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This was a question to ESPN's Jeremy Green on a chat today. It is Insider material, so I can't link it. He was asked about teams that are interested in Lelie. he mentioned a couple and then said Jax was also interested and Greg Jones could be the bait. As a player that is somewhat similar to Dayne, I'm not sure why this makes sense for Denver, unless they don't believe in Dayne at all.

 
As a player that is somewhat similar to Dayne, I'm not sure why this makes sense for Denver, unless they don't believe in Dayne at all.
I think it makes perfect sense for DEN.They believe they are close to a superbowl with or without Lelie and with a team that close why put up with the distraction of having him around? Will he report? Is he happy? Will he start until Walker is up to full speed? If he plays well is there any chance they give him the extension he seeks?

I'm not the Dayne-hater so many are but even I'll admit he's still unproven without much to back him up. If Dayne is a bust I'm not convinced Bell can be the one and only guy in the DEN backfield but more importantly it sounds like DEN coaches aren't convinced he can be.

The strange part of that rumor is why would JAX be so willing to give up Jones? He compliments Taylor/Drew/Pearman/Toefield pretty well. If they pulled the trigger on this trade they'd be sacrificing what may be their best between the tackles runner on the team. I do think Lelie would be the best WR on JAX though.

 
This was a question to ESPN's Jeremy Green on a chat today. It is Insider material, so I can't link it. He was asked about teams that are interested in Lelie. he mentioned a couple and then said Jax was also interested and Greg Jones could be the bait. As a player that is somewhat similar to Dayne, I'm not sure why this makes sense for Denver, unless they don't believe in Dayne at all.
Shanny isn't that interested in Jones. Doesn't mean that this deal won't get done, but so far I'm hearing NOTHING with Jacksonville.
 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.

 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
Uh, Lelie doesn't have that much value. He can't run routes and expects to be paid like a top WR. Denver would be lucky to get anything more than a 5th-round pick in exchange for the subpar Lelie.
 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
I don't know that I believe it at all, but Jones seems to be worth more than Lelie, or at least equal. I understand what you're saying, but it seems Denver would take anything of value for him at this point.

 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
Uh, Lelie doesn't have that much value. He can't run routes and expects to be paid like a top WR. Denver would be lucky to get anything more than a 5th-round pick in exchange for the subpar Lelie.
DEN should be negotiating with BAL and Ozzie. BAL didn't have to give up anything for McNair and they still opted to give up too high a draft pick. BAL is also deep at TE.
 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
Uh, Lelie doesn't have that much value. He can't run routes and expects to be paid like a top WR. Denver would be lucky to get anything more than a 5th-round pick in exchange for the subpar Lelie.
DEN should be negotiating with BAL and Ozzie. BAL didn't have to give up anything for McNair and they still opted to give up too high a draft pick. BAL is also deep at TE.
I doubt Lelie would extend as a #3
 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
Uh, Lelie doesn't have that much value. He can't run routes and expects to be paid like a top WR. Denver would be lucky to get anything more than a 5th-round pick in exchange for the subpar Lelie.
DEN should be negotiating with BAL and Ozzie. BAL didn't have to give up anything for McNair and they still opted to give up too high a draft pick. BAL is also deep at TE.
Did I miss something?Baltimore Ravens' Depth Chart

QB Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, Brian St. Pierre, Drew Olson

RB Jamal Lewis, Mike Anderson, Musa Smith (RFA), P.J. Daniels, B.J. Sams (KR/PR)

FB Justin Green, Ovie Mughelli

WR Derrick Mason, Mark Clayton, Clarence Moore, Devard Darling, Demetrius Williams, Ronald Bellamy, Romby Bryant, Rufus Skillern, Brian Bratton, Tre Moses

TE Todd Heap, Daniel Wilcox, Quinn Sypniewksi

Where's that depth?

I'm not saying Baltimore wouldn't show an interest, but where is the TE depth???

 
I'm not saying Baltimore wouldn't show an interest, but where is the TE depth???
I think Wilcox is better than any TE currently on DEN's roster. And better than any TE on DEN's roster last season for that matter.
 
Uhhh reality check people.

