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Trade Barnett before he loses his value? (1 Viewer)

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As everyone knows the Packers drafted two good LBs this year. One has always been playing the middle and the other is the most best LB to come out in a couple of years. Barnett is very likely to move to the strong side where his tackle numbers will take a huge hit. I have a trade offer on the table which I'm thinking very hard on taking:

Nick barnett, 3.11 rookie

for

Bart Scott, 3.02 rookie

should I do the trade or is that not enough value for Barnettt?

 
As everyone knows the Packers drafted two good LBs this year.  One has always been playing the middle and the other is the most best LB to come out in a couple of years.  Barnett is very likely to move to the strong side where his tackle numbers will take a huge hit.  I have a trade offer on the table which I'm thinking very hard on taking:

Nick barnett, 3.11 rookie

for

Bart Scott, 3.02 rookie

should I do the trade or is that not enough value for Barnettt?

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I wouldn't fault anybody for trying to move Barnett right now. Even if he remains the MLB long term, Hawk will cut into his production.But unless the 3.02 is great value in your league, I have to think I'm holding out for much better than this.

I tend to hold onto defensive talent a little longer than most, but I don't think it's time to sell Barnett just in case his value drops to LB3 number yet.

 
I still think Hodge is more likely to play at SLB than Barnett

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Hodge is slower than Barnett, so I think that Barnett would be better suited for SLB. Barnett's coverage of TE's is far better than Hodge could do and his pursuit is far better. Any short coming that Hadge has w/ speed will be compensated by Hawk and Barnett's speed on the outside.
 
I agree Hodge is better placed at MLB. What I figure is an Indy situation... the most experienced LB will be moved to SLB which is Nick B....

Albeit, you have to figure Nick and AJ will be the nickel backers. So 3 down linebackers nonetheless.

 
This a cut and past from a shark pool thread that bloom has going on multiple things:

Everyone in IDP wants to know.  Do you think AJ Hawk will play WLB or SLB?

This is very important.  Ask DJ Williams.

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sorry SLB. But he should be a 3 down LB unlike DJ. DJ will be a stud again eventually, dont worry.
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Just a thought. Hawk could easily end up in the middle. There's been plenty of talk that Barnett is best suted to OLB.
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I'm sorry Bloom but do you really see AJ Hawk as SLB in GB.

Do you think they'll put him in coverage instead of attacking the Line of Scrimmage every down????

I figured getting their three best LB's on the field would be :

HAWK = WLB

HODGE = MLB

BARNETT = SLB

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here is some additional info...for those that may not know this Barnett played SLB his final 2 yrs at OregonLink for 2002 OS Depth Charts

OREGON STATE 2002 DEPTH CHART

Returning Starters in Bold

DEFENSE

DE  Noah Happe-Jr  Bill Swancutt-So

DT  Eric Manning-Sr  James Lee-Sr

DT  Dwan Edwards-Jr  Henry Anderson-Fr

DE  Dan Rothwell-Jr  Jayson Jean-Baptiste-Jr

SLB  Nick Barnett-Sr Jason Jacobs-Jr

MLB  Richard Seigler-Jr Jonathan Pollard-So

WLB  Erik Tuma-Sr  Seth Lacey-So

CB  Terrell Roberts-Sr  Aric Williams-So

CB  Dennis Weathersby-Sr  Jamaal Jackson-Fr

SS  Lawrence Turner-Jr  Shamon Jamerson-Jr

FS  Mitch Meeuwsen-So  Brandon Catenese-Jr

P  Carl Tobey-Jr John Millar-Jr
LINK on Barnett playing SLB
Notes: High school hurdler and weightlifter. Enrolled as a linebacker in 1999 but moved to safety and played in every game, primarily on special teams. Shifted to outside linebacker in 2000, played in every game and started five games at the "Will" LB spot. Started every game at "Sam" LB position in '01. Had 44 tackles, three tackles for loss and broke up one pass in 2000. Had 73-6 with two sacks, broke up four passes with one interception in '01. Started all 13 games in '02, making 121-201-6, two forced fumbles, seven passes broken up and one blocked kick. Had a strong Combine performance, with a 6.87 three-cone and 32 reps of 225. Also showed he was intent on playing linebacker by added considerable bulk since the end of the '02 season.
Per KFFL LINK
Packers | Hodge provides depth at linebacker; he has a shot to start

