Travdogg's positional rankings from week 10 onward (1 Viewer)

[travdogg]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Lamar Jackson (1)
2. Jalen Hurts (2)
3. Josh Allen (4)

Tier 2:
4. Jayden Daniels (3)
5. Joe Burrow (6)
6. Jordan Love (5)
7. Patrick Mahomes (10), was always leaving the light on for him, and while yes it was LV/TB, I don't think its a coincidence his 2 best games came since Hopkins arrived.

Tier 3:
8. Baker Mayfield (11), no Evans/Godwin, no problem, he just keeps chugging along. At least 2 TDs in all but 1 game, and Evans should be back after next week. Mayfield's rushing has been a nice addition for him.
9. Kyler Murray (8)
10. CJ Stroud (7), just looks a little off. Nico coming back will obviously help, but Stroud is in a bit of a sophomore slump.

Tier 4:
11. Brock Purdy (12)
12. Sam Darnold (NR), I don't think its a coincidence that he had a season-high in attempts the week Hockenson came back. I still think KOC wants a pass 1st offense. Had highest scoring game in a month.
13. Bo Nix (NR), sure feels like Payton got his guy. Rushing has been a bit of a surprise, he's actually outperforming Josh Allen on the ground, despite having a rush TD called back on Sunday.
14. Kirk Cousins (15)
15. Caleb Williams (NR), more about wanting to move others down that moving him up. Still, I think he's not gonna be as bad as he was the last 2 weeks going forward.

Dropped off: Dak Prescott (9), IR stint requires drop, and frankly, he'd been underachieving anyway. I wouldn't be shocked if Dallas didn't look much different without him, as Cooper Rush isn't a Skylar Thompson type who will crater the offense. Jared Goff (13), has topped 25 attempts since week 2, and doesn't run. Does have nice matchups the next 2 weeks, but just isn't my type at all. Lions D also hasn't fallen off without Hutchinson, which is a little surprising, as I had Hutch as the DPOY when he went down. Geno Smith (14), on the one hand, he's coming off his highest scoring game of the week, on the other, he is 100% the reason they lost, and I have some concerns they might turn to Sam Howell if these turnovers keep happening. I don't think Howell would be better, but this staff owes Geno nothing.

 

[travdogg]

RB
Tier 1:
1. Derrick Henry (1)
2. Saquon Barkley (2)
3. Jahmyr Gibbs (4)
4. Kyren Williams (3)
5. Bijan Robinson (5)
6. Breece Hall (6)

Tier 2:
7. Joe Mixon (7)
8. Alvin Kamara (10)
9. Jonathan Taylor (8)
10. De'Von Achane (14), he's passed Waddle in the receiving pecking order, as quick throws to him keep Tua from being hit. Why they didn't run these when Tua was out is a mystery. Seeing a very prime Kamara workload, and if he gets some GL work (Mostert fumble lost them the game) going forward, has tier 1 upside.
11. Christian McCaffrey (11)

Tier 3:
12. Kenneth Walker (9)
13. James Cook (12)
14. David Montgomery (13)
15. D'Andre Swift (15)
16. Josh Jacobs (17)
17. Aaron Jones (16)

Tier 4:
18. JK Dobbins (22), Chargers offense has 2 best games the last 2 weeks. Probably due to Herbert getting further from his injury. That's led to more consistent leads, and TD chances for Dobbins. No real threat to his touches, and I wonder if Gus is ahead of Vidal when he comes back.
19. Brian Robinson (19)
20. Isiah Pacheco (20)
21. James Conner (18)
22. Tony Pollard (21)
23. Rhamondre Stevenson (27), like Dobbins, better QB play is helping the TD chances. Below 3 YPC over the last 3, but job is in zero danger. Has high upside if Maye keeps the offense improving.

