Trade offer tactic (1 Viewer)

[slackjawedyokel]

I'm wondering how others feel about a specific trade tactic that I employ sometimes. I will send an offer out and either immediately or shortly after revoke the offer. The offers are acceptable or at least close, but the old sales tactic of making people want something more by taking it away. I've had response emails that guys wanted to take the offer or at least start asking questions.

Is it tacky? Is it fair? Should the offer be valid despite not being open thru host site after being revoked? Thoughts.

 

[rickyg]

I never let offers sit out there for too long. An hour tops. But I see nothing wrong with your tactic. You're giving them a taste and the offer being official on the site for a moment makes it more real.

 

[pghrob]

I think it is fine. It's your preferred way to stimulate the trade negotiations. You could also call, text, email, etc. You offer the trade thinking it creates excitement and generates interest in the part of your suitor. If it works to get the other's attention and interest, I see no problem.

 

[AgentMulder]

I never let offers sit out there for too long. An hour tops. But I see nothing wrong with your tactic. You're giving them a taste and the offer being official on the site for a moment makes it more real.

How does anyone have time to even review that or even know they have a trade offer? Not everyone sits by their computer waiting for a trade to come in.

 

[MIMN]

I don't have a problem when someone does this. I would always include a comment about why I think it is a good trade.

That said, there are limits. If all of your trades came like this and they were frequent I would discount the seriousness of all of them and eventually ignore them. Too much of it would be a bad thing.

This is probably a better question for your league mates. If it bothers them then it is ineffective. You should have a "reason" if they ask why you do it.

 

[DropKick]

I don't have a problem when someone does this. I would always include a comment about why I think it is a good trade.

That said, there are limits. If all of your trades came like this and they were frequent I would discount the seriousness of all of them and eventually ignore them. Too much of it would be a bad thing.

This is probably a better question for your league mates. If it bothers them then it is ineffective. You should have a "reason" if they ask why you do it.

I wouldn't have a problem either... also agree that you can't keep using the same schtick. But I think the comment part can be a clumsy tactic. Something honest about your motive maybe... but an explanation on how the "trade works for them" is more likely to work against you.

 

[AgentMulder]

I do think this is a good tactic but agree with the other poster where if used too often could become ineffective.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

It only works when the offer is a fair one. It's akin, IMO, to an email offer. It's not there anymore, but they know what the offer was, and can pursue (or counter) if they liked it.

On the negative side, the owners I know that do this don't give you the same offer again. They propose a worse offer when you ask about it. It is like the first offer wasn't genuine, it was only to get you to talk so they can fleece you. "limited time offer", "you missed it", and "just seeing if you were interested" are common responses I have gotten. In fact, I don't think a single of those revoked offers have ever led to a trade on my end...

 

[elbowrm]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

 

[Gvindy]

I'm wondering how others feel about a specific trade tactic that I employ sometimes. I will send an offer out and either immediately or shortly after revoke the offer. The offers are acceptable or at least close, but the old sales tactic of making people want something more by taking it away. I've had response emails that guys wanted to take the offer or at least start asking questions.

Is it tacky? Is it fair? Should the offer be valid despite not being open thru host site after being revoked? Thoughts.

I do this too haha. I plant the seed, then when my player goes out and has a huge game(after I revoke the trade), my hope is they will try to cash in on my "insanity" and take the next offer right away next time. I feel it has worked to get some deals done...

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm not affected by this at all. I always have the I can take it or leave it attitude toward trades. I never get to the point where I have to have a certain player, or that I have to make a deal.

Case in point, I made an owner a great offer yesterday and he just had to get a little greedy and want my 2016 2nd. I walked away from it totally, because I don't care if I make that trade or not.

 

[Shane Falco]

I find it annoying. Never sure if I should resend if I liked it or the guy had second thoughts

 

[Avery]

Funny. I was just thinking about this tactic the other night.

I offered a trade I thought was fair, but was thinking about pulling it to make him want it more. Thought about it because someone pulled a trade offer I wasn't sure about and afterwards I really wanted it!

Agreed can't pull it too quick, and can't do it too often, and it must be a good deal, but it may be effective in limited use.

 

[dickey moe]

I'm wondering how others feel about a specific trade tactic that I employ sometimes. I will send an offer out and either immediately or shortly after revoke the offer. The offers are acceptable or at least close, but the old sales tactic of making people want something more by taking it away. I've had response emails that guys wanted to take the offer or at least start asking questions.

