Top Tier of WRs (1 Viewer)

[Pole Cat]

Steve Smith

Chad Johnson

TO

Marvin Harrison

Reggie Wayne

Holt

Fitzgerald

Boldin

In a non-PPR I just can't distinguish these guys. They all play in good/great offenses and are pretty close to locks for 9-12 TDs and 1200-1400. This has me thinking that it just won't be worth taking the #1 or #2 WR off the board when you can get the same guy a round or a round and a half later.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I dont think Fitz or Boldin finish in the top 10 this year.

 

[Shermanator]

These receivers are all 2nd round picks,(maybe not Fitz, and Boldin). Waiting beyond that, they will be gone

 

[veto87]

pretty soon both Fitzgerald and Boldin will not be able to co-exist on the same team. They're both too good . Today's professional athlete's ego's or their agents talking in their ear cause them to hold out, demand trades etc.

I don't know th econtractual obligations for AZ but I wouldn't be surprized to see one of them go .

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

pretty soon both Fitzgerald and Boldin will not be able to co-exist on the same team. They're both too good . Today's professional athlete's ego's or their agents talking in their ear cause them to hold out, demand trades etc.I don't know th econtractual obligations for AZ but I wouldn't be surprized to see one of them go .

I dunno about that. Rice and TO were together for a couple seasons, Carter and Moss, Bruce and Holt have been together awhile, Wayne and Harrison, not to mention the formidable duo of Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell !

 

[Mr. Pink]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is.

You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

 

[sizzer55]

These receivers are all 2nd round picks,(maybe not Fitz, and Boldin). Waiting beyond that, they will be gone

agreed. it doesn't feel like a good value to be the first to take one when you have them all ranked about the same but at the same time there is a good chance that they'll all be gone when you pick again (depending on how many picks you must wait to pick again). if you really want one of them and are worried that they may be gone by your next pick, you could pick your favorite one and then on your next pick you could grab another of them if any are still available. i wouldn't expect any of them to be around middle to late round three though.

 

[veto87]

pretty soon both Fitzgerald and Boldin will not be able to co-exist on the same team. They're both too good . Today's professional athlete's ego's or their agents talking in their ear cause them to hold out, demand trades etc.I don't know th econtractual obligations for AZ but I wouldn't be surprized to see one of them go .

I dunno about that. Rice and TO were together for a couple seasons, Carter and Moss, Bruce and Holt have been together awhile, Wayne and Harrison, not to mention the formidable duo of Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell !

In all those situations though , one guy was an established veteran and then the other came in . In Arizona's situation they are both young and at the start of their careers. Plus in the situations above except Bruce and Holt , the others only stayed together for a few years ( and in Indy's situation Harrison is 35 and will soon retire)

 

[sizzer55]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

agreed. it kind of seems to me that over the past few years that there have been fewer 'monster' seasons by wr's. i don' t know if it's because more teams are spreading the ball around more or defenses are taking away #1 options or what. whatever the reason, the gap between the elite and average recievers has narrowed. thus slightly devaluing the wr position in general. maybe not enough to change your draft strategy but it could be the difference on whether to take a wr or a different position in certain situations.

 

[Pole Cat]

I didn't include Boldin/Fitz in that top tier. I think they make up a close second tier in which you could probably throw Roy Williams. I agree with the posts that this group might fly off the board in close succession leaving you empty handed if you wait. But I was also interested to see if anyone had an opinion as to how to differentiate these guys if you are going to grab one. I think Steve Smith is overrated when people talk about him as the #1 guy. He just isn't the red zone target that the rest are and you have to worry about his quarterback play and overall offense. I'm kind of leaning toward TO, but there is always the concern that he blows up and leaves you in a bind come playoff time. I don't think Holt will get the TDs. C. Johnson piled up numbers in a few big games last year and wasn't a factor in others. I guess leaves Harrison and Wayne.

