Trade Committies (1 Viewer)

[RoosterScott]

I've had a ton of complaining in my league and am thinking about using a trade committiee like I did 3 years ago. The committie consisted of 3 fellow commissioners who voted on trades. I don't think any were vetoed but it did quiet the phone a bit. I can't stand when fellow owners call and complain. A recent trade in our league has brought back this topic as a guy traded Larry Fitzgerald for Doug Gabriel. It's a keeper league and it's pretty ridiculous. Give me you honest opinions. PS-I've never voided any deals but try to calm the masses when all he!! breaks loose.

 

[kncks12]

I've had a ton of complaining in my league and am thinking about using a trade committiee like I did 3 years ago. The committie consisted of 3 fellow commissioners who voted on trades. I don't think any were vetoed but it did quiet the phone a bit. I can't stand when fellow owners call and complain. A recent trade in our league has brought back this topic as a guy traded Larry Fitzgerald for Doug Gabriel. It's a keeper league and it's pretty ridiculous. Give me you honest opinions. PS-I've never voided any deals but try to calm the masses when all he!! breaks loose.

I think the owner should go for making that trade. It makes no sense. Fitz is hurt, and I could see maybe if it was a redraft, but even then it would not make sense. But, for a keeper league no sense at all. How many keepers is it?

 

[arlingtonpark27]

I'm in a league that has an external trade committee made up of 7 people. I think it is a good idea if there are questionable trades. I would like to say that make sure the people on the trade committee are knowledgeable when it comes to your league's rules and how it operates and also that they know fantasy football. Also, they need to be able to be open minded and look at deals with the proper analysis and research that is necessary for each trade, especially if keepers are allowed.

Regarding the Fitzgerald for Gabriel trade, I don't know how that is a fair trade no matter how you look at it. Have you asked the teams for the reasoning for the trade and their justification? I don't know how they would justify it though. It seems like collusion could be an issue with the trade.

 

[RoosterScott]

Up to 2. 14 team league.

 

[NoDigg41]

I enacted an independant trade committee of 3 guys I consider Fantasy Football Gurus. As Commish I have first choice to approve or deny, I have no problem vetoing trades or encouraging/mediating more fair terms. The 2nd line of defense is if another owner objects to the trade, it's sent to the trade comittee, their decision is final.

I have 1 owner, and only 1 owner, who always stirs the pot when a trade comes down he's not a part of that helps out rivals. He feels he can strong arm enough owners to overturn deals. He even called for a recount of a league vote 2 years ago when the league vote didn't go as he planned.

Bottom line, with the committee pending, he hasn't even objected to an offer this year, despite some major trade activity.

Excellent idea, and should be added to the pinned thread about Rules all leagues should have!

 

[glock]

:sigh:

 

[turnit643]

We use a three-owner trade committee. The commish (me), and two others. It works fine for us.

 

[Wingnut]

We have a trade committee of 5 people, plus one reserve member. Committee members that are involved in the trade in question do not have a say. If one of the committee members is involved in the trade in question, we use the remaining 4 plus the reserve (5 votes total). If TWO committee members are involved in the trade, the committee defaults to 3 people (reserve vote not needed).

It has worked out pretty well for us, and no trade has been vetoed by the committee. If there is no collusion, the trade usually goes through. Since we installed the committee, no one has complained about any trade.

 

[thayman]

I've had a ton of complaining in my league and am thinking about using a trade committiee like I did 3 years ago. The committie consisted of 3 fellow commissioners who voted on trades. I don't think any were vetoed but it did quiet the phone a bit. I can't stand when fellow owners call and complain. A recent trade in our league has brought back this topic as a guy traded Larry Fitzgerald for Doug Gabriel. It's a keeper league and it's pretty ridiculous. Give me you honest opinions. PS-I've never voided any deals but try to calm the masses when all he!! breaks loose.

I think the owner should go for making that trade. It makes no sense. Fitz is hurt, and I could see maybe if it was a redraft, but even then it would not make sense. But, for a keeper league no sense at all. How many keepers is it?

The only possible scenario where I could see this making any kind of sense, would be if the Fitz owner couldn't keep him next year, due to only being able to keep a player for 2 or 3 years, or whatever. He would also need to be desperate for WR help.......just my 2 cents.

 

[Polish Hammer]

Trades used to be a nightmare in my league b/c of how the objection process was structured. Plus, it drew things out and made it so that a trade had to be accepted by midnight Friday for that week (assuming the game was a Sunday game).

