Trade value of rookie draft picks (1 Viewer)

[dmac37]

This may be a pipe dream, but does anybody have a reference or opinion for each first round rookie draft pick = to what level of current player.

Example guess:

1.1 = top 2 RB or top 2 WR

1.2 = top 3 RB or top 3 WR

1.3 = ?????

1.4 = ?????

continue through 1.12

Certain players could be listed but it would probably be easier to go by rankings and everyone could use their own rankings from there.

 

[EBF]

Depends on your league setup and scoring format.

But the 1.01 certainly isn't worth a top 2 RB. Just looking at the odds, it's probably roughly equivalent in value to a top 15-30 player in most leagues. But you'd probably have to pay more than that to get it.

 

[coolnerd]

Depends on your league setup and scoring format. But the 1.01 certainly isn't worth a top 2 RB. Just looking at the odds, it's probably roughly equivalent in value to a top 15-30 player in most leagues. But you'd probably have to pay more than that to get it.

Several factors will dictate the price acquisition versus the real value of the pick. Along with league set-up you have to conisder the person holding the pick. Does he have a position shortage that the draft will help solve?Does the person generally favor youth over verterans?Are there a lot of people trying to get the pick?How much are having to pay for opportunity costs i.e. trading now versus closer to the draft?do you have a good ttrading relationship with the guy?

 

[crnerblitz]

That is a really good dynasty question, and one that dynasty owners need to know! The boards own BETO wrote an excellent article about this topic and a very good discussion followed. Here is the link. 1st Round Rookie pick value

Once again thanks to Beto for the hard work on this.

 

[Sopranos]

I dont trade proven top 5 players at a position for unproven talent. So IMO rookie picks are always overvalued. I dont care who is coming out. IMO Gore Addai and others are worth ALOT more than the 1.1

 

[FunkyPlutos]

If you want to get a top pick, get it now.

If you want to trade the top pick, wait until you are on the clock.

 

[The Captain]

If you want to get a top pick, get it now.If you want to trade the top pick, wait until you are on the clock.

I think the latter part of your statement is more true if your rookie draft is prior to the NFL draft. The value of the top picks can go up or down depending on where the top prospectss land. If the top 3 RBs land in perfect situations, the value of the picks go up. If they land in bad situations, the trade value goes way down. Just prior to the NFL draft is when a rookie pick is at it's most valuable, if you play like to play it safe.

 

[dmac37]

That is a really good dynasty question, and one that dynasty owners need to know! The boards own BETO wrote an excellent article about this topic and a very good discussion followed. Here is the link. 1st Round Rookie pick value

Once again thanks to Beto for the hard work on this.

That BETO thread is by far one of the best dynasty threads I've ever seen, full of great timeless information. Reason I posted this topic, this is the first year of my first dynasty, I really have no clue on value of a rookie pick vs a current player. This year I have the 1.7 pick, this seems to be the cut off for one of the top backs. Right now going by Jeters poll:1. Darren McFadden, RB 69% (Stewart 25%)

2. Jonathan Stewart, RB 64% (Mendenhall 16%)

3. Rashard Mendenhall, RB 45% (Jones 40%)

4. Felix Jones, RB 65% (Rice 12%)

5. Ray Rice, RB 57% (Charles 15%)

Tie 6. Jamaal Charles, RB 31% (Smith 27%)

Kevin Smith, RB 27% (Ryan 12%)

Personal opinion- Chris Johnson could be a wildcard and move into this group.

Remember this is before the combine and NFL draft, after this the values WILL change. So I'm thinking in the 7th position you could get a player at the bottom of this tier in a good situation or a top 4 RB that has fallen a few spots because of the team he is drafted by.

After the NFL draft the 1.7 spot could be value for one of the last POTENTIAL top RB's??

 

[cstu]

That is a really good dynasty question, and one that dynasty owners need to know! The boards own BETO wrote an excellent article about this topic and a very good discussion followed. Here is the link. 1st Round Rookie pick value

Once again thanks to Beto for the hard work on this.

That's what I was looking for.

 

[EBF]

That is a really good dynasty question, and one that dynasty owners need to know! The boards own BETO wrote an excellent article about this topic and a very good discussion followed. Here is the link. 1st Round Rookie pick value

Once again thanks to Beto for the hard work on this.