 

[valence]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

 

[gianmarco]

If you start the run, then there's also a good chance of getting 2 of those guys depending on your draft spot. After about the first 13-15 WRs (need to look at exact #), there is a serious dropoff.

 

[gianmarco]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

Exactly. Everyone is going to have 1 of those guys. The teams that have 2 (and maybe even 3) of these WR's are gonna finish stronger this year I think.

 

[gianmarco]

S. Smith

CJ

Holt

Harrison

TO

Wayne

Fitzgerald

Boldin

Roy Williams

Andre Johnson

Walker

Housh

Driver

Evans

14 WR's. After that, I don't see anyone really close. And I'm being generous with Evans as I'm not as high on him as others.

 

[rzrback77]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

I think that a lot of these top twelve WRs will go a little higher as a group this year, in the 12 to 30 overall range. There will be more WRs taken earlier as several teams will wait for the second and third RB due to the expectation of getting a decent RB in the RB25 to RB 30 range.

 

[RudeDog]

Watch out for Roy Williams in your rear-view mirror

 

[Mr. Pink]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

I think that a lot of these top twelve WRs will go a little higher as a group this year, in the 12 to 30 overall range. There will be more WRs taken earlier as several teams will wait for the second and third RB due to the expectation of getting a decent RB in the RB25 to RB 30 range.

Therein lies the problem. I don't think you can get a decent RB#2 in the RB25-30 range. While agree drafting in the top 3-4 picks thrusts the value toward the WR position, I would be much more confident grabbing two RBs if I'm in the 5-12 range and still getting a good WR1 out of it. For the record, I did say virtually any draft position. There are always exceptions.Last season, many owners I drafted with bit on an elite WR in the top half of the 2nd round (I grabbed Holt drafting from the #10 spot after CJ was taken in one redraft). That continued a WR run that only lasted two more spots. Conversely, this season provides enough value at WR that owners are more than likely, and rightfully so, to go RB/RB. Guys in the 1-4 spots always have more flexibility in the 2/3 turn.

 

[veto87]

S. Smith

CJ

Holt

Harrison

TO

Wayne

Fitzgerald

Boldin

Roy Williams

Andre Johnson

Walker

Housh

Driver

Evans

14 WR's. After that, I don't see anyone really close. And I'm being generous with Evans as I'm not as high on him as others.

any time a player catches 2 /83 yard TDs in a game and beats you ( as in my case) you pay attention. his problem is that he's inconsistent but can really beat you bad on those games where he shines !

 

[Mr. Pink]

S. Smith

CJ

Holt

Harrison

TO

Wayne

Fitzgerald

Boldin

Roy Williams

Andre Johnson

Walker

Housh

Driver

Evans

14 WR's. After that, I don't see anyone really close. And I'm being generous with Evans as I'm not as high on him as others.

any time a player catches 2 /83 yard TDs in a game and beats you ( as in my case) you pay attention. his problem is that he's inconsistent but can really beat you bad on those games where he shines !

One thing Evans is not inconsistent with is his December production.....just rididculous. 14 of his 24 career TDs came in December, including a string of 4 consecutive games last year. One small three year sample of Evans tells us this: He's a WR you want come playoff time.

 

[bcr8f]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

Driver finished 5th in receptions, 6th in yards and 9th in TD's. And he was doubled teamed constantly after week 5. I agree they may all be top tier players.

 

[ceo3west]

S. Smith

CJ

Holt

Harrison

TO

Wayne

Fitzgerald

Boldin

Roy Williams

Andre Johnson

Walker

Housh

Driver

Evans

14 WR's. After that, I don't see anyone really close. And I'm being generous with Evans as I'm not as high on him as others.

any time a player catches 2 /83 yard TDs in a game and beats you ( as in my case) you pay attention. his problem is that he's inconsistent but can really beat you bad on those games where he shines !