Is it tacky? Is it fair? Should the offer be valid despite not being open thru host site after being revoked? Thoughts.

I try that all the time.

 

[Run It Up]

I never let offers sit out there for too long. An hour tops. But I see nothing wrong with your tactic. You're giving them a taste and the offer being official on the site for a moment makes it more real.

How does anyone have time to even review that or even know they have a trade offer? Not everyone sits by their computer waiting for a trade to come in.

I think it was 2011 the last time I saw someone who didn't have a smartphone.

 

[jonboltz]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

If someone revokes a trade with me, I refuse to comment or discuss it with them. I occasionally will then get tells on the message board of "what did you think of the offer?", and I just tell them I have no current offers in my inbox and if they want to discuss an offer then can send one.

 

[squistion]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

Indeed it does, just wastes my time to consider an offer and then see it revoked 2 minutes later while I am still mulling it over.

I give the other party 24 hours on the offers I make. If they can't decide in that time (or at least get back to me saying they are thinking it over) then the odds are they never will accept the offer.

 

[Dizzy]

I like it, and have done things similar in talking face to face with owners, "OK then, how about if I give you TWO... ah... never mind." They always come back out of pure curiosity.

You do what you must in order to close the deal, period. Sales "tactics" can be a huge factor in making trades. A lot of guys just put the offer out there, and then take it personally when it gets rejected, or feel as though they are entitled to a response. If you want to sell a pig, you gotta put some lipstick on it and parade it around the room sometimes.

 

[biju]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

If someone revokes a trade with me, I refuse to comment or discuss it with them. I occasionally will then get tells on the message board of "what did you think of the offer?", and I just tell them I have no current offers in my inbox and if they want to discuss an offer then can send one.

Funny, I was just thinking I hope this gets popular so I can do a no-comment and actually have the tactic reverse itself.

 

[Pipes]

I much rather have someone do this than send me a completely crap offer. People defend the later by saying "I'm not going to send you my best offer right away." My thought is you want my guy don't waste my time sending me junks...I typically like the guys I draft.

 

[Hankmoody]

I never let offers sit out there for too long. An hour tops. But I see nothing wrong with your tactic. You're giving them a taste and the offer being official on the site for a moment makes it more real.

How does anyone have time to even review that or even know they have a trade offer? Not everyone sits by their computer waiting for a trade to come in.

Back in the old days, we used to have to sometimes not have a computing device in front of us 24 hours a day. In this dark age, there existed a system similar to mail, but electronic, where one could send said electronic maill to an account hosted elsewhere, and that message would be stored there waiting for the user to have the time and computer access to check it. When something important happened, or someone wanted to communicate with someone, this system allowed for the message to be delivered and sit waiting for when the recipient was able to check for new messages. Sometimes messages went unanswered for more than 12 seconds, and much consternation and fretting was frequently the result, but it was the best we could do back in 2010.

 

[meatwad1]

This is cheating. You are clearly trying to trick the other party into accepting your offer.

 

[Hankmoody]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

Indeed it does, just wastes my time to consider an offer and then see it revoked 2 minutes later while I am still mulling it over.

I give the other party 24 hours on the offers I make. If they can't decide in that time (or at least get back to me saying they are thinking it over) then the odds are they never will accept the offer.

Why would this piss you off? How is it different than getting an email with the same offer? That's not binding just like the revoked offer isn't. It has the same content, frequently with better language/formatting to understand. You can still mull it over, you can re-offer it if you like it. There's no harm in this, and it comes with the benefit that if something unexpected changes the offerer isn't hosed. Can't tell you how many leagues I have been in that have had an offer sit for a few days, the guy gets hurt, the other guy accepts it, and the league's response is "tough crap, you left the offer out there, that's on you". Or if a guy is iffy (or if he's not) and you want to make sure there's no surprise news on him but you need to get out the door to pick up the kids/wife/get to work and you can't go check the 25 sources you normally would before completing a binding trade.

To me this is a great way to reach out, let someone know what you're thinking, and see if there's initial interest.

 

[squistion]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

Indeed it does, just wastes my time to consider an offer and then see it revoked 2 minutes later while I am still mulling it over.

I give the other party 24 hours on the offers I make. If they can't decide in that time (or at least get back to me saying they are thinking it over) then the odds are they never will accept the offer.

