  Patriots fans, some of whom would be leading the charge. cannot deny that.
Funny... Ghost Rider called it alright...
Big difference. After a player has proven himself repeatedly in high pressure situations, an off game isn't considered choking except by those who don't wish to see otherwise. Brady wasn't at his best but his second interception was akin to a Hail Mary down by 2 scores with that little time left. Whether fair or not, Manning has a long history of not winning the big game.

 

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