Sun, 30 Apr 2006 06:47:25 -0700

Lori Nickel, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the Green Bay Packers plan to start off using third-round draft pick LB Abdul Hodge at middle linebacker at minicamp next weekend. Hodge seems willing to move around if need be to get on the field. Packers' general manager Ted Thompson said he was impressed that Hodge never left the field at Iowa and said it was conceivable that he could be a starter, and not just a special teams guy, in 2006. "You never know how that's going to work out, we're going to play the best three linebackers," Thompson said. "It's conceivable, sure."
LINK
Green Bay - The Green Bay Packers turned three first-day draft choices and the trade of wide receiver Javon Walker into five selections Saturday and three more Sunday while at the same time fortifying some of the weakest areas on the roster.

Led by the quintessential collegiate linebacker, A.J. Hawk of Ohio State, the Packers drafted five players with no fewer than three years of starting experience and an average score of 24.8 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test, about five more than the league average.

"All five of those guys are what I consider, we as a group consider, real football guys," GM Ted Thompson said. "Tough guys. Smart guys. I told my scouts three months ago to remind me every 15 minutes that we need real football players and not to get caught up with 40 times."

"We trusted our board," coach Mike McCarthy said. "We peeled them right off."

Hawk, 6 feet 1 inches and 245 pounds, immediately was installed as the starting weak-side linebacker.

"I think he'll be an impact player," McCarthy said. "He's been consistent throughout his whole career. I think he's a complete football player."

In the second round, the Packers took Boise State left tackle Daryn Colledge (6-4½, 301) but probably will give him every chance to start as a rookie, most likely at left guard where Junius Coston had been the nominal No. 1 this spring.

Five selections later, the Packers used the No. 52 pick on wide receiver Greg Jennings (5-11, 198) of Western Michigan. With Walker having been traded to Denver for a second-round choice (No. 37), Jennings has the ability to push for one of the top three berths as a rookie.

Green Bay's two choices in the third round were middle linebacker Abdul Hodge (6-0 ½, 234) of Iowa and center Jason Spitz (6-3½, 313) of Louisville.

After staying put and taking Hawk at No. 5, the Packers traded their second-round pick (No. 36) to New England for a second-round choice (No. 52) and a third-round choice (No. 75). Using the trade value chart, they finished plus-60 on the transaction.

Then they sent the No. 37 pick and a fifth (No. 139) to Atlanta for the second-round choice (No. 47) used for Colledge, a third-round pick (No. 93) and a fifth-round pick (No. 148). They finished plus-41 on that transaction.

Thompson said the Packers would have taken Colledge at No. 36, and thus were pleased to find him still available at No. 47.

Later, they dealt the third-round pick (No. 93) to St. Louis for a fourth-round pick (No. 109) and a sixth-round selection (No. 183). They finished minus-45 on that deal.

Now the Packers will open his morning with six selections, including two in the fourth round, two in the fifth, one in the sixth and one in the seventh. Beginning the day, they had four second-day choices.

Trading down three times increased to 11 the number of times that Thompson has backed up in 6½ drafts for Seattle and Green Bay. He has not traded up once.

"I don't necessarily like to (trade down)," Thompson said. "I do it when I have a number of players available that I'd consider taking, that I know I can go back and get one of those players. I won't sacrifice a player to move down."

Hodge will start out backing up Nick Barnett in the middle. However, the Packers intend to play their best three linebackers, and if Roy Manning and former Brown Ben Taylor don't pan out on the strong side Hodge definitely will have a chance to start.