Tier 5:
24. Chase Brown (29), had an excellent game against the Raiders (as he should have) but now Herbert is there, and I think he's a better RB than Moss is, certainly as a runner at least. Brown earned a bump up, but he's still a sell-high in my eyes. He, Hunt, Otton, and Flowers would probably top my sell-high list. For the record, my buy-low list would be Pacheco, Lamb, DK and Deebo.
25. Rachaad White (24)
26. Tyrone Tracy (NR), playing 65% since Singletary has been back. Job is his, unfortunately offense is bad, so ceiling is only so high.
27. Nick Chubb (25)

Tier 6:
28. Kareem Hunt (26)
29. Chuba Hubbard (23), nice bounce back in week 9, but Brooks is looming. I don't think he'll lose the starting job, but close to a 50-50 split is reasonable, with Brooks getting the pass game work.
30. Bucky Irving (30)

Dropped off: Tank Bigsby (28), outcarried Etienne, but the most important play of the game had Johnson on the field, so its tough to think this isn't gonna be a heavy RBBC and its likely Etienne gets more work the healthier he gets.

 

[travdogg]

WR
Tier 1:
1. Justin Jefferson (3)
2. Ja'Marr Chase (2)
3. AJ Brown (1)
4. CeeDee Lamb (4)

Tier 2:
5. Nico Collins (9)
6. Amon-Ra St. Brown (6)
7. Malik Nabers (5)
8. Tyreek Hill (8)

Tier 3:
9. Cooper Kupp (10)
10. Garrett Wilson (17), Adams addition hasn't changed Wilson's target share much at all, but has led to far more single coverage, and more pass heavy offense. Congrats to all who bought low when the Adams deal happened.
11. Drake London (7)
12. Puka Nacua (12)

Tier 4:
13. Terry McLaurin (16)
14. DeVonta Smith (21), has 64 yards or a TD in all but 1 game so far. AJ Brown avoided major injury, but Smith has capitalized on any situation where Brown hasn't been healthy. He'd be a #1 on many teams.
15. DK Metcalf (15)
16. Deebo Samuel (11)
17. Davante Adams (13)

Tier 5:
18. Jayden Reed (20)
19. Brian Thomas (19)
20. Tee Higgins (14), its really frustrating how much this guy gets hurt, and its seemingly always something. He was pushing for 1B status and was leading in targets and catches per game before this latest injury. Likely instantly jumps back into being a high-end WR2 when he's back, but how long will that last?
21. Zay Flowers (23)
22. Marvin Harrison (22)
23. DJ Moore (18)

Tier 6:
24. Mike Evans (24)
25. Darnell Mooney (29)
26. George Pickens (25)

Tier 7:
27. Tank Dell (31)
28. DeAndre Hopkins (32)
29. Jaylen Waddle (28)

Tier 8:
30. Josh Downs (NR), seems to be Flacco's preferred target, and the Colts declared him the rest of season starter. I think Pittman's back issue getting better could change the pecking order, but no lock that happens.
31. Ladd McConkey (34)
32. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (36)
33. Amari Cooper (26), there's an argument for buying low. He could run away with the #1 job once he's healthy and up to speed, but he's also a 10th year WR switching teams midseason, and doesn't have the talent that say Adams (or experience with QB) has or even Hopkins has. Targets are likely there to be had though if things break right.

Tier 9:
34. Jakobi Meyers (37)
35. Chris Olave (27), as much flak as Tua gets, Olave has 2 more concussions than he does. I'm not sure Olave gets the 4 game IR treatment, or just sits out a week, and comes back to a close to 30% target share, so I'm not ready to drop him off the list.
36. Michael Pittman (35)

Tier 10:
37. Diontae Johnson (30), its not looking great after one week, where he was behind Agholor, let alone Bateman, in the pecking order. However, I don't wanna be too low on Johnson, who has proven himself across a lot of different QBs, none of whom were as good as Lamar currently is.
38. Khalil Shakir (38)
39. Romeo Doubs (39)
40. Calvin Ridley (NR), 15-216 in 2 games since Hopkins trade. That might be a mirage if Levis is back, but maybe not.