What the heck has Greg Jones done? Had a few good games filling in for Fred Taylor? Give me a break. I like Greg Jones. Thought he was a great back at FSU.

But Lelie has done much more than Jones thus far at their respective positions.

That is a fair deal if it even happens. Which I doubt. But you never know.

My money is on Bell finally being the guy in Denver. Dayne is pure crap, and will be the guy who spells Bell.

Jones will be nothing more than a goalline back for Jax this season. Fred Taylor is the man for the Jaguars this season.

 
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Uhhh reality check people.

What the heck has Greg Jones done? Had a few good games filling in for Fred Taylor? Give me a break. I like Greg Jones. Thought he was a great back at FSU.

But Lelie has done much more than Jones thus far at their respective positions.

That is a fair deal if it even happens. Which I doubt. But you never know.

My money is on Bell finally being the guy in Denver. Dayne is pure crap, and will be the guy who spells Bell.

Jones will be nothing more than a goalline back for Jax this season. Fred Taylor is the man for the Jaguars this season.
Are you kidding? Hit the showers son. :thumbdown:
 
One reason this deal doesn't make sense to me...Jax is much more of a grinding team than an air it out team. Due to that I don't see how this deal makes much sense unless they have come to the conclusion that it's not going to happen with Reggie Williams and they feel they really need help/depth at wideout. While I'm not a huge Jones fan he's currently valuable depth for Jax and the style Del Rio likes to play. He's a tough runner that helps Jax establish a physical brand of ball. If Taylor went down and Jones wasn't around it would really change the dynamic of their offense because while Pearman, Toefield and Drew have upside I'm not sure they can do what Jax likes to do on a regular basis.

 
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This was a question to ESPN's Jeremy Green on a chat today. It is Insider material, so I can't link it. He was asked about teams that are interested in Lelie. he mentioned a couple and then said Jax was also interested and Greg Jones could be the bait. As a player that is somewhat similar to Dayne, I'm not sure why this makes sense for Denver, unless they don't believe in Dayne at all.
Question is: did Jeremy hear that or just make it up a possible scenario?
 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
Uh, Lelie doesn't have that much value. He can't run routes and expects to be paid like a top WR. Denver would be lucky to get anything more than a 5th-round pick in exchange for the subpar Lelie.
DEN should be negotiating with BAL and Ozzie. BAL didn't have to give up anything for McNair and they still opted to give up too high a draft pick. BAL is also deep at TE.
Did I miss something?Baltimore Ravens' Depth Chart

QB Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, Brian St. Pierre, Drew Olson

RB Jamal Lewis, Mike Anderson, Musa Smith (RFA), P.J. Daniels, B.J. Sams (KR/PR)

FB Justin Green, Ovie Mughelli

WR Derrick Mason, Mark Clayton, Clarence Moore, Devard Darling, Demetrius Williams, Ronald Bellamy, Romby Bryant, Rufus Skillern, Brian Bratton, Tre Moses

TE Todd Heap, Daniel Wilcox, Quinn Sypniewksi

Where's that depth?

I'm not saying Baltimore wouldn't show an interest, but where is the TE depth???
Wilcox is better than quite a few starting TEs in this league right now.
 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
Uh, Lelie doesn't have that much value. He can't run routes and expects to be paid like a top WR. Denver would be lucky to get anything more than a 5th-round pick in exchange for the subpar Lelie.
5th rounder? Uh, don't think they'll give him up for that cheap even though they're fed up with him.
 
This was a question to ESPN's Jeremy Green on a chat today. It is Insider material, so I can't link it. He was asked about teams that are interested in Lelie. he mentioned a couple and then said Jax was also interested and Greg Jones could be the bait. As a player that is somewhat similar to Dayne, I'm not sure why this makes sense for Denver, unless they don't believe in Dayne at all.
Question is: did Jeremy hear that or just make it up a possible scenario?
my money's on making it up. The deal just doesn't make sense and Jones is not a "shanahan guy".
 
They are looking at the wrong Jones. Thomas is the one they need to try and swap Lelie with. Thomas would be a monster in Denver.