That BETO thread is by far one of the best dynasty threads I've ever seen, full of great timeless information. Reason I posted this topic, this is the first year of my first dynasty, I really have no clue on value of a rookie pick vs a current player. This year I have the 1.7 pick, this seems to be the cut off for one of the top backs. Right now going by Jeters poll:1. Darren McFadden, RB 69% (Stewart 25%)

2. Jonathan Stewart, RB 64% (Mendenhall 16%)

3. Rashard Mendenhall, RB 45% (Jones 40%)

4. Felix Jones, RB 65% (Rice 12%)

5. Ray Rice, RB 57% (Charles 15%)

Tie 6. Jamaal Charles, RB 31% (Smith 27%)

Kevin Smith, RB 27% (Ryan 12%)

Personal opinion- Chris Johnson could be a wildcard and move into this group.

Remember this is before the combine and NFL draft, after this the values WILL change. So I'm thinking in the 7th position you could get a player at the bottom of this tier in a good situation or a top 4 RB that has fallen a few spots because of the team he is drafted by.

After the NFL draft the 1.7 spot could be value for one of the last POTENTIAL top RB's??

The real value this year is in the top 3-4. I see three slam dunk first round RBs: McFadden, Stewart, and Mendenhall. Felix Jones is also likely to join that group, but we'll have to see how heavy he checks in at the combine. Size is a bit of a question mark with him. Ditto Jamaal Charles and Chris Johnson. But don't believe the hype about this RB crop. Most of the 2nd-3rd round guys will slip to those rounds for a reason. And while I do think we could see someone like Ray Rice or Kevin Smith emerge as a decent NFL player, I don't necessarily consider them elite prospects.

After the top 3-4 backs go off the board, I think you have to start looking at the WRs depending on your league setup. I generally think it's wise to draft the best talent available instead of forcing yourself to settle on a second rate RB. For every Frank Gore there are several guys like Vernand Morency, Ryan Moats, and Lorenzo Booker. Just something to keep in mind as you mull your options.

The 1.07 doesn't have much trade value though. It could maybe get you a top 20-30 dynasty WR or a fringe top 10 dynasty QB.

 

[dmac37]

That is a really good dynasty question, and one that dynasty owners need to know! The boards own BETO wrote an excellent article about this topic and a very good discussion followed. Here is the link. 1st Round Rookie pick value

Once again thanks to Beto for the hard work on this.

That BETO thread is by far one of the best dynasty threads I've ever seen, full of great timeless information. Reason I posted this topic, this is the first year of my first dynasty, I really have no clue on value of a rookie pick vs a current player. This year I have the 1.7 pick, this seems to be the cut off for one of the top backs. Right now going by Jeters poll:1. Darren McFadden, RB 69% (Stewart 25%)

2. Jonathan Stewart, RB 64% (Mendenhall 16%)

3. Rashard Mendenhall, RB 45% (Jones 40%)

4. Felix Jones, RB 65% (Rice 12%)

5. Ray Rice, RB 57% (Charles 15%)

Tie 6. Jamaal Charles, RB 31% (Smith 27%)

Kevin Smith, RB 27% (Ryan 12%)

Personal opinion- Chris Johnson could be a wildcard and move into this group.

Remember this is before the combine and NFL draft, after this the values WILL change. So I'm thinking in the 7th position you could get a player at the bottom of this tier in a good situation or a top 4 RB that has fallen a few spots because of the team he is drafted by.

After the NFL draft the 1.7 spot could be value for one of the last POTENTIAL top RB's??

The real value this year is in the top 3-4. I see three slam dunk first round RBs: McFadden, Stewart, and Mendenhall. Felix Jones is also likely to join that group, but we'll have to see how heavy he checks in at the combine. Size is a bit of a question mark with him. Ditto Jamaal Charles and Chris Johnson. But don't believe the hype about this RB crop. Most of the 2nd-3rd round guys will slip to those rounds for a reason. And while I do think we could see someone like Ray Rice or Kevin Smith emerge as a decent NFL player, I don't necessarily consider them elite prospects.

After the top 3-4 backs go off the board, I think you have to start looking at the WRs depending on your league setup. I generally think it's wise to draft the best talent available instead of forcing yourself to settle on a second rate RB. For every Frank Gore there are several guys like Vernand Morency, Ryan Moats, and Lorenzo Booker. Just something to keep in mind as you mull your options.

The 1.07 doesn't have much trade value though. It could maybe get you a top 20-30 dynasty WR or a fringe top 10 dynasty QB.

