PahtyTom
Footballguy
That is pretty tough schedule IMO. Only real good matchups seem to be Washington and Detroit. That said, Blount looks very special so I'm not sure I would discount him too much. Just sayin, schedule is not a positive IMO
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Trade value for Blount? (1 Viewer)
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TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Traded him away in dynasty for Steve Johnson last week. Granted the other owner can see the future and knew this blow up game was coming while I didn't, I still like my side of the trade.
Now if Blount were playing the Cardinals every week it might be a different story.
Now if Blount were playing the Cardinals every week it might be a different story.
belljr
Footballguy
You're giving up a first round pick for Blount? I like Blount and all but no way I would shell out a first rounder for the guy. Yes I'm bitter I dropped him but he's not a first round talent yet.
Banger
Footballguy
Why isn't he a 1st round rookie talent (later 1st round- I wouldn't deal the top 5 pick for him)? Are there really 8-12 rookies that you'd take over him? I'd take Blount, knowing what his situation is and seeing him play, over the completely unknown 2nd or 3rd tier rookies myself.
I doubt you get AP. and how is AP and SJax weak?
belljr
Footballguy
Because he's played ok in 1 game and great in another. I hope he does well and think he has the talent but I'm not sold on paying that price for him. I guess it depends. For us FA and rookies are the same draft and it depends on your needs. It also depends on the draft class.The past class was not deep but 2009 you could end up with a Nicks, Mccoy, Greene, HarvinLast year was "awful" Hardesty, Thomas, Tate, Mccluster2008 - I mean Chris Johnson, Ray Rice were ranked out of the top 5. I can see your point and not sure where I would put him among the players I mentioned above I'm not sure I would buy at that value, just yet.
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
That sounds like a great deal you did to get Nicks. I am envious. I recently pulled the trigger on a sell low of one of my main backs, Mendenhall for Boldin..straight up. I figure I have Blount on my bench and I really need an upgrade at WR. Now my team is more balanced moving forward, and even if Blount drops off, (which I don't think he will), I have many more options with a balanced talent level at the core positions.
Having FA's in your rookie draft can make a huge difference obviously, depending on who is there. I'm talking full dynasty, where the draft is almost exclusively rookies.I understand he doesn't have a huge track record, but that's still more than any of the rookies have. We know he's on TB, we know he has very little competition right now. and we know he's done well so far. We don't even know exactly what rookies are going to be available in the draft, nevermind what team's they're going to be on. Plus you have to consider that you're going to get production out of Blount for the rest of this season, which you obviously aren't going to get out of a college player.Yes, there's a chance you could end up with a good player, but it's more likely that you end up with a flop. It obviously depends on the league, but assuming it's only rookies, I'd take Blount over the crapshoot in the 8-12 range myself.
Vicktimized
Footballguy
He passed on MJD? LULZ.
loose circuits
Footballguy
ok, i'll add how MFL ranks their rush D to the right (think that is based off yardage, but not sure)9 at Falcons 810 vs Panthers 2011 at 49ers 912 at Ravens 1713 vs Falcons 814 at Redskins 1915 vs Lions 2616 vs Seahawks 10I like it as much as anyones else in the league...I don't think ATL, Seattle, or SanFran are as good as their rankings indicate
DepthCharts
Footballguy
in a $200 start 2 RB PPR Dynasty, just gave up Lynch, Vincent Jackson and Kellen Winslow and my 3rd rounder next year for Blount, Meacham and Witten and his 6th. (Lynchon bench, behind cj3 on bye and Dwill killin us all and Winslow behind Gonzo) I need a 2nd RB, this clearly is my motivation and i was able to upgrade at TE a wee bit. In addition, this is a league that only allows 5 waiver pickups a year....witten / gonzo should protect me in playoffs at the 1 TE position required. i gave next year to help this year, clearly. I also need to find a lil lightining in a bottle and im thinking this is THE guy.
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nm, misread your deal. def would prefer blount over lynch lol.
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Dragon1952
Footballguy
Wow...great deal!
wait really? both of you would prefer blount to mjd? im gonna make some offers.
eaglesfan7
Footballguy
lol
Sir Chadwick
Footballguy
Wow, what is up w/ all these crazy offers for Blount? I own the guy and would trade him in a heartbeat for guys like MJD, R. Wayne, (Brees + AJ wth?)