One thing Evans is not inconsistent with is his December production.....just rididculous. 14 of his 24 career TDs came in December, including a string of 4 consecutive games last year. One small three year sample of Evans tells us this: He's a WR you want come playoff time.

Especially this year with that cake playoff sched. He could be the money guy this year.

 

[3nOut]

S. SmithCJHoltHarrisonTOWayneFitzgeraldBoldinRoy WilliamsAndre JohnsonWalkerHoushDriverEvans14 WR's. After that, I don't see anyone really close. And I'm being generous with Evans as I'm not as high on him as others.

R. Moss wouldn't be close? I'm surpised he hasn't even been mentioned yet. I even think he replaces a few of these on your list. WHat about Calvin Johnson? I thik he has a chance to 'be close' as well, even with Roy there.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

S. SmithCJHoltHarrisonTOWayneFitzgeraldBoldinRoy WilliamsAndre JohnsonWalkerHoushDriverEvans14 WR's. After that, I don't see anyone really close. And I'm being generous with Evans as I'm not as high on him as others.

R. Moss wouldn't be close? I'm surpised he hasn't even been mentioned yet. I even think he replaces a few of these on your list. WHat about Calvin Johnson? I thik he has a chance to 'be close' as well, even with Roy there.

colston also dropped off the planet. lav. coles shouldn't be far off. santana moss would be there if he had a QB to throw to him.

 

[Squinting Cyclops]

Good discussion. Always a good discussion of when to pull the trigger on the top shelf WR's

To put some flesh on the hypothetical bones.....

I will be drafting from the #2 position in a redraft. I should be able to land either 2 elite WR's or get 1 elite WR and a RB like Benson, Portis, T Jones, or Caddy in the 2 to 3 swing. If I pass on these WR's I have NO CHANCE of them being there when it comes back to me in the 4 to 5 swing. If I go for the two WR's I will likely get half ot a RBBC or maybe a Jamal Lewis. It's a quandry!

 

[King of the Wolfies]

What about Reggie Brown? With no Stallworth, I'm thinking he could go off big this year.

 

[radballs]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

 

[radballs]

Actually, on second thought, it really depends on your drafting position, league size, starting requirements, and scoring (ppr vs. non-ppr).

 

[acme]

What about Reggie Brown? With no Stallworth, I'm thinking he could go off big this year.

I hope you're right Wolfie, but I really haven't heard a lot of love for the guy yet. I thought he'd be getting more, given his situation.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Player Bye ADP

Chad Johnson 5 2.03

Steve Smith 7 2.06

Torry Holt 9 2.09

Marvin Harrison 6 3.01

Reggie Wayne 6 2.12

Terrell Owens 8 3.03

Larry Fitzgerald 8 2.1

Javon Walker 6 4.07

Roy Williams 6 3.04

Plaxico Burress 9 5.01

Anquan Boldin 8 3.11

Lee Evans 6 4.11

T.J. Houshmandzadeh 5 4.09

Marques Colston 4 4.02

Randy Moss 10 4.06

Donald Driver 7 4.1

I wouldn't say it's impossible to get one of the top tier guys past the 2nd round (like previously mentioned. I think you can go RB, RB, and land Williams or Walker in the 3rd Rd ..... and then maybe Burress or Lee Evans in the 4th pretty safely.

Rbush 4 1.11

Maroney 10 1.09

Henry 6 2.05

Jones-Drew4 2.04

Portis 4 2.01

James 8 2.11

Benson 9 2.08

McGahee 8 2.02

RonBrown 9 2.07

McAllister 4 3.08

The RBs, in comparison are going much earlier. This is about the cut off, IMO, of the solid RB2s. You take WR WR in the 2nd and 3rd and you're looking at McAllister at the best. No way does Benson fall to the 3rd.

I think you can land more value at WR later....and if you wait on RBs you may be in trouble.

 

[((Morpheus))]

I see a lot of problems with the WRs at the top of your list.

