TRADE? I get orlando hudson and mark buehrle (1 Viewer)

[harryhood]

The top team needs stolen bases to stay competitive. he has arod and morneau so the hitting numbers are there. I need some pitching and I have not like roberts.

do i do this?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Don't like it. Not the right time to have Buehrle in any deal.

 

[avoiding injuries]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Rest assured Buerhle is a batting practice pitcher that will only help you in wins. Not Ks, not WHIP, not ERA. Yes, he threw a no hitter. Don't bite.

Orlando Hudson is a mediocre second baseman off to a hot start.

Meanwhile you give up a great young arm in Kazmir who will rack up Ks, have a decent WHIP and ERA and post a modest win total. Roberts is better than Hudson, Kazmir is significantly better than Buerhle. trust me this is the first year I have not had him in awhile and am quite thankful even with his no hitter.

 

[MrPhoenix]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

 

[pigskin pimp]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Disagree.Roberts will net you more HRs and SBs before the season is over than Hudson. Kazmir's Ks to Buerhle's Ws is a wash.Don't trade.

 

[my man otis]

The top team needs stolen bases to stay competitive. he has arod and morneau so the hitting numbers are there. I need some pitching and I have not like roberts. do i do this?

don't do it.roberts > hudsonkazmir >> buerhle

 

[Your Mother]

The top team needs stolen bases to stay competitive. he has arod and morneau so the hitting numbers are there. I need some pitching and I have not like roberts. do i do this?

don't do it.roberts > hudsonkazmir >> buerhle

Yes.Kazmir's peripherals are fine, I'd stay the course here.

 

[Greco]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

 

[my man otis]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

 

[Greco]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

 

[my man otis]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

no, sosa and palmerio weren't good, so I would say that roberts had a good year despite bad years from them.

 

[avoiding injuries]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

Dude, are you forgetting that Roberts had a SEVERE elbow injury at the end of 2005 that required surgery and he was rehabbing most of the offseason?That aside, his average did drop .028 but his strikouts went down 20%(83 to 66) and he stole 9 more bases(36). #### Sammy and #### Raphy but don't lump Roberts in with them.

 

[Greco]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

Dude, are you forgetting that Roberts had a SEVERE elbow injury at the end of 2005 that required surgery and he was rehabbing most of the offseason?That aside, his average did drop .028 but his strikouts went down 20%(83 to 66) and he stole 9 more bases(36). #### Sammy and #### Raphy but don't lump Roberts in with them.

I am not lumping him in with them....from 04 to 05 he hit 16 more HR's 20 more RBI, slug% 150pts; avg up 40 points, TB up 50 all with 100 less abs. RED CONTACT LENSES?? :lmfao: Raffy and Sammy = Xfactor?

 

[my man otis]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

Dude, are you forgetting that Roberts had a SEVERE elbow injury at the end of 2005 that required surgery and he was rehabbing most of the offseason?That aside, his average did drop .028 but his strikouts went down 20%(83 to 66) and he stole 9 more bases(36). #### Sammy and #### Raphy but don't lump Roberts in with them.

I am not lumping him in with them....from 04 to 05 he hit 16 more HR's 20 more RBI, slug% 150pts; avg up 40 points, TB up 50 all with 100 less abs. RED CONTACT LENSES?? :lmfao: Raffy and Sammy = Xfactor?

coincidence does not equal causation.

 

[Greco]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

Dude, are you forgetting that Roberts had a SEVERE elbow injury at the end of 2005 that required surgery and he was rehabbing most of the offseason?That aside, his average did drop .028 but his strikouts went down 20%(83 to 66) and he stole 9 more bases(36). #### Sammy and #### Raphy but don't lump Roberts in with them.

I am not lumping him in with them....from 04 to 05 he hit 16 more HR's 20 more RBI, slug% 150pts; avg up 40 points, TB up 50 all with 100 less abs. RED CONTACT LENSES?? :lmfao: Raffy and Sammy = Xfactor?

coincidence does not equal causation.

I don't believe his number drop off since Raffy and Sammy left is a coincidence, I think not taking steroids is the cause. Is that what you mean?

 

[avoiding injuries]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

Dude, are you forgetting that Roberts had a SEVERE elbow injury at the end of 2005 that required surgery and he was rehabbing most of the offseason?That aside, his average did drop .028 but his strikouts went down 20%(83 to 66) and he stole 9 more bases(36). #### Sammy and #### Raphy but don't lump Roberts in with them.

I am not lumping him in with them....from 04 to 05 he hit 16 more HR's 20 more RBI, slug% 150pts; avg up 40 points, TB up 50 all with 100 less abs. RED CONTACT LENSES?? :lmfao: Raffy and Sammy = Xfactor?

coincidence does not equal causation.

I don't believe his number drop off since Raffy and Sammy left is a coincidence, I think not taking steroids is the cause. Is that what you mean?

What number drop off? The .028 in average or power numbers that would obviously be affected with the injury that he had? Your numbers above are from 04 to 05. 03 was his first full season so seeing an increase in 05 should be expected. Even with the injury he didn't much of a drop off in 06. I don't see any validation in your argument, just speculation.

 

[Greco]

What's wrong with Roberts. I think you are downgrading in both positions but I don't play in a roto league and am an Orioles fan.

Whoever is taking Roberts is gambling on him being the Roberts of the past couple years when he's been more closely mimicking his pre-2005 Roberts clone. But Roberts has been playing god-awful so far, and even at the top of his game, Hudson's just about a level down from where Roberts usually is anyway.Add that to Buerhle and Kazmir being close in production, and I like the Hudson/Buehrle side better. If it's a keeper league, then I'd rank both sides about even because I like Kazmir's upside. If not, than the analysis above stands.

Roberts decline coincides with Rafael Palmeiro & Sammy Sosa leaving the team...hmmmmmmm.*coughroidscough*

what are you talking about? sosa was terrible and palmeiro was just average in 1995. you don't make any sense.

Do you think it is a coincidence Brian Roberts had the numbers he put up in 2005 and Sosa and Palmeiro both appear on Orioles roster?Or do I make so much sense it drives you sense-less?

Dude, are you forgetting that Roberts had a SEVERE elbow injury at the end of 2005 that required surgery and he was rehabbing most of the offseason?That aside, his average did drop .028 but his strikouts went down 20%(83 to 66) and he stole 9 more bases(36). #### Sammy and #### Raphy but don't lump Roberts in with them.

I am not lumping him in with them....from 04 to 05 he hit 16 more HR's 20 more RBI, slug% 150pts; avg up 40 points, TB up 50 all with 100 less abs. RED CONTACT LENSES?? :lmfao: Raffy and Sammy = Xfactor?

coincidence does not equal causation.

I don't believe his number drop off since Raffy and Sammy left is a coincidence, I think not taking steroids is the cause. Is that what you mean?

What number drop off? The .028 in average or power numbers that would obviously be affected with the injury that he had? Your numbers above are from 04 to 05. 03 was his first full season so seeing an increase in 05 should be expected. Even with the injury he didn't much of a drop off in 06. I don't see any validation in your argument, just speculation.

Look, the facts are the facts....just take a look at Miquel Tejada and his drop off in power numbers in '05 when Raffy got busted. His second half numbers in 05 leaves much room for "speculation" ....I am not hating on the O's...just the roids, and the O's just happened to house two of the bigger known abusers of the substance..Raffy and Sammy. Cheers.

 

[koby925]

The top team needs stolen bases to stay competitive. he has arod and morneau so the hitting numbers are there. I need some pitching and I have not like roberts. do i do this?

Top team is DO NOT DO THIS DEAL.