He's had ONE good game against a porous ARI run defense. I understand he's getting more opportunities now, but he's not overvalued in my league... not yet anyway.
He's had ONE good game against a porous ARI run defense. I understand he's getting more opportunities now, but he's not overvalued in my league... not yet anyway.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I was just offered LGB and Desean Jackson for Andre Johnson and Max Hall
Turned it down..
Turned it down..
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Ten other teams could agree with you, but all it takes is one team manager with delusions of grandeur.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Redraft or Dynasty?If redraft, you lose. That is a 2 for 1 trade, and DeSean going forward is a slight dropoff or even a wash a gimpy AJ. And Blount is going to be a solid RB2 going forward. DeSean is back and the hookup with Vick is going to only get better. I don't get what's not to like about that deal.
12 tm redraft very deep rosters:
Just Traded:
D.Garrard
L.Blount
Caddy
for
Wells
Hightower
Ocho Cinco
K. Smith
2 reasons why I moved Blount.
1- I think Tampa finishes 8-8. I don't see them winning a ton down the stretch. With them coming back to earth, I think his 20+ carry games will be limited, because he is not on the field all 3 downs.
I like Raheem Morris' energy, but I feel like people will be looking at that clip of him saying 'Buccs are best in NFC,' and laughing at some point.
2- I don't think he'll hold up physically. His running style is straight punishing. Guy looked like a manimal in last two games, but I get this "Brandon Jacobs" feeling with him getting nicked, or injured real soon. He doesn't run as high as Jacobs, but he finishes runs similar, and it concerns me.
That said Wells, who I just acquired is having knee issues as well.
We shall see.
Just Traded:
D.Garrard
L.Blount
Caddy
for
Wells
Hightower
Ocho Cinco
K. Smith
2 reasons why I moved Blount.
1- I think Tampa finishes 8-8. I don't see them winning a ton down the stretch. With them coming back to earth, I think his 20+ carry games will be limited, because he is not on the field all 3 downs.
I like Raheem Morris' energy, but I feel like people will be looking at that clip of him saying 'Buccs are best in NFC,' and laughing at some point.
2- I don't think he'll hold up physically. His running style is straight punishing. Guy looked like a manimal in last two games, but I get this "Brandon Jacobs" feeling with him getting nicked, or injured real soon. He doesn't run as high as Jacobs, but he finishes runs similar, and it concerns me.
That said Wells, who I just acquired is having knee issues as well.
We shall see.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Why do you see Tampa finishing 8-8? Why won’t they finish strong? Even if they do finish 8-8, they will be competitive and Blount’s carries going forward should approach 20+ consistently. It’s almost as if you believe they will be getting blown out from here on, and they will abandon the run.The reason I am optimistic about Tampa is their QB. Josh Freeman is the equivalent to Ben Roethlisberger. He throws a very nice deep ball, and has rallied his team time and time again. He won’t let his team down. Dude's a winner. At this point, I’d have to consider him for the NFL MVP. Having a great QB, who is at this point top 3 in the NFC in my opinion, the Bucs will have an offense that will sustain Blount’s success. They may lose this weekend to Atlanta, but the betting line is crazy. This will be a tight game decided near the end, and Blount will show that last week was no fluke.12 tm redraft very deep rosters:Just Traded.GarrardL.BlountCaddyforWells HightowerOcho CincoK. Smith 2 reasons why I moved Blount.1- I think Tampa finishes 8-8. I don't see them winning a ton down the stretch. With them coming back to earth, I think his 20+ carry games will be limited, because he is not on the field all 3 downs.I like Raheem Morris' energy, but I feel like people will be looking at that clip of him saying 'Buccs are best in NFC,' and laughing at some point.2- I don't think he'll hold up physically. His running style is straight punishing. Guy looked like a manimal in last two games, but I get this "Brandon Jacobs" feeling with him getting nicked, or injured real soon. He doesn't run as high as Jacobs, but he finishes runs similar, and it concerns me.That said Wells, who I just acquired is having knee issues as well.We shall see.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
It's dynasty PPR..You can't replace top ranking players. I like both Desean and Blount but neither of them will supply the consistent strong stats that AJ will.. And their stats are going to be easier to reproduce elsewhere than AJ's...Aside from that, D-Jax has never broken 70 rec in a year, and he won't do it this year either... Blount has had 1 good game against a bad run D... AJ is a proven beast, virtually irreplaceable..I'm pretty sure I'm right to hold out for more..Redraft or Dynasty?If redraft, you lose. That is a 2 for 1 trade, and DeSean going forward is a slight dropoff or even a wash a gimpy AJ. And Blount is going to be a solid RB2 going forward. DeSean is back and the hookup with Vick is going to only get better. I don't get what's not to like about that deal.