Spitz, a guard in college, will start off competing with Chris White for the backup center job behind Scott Wells.

The Packers went with Hawk over Maryland's Vernon Davis, a brilliant prospect at tight end, quarterbacks Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler and defensive back Michael Huff.

"There's not any category that I can think of that I'm worried about," Thompson said, referring to Hawk. "That doesn't mean he's a perfect player or anything like that. But I think the fans here are going to love this guy. He's all football."

The Houston Texans might have used the first pick in the draft on defensive end Mario Williams but the consensus of scouts in the league was that Hawk was the better player. A Journal Sentinel poll of 16 personnel people saw Hawk get 11 votes as the best defensive player in the draft compared to three for Williams and two for linebacker Ernie Sims.

Several scouts said Hawk clearly would prove to be a superior linebacker in the 4-1 dime defense than Nick Barnett, who played almost every snap for the last three seasons and was no better than adequate against run and pass. Now the Packers will have two linebackers with speed and can employ more 4-2 sets on passing downs, increasing their ability to stop the run.

Hawk started for three seasons, as did Jennings and Hodge. Colledge was a four-year starter at left tackle and Spitz started 3½ years at guard.

Their Wonderlic scores were 27 for Hawk, 30 for Colledge, 18 for Jennings, 22 for Hodge and 27 for Spitz.

"We want to make an impact with high-character individuals," offensive line coach Joe Philbin said.

According to scouts, Colledge fits well in the zone style of ground game that the Packers will switch to in '06. His initial success, however, will hinge on whether he is robust enough in the upper body to anchor against big defensive tackles.

"He's got very good lower-body strength," Philbin said. "He's got good bend. He's got a chance to play with leverage."

The program at Boise State has taken off in recent seasons so caliber of competition didn't bother the Packers.

"He has quickness, balance and he's athletic," Philbin said. "Plus, you've got to love his durability. And he loves the game of football."

Jennings also toiled in the lower levels of Division I-A but that didn't stop the Packers. In the Journal Sentinel poll of 20 personnel people, he tied for the fourth best wide receiver in the draft.

"I was very impressed with his yards after the catch," McCarthy said. "He knows what to do with the ball in his hands. He has a playmaker mentality."

McCarthy would prefer more height at wide receiver but it was a weak year at the position and the Packers had a desperate need after letting go of Walker.

"I think he's got the ability to become a starter," new wide receivers coach Jimmy Robinson said. "I felt he can come in and contribute early. He's quick and agile. He played extremely hard. He plays big, in my opinion. And he's a pretty good route-runner. He broke tackles and made guys miss."

Hodge started 37 games in the Big Ten, one fewer than Hawk, and was responsible for the same number of turnover plays with 12. Thompson said Hodge never left the field at Iowa.

"When we watched the film he can get the ball out," new linebackers coach Winston Moss said. "We talked about him being very undersized but he is a very competitive undersized."

Hodge played alongside Chad Greenway, an outside linebacker drafted in the first round by Minnesota.

"He tackled just as well as Greenway," Moss said.

Spitz was scheduled to move from guard to center in '05 but injuries elsewhere on the line prevented it.

"He uses his hands better than anyone in the draft," Philbin said. "He's smart and very tough. He has good functional strength and uses his hands to gain separation."
The trick is trying to sift thru all the information and samples we have to project what we THINK will or could happen because most of us have our Rook drafts so early...with that said...I think that

Barnett will stay at MLB

Hawk at WLB

Roy Manning or Ben Taylor at SLB(if these 2 guys flop then there could be a shake up)

but there is a possability that if HODGE shows he belongs on the field as one of the top 3 LBs then I think it would be possible to see the following:

Hodge at MLB

Hawk at WLB

Barnett at SLB

now the reason i see it possibly playing out that way is due to the fact that Barnett has always been considered a bit small for the MLB position and Hawk fits the WLB seek and destroy perfectly...i dont think anyone would disagree that Hodge is anything but a natural MLB...in the following notice the part i bolded...that also tells me that Hawk isnt going to play SLB...but we really wont know til we know :wall:

But defensive coordinator Bob Sanders said he thought Hawk also had the potential to make plays as a blitzer. "He looks like he has the speed, the toughness, the athleticism to be a good blitzer," said Sanders. There's less reason to think that Hawk will make plays in coverage. Linebackers coach Winston Moss said that probably will be the toughest transition for Hawk. He has little experience in man-to-man coverage.

http://www.jsonline.com/blog/?id=130

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here were my thoughts on the GB linebacker situation from the draft thread

Hodge will start out backing up Nick Barnett in the middle. However, the Packers intend to play their best three linebackers, and if Roy Manning and former Brown Ben Taylor don't pan out on the strong side Hodge definitely will have a chance to start.

Several scouts said Hawk clearly would prove to be a superior linebacker in the 4-1 dime defense than Nick Barnett, who played almost every snap for the last three seasons and was no better than adequate against run and pass. Now the Packers will have two linebackers with speed and can employ more 4-2 sets on passing downs, increasing their ability to stop the run.
I think this really helps clarify things, and makes it seem as though Barnett and Hawk are pretty safe at MLB and WLB respectively. Hodge will start out as a backup at MLB, but could be moved into the starting lineup at SLB if Manning and Taylor don't work out. So, in order for the team to consider moving Hawk or Barnett to SLB, we'd likely have to see at least 3 players flop on the strong side and that seems unlikely. Adding Hodge when the team already has a quality MLB in place reminds me of what happened in Denver when they drafted Terry Pierce. When Al Wilson wound up sticking around, they eventually tried to move Pierce to SLB rather than the other way around. I think the Jets had a similar problem when they drafted Victor Hobson but had Marvin Jones at MLB and Vilma the next year. In those instances at least, the teams wound up keeping the better player at the more important position rather than moving him and risk downgrading at two positions instead of just one.So, with Hawk and Barnett clearly being considered the Packers best two linebackers, it really makes the most sense for them to stay at the two most important LB positions. Then, the team just needs to hope one of the other 3 options can hold down the SLB spot. Also, since Hawk and Barnett will be out there in the nickel package, and Hawk seems favored to play in the dime package as well, he should be very valuable no matter what spot he plays since he'll likely be out there for every snap.

As for Hodge, I think he's big enough to play on the strong side. He certainly provides great depth for the Packers even if he doesn't start right away. But, since he's likely no more than a 2-down linebacker when everybody is healthy, his fantasy upside is probably pretty minimal for the time being.

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I still think Hodge is more likely to play at SLB than Barnett

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Hodge is slower than Barnett, so I think that Barnett would be better suited for SLB. Barnett's coverage of TE's is far better than Hodge could do and his pursuit is far better. Any short coming that Hadge has w/ speed will be compensated by Hawk and Barnett's speed on the outside.
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SLBs aren't always faster than MLBs.most teams want a MLB who has the range to make plays from sideline to sideline. Hodge is only going to be a 2-down linebacker anyway, so his coverage responsibilities won't be that great.

Anyway, it's certainly a possibility that Barnett could get moved out there at some point, even if it doesn't happen until 2007. I can't argue with trying to get something for him in a trade right now, but I also wouldn't just give him away. Playing in the nickel package will allow him to still be productive.

 
I still think Hodge is more likely to play at SLB than Barnett

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Hodge is slower than Barnett, so I think that Barnett would be better suited for SLB. Barnett's coverage of TE's is far better than Hodge could do and his pursuit is far better. Any short coming that Hadge has w/ speed will be compensated by Hawk and Barnett's speed on the outside.
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SLBs aren't always faster than MLBs.most teams want a MLB who has the range to make plays from sideline to sideline. Hodge is only going to be a 2-down linebacker anyway, so his coverage responsibilities won't be that great.