EBF- Good point about the size of Jones, Charles, and Johnson. It has been pointed out in other threads the value of weight and body mass in relation to draft position. I already have a young team, with Rodgers a QB waiting in the wings but with 3 years of preparation compared to a 2008 rookie and S. Rice, M. Walker, and L. Robinson with a year at the NFL level and closer to the 3 year WR breakout year. So I guess what my thinking is 1.7 could yield a trade of a somewhat proven player (that value is what I'm trying to figure out) or a good RB prospect vs another QB or WR project that usually take years to develop.

 

[EBF]

That is a really good dynasty question, and one that dynasty owners need to know! The boards own BETO wrote an excellent article about this topic and a very good discussion followed. Here is the link. 1st Round Rookie pick value

Once again thanks to Beto for the hard work on this.

That BETO thread is by far one of the best dynasty threads I've ever seen, full of great timeless information. Reason I posted this topic, this is the first year of my first dynasty, I really have no clue on value of a rookie pick vs a current player. This year I have the 1.7 pick, this seems to be the cut off for one of the top backs. Right now going by Jeters poll:1. Darren McFadden, RB 69% (Stewart 25%)

2. Jonathan Stewart, RB 64% (Mendenhall 16%)

3. Rashard Mendenhall, RB 45% (Jones 40%)

4. Felix Jones, RB 65% (Rice 12%)

5. Ray Rice, RB 57% (Charles 15%)

Tie 6. Jamaal Charles, RB 31% (Smith 27%)

Kevin Smith, RB 27% (Ryan 12%)

Personal opinion- Chris Johnson could be a wildcard and move into this group.

Remember this is before the combine and NFL draft, after this the values WILL change. So I'm thinking in the 7th position you could get a player at the bottom of this tier in a good situation or a top 4 RB that has fallen a few spots because of the team he is drafted by.

After the NFL draft the 1.7 spot could be value for one of the last POTENTIAL top RB's??

The real value this year is in the top 3-4. I see three slam dunk first round RBs: McFadden, Stewart, and Mendenhall. Felix Jones is also likely to join that group, but we'll have to see how heavy he checks in at the combine. Size is a bit of a question mark with him. Ditto Jamaal Charles and Chris Johnson. But don't believe the hype about this RB crop. Most of the 2nd-3rd round guys will slip to those rounds for a reason. And while I do think we could see someone like Ray Rice or Kevin Smith emerge as a decent NFL player, I don't necessarily consider them elite prospects.

After the top 3-4 backs go off the board, I think you have to start looking at the WRs depending on your league setup. I generally think it's wise to draft the best talent available instead of forcing yourself to settle on a second rate RB. For every Frank Gore there are several guys like Vernand Morency, Ryan Moats, and Lorenzo Booker. Just something to keep in mind as you mull your options.

The 1.07 doesn't have much trade value though. It could maybe get you a top 20-30 dynasty WR or a fringe top 10 dynasty QB.

EBF- Good point about the size of Jones, Charles, and Johnson. It has been pointed out in other threads the value of weight and body mass in relation to draft position. I already have a young team, with Rodgers a QB waiting in the wings but with 3 years of preparation compared to a 2008 rookie and S. Rice, M. Walker, and L. Robinson with a year at the NFL level and closer to the 3 year WR breakout year. So I guess what my thinking is 1.7 could yield a trade of a somewhat proven player (that value is what I'm trying to figure out) or a good RB prospect vs another QB or WR project that usually take years to develop.

Yep. Not a bad plan. You might be able to get someone like Sidney Rice, Anthony Gonzalez, or Mark Clayton. It really depends on the other owners in your league and on how rookie-crazed they are. If you're stuck with the pick though, I recommend taking the best non-QB or TE available (so probably a WR or a RB). In the end I think this strategy allows you to stockpile talent. And while it might not immediately address a need, you can always trade your players once they develop. Generally, the worst thing you can do in a rookie draft is reach for marginal talent when elite players are still on the board. I make an exception for leagues that skew heavily towards RB scoring because then the poor odds of success are sometimes justified by the high potential for reward. But for the most part, drafting the best talent on the board is the best move.

That said, I make an exception for QBs. I don't recommend drafting QBs anywhere before the 3rd round of your rookie draft since the success rate is very poor and they're usualy not worth much even when they do pan out.