 
They are looking at the wrong Jones. Thomas is the one they need to try and swap Lelie with. Thomas would be a monster in Denver.
Now this makes sense and the value is much closer. Don't know if it does from a contractual standpoint though.
 
If Denver believes they can make any RB shine and that they're a dime a dozen, I can't see how G. Jones even comes close to equating to the potential value of Lelie.
Uh, Lelie doesn't have that much value. He can't run routes and expects to be paid like a top WR. Denver would be lucky to get anything more than a 5th-round pick in exchange for the subpar Lelie.
DEN should be negotiating with BAL and Ozzie. BAL didn't have to give up anything for McNair and they still opted to give up too high a draft pick. BAL is also deep at TE.
Did I miss something?Baltimore Ravens' Depth Chart

QB Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, Brian St. Pierre, Drew Olson

RB Jamal Lewis, Mike Anderson, Musa Smith (RFA), P.J. Daniels, B.J. Sams (KR/PR)

FB Justin Green, Ovie Mughelli

WR Derrick Mason, Mark Clayton, Clarence Moore, Devard Darling, Demetrius Williams, Ronald Bellamy, Romby Bryant, Rufus Skillern, Brian Bratton, Tre Moses

TE Todd Heap, Daniel Wilcox, Quinn Sypniewksi

Where's that depth?

I'm not saying Baltimore wouldn't show an interest, but where is the TE depth???
Wilcox is better than quite a few starting TEs in this league right now.
I think that's more an indictment of the TE talent pool than an endorsement for Wilcox. I don't want to hijack, but Wilcox won't scare many defensive coordinators, but then again neither would Robert Royal or Reggie Kelly.Back on track - Lelie - I could see a few teams hurting at WR2 with interest, but there's also a lot of coachspeak this offseason pimping the "need for more than one back" philosophy (see KC / LJ / 500 carries comments).

That would lead to many teams wanting at least 2 solid backs if possible, which greatly diminishes the chances of a WR for a RB trade. It would be more plausible for a 3rd-RB on the depth chart, maybe an Adrian Peterson for Lelie trade, but who knows if that would fly with Denver.

As for TE, Cec knows more than I what's goin' down in Colorado, but I would think they're giving Alexander and Scheffler every opportunity to perform at TE this year. Lelie for a TE (New England / Graham?) would be an interesting thought as well.

Of course I'm just speculating.

 
It's so hard to gauge Lelie's value I can't decide if this is even reasonable. I'd think Jax would give up a RB in trade, they got enough of em', but do they need another young WR?

 
It's so hard to gauge Lelie's value I can't decide if this is even reasonable. I'd think Jax would give up a RB in trade, they got enough of em', but do they need another young WR?
I agree that Jax would be willing to give up a back, but Pearman or Toe would make more sense for them.
 
Wilcox is better than quite a few starting TEs in this league right now.
No he's not. I mean he's like Visanthe Shiancoe and Kris Wilson now. Alot of folks felt that way but what's he done?Heap played just 6 games in 04 and yet what did Wilcox do? He's had two pretty good games and the rest stinkers.

Last year a couple supposed quality backup TEs from the Ravens went to San Fran. They did nothing. IIRC One was cut from NFLE and the other is likely out with Davis comin' to town.

People have a weird obsession with excellent TEs backups, making them better than they are. Just a week ago there's a Manu thread here about how great he's been in practice and his soft hands. It's funny because he stunk in STL but now that he's Gates' backup he's "special"? Cmon

:rant over:

 
They are looking at the wrong Jones.  Thomas is the one they need to try and swap Lelie with.  Thomas would be a monster in Denver.
Now this makes sense and the value is much closer. Don't know if it does from a contractual standpoint though.
Thomas Jones is due to make $2,250,000 this year and $2,225,000 in 2007. Lelie is due to make $600,000 this year and $725,000 next year. So the #s are pretty far apart but both players want new contracts anyway, so I dont really think that would stop it. This is all speculation on my part but Ive been saying for over a month that this would be the perfect trade as Denver needs a RB that can handle 320-350 carries and Chicago needs another good WR badly.
 