Dropped off: Jameson Williams (33), 20 targets the 1st weeks, 10 the following 4. The distant #2 (at best) in a run heavy offense. Keenan Allen (40), very healthy 7 targets per game, but has only topped 40 yards 1 time. Its possible he's losing it in year 12.

 

[travdogg]

TE
Tier 1:
1. George Kittle (1)
2. Brock Bowers (2)
3. Trey McBride (3)
4. Travis Kelce (4)

Tier 2:
5. Kyle Pitts (5)
6. David Njoku (6)
7. Evan Engram (9), 30 targets in 4 games since returning feels like it will stick. Sort of a 1A/1B with Thomas.
8. Sam LaPorta (7), had been featured a bit more of late (albeit through redzone targets and trick plays) before doing not much again last week. Probably should be lower, but it feels like if the Lions need to pass, he'll be better, they just haven't needed to much. One of the healthier busts this season.
9. Dalton Kincaid (10)
10. Jake Ferguson (8), I think Dak's absence hurts him more than Lamb, as we saw Lamb play well with Rush 2 years ago. Its still mostly a 2-man pass game though, so not dropping him too far.
11. TJ Hockenson (11)

Tier 3:
12. Tucker Kraft (12)
13. Taysom Hill (14)
14. Cade Otton (13)
15. Dallas Goedert (15)

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Unless my eyesight fails me, I don't see Cedric Tillman in the top 40 at WR. Even with Winston throwing picks all over the place, 3 quality fantasy weeks in a row is surely deserving of a top 40 spot? Also Otton is too low. Evans coming back only draws red zone defensive attention away. Nice work though, love reading these.

 

[georg013]

I just don’t understand why Pacheco is even on the list when he has yet to even practice let alone be guaranteed to play during the fantasy season. Best case scenario IF he returns before the NFL playoffs is a time share. He is not getting pre injury/ Hunt signing usage again this season. The Hunt signing feels personal.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Otton should be in tier 2 IMO. He's a chain mover and TB throws it a ton.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

I just don’t understand why Pacheco is even on the list when he has yet to even practice let alone be guaranteed to play during the fantasy season. Best case scenario IF he returns before the NFL playoffs is a time share. He is not getting pre injury/ Hunt signing usage again this season. The Hunt signing feels personal.

He hates Kareem Hunt, that’s why.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Way too low on Conner, Mooney and Otton.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Otton down huh. Should be top 9 at worst imo

 

[IHEARTFF]

These rankings are really good overall as usual though

 

[Ray_T]

Otton should be in tier 2 IMO. He's a chain mover and TB throws it a ton.

hes the most underrated TE in the NFL today.

based on actual fantasy points scored he ranks #4 overall for TE in standard and #3 overall in PPR formats. given the injuries to the Tampa WR I'd say he is wayyy undervalued. if you get the chance hes a buy if you can get a reasonable price for him. a solid TE1 for the price of a TE2 or a low end TE1. I'll take that all day long

 

[travdogg]

Unless my eyesight fails me, I don't see Cedric Tillman in the top 40 at WR. Even with Winston throwing picks all over the place, 3 quality fantasy weeks in a row is surely deserving of a top 40 spot? Also Otton is too low. Evans coming back only draws red zone defensive attention away. Nice work though, love reading these.

I think there is a very strong chance that Winston isn't starting for long. He's thrown as many picks in 2 games as Watson threw in 7, and Winston has had luck on his side. He could have thrown 2-3 more against the LAC. I think DTR is a guy they wouldn't mind seeing if he's a long-term backup, Winston will not be on this team in 2025, and they had moved him ahead of Winston, he just got hurt in the same game Watson did.

If I could be 100% guaranteed that Winston was the starter all year going forward, I could see Tillman in the 30s. As it is, I think he's a sell-high.

 

[travdogg]

Way too low on Conner, Mooney and Otton.

I understand why some would say I'm too low on Otton, but why the other 2, especially Conner?

Conner is 21st in PPG this season and I have him ranked 21st. He doesn't play 3rd downs and has a day 2 rookie (who the OC says he wants to get more involved) starting to take a little bit more work.