 

[beto]

I'm still undecided how this year's draft class fits in with my historical baseline. 8 Jr RBs is certainly nice, but WR looks weaker than last year. TE and QB don't seem to have an elite prospect that will push into the 1st round. I'd say picks 1.4 and 1.5 might be worth more than normal, but 1.6-1.12 are about average. I'm looking forward to the Blammey reports from the Senior Bowl and Combine to sort it out a bit better.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Usually; only the 1st 3 picks are worth trading straight up for.... maybe this yr you can argue that 1.04 has good value too. After that; the rest are toss ins. Draft picks are always overvalued... especially those 1.05 - 1.10; those picks just never seems to develop... maybe 1 or even 2 of them does; but its not worth taking the risk of trading a solid player for one of those IMO. It seems for every MJD or Bowe that comes from 1.05 - 1.10... there a Ryan Grant or a Colston in the FA Pool. So I always much rather trade away any thing over 1.04 and get someone I can atleast plug in right away. Yeah, once in a while, your'll trade away MJD... but the chances of you actually drafting MJD is not in your favor.

 

[Couch Potato]

I'd like to quote post #13 from the "Beto" thread to illustrate the risk in valuing rookie picks too highly. The post was by our highly regarded Bloom, in March of '05 before that year's NFL draft:

1.05 is not a reach this year.

any of brown, caddy, benson, edwards or mike williams could end being a fantasy superstud, and all project to be above average fantasy starters at worst. i hate to say "cant miss", but these 5 have earned the label. honestly the 1.05 is not worth that much less than the 1.01 this year if you dont specifically need an RB.

See the statements I put in bold?After three seasons, where are we with these "can't miss" guys:

Ronnie Brown - Did OK in both 2005 and 2006 but wasn't dominating. FINALLY had a stud year going for 7 weeks in 2007 before injury put him on the shelf for the year. New coaching staff now, Ricky is coming back, and Ronnie has a serious injury to recover from, so it's hard to say how big a share of the load he'll get in 2008.

Cadillac Williams - decent rookie year, bust in 2006, hurt in 2007, future very cloudy due to severity of patella tendon injury.

Cedric Benson - minor player in 2005, more active in 2006 but still light duty, full role in 2007 was awful, then injured. Bears talking now about bringing in new blood in 2008.

Braylon Edwards - the stud of the group. OK for a rookie in 2005, nice advance in 2006, monster year in 2007. And yet, how many in need or greed passed on him to reach for 2nd round RB Eric Shelton, who was supposed to come in and take the job from Foster but was a complete washout? I know that a lot of people did.

Mike Williams - uh, yeah. Ouch.

OK, so among this "can't miss" group, we have one bona fide stud in Edwards if you had the patience to draft him instead of RB Shelton and wait for him to break out (remember, he was drafted onto an awful offensive team at the time with no stability at QB). Brown has had his moments but also has disappointed his owners. And the other three certainly are not players you would have wanted to trade top-30 veterans for. And of course Shelton, typically drafted 4th or 5th in rookie fantasy drafts that year (either ahead of or behind Edwards) was another complete disaster.

This isn't to knock Bloom at all. I respect him a lot, and we were all high on this group. Just look at where the NFL drafted these guys, all very high in the 1st round (and Shelton in the 2nd). But it is a cautionary tale, that trusting in rookie picks is a risky proposition.

 

[beto]

Interesting post CP.

I wonder if anyone has done a study comparing drafts done by various regimes.

For instance, the Bears, Dolphins, Lions and Bucs have done a poor job at the draft in recent memory. All 4 of them swung and missed at the top here.

All the 2007 elite teams seemed to do well in this draft.

 

[EBF]

Interesting post CP.I wonder if anyone has done a study comparing drafts done by various regimes.For instance, the Bears, Dolphins, Lions and Bucs have done a poor job at the draft in recent memory. All 4 of them swung and missed at the top here.All the 2007 elite teams seemed to do well in this draft.

It would be an interesting study, but I don't think it would be very useful for our purposes because front office personal is liable to change at the drop of a hat. For example, the Texans were terrible in the draft when Charlie Casserly was their GM. Now they seem to be making smart personnel moves, so it's kind of useless to consider their legacy of poor drafting. It's no longer relevant.

 

[loose circuits]

In a different dynasty league I have Kevin Jones, Julius Jones, and Deuce McAllister. You're right to suggest that these guys simply aren't available. I've received a lot of interest for them, but they're not going anywhere anytime soon. One of the great things about dynasty leagues is that you don't lose your team after a year. It's great to build a RB corps with three top ten dynasty backs and know that you'll be able to keep them around as long as you want to. That's part of the appeal for me.

EBF, how did that work out for you?Some great insight in that thread, thanks for sharing. I just got a chuckle out of this cause it had to bite him in the tail...