Anyway, it's certainly a possibility that Barnett could get moved out there at some point, even if it doesn't happen until 2007. I can't argue with trying to get something for him in a trade right now, but I also wouldn't just give him away. Playing in the nickel package will allow him to still be productive.

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I agree! I would say that normally the MLB is one of the faster LB'er w/ the best instincts for the ball. It's been reported that Hodge plays faster than his 40 time. Like a Bruschi, who just always is around the play. Thus, I think they will just let speed on the ends. I would never give away a proven player that is/was a stud. Problems will surely occur while Barnett adapts to his new position after playing MLB so long. Will he and Hodge respond the same on plays? We'll see how it pans out soon enough...
 
Also remember that, while moving to SLB is not always ideal, it's not always a kiss of death. Many factors go into determining whether or not a player can succeed in the fantasy world while playing on the strongside and there have been some great SLB's in the past. I wouldn't touch the trade of Barnett for Scott.

 
Also remember that, while moving to SLB is not always ideal, it's not always a kiss of death. Many factors go into determining whether or not a player can succeed in the fantasy world while playing on the strongside and there have been some great SLB's in the past. I wouldn't touch the trade of Barnett for Scott.

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I'm just not sure if Hodge is the reason the Pack makes wholesale changes to the LB corps. While I think every team wants its best 3 (or 4), LB's on the field, there's something to be said for continuity. Meaning, I think teams would rather have the new guy try a position switch, and leave an established starter in his position.

I'll use the Raiders as an example:

Danny Clark was an OLB in Jax, played MLB in OAK, they draft Morrison, a MLB in college. Rather than have Clark move back to OLB, they kept him where he was, and made Morrison earn his way onto the field as an OLB.

I think it's easier for the rooks to adjust, in a sense, because everything is new to them, and I'm sure most vets don't want to mess with their comfort level. THere's always examples of vets changing spots willingly to accomodate the rook, not saying it doesn't happen, but I think coaches look at it as logically as possible.

"Geez, if Barnett moves outside, now I gotta worry about a rook WLB, a rook MLB, and a guy learning a new position on the other side."

At least with Barnett still at MLB, there's a known quantity.

 
Danny Clark was an OLB in Jax, played MLB in OAK, they draft Morrison, a MLB in college.  Rather than have Clark move back to OLB, they kept him where he was, and made Morrison earn his way onto the field as an OLB.

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Then again, Hodge may not have the skills to play anywhere but the middle. That doesn't make him a bad player, just one who's not considered when the discussion comes up about switching positions.It'll definitely be interesting, seeing how this washes out.

 
I'll use the Raiders as an example:

Danny Clark was an OLB in Jax, played MLB in OAK, they draft Morrison, a MLB in college.  Rather than have Clark move back to OLB, they kept him where he was, and made Morrison earn his way onto the field as an OLB.

I think it's easier for the rooks to adjust, in a sense, because everything is new to them, and I'm sure most vets don't want to mess with their comfort level.  THere's always examples of vets changing spots willingly to accomodate the rook,  not saying it doesn't happen, but I think coaches look at it as logically as possible.

"Geez, if Barnett moves outside, now I gotta worry about a rook WLB, a rook MLB, and a guy learning a new position on the other side."

At least with Barnett still at MLB, there's a known quantity.

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i am not sure but what happened when the colts moved Thorton to SLB...I cant remember if they had a new MLB too(bracket?) and June was a Converted S to WLB...and i think that Indy really really sucked on Def the prior yr kinda like GB did last yr...but again we just have to wait to see it play out...but imo the loser is hodge as I think he will be backing up at MLB with Manning or Leber on the Strong Side
 
Danny Clark was an OLB in Jax, played MLB in OAK, they draft Morrison, a MLB in college.  Rather than have Clark move back to OLB, they kept him where he was, and made Morrison earn his way onto the field as an OLB.

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Then again, Hodge may not have the skills to play anywhere but the middle. That doesn't make him a bad player, just one who's not considered when the discussion comes up about switching positions.It'll definitely be interesting, seeing how this washes out.