Mooney is 22nd in PPG and I've got him 25th. It doesn't sound like London's injury is serious, so why should he be way higher?

 

[travdogg]

I just don’t understand why Pacheco is even on the list when he has yet to even practice let alone be guaranteed to play during the fantasy season. Best case scenario IF he returns before the NFL playoffs is a time share. He is not getting pre injury/ Hunt signing usage again this season. The Hunt signing feels personal.

I just strongly disagree on Pacheco's best-case scenario. I think Pacheco's best-case scenario is dusting Hunt when he comes back and being an RB1. Not saying that WILL happen, but I don't think it's any more unrealistic than Hunt keeping anything close to this role when Pacheco is back. Pacheco is the starter when he's back, I don't see that as being in question. Rapaport said the target game is Carolina on November 24. So, 2 more missed games.

I don't have anything personal against Hunt, I do think he's not a very good RB, but that's fully based on his play on field. He's being fed volume and getting TDs. That's great for people who have him...right now. He's doing very little with that workload considering how big it is. He's getting a better workload than Henry or Barkley, and he's doing close to the bare minimum with it. Truth be told, I don't think Samaje Perine would be doing worse with this workload, but that's not the point, the point is, despite what his counting stats are, he's shown absolutely nothing to suggest Pacheco won't walk right back into his starting role.

One thing I will fully admit to with these ranks, is always having an eye toward the future, I'll always have injured players maybe a little higher than most, and I'll always have what I consider short term fill-ins a little lower. That's also why I don't tend to have wild swings in my ranks. Guys typically move around very slowly (other than dropping when a guy has a major injury) and I find that strategy has almost always worked better. I hate overreacting, I can accept underreacting.

ETA: I feel the need to remind that these aren't weekly rankings. I absolutely have Hunt as a top 15-20 RB this week, and Otton as a top 8 TE this week. But they are both going to lose value in my opinion, so for going forward rankings they are ranked appropriately for that logic. If Hunt somehow holds off Pacheco, or Otton stays as big a part of the offense when Evans is back, I'll eat crow and adjust accordingly. I'm not betting on either happening though.

 

[georg013]

I just don’t understand why Pacheco is even on the list when he has yet to even practice let alone be guaranteed to play during the fantasy season. Best case scenario IF he returns before the NFL playoffs is a time share. He is not getting pre injury/ Hunt signing usage again this season. The Hunt signing feels personal.

I just strongly disagree on Pacheco's best-case scenario. I think Pacheco's best-case scenario is dusting Hunt when he comes back and being an RB1. Not saying that WILL happen, but I don't think it's any more unrealistic than Hunt keeping anything close to this role when Pacheco is back. Pacheco is the starter when he's back, I don't see that as being in question. Rapaport said the target game is Carolina on November 24. So, 2 more missed games.

I don't have anything personal against Hunt, I do think he's not a very good RB, but that's fully based on his play on field. He's being fed volume and getting TDs. That's great for people who have him...right now. He's doing very little with that workload considering how big it is. He's getting a better workload than Henry or Barkley, and he's doing close to the bare minimum with it. Truth be told, I don't think Samaje Perine would be doing worse with this workload, but that's not the point, the point is, despite what his counting stats are, he's shown absolutely nothing to suggest Pacheco won't walk right back into his starting role.

One thing I will fully admit to with these ranks, is always having an eye toward the future, I'll always have injured players maybe a little higher than most, and I'll always have what I consider short term fill-ins a little lower. That's also why I don't tend to have wild swings in my ranks. Guys typically move around very slowly (other than dropping when a guy has a major injury) and I find that strategy has almost always worked better. I hate overreacting, I can accept underreacting.

ETA: I feel the need to remind that these aren't weekly rankings. I absolutely have Hunt as a top 15-20 RB this week, and Otton as a top 8 TE this week. But they are both going to lose value in my opinion, so for going forward rankings they are ranked appropriately for that logic. If Hunt somehow holds off Pacheco, or Otton stays as big a part of the offense when Evans is back, I'll eat crow and adjust accordingly. I'm not betting on either happening though.