 

[EBF]

In a different dynasty league I have Kevin Jones, Julius Jones, and Deuce McAllister. You're right to suggest that these guys simply aren't available. I've received a lot of interest for them, but they're not going anywhere anytime soon. One of the great things about dynasty leagues is that you don't lose your team after a year. It's great to build a RB corps with three top ten dynasty backs and know that you'll be able to keep them around as long as you want to. That's part of the appeal for me.

EBF, how did that work out for you?Some great insight in that thread, thanks for sharing. I just got a chuckle out of this cause it had to bite him in the tail...

Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. I've valued WRs > RBs in PPR for at least two years now.

 

[loose circuits]

In a different dynasty league I have Kevin Jones, Julius Jones, and Deuce McAllister. You're right to suggest that these guys simply aren't available. I've received a lot of interest for them, but they're not going anywhere anytime soon. One of the great things about dynasty leagues is that you don't lose your team after a year. It's great to build a RB corps with three top ten dynasty backs and know that you'll be able to keep them around as long as you want to. That's part of the appeal for me.

EBF, how did that work out for you?Some great insight in that thread, thanks for sharing. I just got a chuckle out of this cause it had to bite him in the tail...

Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. I've valued WRs > RBs in PPR for at least two years now.

I do as well. Hell, last year I traded away 1.4, 1.7, 1.11 and Heath Miller for Andre Johnson and 2 mid 2nd round picks. I didn't really like any of the top guys (thought the bust rate looked good). This year, however, I see the changing of the guard with so many RB options I really like and a receiving class that's muddled where you could get good WR prospects in the 3rd. Unfortunately, I trade away my 3rd round pick to get a WR for a playoff push that failed because I needed an emergency fill in when my top 3 guys AJ, Javon, and CJ21 were all ineffective or hurt.In PPR, I think you can get by with mediocre backs if you have a solid, healthy WR core

 

[EBF]

I think WRs are the key to long-term success in PPR dynasties. This is especially true if you have flexible lineups that don't force you to start 2-3 RBs each week. In one of my PPR leagues I have Adrian Peterson and Reggie Bush, but I actually consider Larry Fitzgerald my most valuable player. He's the only guy on my team I can't see myself trading.

In that seam league I'm currently only rostering 2-3 RBs of note (Bush, ADP, Chester). Meanwhile I have Larry Fitzgerald, Santonio Holmes, Santana Moss, Bernard Berrian, Laveranues Coles, Mark Clayton, Michael Clayton, Laurent Robinson, Sidney Rice, and Reggie Williams.

You can never have enough good WRs in a PPR dynasty. They outscore lots of RBs, they don't get hurt as often, and they have longer careers. Most of the teams at the bottom of the ladder in this league are especially weak at WR, which isn't a coincidence.

 

[az_prof]

I'd like to quote post #13 from the "Beto" thread to illustrate the risk in valuing rookie picks too highly. The post was by our highly regarded Bloom, in March of '05 before that year's NFL draft:

1.05 is not a reach this year.

any of brown, caddy, benson, edwards or mike williams could end being a fantasy superstud, and all project to be above average fantasy starters at worst. i hate to say "cant miss", but these 5 have earned the label. honestly the 1.05 is not worth that much less than the 1.01 this year if you dont specifically need an RB.

See the statements I put in bold?After three seasons, where are we with these "can't miss" guys:

Ronnie Brown - Did OK in both 2005 and 2006 but wasn't dominating. FINALLY had a stud year going for 7 weeks in 2007 before injury put him on the shelf for the year. New coaching staff now, Ricky is coming back, and Ronnie has a serious injury to recover from, so it's hard to say how big a share of the load he'll get in 2008.

Cadillac Williams - decent rookie year, bust in 2006, hurt in 2007, future very cloudy due to severity of patella tendon injury.

Cedric Benson - minor player in 2005, more active in 2006 but still light duty, full role in 2007 was awful, then injured. Bears talking now about bringing in new blood in 2008.

Braylon Edwards - the stud of the group. OK for a rookie in 2005, nice advance in 2006, monster year in 2007. And yet, how many in need or greed passed on him to reach for 2nd round RB Eric Shelton, who was supposed to come in and take the job from Foster but was a complete washout? I know that a lot of people did.

Mike Williams - uh, yeah. Ouch.