Why would this piss you off? How is it different than getting an email with the same offer? That's not binding just like the revoked offer isn't. It has the same content, frequently with better language/formatting to understand. You can still mull it over, you can re-offer it if you like it. There's no harm in this, and it comes with the benefit that if something unexpected changes the offerer isn't hosed. Can't tell you how many leagues I have been in that have had an offer sit for a few days, the guy gets hurt, the other guy accepts it, and the league's response is "tough crap, you left the offer out there, that's on you". Or if a guy is iffy (or if he's not) and you want to make sure there's no surprise news on him but you need to get out the door to pick up the kids/wife/get to work and you can't go check the 25 sources you normally would before completing a binding trade.

To me this is a great way to reach out, let someone know what you're thinking, and see if there's initial interest.

Because it wastes my time. I have no way of knowing if the person is playing games like the OP and is really serious about the offer or made a mistake and offered the wrong player or deal. And I said I believe in an 24 time frame to decide, not a few days where a player might get injured and then the trade accepted (yes, that still could happen within the 24 hour period but I don't really recall seeing it in my leagues).

 

[cliffhuxtible]

There's a guy in our league that has done this too many times. He has difficulty getting trades done now, because his offers are regarded as tenuous and not serious. I'd much rather receive an informal email that is not a formal offer but rather a question regarding my interest in putting something together involving PLAYER A for PLAYER B, etc. I don't like written offers that aren't real.

 

[Hankmoody]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

Indeed it does, just wastes my time to consider an offer and then see it revoked 2 minutes later while I am still mulling it over.

I give the other party 24 hours on the offers I make. If they can't decide in that time (or at least get back to me saying they are thinking it over) then the odds are they never will accept the offer.

Why would this piss you off? How is it different than getting an email with the same offer? That's not binding just like the revoked offer isn't. It has the same content, frequently with better language/formatting to understand. You can still mull it over, you can re-offer it if you like it. There's no harm in this, and it comes with the benefit that if something unexpected changes the offerer isn't hosed. Can't tell you how many leagues I have been in that have had an offer sit for a few days, the guy gets hurt, the other guy accepts it, and the league's response is "tough crap, you left the offer out there, that's on you". Or if a guy is iffy (or if he's not) and you want to make sure there's no surprise news on him but you need to get out the door to pick up the kids/wife/get to work and you can't go check the 25 sources you normally would before completing a binding trade.

To me this is a great way to reach out, let someone know what you're thinking, and see if there's initial interest.

Because it wastes my time. I have no way of knowing if the person is playing games like the OP and is really serious about the offer or made a mistake and offered the wrong player or deal. And I said I believe in an 24 time frame to decide, not a few days where a player might get injured and then the trade accepted (yes, that still could happen within the 24 hour period but I don't really recall seeing it in my leagues).

And how is this different that getting an email or text with the same offer?

 

[BigBlue_RI]

I like this tactic idea but I'd only do it with an owner who has player(s) I really want and would do it once ad not again for a long time.

 

[T with T]

I'm wondering how others feel about a specific trade tactic that I employ sometimes. I will send an offer out and either immediately or shortly after revoke the offer. The offers are acceptable or at least close, but the old sales tactic of making people want something more by taking it away. I've had response emails that guys wanted to take the offer or at least start asking questions.

Is it tacky? Is it fair? Should the offer be valid despite not being open thru host site after being revoked? Thoughts.

I like that tactic, I have used that in the past and I also will throw multiple trades out to the league hoping for a bite. The more offers you throw out there, the more likelyhood someone will bite. The guys that sit on their hands are the ones not getting into the action.

 

[T with T]

I never let offers sit out there for too long. An hour tops. But I see nothing wrong with your tactic. You're giving them a taste and the offer being official on the site for a moment makes it more real.

How does anyone have time to even review that or even know they have a trade offer? Not everyone sits by their computer waiting for a trade to come in.

it's called something like an EMAIL account or something, it's very new have u ever heard?

 

[squistion]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

Indeed it does, just wastes my time to consider an offer and then see it revoked 2 minutes later while I am still mulling it over.

I give the other party 24 hours on the offers I make. If they can't decide in that time (or at least get back to me saying they are thinking it over) then the odds are they never will accept the offer.