Smith was contained late last season.

TO is a whackjob.

CJ/Housh, Harrison/Wayne, Fitz/Boldin split numbers.

That leaves Mr. Consistency, Tory Holt, as my early favorite to finish #1 this year. And I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Andre Johnson finishes #2.

 

[simey]

Smith was contained late last season.

That is misleading. Chris Weinke was throwing to him late last season. Jake came back for the last game of the season, and Smith caught 2 td's. The three games prior to that, Chris Weinke was quarterbacking, and he was absolutely dreadful. Weinke was so bad, that the second to the last game of the season when the Panthers played Atlanta, Weinke only threw the ball 7 times.

 

[joffer]

Smith was contained late last season.

That is misleading wrong.

fixed. if the #2 WR in ppg (PPR) is contained, who isn't?

 

[gianmarco]

I see a lot of problems with the WRs at the top of your list.Smith was contained late last season.TO is a whackjob.CJ/Housh, Harrison/Wayne, Fitz/Boldin split numbers.That leaves Mr. Consistency, Tory Holt, as my early favorite to finish #1 this year. And I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Andre Johnson finishes #2.

That list wasn't in a specific order, although it is close as that's how it usually comes to mind.

 

[Squinting Cyclops]

Player Bye ADPChad Johnson 5 : 2.03Steve Smith 7 : 2.06Torry Holt 9 : 2.09Marvin Harrison 6 : 3.01Reggie Wayne 6 : 2.12Terrell Owens 8 : 3.03 Larry Fitzgerald 8 : 2.1Javon Walker 6 : 4.07Roy Williams 6 : 3.04Plaxico Burress 9 : 5.01Anquan Boldin 8 : 3.11Lee Evans 6 : 4.11T.J. Houshmandzadeh 5 : 4.09Marques Colston 4 : 4.02Randy Moss 10 : 4.06Donald Driver 7 : 4.1I wouldn't say it's impossible to get one of the top tier guys past the 2nd round (like previously mentioned. I think you can go RB, RB, and land Williams or Walker in the 3rd Rd ..... and then maybe Burress or Lee Evans in the 4th pretty safely. Rbush 4 : 1.11Maroney 10 : 1.09Henry 6 : 2.05Jones-Drew4 : 2.04Portis 4 : 2.01James 8 : 2.11Benson 9 : 2.08McGahee 8 : 2.02RonBrown 9 : 2.07McAllister 4 : 3.08The RBs, in comparison are going much earlier. This is about the cut off, IMO, of the solid RB2s. You take WR WR in the 2nd and 3rd and you're looking at McAllister at the best. No way does Benson fall to the 3rd.I think you can land more value at WR later....and if you wait on RBs you may be in trouble.

sooo..... if you have pick 1-3, on the round 2 : 3 turn are you saying you think getting at least 1 RB is a good idea? I guess there is a chance that Burress or Evans may be there for the 4 : 5 turn... so lets just say you pick from the #2 slot :you could have SJAX, Holt, Wayne, J LewisORyou could have SJAX, James, Wayne, Evans which group of 4 is better?

 

[Mr. Pink]

Player Bye ADPChad Johnson 5 : 2.03Steve Smith 7 : 2.06Torry Holt 9 : 2.09Marvin Harrison 6 : 3.01Reggie Wayne 6 : 2.12Terrell Owens 8 : 3.03 Larry Fitzgerald 8 : 2.1Javon Walker 6 : 4.07Roy Williams 6 : 3.04Plaxico Burress 9 : 5.01Anquan Boldin 8 : 3.11Lee Evans 6 : 4.11T.J. Houshmandzadeh 5 : 4.09Marques Colston 4 : 4.02Randy Moss 10 : 4.06Donald Driver 7 : 4.1I wouldn't say it's impossible to get one of the top tier guys past the 2nd round (like previously mentioned. I think you can go RB, RB, and land Williams or Walker in the 3rd Rd ..... and then maybe Burress or Lee Evans in the 4th pretty safely. Rbush 4 : 1.11Maroney 10 : 1.09Henry 6 : 2.05Jones-Drew4 : 2.04Portis 4 : 2.01James 8 : 2.11Benson 9 : 2.08McGahee 8 : 2.02RonBrown 9 : 2.07McAllister 4 : 3.08The RBs, in comparison are going much earlier. This is about the cut off, IMO, of the solid RB2s. You take WR WR in the 2nd and 3rd and you're looking at McAllister at the best. No way does Benson fall to the 3rd.I think you can land more value at WR later....and if you wait on RBs you may be in trouble.

