Trade Review (1 Viewer)

[Pittsburgh P]

Please review the legitimacy of this trade.

12 team keeper league.

Can keep ONE Franchise Player for no charge.

Can keep ONE Protected Player for cost of draft pick 3 rounds higher than player was drafted the year before.

We allow trading of draft picks one season in advance.

Trade deadline at start of NFL games Week 10.

Team A trades

Owen Daniels and Marques Colston

to

Team B

for Donald Lee and

Frank Gore after the conclusion of the 2008-2009 season

Ostensibly, Team A would then make Frank Gore his Franchise Player for next season.

There is nothing in our rules specifically prohibiting this.

Of course, if you need any additional information, ask and I'll provide.

Thanks in advance for the input!

 

[Modog814]

Please review the legitimacy of this trade.

12 team keeper league.

Can keep ONE Franchise Player for no charge.

Can keep ONE Protected Player for cost of draft pick 3 rounds higher than player was drafted the year before.

We allow trading of draft picks one season in advance.

Trade deadline at start of NFL games Week 10.

Team A trades

Owen Daniels and Marques Colston

to

Team B

for Donald Lee and

Frank Gore after the conclusion of the 2008-2009 season

Ostensibly, Team A would then make Frank Gore his Franchise Player for next season.

There is nothing in our rules specifically prohibiting this.

Of course, if you need any additional information, ask and I'll provide.

Thanks in advance for the input!

I would not allow this. It looks like collusion to me. They've effectively combined rosters for a couple weeks.What would stop another team from trading ALL of their best players to a contending team in exchange for all of the contending teams best players at the end of the season.

 

[Topes]

Collusion.

No frontsies. No backsies. No reacharounds.

 

[george]

Our unwritten rule (and we have written rules) is that all players must be moved at the time of the trade. Future considerations can only include picks, Not players.

 

[Pittsburgh P]

Thanks for the replies so far.

I'm kind of looking for reasons why the trade should be disallowed or allowed, the reasoning behind it.

 

[daveandken]

Thanks for the replies so far.I'm kind of looking for reasons why the trade should be disallowed or allowed, the reasoning behind it.

I would hope that player sharing is not allowed.... Seems very cut and dry.

 

[george]

My reasoning is that the trade has to be completed at once. All parts change hands at the same time.

You can give the future pick immediately when trading picks and players. You can't hold a player until later. What if Gore blows out a knee next week?

 

[GoRaiders]

This is a easy trade to reject. You can't do the for a player to be named later, or in this case, Gore at the end of the season routine.

If you think Owen Daniels and Colston 4 Lee is a fair trade and then at season's end a separate trade of Gore 4 Absolutely nothing is fair, then allow the trade, since this is effectively what has transpired.

 

[FantasyTrader]

There is nothing in our rules specifically prohibiting this.

Then it's allowed. If the league doesn't like it, adopt a rule preventing it next year.

 

[FFdork]

There is nothing in our rules specifically prohibiting this.

Then it's allowed. If the league doesn't like it, adopt a rule preventing it next year.

I completely disagree in most cases. Crap like this is part of why leagues have a commish who has the right to use some judgment. Most leagues are for fun and maybe a little cash, but occasionally there's some jerk that values winning above all else and goes lawyer on the rulebook to find loopholes to win. Most people don't want to have to consult with a legal team to create a 50 page rulebook for their $40 buy in league.The only place where I think these 'well, there's technically no rule against it' moves are potentially fair game are ultra-competitive, cut throat high stakes leagues. You better dot your Is and cross your Ts in those leagues.

 

[FantasyTrader]

There is nothing in our rules specifically prohibiting this.

Then it's allowed. If the league doesn't like it, adopt a rule preventing it next year.

I completely disagree in most cases. Crap like this is part of why leagues have a commish who has the right to use some judgment. Most leagues are for fun and maybe a little cash, but occasionally there's some jerk that values winning above all else and goes lawyer on the rulebook to find loopholes to win. Most people don't want to have to consult with a legal team to create a 50 page rulebook for their $40 buy in league.The only place where I think these 'well, there's technically no rule against it' moves are potentially fair game are ultra-competitive, cut throat high stakes leagues. You better dot your Is and cross your Ts in those leagues.

I hear ya. I don't want to argue about it. I'm a "green" personality that's a stickler for the rules. To me rules are rules. But again, that's just my personality. You sound like you have some strong feelings on the subject so let's say you're right and I'm wrong.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

There may be nothing in the rules prohibiting this, but if there is a rule giving you the power to veto, then by all mean you can screw them the way they just screwed the league.

 

[Nate]

That's player renting according to my rules. Players must change hands at the time of the trade. In my league that classifies as collusion and would be immediately disallowed. If it's not stated clearly in your rules you're likely to have some ticked off GMs regardless of your ruling. Ambiguous rules often put commissioners in tough spots. Good luck.

 

[Road Warriors]

There is nothing in our rules specifically prohibiting this.

Then it's allowed. If the league doesn't like it, adopt a rule preventing it next year.

I completely disagree in most cases. Crap like this is part of why leagues have a commish who has the right to use some judgment. Most leagues are for fun and maybe a little cash, but occasionally there's some jerk that values winning above all else and goes lawyer on the rulebook to find loopholes to win. Most people don't want to have to consult with a legal team to create a 50 page rulebook for their $40 buy in league.The only place where I think these 'well, there's technically no rule against it' moves are potentially fair game are ultra-competitive, cut throat high stakes leagues. You better dot your Is and cross your Ts in those leagues.

I expect the commissioner has broad powers to rule over situations not covered in the rules. This is one such situation, IMO. The future considerations portion of this trade would not be allowed in my leagues, regardless of a specific rule against it. And a rule would the be added to clarify allowable trades.

 

[glumpy]

Thanks for the replies so far.I'm kind of looking for reasons why the trade should be disallowed or allowed, the reasoning behind it.

disallowed--the trade is not completed before your week 10 deadline.