It's so hard to gauge Lelie's value I can't decide if this is even reasonable. I'd think Jax would give up a RB in trade, they got enough of em', but do they need another young WR?
I agree that Jax would be willing to give up a back, but Pearman or Toe would make more sense for them.
Toe would have been a lock IMO but he's been great this spring, shocked them, and sorta messed up whatever sense of depth we had for them. No link but KFFL, Blogger, or Google have a bunch on him doing so well
 
That would lead to many teams wanting at least 2 solid backs if possible, which greatly diminishes the chances of a WR for a RB trade.  It would be more plausible for a 3rd-RB on the depth chart, maybe an Adrian Peterson for Lelie trade, but who knows if that would fly with Denver. 
I disagree with you here Jeff. There will be plenty of available 3rd RBs following the start of training camps. Lelie hasn't blown anyone away obviously, and his attitude is no doubt hurting his trade value. But, he has shown flashes of being a good if not great receiver at times. There are way more than a couple of teams that would think that they could use him and they'll pay more than a 5th unless they just think Denver has squandered all of their leverage by letting all of his unhappiness becoming public knowledge. I personally don't like Lelie but I think there are some people in this thread trying to equate fantasy value to real NFL value. Lelie's still 26 with the right measureables who has looked good at times. Has he been a disappointment considering where he was drafted? Sure. But, maybe he can eventually be salvaged. Wouldn't you rather use a 4th or 5th 2007 rounder on him compared to the 2006 1st rounder that Pittsburgh used on Santonio Holmes?

 
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They are looking at the wrong Jones.  Thomas is the one they need to try and swap Lelie with.  Thomas would be a monster in Denver.
Now this makes sense and the value is much closer. Don't know if it does from a contractual standpoint though.
Thomas Jones is due to make $2,250,000 this year and $2,225,000 in 2007. Lelie is due to make $600,000 this year and $725,000 next year. So the #s are pretty far apart but both players want new contracts anyway, so I dont really think that would stop it. This is all speculation on my part but Ive been saying for over a month that this would be the perfect trade as Denver needs a RB that can handle 320-350 carries and Chicago needs another good WR badly.
The way Chicago is built they need Jones far more. They are a big time run first team. It's their bread and butter on offense. Overall, they have a nasty D and compliment it with a solid ground game. If they dealt Jones and Benson didn't work out their O could get themself into some big trouble.
 
They are looking at the wrong Jones.  Thomas is the one they need to try and swap Lelie with.  Thomas would be a monster in Denver.
Now this makes sense and the value is much closer. Don't know if it does from a contractual standpoint though.
Thomas Jones is due to make $2,250,000 this year and $2,225,000 in 2007. Lelie is due to make $600,000 this year and $725,000 next year. So the #s are pretty far apart but both players want new contracts anyway, so I dont really think that would stop it. This is all speculation on my part but Ive been saying for over a month that this would be the perfect trade as Denver needs a RB that can handle 320-350 carries and Chicago needs another good WR badly.
The way Chicago is built they need Jones far more. They are a big time run first team. It's their bread and butter on offense. Overall, they have a nasty D and compliment it with a solid ground game. If they dealt Jones and Benson didn't work out their O could get themself into some big trouble.
Adrian Peterson is very capable of starting in this league. He averaged 5.1 YPC last year. I dont think the need Jones as much as Lovie makes it out to be. With Benson and Peterson I think they would be fine.
 
Adrian Peterson is very capable of starting in this league. He averaged 5.1 YPC last year. I dont think the need Jones as much as Lovie makes it out to be. With Benson and Peterson I think they would be fine.
He's a fillin type not a carry the team on his back for a season type RB. He's good but just good.
 