Why would this piss you off? How is it different than getting an email with the same offer? That's not binding just like the revoked offer isn't. It has the same content, frequently with better language/formatting to understand. You can still mull it over, you can re-offer it if you like it. There's no harm in this, and it comes with the benefit that if something unexpected changes the offerer isn't hosed. Can't tell you how many leagues I have been in that have had an offer sit for a few days, the guy gets hurt, the other guy accepts it, and the league's response is "tough crap, you left the offer out there, that's on you". Or if a guy is iffy (or if he's not) and you want to make sure there's no surprise news on him but you need to get out the door to pick up the kids/wife/get to work and you can't go check the 25 sources you normally would before completing a binding trade.

To me this is a great way to reach out, let someone know what you're thinking, and see if there's initial interest.

Because it wastes my time. I have no way of knowing if the person is playing games like the OP and is really serious about the offer or made a mistake and offered the wrong player or deal. And I said I believe in an 24 time frame to decide, not a few days where a player might get injured and then the trade accepted (yes, that still could happen within the 24 hour period but I don't really recall seeing it in my leagues).

And how is this different that getting an email or text with the same offer?

I got the time to think it over before I respond, I am not given that luxury with an offer pulled immediately after it is made, because it may have well been a mistake or some jerk playing games with me. Generally, from my experience, people who send emails are much more serious than the "Now you see it, now you don't" crowd.

 

[T with T]

Funny. I was just thinking about this tactic the other night.

I offered a trade I thought was fair, but was thinking about pulling it to make him want it more. Thought about it because someone pulled a trade offer I wasn't sure about and afterwards I really wanted it!

Agreed can't pull it too quick, and can't do it too often, and it must be a good deal, but it may be effective in limited use.

so basically it's like anything in life. To much of anything is never a good thing. My buddy at work always used to tell me to much of anything will kill ya. To much sweets, to much P**** to much excitement, etc. MODERATION is the key and like others have said the deals have to be very fair on both side to keen the interests. If someone sent me a lopsided trade and then revoked I would just be happy they pulled it off before I had to waste time REJECTING. Good points though from all involved and will work if used effectively.

 

[rickyg]

I never let offers sit out there for too long. An hour tops. But I see nothing wrong with your tactic. You're giving them a taste and the offer being official on the site for a moment makes it more real.

How does anyone have time to even review that or even know they have a trade offer? Not everyone sits by their computer waiting for a trade to come in.

In my leagues when you send a trade offer on the website it also generates an email to the other side of the trade.

 

[Hankmoody]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

Indeed it does, just wastes my time to consider an offer and then see it revoked 2 minutes later while I am still mulling it over.

I give the other party 24 hours on the offers I make. If they can't decide in that time (or at least get back to me saying they are thinking it over) then the odds are they never will accept the offer.

Why would this piss you off? How is it different than getting an email with the same offer? That's not binding just like the revoked offer isn't. It has the same content, frequently with better language/formatting to understand. You can still mull it over, you can re-offer it if you like it. There's no harm in this, and it comes with the benefit that if something unexpected changes the offerer isn't hosed. Can't tell you how many leagues I have been in that have had an offer sit for a few days, the guy gets hurt, the other guy accepts it, and the league's response is "tough crap, you left the offer out there, that's on you". Or if a guy is iffy (or if he's not) and you want to make sure there's no surprise news on him but you need to get out the door to pick up the kids/wife/get to work and you can't go check the 25 sources you normally would before completing a binding trade.

To me this is a great way to reach out, let someone know what you're thinking, and see if there's initial interest.

Because it wastes my time. I have no way of knowing if the person is playing games like the OP and is really serious about the offer or made a mistake and offered the wrong player or deal. And I said I believe in an 24 time frame to decide, not a few days where a player might get injured and then the trade accepted (yes, that still could happen within the 24 hour period but I don't really recall seeing it in my leagues).

And how is this different that getting an email or text with the same offer?

I got the time to think it over before I respond, I am not given that luxury with an offer pulled immediately after it is made, because it may have well been a mistake or some jerk playing games with me. Generally, from my experience, people who send emails are much more serious than the "Now you see it, now you don't" crowd.

But you are. There's nothing preventing you from offering the exact same offer that was just revoked. If they are playing games they could do the same via email or text. Seems you're making a snap decision based on perceived intent rather than looking at the person behind the offer and giving them the benefit of the doubt.

eta: Don't most trades do back and forth anyway? How often does a first offer that the other guy offered get accepted?