sooo..... if you have pick 1-3, on the round 2 : 3 turn are you saying you think getting at least 1 RB is a good idea? I guess there is a chance that Burress or Evans may be there for the 4 : 5 turn... so lets just say you pick from the #2 slot :you could have SJAX, Holt, Wayne, J LewisORyou could have SJAX, James, Wayne, Evans which group of 4 is better?

Tough call on the face, but I think the value of Edge over JLew exceeds the value of Holt over Evans. That's just my opinion. I feel safer with the latter choice.

 

[the spanker]

Player Bye ADPChad Johnson 5 : 2.03Steve Smith 7 : 2.06Torry Holt 9 : 2.09Marvin Harrison 6 : 3.01Reggie Wayne 6 : 2.12Terrell Owens 8 : 3.03 Larry Fitzgerald 8 : 2.1Javon Walker 6 : 4.07Roy Williams 6 : 3.04Plaxico Burress 9 : 5.01Anquan Boldin 8 : 3.11Lee Evans 6 : 4.11T.J. Houshmandzadeh 5 : 4.09Marques Colston 4 : 4.02Randy Moss 10 : 4.06Donald Driver 7 : 4.1I wouldn't say it's impossible to get one of the top tier guys past the 2nd round (like previously mentioned. I think you can go RB, RB, and land Williams or Walker in the 3rd Rd ..... and then maybe Burress or Lee Evans in the 4th pretty safely. Rbush 4 : 1.11Maroney 10 : 1.09Henry 6 : 2.05Jones-Drew4 : 2.04Portis 4 : 2.01James 8 : 2.11Benson 9 : 2.08McGahee 8 : 2.02RonBrown 9 : 2.07McAllister 4 : 3.08The RBs, in comparison are going much earlier. This is about the cut off, IMO, of the solid RB2s. You take WR WR in the 2nd and 3rd and you're looking at McAllister at the best. No way does Benson fall to the 3rd.I think you can land more value at WR later....and if you wait on RBs you may be in trouble.

sooo..... if you have pick 1-3, on the round 2 : 3 turn are you saying you think getting at least 1 RB is a good idea? I guess there is a chance that Burress or Evans may be there for the 4 : 5 turn... so lets just say you pick from the #2 slot :you could have SJAX, Holt, Wayne, J LewisORyou could have SJAX, James, Wayne, Evans which group of 4 is better?

Tough call on the face, but I think the value of Edge over JLew exceeds the value of Holt over Evans. That's just my opinion. I feel safer with the latter choice.

Well in a ppr league the value goes to the latter IMHO for sure.

 

[acefootball]

Great thread.

 

[duaneok66]

Roy Williams will be a top 5 WR this year . . .

 

[Loomba]

I agree there is no obvious choice (or two) as WR#1, unlike previous seasons.

Personally, I'd take TO. His #2 and #3 WR mates are not as big a threat to eat into his production. If TO remains healthy, you know he will have another big year.

Chad showed inconsistency last year and Palmer is learning to spread the ball around to Housh and others.

Smith would be a good choice too, but I fear Delhomme might not be able to hang onto the job, so a new QB (Carr) could take some time making a connection with Smith.