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Yep, that's the oher side of the coin. In order for it to happen, I think Hodge will have to show his play at MLB is strong enough to warrant the switch.It should be noted, I don't know which way the Pack will go, and their best 3 LB's could easily be Barnett-Hodge-Hawk, but trading a guy like Barnett, I think that thinking has to come from the idea that Hodge is just too good to take off the field. If you think Hodge is that good, the making the move makes more sense.

 
If I were the Green Bay coach, I would put Hawk on the strong side. His size, speed and ability to cover the TE make him the smart match there. Of course, this is only if Hodge starts in the middle, seemingly his ideal spot. But to me, I would think Hodge in the middle, Barnett on the weak side and Hawk on the strong side makes the most sense.

 
If I were the Green Bay coach, I would put Hawk on the strong side.  His size, speed and ability to cover the TE make him the smart match there.  Of course, this is only if Hodge starts in the middle, seemingly his ideal spot.  But to me, I would think Hodge in the middle, Barnett on the weak side and Hawk on the strong side makes the most sense.

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I actually saw a piece of news the other day from a couple years ago about how they tried Barnett at WLB and wasn't successful, then they put him at MLB and that's where he stayed last 2 years.
 
I still think Hodge is more likely to play at SLB than Barnett

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Hodge is slower than Barnett, so I think that Barnett would be better suited for SLB. Barnett's coverage of TE's is far better than Hodge could do and his pursuit is far better. Any short coming that Hadge has w/ speed will be compensated by Hawk and Barnett's speed on the outside.
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I agree. Hodge is also smaller but a good tackler and good at run stuffing. Barnett/Hodge/Hawk would be a great unit.
 
all great stuff but i would not make this trade.

1. not many MLB in 4-3s with poor offense.

2. the whole gamble depends on how good hodge is, good enough to start at MLB and make the defensive calls

3. b.scott was very productive but more when lewis was out.

all this said. it depends on your depth at LB without barnett and who you are targeting at 3.02 if he is still there. mid-season---you may be able to trade barnett for better value. my guess it hodge will be ready for MLB next season.

 
Just piggybacking on this packer thread:

Linebackers: A.J. Hawk, the fifth pick in the draft, didn’t make any eye-catching plays, but those opportunities won’t show up much until training camp, when 9-on-7 running drills and team drills are performed in pads. He appeared comfortable with the speed of the NFL game.

Ben Taylor, signed as a free agent from Cleveland, started at strong-side linebacker on Saturday and Sunday and is the front-runner for that job. Second-year pro Roy Manning started there Friday. Abdul Hodge, a third-round pick, can’t be ruled out as a possible starter if the instincts he showed in college carry over quickly to the NFL.
http://www.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_25920099.shtml
 
More:

Linebackers This much we know: Mike (middle) linebacker Nick Barnett and No. 5 overall pick A.J. Hawk, who started out at will (weak side), are going to be on the field a lot. Roy Manning, an undrafted rookie last year, and free-agent pickup Ben Taylor alternated at sam (strong side) with the No. 1 unit, but if third-round pick Abdul Hodge, who worked behind Barnett at mike, can emerge, Barnett could be a candidate to move outside.

"There were some good guys added in there," defensive coordinator Bob Sanders said. "It creates a lot of good competition, and competition breeds guys elevating their level of play. It should be interesting." •
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/ind...d=83029&ntpid=1
 
Ben Taylor, signed as a free agent from Cleveland, started at strong-side linebacker on Saturday and Sunday and is the front-runner for that job. Second-year pro Roy Manning started there Friday.
wish they would make up their freaking mind
 
so Hodge is not in their plans so far in that starting unit huh

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give it time. From what Ive seen of Hodge at Iowa, its hard to imagine him behing a bench warmer for too long. ILBs picked in the early 3rd usually get their shot eventually.
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The things that are said about Hodge remind me a lot of what was said about Zach Thomas. Not really tall or big enough and lacks speed. On the positive side, plays faster game speed, has nose for the the ball and tackles well.Hmmm...to think Hodge went earlier than Zach did and has similar traits. I think those who sit and wait might find themselves very happy for years to come.