They are looking at the wrong Jones.  Thomas is the one they need to try and swap Lelie with.  Thomas would be a monster in Denver.
Now this makes sense and the value is much closer. Don't know if it does from a contractual standpoint though.
Thomas Jones is due to make $2,250,000 this year and $2,225,000 in 2007. Lelie is due to make $600,000 this year and $725,000 next year. So the #s are pretty far apart but both players want new contracts anyway, so I dont really think that would stop it. This is all speculation on my part but Ive been saying for over a month that this would be the perfect trade as Denver needs a RB that can handle 320-350 carries and Chicago needs another good WR badly.
The way Chicago is built they need Jones far more. They are a big time run first team. It's their bread and butter on offense. Overall, they have a nasty D and compliment it with a solid ground game. If they dealt Jones and Benson didn't work out their O could get themself into some big trouble.
Adrian Peterson is very capable of starting in this league. He averaged 5.1 YPC last year. I dont think the need Jones as much as Lovie makes it out to be. With Benson and Peterson I think they would be fine.
Peterson has not shown he can be a #1 RB. The following is his carries during his four year career:19

22

6

76

Last year he showed he can probably be a quality depth guy with some intriguing upside. He did not show he can be the main gog in a run first offense which he would be if they dealt Jones and Benson either busted or got hurt. Chicago is built to grind and they need more than an unproven Benson, Peterson and Tony Hollings this year. If Benson proves he can be a legit #1 than you can launch Jones and get more depth in next year's draft or free agancy. Yet, if they cut ties with Jones they are putting themselves in a position to really damage their offense. This team is contending for a conference title and dealing Jones without adding another RB does not make sense with the style of football they play.

 
That would lead to many teams wanting at least 2 solid backs if possible, which greatly diminishes the chances of a WR for a RB trade. It would be more plausible for a 3rd-RB on the depth chart, maybe an Adrian Peterson for Lelie trade, but who knows if that would fly with Denver.
I disagree with you here Jeff. There will be plenty of available 3rd RBs following the start of training camps. Lelie hasn't blown anyone away obviously, and his attitude is no doubt hurting his trade value. But, he has shown flashes of being a good if not great receiver at times. There are way more than a couple of teams that would think that they could use him and they'll pay more than a 5th unless they just think Denver has squandered all of their leverage by letting all of his unhappiness becoming public knowledge. I personally don't like Lelie but I think there are some people in this thread trying to equate fantasy value to real NFL value. Lelie's still 26 with the right measureables who has looked good at times. Has he been a disappointment considering where he was drafted? Sure. But, maybe he can eventually be salvaged. Wouldn't you rather use a 4th or 5th 2007 rounder on him compared to the 2006 1st rounder that Pittsburgh used on Santonio Holmes?
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.I saw plenty of Denver the past 2 seasons, and Lelie was overrated at best at his peak.

He struggles every year to catch 50% of his targets. Going deeper, (no pun intended), he's the deep threat (allegedly) for the Broncos as he averaged over 18 YPC the last two years and close to that for his career.

However, he cannot make a clutch catch and he often runs bad routes. He cannot read a Plummer long ball to save his life, as he often looks over the wrong shoulder or loses track of where he is on the field. His timing with Plummer is way off, and his technique is terrible. Other than that..... what's not to like?

I'll take a gamble on a fresh set of hands and wheels from a rookie over a known below average deep threat receiver if it was up to me.

 
IF this goes through, the converstion should not be about Lelie or Jones. Ther person who wuld benefit the most would be Fred Taylor. By trading away Jones, it would show that they are very confident in Taylor this year.

 
IF this goes through, the converstion should not be about Lelie or Jones. Ther person who wuld benefit the most would be Fred Taylor. By trading away Jones, it would show that they are very confident in Taylor this year.
Not to mention, Toefield has been reportedly wowing them in camp as well.
 
This was a question to ESPN's Jeremy Green on a chat today. It is Insider material, so I can't link it. He was asked about teams that are interested in Lelie. he mentioned a couple and then said Jax was also interested and Greg Jones could be the bait. As a player that is somewhat similar to Dayne, I'm not sure why this makes sense for Denver, unless they don't believe in Dayne at all.
Greg Jones is not similar to Dayne ... Jones is a power back. Dayne is fat turd with very little power. He will be the 3rd running back on Denver by week 4 at the latest.

 
This was a question to ESPN's Jeremy Green on a chat today. It is Insider material, so I can't link it. He was asked about teams that are interested in Lelie. he mentioned a couple and then said Jax was also interested and Greg Jones could be the bait. As a player that is somewhat similar to Dayne, I'm not sure why this makes sense for Denver, unless they don't believe in Dayne at all.
Question is: did Jeremy hear that or just make it up a possible scenario?
Good question. So often someone on Sirius or another news outlet makes up a whatif scenario or wouldn't it be cool if so-and-so got traded for this other guy and it gets twisted into a inside rumor.Would love to hear the direct quote and context.