See you the week of the Carolina game!

 

[TheWinz]

Cade Otton gets 11 targets in week 9, cashes in for 8/77/1, is TE3 for the week, and he moves down a spot? He is TE3 for the year, and has been TE1 since week 5.

 

[TheWinz]

Cade Otton gets 11 targets in week 9, cashes in for 8/77/1, is TE3 for the week, and he moves down a spot? He is TE3 for the year, and has been TE1 since week 5.

By the way, I didn't mean Otton has been a TE1 since week 5... I meant he IS THE TE1 since week 5!

 

[Chaka]

Great work as always.

And, as always you have my guys too low.

 

[Anarchy99]

Is not listing Drake Maye an oversight? Over the last 4 weeks, he ranked as the QB8. He'll continue to get rushing yardage, garbage time production, and some passing TD . . . even if the team itself is terrible. The defense can't stop anyone, they haven't been able to run the ball, and Maye is carrying what little offense they have.

 

[travdogg]

Is not listing Drake Maye an oversight? Over the last 4 weeks, he ranked as the QB8. He'll continue to get rushing yardage, garbage time production, and some passing TD . . . even if the team itself is terrible. The defense can't stop anyone, they haven't been able to run the ball, and Maye is carrying what little offense they have.

Not an oversight, just don't have him in my top-15. I do like him as a talent (I thought he was the right pick at #3) but I am very concerned about him staying on the field, I also really hate his fantasy playoff schedule. Buf/LAC are awful draws.

I do think they found their guy though.

 

[zoonation]

the Otton ranking is unsupportable on any level.

 

[BassNBrew]

CMAC way too low. You kept him on the list all year in hopes of a comeback. Comeback time is here. Should be tier 1.

 

[the spanker]

CMAC way too low. You kept him on the list all year in hopes of a comeback. Comeback time is here. Should be tier 1.

Yes agree. Tier 1 for one or two games then ouch.

 

[travdogg]

CMAC way too low. You kept him on the list all year in hopes of a comeback. Comeback time is here. Should be tier 1.

He could fly up to tier 1 for sure. Just want conformation he's still CMC.

I do wonder if he gets used in more of an Achane-like role. Where he sees 5-6 catches, and only 10-12 carries. Just in an effort to keep him healthy.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

CMAC way too low. You kept him on the list all year in hopes of a comeback. Comeback time is here. Should be tier 1.

He could fly up to tier 1 for sure. Just want conformation he's still CMC.

I do wonder if he gets used in more of an Achane-like role. Where he sees 5-6 catches, and only 10-12 carries. Just in an effort to keep him healthy.

That’s not how Shanahan works.

 

[efactor]

No Najee in the top 30?

 

[Stoneworker]

Courtland Sutton should be on the WR list

Back-to-back games with double digit targets and100yd receiving games, plus 2-2 passing and a TD throw

Currently WR22 in PPR; avg almost 8 tgts/game (even with a 0 target anomaly)

 

[travdogg]

CMAC way too low. You kept him on the list all year in hopes of a comeback. Comeback time is here. Should be tier 1.

He could fly up to tier 1 for sure. Just want conformation he's still CMC.

I do wonder if he gets used in more of an Achane-like role. Where he sees 5-6 catches, and only 10-12 carries. Just in an effort to keep him healthy.

That’s not how Shanahan works.

Maybe not, but this situation hasn't really presented itself before. CMC did have an Achane-like role, when he first got to SF at the 2022 trade deadline. So it wouldn't be unprecedented.

 

[travdogg]

No Najee in the top 30?

While he did have 3 straight 100-yard games before the bye, he's still scoring like an RB3 for the year, and Warren (and Patterson) are healthy now, and could/should contribute more.

He's a guy I think we'll look back at his week 6-8 as his peak.

ETA: He was among the last RB cutoffs.

 

[BassNBrew]

CMAC way too low. You kept him on the list all year in hopes of a comeback. Comeback time is here. Should be tier 1.