 
so Hodge is not in their plans so far in that starting unit huh

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give it time. From what Ive seen of Hodge at Iowa, its hard to imagine him behing a bench warmer for too long. ILBs picked in the early 3rd usually get their shot eventually.
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The things that are said about Hodge remind me a lot of what was said about Zach Thomas. Not really tall or big enough and lacks speed. On the positive side, plays faster game speed, has nose for the the ball and tackles well.Hmmm...to think Hodge went earlier than Zach did and has similar traits. I think those who sit and wait might find themselves very happy for years to come.

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Hodge should be a fine player. I guess you would say he is quick not fast. Should have the instincts to make up for any lack of speed.Are you sure lack of speed was a issue with Zach? :confused:

 
WHAT ABOUT: Abdul Hodge. He's the other linebacker from Iowa, and the top-rated inside 'backer on many draft boards. Hodge didn't just pick up the nickname "The Hitman," he earned it by leading the team in tackles the past three seasons -- including 158 in 2005. Like Nande, Hodge lacks ideal size (6-1, 236) and isn't that fast (4.67 seconds in the 40). But didn't they say the same things last year about a certain middle linebacker from USC?

# 51 Lofa Tatupu Height: 5-11 Weight: 238

 
WHAT ABOUT: Abdul Hodge. He's the other linebacker from Iowa, and the top-rated inside 'backer on many draft boards. Hodge didn't just pick up the nickname "The Hitman," he earned it by leading the team in tackles the past three seasons -- including 158 in 2005. Like Nande, Hodge lacks ideal size (6-1, 236) and isn't that fast (4.67 seconds in the 40). But didn't they say the same things last year about a certain middle linebacker from USC?

# 51 Lofa Tatupu Height: 5-11 Weight: 238

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Your right ... not sure if he's quite as instinctive as Tatupu. If Hodge would have went to... say the Texans, he could have had the kind of impact Tatupu had last year. I don't see it in Green Bay with Hawk and Barnett.
 
As an Iowa alum, I am biased in my evaluation of Abdul Hodge, but here's one thing that cannot be argued against: he is a sure tackler. If he gets his hands on you, you're going down. He isn't overly impressive when you watch the games (in other words, he doesn't make the spectacular OH MY GOD plays), but he always racked up tons of tackles, so he has a nose for the football.

And Hodge is a hard tackler, as well. Many guys' bells were rung after meeting up with Abdul. He's a football player.

Green Bay should be very happy that Minnesota didn't take Hodge at the end of the 2nd round (where I think he also would have fit in nicely next to his college teammate, Chad Greenway). Hodge should be a productive LB for the Pack for many years to come - whether it's SLB or MLB.

 
As an Iowa alum, I am biased in my evaluation of Abdul Hodge, but here's one thing that cannot be argued against:  he is a sure tackler.  If he gets his hands on you, you're going down.  He isn't overly impressive when you watch the games (in other words, he doesn't make the spectacular OH MY GOD plays), but he always racked up tons of tackles, so he has a nose for the football.

And Hodge is a hard tackler, as well.  Many guys' bells were rung after meeting up with Abdul.  He's a football player.

Green Bay should be very happy that Minnesota didn't take Hodge at the end of the 2nd round (where I think he also would have fit in nicely next to his college teammate, Chad Greenway).  Hodge should be a productive LB for the Pack for many years to come - whether it's SLB or MLB.

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As a Packer fan I am but they did pick Greenway. With Hodge, Barnett and Hawk along with the other additions this D should be much improved.
 
Hodge didn't just pick up the nickname "The Hitman," he earned it by leading the team in tackles the past three seasons -- including 158 in 2005.
I thought Bob Sanders was nicknamed "The Hitman".They give that nickname out to everyone at Iowa?
 

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