 
Again, this is part of the Insider content. I will post just the one question that we've been discussing. Mods, feel free to delete/modify if this should not be posted.

Josh (Madison, AL): What is going on with a Lelie trade? Clayton predicted in his chat a few days ago, that Lelie would be traded in the next 10 days. Have any insight?

Jeremy Green: Same teams involved. Atlanta, Chicago, and Philly. He did not mention Jacksnville who I have talked to and sources tell me Greg Jones could be the traid bait. I think holding on to him gives them morre leverage. As average as I think he is, a team could lose a guy in a preseason game which would drive up his market.

 
What about Lelie for Travis Henry?

Several times, I have wondered why Denver doesn't trade for Travis Henry or a RB similar to him. They might be able to get him for a middle to late draft choice instead of Lelie, if Denver needed another RB, but wanted to keep Lelie.

Any opinions?

 
What about Lelie for Travis Henry?

Several times, I have wondered why Denver doesn't trade for Travis Henry or a RB similar to him. They might be able to get him for a middle to late draft choice instead of Lelie, if Denver needed another RB, but wanted to keep Lelie.

Any opinions?
Henry is one strike away from a year suspension, and his current contract would pay him a damn lot of money in incentives should he end up as the starter for a team like Denver.
 
What about Lelie for Travis Henry?

Several times, I have wondered why Denver doesn't trade for Travis Henry or a RB similar to him. They might be able to get him for a middle to late draft choice instead of Lelie, if Denver needed another RB, but wanted to keep Lelie.

Any opinions?
Makes a lot more sense than Jax, which doesn't need another WR and isn't that strong at RB to begin with.
 
What about Lelie for Travis Henry?

Several times, I have wondered why Denver doesn't trade for Travis Henry or a RB similar to him. They might be able to get him for a middle to late draft choice instead of Lelie, if Denver needed another RB, but wanted to keep Lelie.

Any opinions?
Henry is one strike away from a year suspension, and his current contract would pay him a damn lot of money in incentives should he end up as the starter for a team like Denver.
Good point, Diesel. In addition, I read a blurb yesterday that said the Titans were going to showcase Henry in the preseason in an effort to trade him. Who knows if it is legit or not. I posted the blurb in the White, Brown, Henry spotligh thread.
 
What about Lelie for Travis Henry?

Several times, I have wondered why Denver doesn't trade for Travis Henry or a RB similar to him. They might be able to get him for a middle to late draft choice instead of Lelie, if Denver needed another RB, but wanted to keep Lelie.

Any opinions?
Can't see why Tenn. would want Lelie though. :shrug:
 
What about Lelie for Travis Henry?

Several times, I have wondered why Denver doesn't trade for Travis Henry or a RB similar to him. They might be able to get him for a middle to late draft choice instead of Lelie, if Denver needed another RB, but wanted to keep Lelie.

Any opinions?
Makes a lot more sense than Jax, which doesn't need another WR and isn't that strong at RB to begin with.
jax's wide receivers are doo-doo... they should take anyone they can get.
 
I think Leile reports to camp in Denver after losing alot of money and then is a no-show most of the year

edited: what I mean by no show is that he is demoted to #4 and does nothing....

 
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What about Lelie for Travis Henry?

Several times, I have wondered why Denver doesn't trade for Travis Henry or a RB similar to him. They might be able to get him for a middle to late draft choice instead of Lelie, if Denver needed another RB, but wanted to keep Lelie.

Any opinions?
Makes a lot more sense than Jax, which doesn't need another WR and isn't that strong at RB to begin with.
jax's wide receivers are doo-doo... they should take anyone they can get.
Greg Jones is the starting fullback for the Jaguars. This trade would make no sense.
 
if lelie doesn't show who will start opposite rod smith? javon walker isn't ready to go, right?
Watts probably...
Adams seemed to be #3 last year and there's the rook('nother thread here) so....we don't know til TC seems to be the safe response
 

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