He could fly up to tier 1 for sure. Just want conformation he's still CMC.

I do wonder if he gets used in more of an Achane-like role. Where he sees 5-6 catches, and only 10-12 carries. Just in an effort to keep him healthy.

That’s not how Shanahan works.

Maybe not, but this situation hasn't really presented itself before. CMC did have an Achane-like role, when he first got to SF at the 2022 trade deadline. So it wouldn't be unprecedented.

You mean those under 20 carry weeks where he posted 35, 18, 18, 9, 29, and 29 points?

 

[travdogg]

Courtland Sutton should be on the WR list

Back-to-back games with double digit targets and100yd receiving games, plus 2-2 passing and a TD throw

Currently WR22 in PPR; avg almost 8 tgts/game (even with a 0 target anomaly)

Back-to-back 100 yard games against 2 of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. He was in the 50-40 cutoff. The WR22 is very health related in my opinion. He's more of a WR4 to me.

 

[Anarchy99]

Counting last night, Mark Andrews has been the TE6 in PPG since Week 5 (6 games). It appears he is back in the offensive game plan for the Ravens. He didn't make this week's Top 15 moving forward.

 

[cheese]

Really good list, but I'm going to have to side with the mob on both Otton and CMC.

The Niners are 4-4. Their focus is going to be on scoring points and winning games.

 

[travdogg]

Counting last night, Mark Andrews has been the TE6 in PPG since Week 5 (6 games). It appears he is back in the offensive game plan for the Ravens. He didn't make this week's Top 15 moving forward.

I had him about 13 or so and rising, until last Tuesday. Was definitely expecting Diontae Johnson to be much more involved than he has been.

 

[cheese]

I think Achane is already tier1 for any game Tua dresses. If you look at his splits, it's crazy how much he was impacted by no QB.

 

[travdogg]

I think Achane is already tier1 for any game Tua dresses. If you look at his splits, it's crazy how much he was impacted by no QB.

He might be. Achane is probably my most rostered player this year (now that Godwin is done) so I may be being a little too, let's say wary, on him, as I really don't wanna be one of those people who lets my own roster determine my rankings.

 

[BassNBrew]

I think Achane is already tier1 for any game Tua dresses. If you look at his splits, it's crazy how much he was impacted by no QB.

He might be. Achane is probably my most rostered player this year (now that Godwin is done) so I may be being a little too, let's say wary, on him, as I really don't wanna be one of those people who lets my own roster determine my rankings.

Goff and Otton on your roster

 

[Tau837]

Unless my eyesight fails me, I don't see Cedric Tillman in the top 40 at WR. Even with Winston throwing picks all over the place, 3 quality fantasy weeks in a row is surely deserving of a top 40 spot? Also Otton is too low. Evans coming back only draws red zone defensive attention away. Nice work though, love reading these.

I think there is a very strong chance that Winston isn't starting for long. He's thrown as many picks in 2 games as Watson threw in 7, and Winston has had luck on his side. He could have thrown 2-3 more against the LAC. I think DTR is a guy they wouldn't mind seeing if he's a long-term backup, Winston will not be on this team in 2025, and they had moved him ahead of Winston, he just got hurt in the same game Watson did.

If I could be 100% guaranteed that Winston was the starter all year going forward, I could see Tillman in the 30s. As it is, I think he's a sell-high.

Small sample size for Winston so far, and worth pointing out that the Chargers defense is really good. Not sure how much we should specifically take from that game.

 

[Stoneworker]

Courtland Sutton should be on the WR list

Back-to-back games with double digit targets and100yd receiving games, plus 2-2 passing and a TD throw

Currently WR22 in PPR; avg almost 8 tgts/game (even with a 0 target anomaly)

Back-to-back 100 yard games against 2 of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. He was in the 50-40 cutoff. The WR22 is very health related in my opinion. He's more of a WR4 to me.

6/70/1 on 9 targets against the #5 defense in the NFL

Look forward to his inclusion in next week's rankings