Harrison is steady eddy, but each year Wayne seems to take a little more of the offense from him.

Wayne still has yet to fully pass Harrison.

Fitz and Boldin have a running based coaching staff coming in.

Holt would be a close second choice along with S. Smith.

 

[Squinting Cyclops]

I agree there is no obvious choice (or two) as WR#1, unlike previous seasons. Personally, I'd take TO. His #2 and #3 WR mates are not as big a threat to eat into his production. If TO remains healthy, you know he will have another big year.Chad showed inconsistency last year and Palmer is learning to spread the ball around to Housh and others.Smith would be a good choice too, but I fear Delhomme might not be able to hang onto the job, so a new QB (Carr) could take some time making a connection with Smith.Harrison is steady eddy, but each year Wayne seems to take a little more of the offense from him.Wayne still has yet to fully pass Harrison.Fitz and Boldin have a running based coaching staff coming in.Holt would be a close second choice along with S. Smith.

I like Holt and either Harrison or Wayne as my first choice. Owens...well OK, I guess.I think Housch will cut into Chad more this year and in ARZ they will be splitting the love from Leinart. S Smith I never really have been sold on, though he has been solid since his injury year.

 

[Mr. Pink]

S. Smith is one guy I would spend an early pick on if I'm not going RB, RB....depending on draft position of course. I think he has proven himself as a guy who can make the tough catch, he's gritty, he's fast, and based on his size, if he can be that productive, what's not to like. Not to mention, they have a nice SOS this season.

Other than that, I just wanted to post a comment to keep this thread going. Great stuff guys!

 

[Double_J]

The problem with RB/RB is a lot of the guys that will be available share the same bye week with your first guy. For example, if you have LJ and Edge is staring you in the face do you take him and have both starting running backs out in week 8? I'm pretty sure I'll be able to go LJ/Holt/Wayne in the 3 hole then get Green in the 4th. I really think he's underrated this year and I have no problems having him as my RB2 this year.

 

[North]

Steve SmithChad JohnsonTOMarvin HarrisonReggie WayneHoltFitzgeraldBoldinIn a non-PPR I just can't distinguish these guys. They all play in good/great offenses and are pretty close to locks for 9-12 TDs and 1200-1400. This has me thinking that it just won't be worth taking the #1 or #2 WR off the board when you can get the same guy a round or a round and a half later.

You forgot 2 guys who are going to be HUGE this year. Roy Williams and Houshamizzilly.

 

[Aces up]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

 

[Aces up]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

 

[Aces up]

While I wouldn't encourage extending that list out further, I stongly believe that the WR position is as deep at the top end of any position in FF this year. From where I sit, there are some 12-15 WRs who all have the opportunity to finish in the top 5-6. Aside from the ones you just mentioned, I would throw in R. Williams, TJ House, AJ, Evans, Javon Walker, Colston, heck even Driver. Unlike last season, this is one year where it pays to go RB, RB from virtually any draft position...10 and 12 teamers, that is. You are more than likely to get a quality WR with top ten potential in the 3rd round. If you hit, maybe even top 5.

I disagree. Especially picking from one of the top 3 spots.Pairing LT\LJ\SJax with 2 from that list is just dominating. middle round RB talent is deep this year. From the 3 spot in a 12 team PPR league I started with SJax, Steve Smith, and Boldin.imo getting your RB1 in the 1st and then taking 2 elite WR's in the 2nd and third is the way to go this year.

In a PPR league picking early I agree with your strategybut what do you do if you are picking from the 9 to 12 spot?There won't be any pass catching RBs at that point andThere's no way to get that 2nd top-tier WR with a late 3rd-round pick.Looking at projections these top-tier WRs will be more valuablethe next tier RBs.A twist in my league is the starting lineup can consist of just 1 RBand 4 receivers.???

 

[I'm Rick James]

I have the 1 spot in a 12 team that's 1/2 point per reception with start 1 rb 3wrs and a flex. 1rb - 4wr or 2 rb - 3wr.