Sleeperz
Footballguy
I was just offered LaRon Landry for Blount in my main IDP league. If I needed a DB I probably would have accepted.
I think he is going to be a solid play the rest of the way though. It isn't just what he did stat-wise, its how he looked doing it. The guy is flat out fired up and running with a purpose. Yes, Arizona's run defense is pretty bad, but he has looked good every chance he has been given so far. He Looked good even against the Steelers Defense which has only given up two rushing TDs on the year. Blount accounts for 50% of that number.
I think he is going to be a solid play the rest of the way though. It isn't just what he did stat-wise, its how he looked doing it. The guy is flat out fired up and running with a purpose. Yes, Arizona's run defense is pretty bad, but he has looked good every chance he has been given so far. He Looked good even against the Steelers Defense which has only given up two rushing TDs on the year. Blount accounts for 50% of that number.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Just rejected Donald Brown for Blount offer
footballnerd
Footballguy
a few reasons:Brown hasn't shown me anything, and he might be still banged upI need a RB for the season not for a couple of weeks, Addai/Hart will be backwho knows if Brown loses carries to the James kid, Brown performed horribly last weekMozeta said:
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Mozeta
Footballguy
Makes sense, for some reason I read this backwards the first time and thought someone was offering Blount to you for Donald Brown and you didn't want to do the deal.
footballnerd
Footballguy
oh ya, definitely rejected Brown
The Goose is Loose
Footballguy
Was offered Nicks for Blount, Steve Smith (Car), and Cooley. I'm relatively deep at WR and TE so I am considering this deal. I tried to swap Felix Jones for Blount and the guy wouldn't do it. 12 team PPR league.
buster c
Footballguy
C'mon man, get out of here with that. This is a Blunt thread. Uh, nevermind
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Just traded in a ppr dynasty for the current 1.14 rookie pick
Arjen_Robben
Footballguy
I just dealt Blount + R. Brown for Peyton Hillis. Why? Analysis of Blount's "breakout" performance against Arizona, a terrible run defense:
Tossed in Ronnie as a sweetener, but I figure Blount's upside is really about Hillis' baseline. Both have easy playoff schedules, but Hillis is a fantastic pass blocker, and that fact makes me think he'll be on the field consistently. Plus, he's the only weapon left in the Cleveland offense. White guys are consistently underrated, but he grades out as a top-8 fantasy producer at the RB position. In the end the only factor that breaks this trade is an injury. Both players could end up having similar second-halves.
JGalligan
Footballguy
What about the 6.5 yards per carry average he had against the Rams? Pretty sure they have the 8th-best rushing defense in the league.
Arjen_Robben
Footballguy
After adjustments for the offenses they have faced, the Rams actually rank 15th against the run.
JGalligan
Footballguy
Adjustments as in, what, strength of schedule? I don't care how easy their SoS is even though, from looking at it, it doesn't look too weak to me. They've only given up two rushing touchdowns so far this year. TWO! This is the NFL, there's parity, and the Rams have played against seven different teams thus far and have only let up two rushing touchdowns. They've gone against the likes of Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Matthews, Mike Tolbert, Jahvid Best, Darren McFadden...
They held Jahvid Best to just 59 yards on the ground, Ryan Matthews to just 64 yards and Jonathan Stewart to just 30 yards. Looking at their schedule this season, the only bad game they've had as a run defense came against Oakland where Darren McFadden went off on them for 145 rushing yards. But then again, he's been doing that to pretty much everyone the Raiders play this year.
Care to enlighten me further as to these adjustments?
And even giving you the benefit of the doubt and saying they do have the 15th ranked rush defense in the league after adjusting everything, isn't a 6.5 carry average against more or less anyone an impressive feat? Nevermind a middle-of-the-pack rush defense.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
In a PPR (.5 PPR for RB), start 2 RB 3 WR dynasty, I sent MSW (my #4a/b/c WR) for Blount (now my #4 RB).
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Gut feeling I should have unloaded in dynasty this week before he comes back to earth.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I believe they rank 8th at home against the run, and 15th overall...
