Trading draft picks away in redraft? (1 Viewer)

[LittlePhatty]

What's the point? It doesn't make much sense to me to give up a pick next year in a redraft league. Yet a lot of my trade offers lately have been returned with counter-offers asking for a draft pick next year. It makes sense in a dynasty league of course because you are trading for a player you get to keep forever. But in redraft, you're paying too much for disposable goods. It's like taking out a loan from the bank to buy a condemned house.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Uhh yeah this isn't a thing.

 

[utche96]

I hate the idea of allowing a trade of future draft picks for non-keeper players. I can see a scenario where someone basically trades away his future picks to do well in the current year and then just quits the league. This isn't the NFL where owners own equity in a real asset. Its f'n fantasy football.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

i think you have it somewhat backwards. People overvalue draft picks. Most championship redraft teams are built not just through the draft but also through in-season trades and free agency.

Assuming you're playing for money, at this point in the season you can give up a pick in next years draft, with indeterminate value, for a piece that will help vault you into the playoffs/championship game.

There was a stretch of a couple years in my local redraft league where I would make a big trade mid season, giving up a first round pick for a proven player I needed. Some people complained that it would upset the balance for me to go into the following year's draft without a first rounder but year after year, I kept making the finals and the people who got my first round pick kept missing the playoffs.

Don't overestimate your ability to use draft picks wisely. It's a lot easier to identify who's good in November than it is in August. Use that to your advantage.

 

[matuski]

No.

 

[LittlePhatty]

I should clarify that this is a "keep 3" league with keepers getting slotted two rounds higher than the previous year. But for purposes of this argue meant it is basically redraft because players drafted in the first 4 rounds cannot be kept. And a lot of the draft pick trades I see include players that can't be kept.

 

[Godsbrother]

We used to allow it but it got to a point a couple of years ago where a team that got off to an 0-5 start traded Drew Brees (non-keeper) for his buddy's #3 pick. This is when we used to allow QB as a flex and his buddy also had Peyton Manning so he just ran away with the season. What really pissed people off is that he didn't even try to shop Brees around to another team to possibly get a #2 or #1 pick. The ironic thing was the team that started 0-5 got on a roll and would have made the playoffs had he kept Brees.

After that we passed a rule that you can't trade draft picks period.

 

[FUBAR]

i think you have it somewhat backwards. People overvalue draft picks. Most championship redraft teams are built not just through the draft but also through in-season trades and free agency.

Assuming you're playing for money, at this point in the season you can give up a pick in next years draft, with indeterminate value, for a piece that will help vault you into the playoffs/championship game.

There was a stretch of a couple years in my local redraft league where I would make a big trade mid season, giving up a first round pick for a proven player I needed. Some people complained that it would upset the balance for me to go into the following year's draft without a first rounder but year after year, I kept making the finals and the people who got my first round pick kept missing the playoffs.

Don't overestimate your ability to use draft picks wisely. It's a lot easier to identify who's good in November than it is in August. Use that to your advantage.

if your league allows it, I'd completely agree with you. None of my redrafts ever had allowed it.

I should clarify that this is a "keep 3" league with keepers getting slotted two rounds higher than the previous year. But for purposes of this argue meant it is basically redraft because players drafted in the first 4 rounds cannot be kept. And a lot of the draft pick trades I see include players that can't be kept.

Yeah, that's not redraft and trading a future pick for a current asset makes a lot more sense in keeper than redrafts.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Uhh yeah this isn't a thing.

Yeah, I don't think I have ever heard of such a thing either. Mainly because redrafts are so non-committal in terms of participation. You get a lot of people who opt in or opt out at the last second. You need some kind of monetary committment to make sure your future draft pick is worth anything. Keeper and dynasty leagues usually hold a deposit to make sure these types of draft pick for player deals are above board.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Uhh yeah this isn't a thing.

Yeah, I don't think I have ever heard of such a thing either. Mainly because redrafts are so non-committal in terms of participation. You get a lot of people who opt in or opt out at the last second. You need some kind of monetary committment to make sure your future draft pick is worth anything. Keeper and dynasty leagues usually hold a deposit to make sure these types of draft pick for player deals are above board.

To be honest, it kind of baffles me that any but the most hard-core redraft leagues would even consider allowing something like this. [SIZE=14.4444446563721px]It's fairly rare in my experience for any 12+ team redraft to go into the season with exactly the same set of owners as the preceding season anyway.[/SIZE]

What's to keep an owner from trading away multiple picks next year for production this year, riding those guys to a championship, then just saying, "Ehhh, I'm out" the following summer?

I mean, if the rules allow it, then yeah, I'd take full advantage of it ... but this seems like a classic freeroll opportunity for owners not over-burdened by ethics.

 

[habsfan]

These keepers lie in that murky area between redraft and dynasty. It really comes down to continuity of ownership from year to year and the amount of headaches you're willing to endure to support this "enhancement".

 

[shadyridr]

I should clarify that this is a "keep 3" league with keepers getting slotted two rounds higher than the previous year. But for purposes of this argue meant it is basically redraft because players drafted in the first 4 rounds cannot be kept. And a lot of the draft pick trades I see include players that can't be kept.

Yeah thats not a redraft

 

[LittlePhatty]

I should clarify that this is a "keep 3" league with keepers getting slotted two rounds higher than the previous year. But for purposes of this argue meant it is basically redraft because players drafted in the first 4 rounds cannot be kept. And a lot of the draft pick trades I see include players that can't be kept.

Yeah thats not a redraft

Might as we'll be if the trade involves players from the first 4 rounds like I said, since they can't be kept.

 

[habsfan]

I should clarify that this is a "keep 3" league with keepers getting slotted two rounds higher than the previous year. But for purposes of this argue meant it is basically redraft because players drafted in the first 4 rounds cannot be kept. And a lot of the draft pick trades I see include players that can't be kept.

Yeah thats not a redraft

Might as we'll be if the trade involves players from the first 4 rounds like I said, since they can't be kept.

I see that as an input into determining trade value. The real issue is continuity of ownership. If an owner trading draft picks leaves, how do you get someone to take over a "mostly redraft" team and explain they don't get the pick or the player?

 

[Johnny Blood]

Allowing trading of future picks in redraft? Not even once.