The only RB's that may be left at the 2/3 turn will be T. Jones, C. Benson, and other rb's that would be a reach -- like Caddy, D. Williams, D. McCallister, B. Jacobs.

Since it is 1/2 point per reception, I can't see taking those rb's ahead of a M. Harrison, Wayne, T.O., R. Williams.

If Edge made it, I would probably take him as he should catch a lot of passes. I like T. Jones, but his S.O.S. is brutal in the start of the season, and I'm worried about a key O-lineman (can't remember his name) that may not be there.

So I'm looking at:

LT

T. Owens

Marvin/Wayne/R. Williams

My 2nd RB would be suspect. Probably a Jamal Lewis, with gambles on C. Taylor, B. Jackson or V. Morency later.

If I went with the RB at the turn, I'm looking at:

LT

T. Owens

T. Jones

Maybe P. Burress (Driver will be gone by 48 for sure -- WR's will go fast in 3/4th round in our format) or L. Coles

with DJ Hacket/Galloway later

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

S Smith I never really have been sold on, though he has been solid since his injury year.

I mean, seriously.

 

[pizzatyme]

I agree there is no obvious choice (or two) as WR#1, unlike previous seasons. Personally, I'd take TO. His #2 and #3 WR mates are not as big a threat to eat into his production. If TO remains healthy, you know he will have another big year.Chad showed inconsistency last year and Palmer is learning to spread the ball around to Housh and others.Smith would be a good choice too, but I fear Delhomme might not be able to hang onto the job, so a new QB (Carr) could take some time making a connection with Smith.Harrison is steady eddy, but each year Wayne seems to take a little more of the offense from him.Wayne still has yet to fully pass Harrison.Fitz and Boldin have a running based coaching staff coming in.Holt would be a close second choice along with S. Smith.

Ohhh wee T-shane, that's exactly how I see it! Scary!!!

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Player Bye ADPChad Johnson 5 : 2.03Steve Smith 7 : 2.06Torry Holt 9 : 2.09Marvin Harrison 6 : 3.01Reggie Wayne 6 : 2.12Terrell Owens 8 : 3.03 Larry Fitzgerald 8 : 2.1Javon Walker 6 : 4.07Roy Williams 6 : 3.04Plaxico Burress 9 : 5.01Anquan Boldin 8 : 3.11Lee Evans 6 : 4.11T.J. Houshmandzadeh 5 : 4.09Marques Colston 4 : 4.02Randy Moss 10 : 4.06Donald Driver 7 : 4.1I wouldn't say it's impossible to get one of the top tier guys past the 2nd round (like previously mentioned. I think you can go RB, RB, and land Williams or Walker in the 3rd Rd ..... and then maybe Burress or Lee Evans in the 4th pretty safely. Rbush 4 : 1.11Maroney 10 : 1.09Henry 6 : 2.05Jones-Drew4 : 2.04Portis 4 : 2.01James 8 : 2.11Benson 9 : 2.08McGahee 8 : 2.02RonBrown 9 : 2.07McAllister 4 : 3.08The RBs, in comparison are going much earlier. This is about the cut off, IMO, of the solid RB2s. You take WR WR in the 2nd and 3rd and you're looking at McAllister at the best. No way does Benson fall to the 3rd.I think you can land more value at WR later....and if you wait on RBs you may be in trouble.

sooo..... if you have pick 1-3, on the round 2 : 3 turn are you saying you think getting at least 1 RB is a good idea? I guess there is a chance that Burress or Evans may be there for the 4 : 5 turn... so lets just say you pick from the #2 slot :you could have SJAX, Holt, Wayne, J LewisORyou could have SJAX, James, Wayne, Evans which group of 4 is better?

I would NOT be comfortable with Jamal Lewis as my RB2. However, I'd be very comfortable with Evans as my WR2.