 

[tunamelt warrior]

There's a guy in our league that has done this too many times. He has difficulty getting trades done now, because his offers are regarded as tenuous and not serious. I'd much rather receive an informal email that is not a formal offer but rather a question regarding my interest in putting something together involving PLAYER A for PLAYER B, etc. I don't like written offers that aren't real.

I also have a guy in my league that does this regularly. He NEVER gets any trades done, because everyone sees through this schtick at this point. I don't like it, because it's a ####-tease and time-waster. If you aren't going to leave the trade up and stand behind it for at least one day, don't bother me. I see nothing wrong with sending a text or email with interest and/or potential offers though...

 

[T with T]

This is cheating. You are clearly trying to trick the other party into accepting your offer.

How is it cheating??? that was a far fetched on their Meatwad. Tricking? they still have the say so if they want to do the trade or not. Dumb post.

 

[Nugget]

I just ignore the offer. Seems like you are just fishing for more information about how i value players, and I am not usually interested in sharing. I prefer a text and we can work something out together.

 

[jandyt]

I have a guy who throws out offers and immediately revokes a lot in my league. I pretty much ignore those offers now. That said I have made trades with him but they never were simulated by a revoked offer. Don't see anything wrong with doing it but if you do it a lot I could see the offers just being completely ignored.

 

[squistion]

There's a guy in our league that has done this too many times. He has difficulty getting trades done now, because his offers are regarded as tenuous and not serious. I'd much rather receive an informal email that is not a formal offer but rather a question regarding my interest in putting something together involving PLAYER A for PLAYER B, etc. I don't like written offers that aren't real.

I also have a guy in my league that does this regularly. He NEVER gets any trades done, because everyone sees through this schtick at this point. I don't like it, because it's a ####-tease and time-waster. If you aren't going to leave the trade up and stand behind it for at least one day, don't bother me. I see nothing wrong with sending a text or email with interest and/or potential offers though...

Agree completely with both of the above posts.

 

[Riffraff]

Not a fan of it generally. I just assume the sender got cold feet and pulled the offer.

If it's a rip off offer, it's just a waste of time.

Agree with the poster that mentioned not having time to review a quickly pulled offer. Plenty of jobs (teachers, medical staff, security clearances, etc) that are just too busy working to look at FF offers during the day or shift.

And for the "everyone having a smartphone" type comments. Talk to Andrew Luck...

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

I feel bad for idiots that think this works on ANYONE.

 

[JohnnyU]

I believe most who do this have either A.D.D, or Tourette Syndrome.

 

[Gvindy]

There's a guy in our league that has done this too many times. He has difficulty getting trades done now, because his offers are regarded as tenuous and not serious. I'd much rather receive an informal email that is not a formal offer but rather a question regarding my interest in putting something together involving PLAYER A for PLAYER B, etc. I don't like written offers that aren't real.

I agree if you never follow through with a trade this could be the case. I think you have to have a track record of following through on a few. It's negotiation though people, we're in this to win right? Also I give them an hour or so to look it over, if not I move on...Also I spell it out in the note "I noticed you are thin at RB, I'm thin at WR etc, etc"

 

[massraider]

I never let offers sit out there for too long. An hour tops. But I see nothing wrong with your tactic. You're giving them a taste and the offer being official on the site for a moment makes it more real.

How does anyone have time to even review that or even know they have a trade offer? Not everyone sits by their computer waiting for a trade to come in.

Back in the old days, we used to have to sometimes not have a computing device in front of us 24 hours a day. In this dark age, there existed a system similar to mail, but electronic, where one could send said electronic maill to an account hosted elsewhere, and that message would be stored there waiting for the user to have the time and computer access to check it. When something important happened, or someone wanted to communicate with someone, this system allowed for the message to be delivered and sit waiting for when the recipient was able to check for new messages. Sometimes messages went unanswered for more than 12 seconds, and much consternation and fretting was frequently the result, but it was the best we could do back in 2010.

Big fan of Hank Moody explaining things to Agent Mulder.

 

[Avery]

I feel bad for idiots that think this works on ANYONE.

In a bit of a broader sense, anyone who does some sort of negotiating on a professional basis knows that using psychological tactics can have its place and use in negotiations. Fantasy football is no different.The hard part is to assess which tactics will work for which people and in what context and to use them appropriately. It's a skill in and of itself. What may work in a face to face negotiation won't necessarily work via email, for example.

And for those who think that anyone employing broader tactics in a negotiation of any sort is an "idiot", you're the one who is simply leaving chips on the table by not using all available tools to pull off a trade to better your team to the benefit to everyone else in your league.