This year we went to a 3 man (plus two alternate) committee. We haven't had any complaints (a few questions but they were easily addressed) and we better spelled out the rules as to why a trade could/would be vetoed. These are narrow rules and we haven't had one vetoed yet. B/C of the quick turnaround, we could have a trade offered, accepted, and enacted Sunday morning for games that day. People seem to be happy with the new setup.

 

[u999spf]

I guess I am in the minority here. I do not really like the trade committees. Everyone that plays fantasy football values players differently. If you have a 3 or 5 person board those guys will view a trade 3 or 5 different ways.

If you have a trustworthy commish, you should be ok. The bottom line is that NO TRADE should ever be overturned, no matter how lopsided, unless you suspect cheating or to a lesser degree, an owner that has flat out given up and has no intentions of following through with his team.

Every owner paid their money to be a part of the league and who are you to say they can't run it as they see fit. Even if a trade looks like a very bad one, you really have no way of knowing for sure until the season plays out.

If someone traded Colston for S.Alexander after week1 people would say it's a very bad trade. What if Alexander end up not playing for the rest of the season and Colston ends up scoring 12 TD, with 1200 yards?

But if you are going to do a committee, the best way is to have people from outside your league and circle of friends make up that committee. Even then all trades shoudl still be approved unless cheating is suspected.

 

[AcerFC]

I agree with the fact that all trades should be allowed to go through unless there is no question its collusion.

We started a trade committe of 5 members a few years back when I traded K Jones (a rookie at the time) and a WR who went off in week 1 and we never heard from him again for K Barlow. The deal ended up being awful for me but because Barlow was a first rounder people were going nuts.

We enacted the commision and since then not one trade has been overturned and we have no colluders so I think the commision works. The most important thing to consider is collusion, it doesnt matter how bad we think the trade is, you cant overturn it unless there is collusion.

We know nothing about the teams that made the Fitz-Gabriel trade. Maybe their 2 keepers are LT and LJ and they can give Fitz up and need WR help this week. gabriel could put up nice numbers against Indy. Maybe the team is 3-5 and need a win and Fitz will not help that this week.

There is more to look at then just the trade in and of itself

 

[billyjoe]

The commish needs to deal with it. That's part of the job.

Best guide on the net FBGs Unfair Trade

 

[Disco Stu]

I guess I am in the minority here. I do not really like the trade committees. Everyone that plays fantasy football values players differently. If you have a 3 or 5 person board those guys will view a trade 3 or 5 different ways.If you have a trustworthy commish, you should be ok. The bottom line is that NO TRADE should ever be overturned, no matter how lopsided, unless you suspect cheating or to a lesser degree, an owner that has flat out given up and has no intentions of following through with his team.Every owner paid their money to be a part of the league and who are you to say they can't run it as they see fit. Even if a trade looks like a very bad one, you really have no way of knowing for sure until the season plays out.

We used a trade committee for a few years and it was a cluster. Evaluating the "fairness" of a trade is a huge waste of time and effort and will end up causing nothing but animosity.

 

[glumpy]

In a ten team league we have a trade committee of eight. Don't remember ever needing it more than once, maybe twice--if a trade is really off the wall the other eight give the first two so much grief that they rescind it. No need for commish involvement at all!

As for the basic premise here--I'm with the "it's a commish responsibility" crowd. That's why they make the big bucks.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Our 12 team league has a three person "rules" committee elected each year at the draft. One of the persons on the committee is the commish, so if he is involved in a dispute an alternate rules committe member steps in. All it takes is 2 out of 3 votes to approve or deny a rules or trade dispute.

The problem -

for one on one trades, it doesn't go to the rules committee unless the commish feels the trade is grossly unfair. For multiplayer trades, it has to go to the committee. Unfortunately, even if the trade is completely legit it has to be hung up waiting on a response from at least two committee members. Very frustrating to owners when a trade is turned in on Wednesday or Thursday and no decision has been made heading into Sunday games.

Edit to add: in the 15 year history of the league, no trade has ever been shot down, so from a trade committee standpoint it has been a waste of time (unless of course the existence of the committee has discouraged ridiculous trades). However, for rules interpretation it has been beneficial and has helped us to further clarify our rules.

 

[Wingnut]

for one on one trades, it doesn't go to the rules committee unless the commish feels the trade is grossly unfair. For multiplayer trades, it has to go to the committee.

This is how my league does it as well

Unfortunately, even if the trade is completely legit it has to be hung up waiting on a response from at least two committee members. Very frustrating to owners when a trade is turned in on Wednesday or Thursday and no decision has been made heading into Sunday games.

Lucky for us, we are a league of close friends, so the committee can and will discuss it by phone if need be to get a quick decision.