OK, so among this "can't miss" group, we have one bona fide stud in Edwards if you had the patience to draft him instead of RB Shelton and wait for him to break out (remember, he was drafted onto an awful offensive team at the time with no stability at QB). Brown has had his moments but also has disappointed his owners. And the other three certainly are not players you would have wanted to trade top-30 veterans for. And of course Shelton, typically drafted 4th or 5th in rookie fantasy drafts that year (either ahead of or behind Edwards) was another complete disaster.

This isn't to knock Bloom at all. I respect him a lot, and we were all high on this group. Just look at where the NFL drafted these guys, all very high in the 1st round (and Shelton in the 2nd). But it is a cautionary tale, that trusting in rookie picks is a risky proposition.

I don't disagree with your basic premise: that rookie picks are overvalued and that lots of "can't miss prospects" do in fact "miss."However, your analysis is not balanced. You looked at what has happened to the top picks over the past several years but not what has happened to the top 30 players from the year before that draft. How many of them got hurt? How many of them lost their starting jobs? I bet Ricky Williams was one of them and would you have wanted him or Ronnie Brown the past three years?

Also, your analysis of those rookies is not quite right. While none of them except Edwards have quite lived up to their hype, they haven't all busted and their careers are not over. Brown showed that he is an elite back when he gets decent blocking this past year. He will recover from his injury and likely go on to be a top 10 RB. Caddy? He was a middle of the road RB and yes, his injury is possibly career threatening. But injuries happen and I guess lots of the people that might have been traded for him in our hypothetical trade are already out of the league. Benson and Mike Williams have been pretty much flops.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

This may be a pipe dream, but does anybody have a reference or opinion for each first round rookie draft pick = to what level of current player. Example guess:1.1 = top 2 RB or top 2 WR1.2 = top 3 RB or top 3 WR1.3 = ?????1.4 = ?????continue through 1.12Certain players could be listed but it would probably be easier to go by rankings and everyone could use their own rankings from there.

Beto's study and my Dynasty Draft Pick Calculator can go a long way in figuring this out for your league.I just re-pinned the 2007 Dynasty Thread and all that stuff is inside (and more).

 

[KellysHeroes]

Doing some research; thpught this should be bumped

 

[Garts]

I dealt LT for 1.02 and 1.03 2008 and a 1st 2009.

So I guess I get Mendenhall and Stewart (outside shot at McFadden if #1 passes on him...which I doubt) as a start...and a #1 next year

 

[MAC_32]

I don't think you can create an accurate value chart, too many factors to take into account. You should be able to develop a better valuation in due time, but like when you began playing fantasy football it's going to take time before you get it down. I'll offer some examples in my leagues of recent trades

Team 1

Just inherited a TERRIBLE team...this is how it looks right now after some deals

Bulger/Quinn/Huard/Holcomb/Troy Smith

W Parker/L White/A Green/Davenport/C Brown/K Irons/Musa/N Davenport/A Train/Toefield/B Calhoun

Welker/Evans/Crayton/Hagan/Lance Moore/Jacoby Jones/Joe Horn/Martin Nance/Kennison

Ben Patrick

M Crosby/J Reed

T Hali/Ty Warren/Geathers/Rucker/Cullen Jenkins

Brooking/Haggans/M Washington/Timmons

Bigby/Reggie Nelson/Cromartie/C Tillman/Collins

Deals I've made so far:

-Got Bulger + Quinn + Welker + LenDale for rookie pick 1.02 + Heath Miller + Zach Thomas

-I got rookie pick 2.06 for Joey Galloway + rookie pick 5.02

I am actively trying to deal Brooking and hope to deal A Green or C Brown if the opportunity presents itself

Team 2

McNabb/Bulger/K Clemens/A Rodgers/Garcia

Reggie Bush/KJ/Thomas Jones/Pierre Thomas/Kolby Smith/A Pittman

Randy Moss/Evans/Reggie Brown/B Johnson/Meachem/J Hill/D Patten/Laurent Robinson

Heap/Scheffler/J Stevens

Some kicker

Baltimore D/Tennessee D

Deals I've made

-Got K Clemens for pick 3.01

-Got McNabb + Randy Moss + pick 3.11 for pick 1.01 + Hackett + Michael Bush

-Got pick 2.02 for Edgerrin James

Hope this helps...

 

[sheerterror]

I dealt LT for 1.02 and 1.03 2008 and a 1st 2009.So I guess I get Mendenhall and Stewart (outside shot at McFadden if #1 passes on him...which I doubt) as a start...and a #1 next year

That's great value IMO.