 

[JohnnyU]

I feel bad for idiots that think this works on ANYONE.

In a bit of a broader sense, anyone who does some sort of negotiating on a professional basis knows that using psychological tactics can have its place and use in negotiations. Fantasy football is no different.The hard part is to assess which tactics will work for which people and in what context and to use them appropriately. It's a skill in and of itself. What may work in a face to face negotiation won't necessarily work via email, for example.

And for those who think that anyone employing broader tactics in a negotiation of any sort is an "idiot", you're the one who is simply leaving chips on the table by not using all available tools to pull off a trade to better your team to the benefit to everyone else in your league.

How weak minded do you have to be in order for this to work?

 

[Avery]

I feel bad for idiots that think this works on ANYONE.

In a bit of a broader sense, anyone who does some sort of negotiating on a professional basis knows that using psychological tactics can have its place and use in negotiations. Fantasy football is no different.The hard part is to assess which tactics will work for which people and in what context and to use them appropriately. It's a skill in and of itself. What may work in a face to face negotiation won't necessarily work via email, for example.

And for those who think that anyone employing broader tactics in a negotiation of any sort is an "idiot", you're the one who is simply leaving chips on the table by not using all available tools to pull off a trade to better your team to the benefit to everyone else in your league.

How weak minded do you have to be in order for this to work?

Tactics like this are used all the time in professional negotiations.

No one is saying it's a Jedi mind trick where you can throw out a crappy offer and revoking it will make someone take a crappy offer, but using tactics such as this, again using them properly and to the right degree, can help swing a deal that someone was vacillating on.

 

[Avery]

I don't even think it should be that controversial that tactics like this can have an effect unless in a larger sense you don't think people are prone to psychological manipulation.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I just ignore the offer. Seems like you are just fishing for more information about how i value players, and I am not usually interested in sharing. I prefer a text and we can work something out together.

Trying to figure this one out... Fishing for info on how you value players. Isn't that the ultimate goal if two teams are trying to make a deal? I don't mind telling another owner that I like a guy for certain reasons or dislike another, etc. That's how you each find that line to meet at.

 

[FUBAR]

I just ignore the offer. Seems like you are just fishing for more information about how i value players, and I am not usually interested in sharing. I prefer a text and we can work something out together.

Trying to figure this one out... Fishing for info on how you value players. Isn't that the ultimate goal if two teams are trying to make a deal? I don't mind telling another owner that I like a guy for certain reasons or dislike another, etc. That's how you each find that line to meet at.

When this has happened to me I assume the guy isn't sure he wants to make the deal. If it's something I like I'll usually respond with an email but if it didn't meet a need, I'll ignore it.

 

[Pipes]

I used to do stuff like this until I realized that it just pisses people off - now I won't send out an offer unless I am comfortable leaving it up for 24 hours.

Indeed it does, just wastes my time to consider an offer and then see it revoked 2 minutes later while I am still mulling it over.

I give the other party 24 hours on the offers I make. If they can't decide in that time (or at least get back to me saying they are thinking it over) then the odds are they never will accept the offer.

Why would this piss you off? How is it different than getting an email with the same offer? That's not binding just like the revoked offer isn't. It has the same content, frequently with better language/formatting to understand. You can still mull it over, you can re-offer it if you like it. There's no harm in this, and it comes with the benefit that if something unexpected changes the offerer isn't hosed. Can't tell you how many leagues I have been in that have had an offer sit for a few days, the guy gets hurt, the other guy accepts it, and the league's response is "tough crap, you left the offer out there, that's on you". Or if a guy is iffy (or if he's not) and you want to make sure there's no surprise news on him but you need to get out the door to pick up the kids/wife/get to work and you can't go check the 25 sources you normally would before completing a binding trade.

To me this is a great way to reach out, let someone know what you're thinking, and see if there's initial interest.

Because it wastes my time. I have no way of knowing if the person is playing games like the OP and is really serious about the offer or made a mistake and offered the wrong player or deal. And I said I believe in an 24 time frame to decide, not a few days where a player might get injured and then the trade accepted (yes, that still could happen within the 24 hour period but I don't really recall seeing it in my leagues).

And how is this different that getting an email or text with the same offer?

In my league there is quite a bit if back and forth via email so if I'm busy at work I just ignore it. Trades come through differently than general email so they always get my attention.