Travdogg's positional rankings from week 11 onward (1 Viewer)

[travdogg]

QB
Tier 1:
1. Lamar Jackson (1)
2. Jalen Hurts (2)
3. Josh Allen (3)

Tier 2:
4. Baker Mayfield (8), coming off 2 lower scoring weeks, but he looked damn impressive against last year's Super Bowl teams. Should get Evans back after the bye, Otton has established himself, the RBs can catch, and he's chipping in 26 rush yards a game. Defense is also maybe NFL's worst.
5. Joe Burrow (5)
6. Jayden Daniels (4)
7. Patrick Mahomes (7)

Tier 3:
8. Brock Purdy (11), 4 straight 20+ weeks, and is 2nd in the NFL in passing yards. Rush TDs were probably fluky, especially with CMC back, but weapons are as deep as ever, even with Aiyuk on IR. Schedule is really rough, but he could be tier 2 soon.
9. Jordan Love (6), extremely boom/bust, but the booms can be QB1 overall booms. Makes some of the dumbest throws you'll ever see, but is a playmaker. Packers are very pass heavy inside the 10.
10. Kyler Murray (9)
11. CJ Stroud (10)

Tier 4:
12. Bo Nix (13)
13. Kirk Cousins (14)
14. Justin Herbert (NR), been as good an NFL QB as anyone over the last few weeks. 19+ points in all those games, and the rushing has come back the further he's gotten removed from injury. Schedule is great coming up.
15. Caleb Williams (15)

Dropped off: Sam Darnold (12), has looked a lot like Jets Darnold in recent weeks, despite great matchups. Darrisaw loss seems like most likely culprit if you wanna pass the buck from Darnold.

 

[travdogg]

RB
Tier 1:
1. Derrick Henry (1)
2. Saquon Barkley (2)
3. Kyren Williams (4)
4. Bijan Robinson (5)
5. Breece Hall (6)
6. Christian McCaffrey (11), basically back to his usual role. Looked slightly sluggish in first week back, but he could move up higher once the rust comes off. 49ers offense could be ready to explode.

Tier 2:
7. Joe Mixon (7)
8. Jahmyr Gibbs (3)
9. Alvin Kamara (8)
10. Kenneth Walker (12)
11. De'Von Achane (10)

Tier 3:
12. Jonathan Taylor (9)
13. James Conner (21), Benson has been getting more involved, but the Cards are an improving team and Conner is playing at an elite level. He likely caps out as a high-end RB2, but he's an extremely consistent one.
14. Josh Jacobs (16)

Tier 4:
15. James Cook (13)
16. David Montgomery (14)
17. Aaron Jones (17)
18. D'Andre Swift (15)

Tier 5:
19. Chuba Hubbard (29), having an excellent season, and got a big extension which quells a lot of Brooks concerns. At least 17 touches every game since week 3.
20. JK Dobbins (18)
21. Rhamondre Stevenson (23)
22. Tony Pollard (22)
23. Chase Brown (24)
24. Tyrone Tracy (26)

Tier 6:
25. Kareem Hunt (28)
26. Brian Robinson (19), has been fighting some injuries, and my gut says he's looking at a bigger timeshare when he comes back than it was before he got hurt.
27. Isiah Pacheco (20), perhaps was a bit overzealous with my ranking before. Is said to be due back for the Carolina game in 2 weeks. Possible he gets brought along slowly, but I would bet he'll be 50-50 soon enough and could potentially relegate Hunt to more of a #2/GL role.
28. Najee Harris (NR), has at least 16 touches in every game, and while RBBC concerns exist, Warren almost fumbling the game away likely will stick with coaches. Remaining schedule is brutal though, so upside is limited.
29. Rachaad White (25)
30. Bucky Irving (30)

Dropped off: Nick Chubb (27), On the one hand, he's had a brutal schedule since coming back and has stepped into his normal 15+ carry role. On the other, he clearly doesn't look like himself, not that anyone expected him to, and the Browns OL is suddenly bad.

 

[travdogg]

WR
Tier 1:
1. Ja'Marr Chase (1)
2. Justin Jefferson (2)
3. AJ Brown (3)
4. Amon-Ra St. Brown (6)

Tier 2:
5. Nico Collins (5)
6. CeeDee Lamb (4)
7. Tyreek Hill (8)

Tier 3:
8. Cooper Kupp (9)
9. Drake London (11)
10. Garrett Wilson (10)
11. Malik Nabers (7)
12. Puka Nacua (12)

Tier 4:
13. Terry McLaurin (13)
14. DK Metcalf (15)
15. Zay Flowers (21), quiet in Bengals game, but had 100+ yards in 4 of 5 before that. I had him lower based on Diontae Johnson trade, and that looks like a mistake right now. Flowers is the clear #1 here and is a threat against any defense because you can't prioritize stopping him.
16. DeVonta Smith (14)
17. Deebo Samuel (16)

Tier 5:
18. Jayden Reed (18)
19. Tee Higgins (20)
20. Mike Evans (24), sounds like he'll be back after the bye week, and will be returning to a bigger target share than he left behind. Only thing keeping him low for him, is potential for re-injury as hamstrings are tricky and Evans has a rough history with them. Will need to average 95 YPG to get to 1000, which feels unlikely.
21. Marvin Harrison (22)
22. George Pickens (26)
23. Davante Adams (17), all the periphery things look great. High targets, specifically in the redzone, but Adams himself just looks meh. He was getting all the separation in the world against Houston, but that was all on downfield stuff, which isn't how they are typically using him. It would honestly make more sense for NYJ to have Adams outside and Wilson in the slot, but sensible isn't something the NYJ can be accused of right now. Bounce back potential is there, but impossible to trust.

Tier 6:
24. Darnell Mooney (25)
25. Brian Thomas (19), banged up and who knows with Lawrence's health, but I think he's unstartable with Mac Jones. But probably a WR2 when healthy and with Lawrence.
26. Calvin Ridley (40), feels like a bit of a sell-high, but hard to ignore he's been a top-10 WR since Hopkins trade, and that's with 2 different QBs, and not exactly good matchups. Has more of a talent track record than fellow last 3 game guys like Sutton/Tillman.
27. Ladd McConkey (31)
28. DJ Moore (23)
29. DeAndre Hopkins (28)
30. Jaylen Waddle (29)

Tier 7:
31. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (32)
32. Josh Downs (30)
33. Jakobi Meyers (34)
34. Amari Cooper (33)
35. Tank Dell (27), did lose a TD when Stroud was grossly late finding him in the endzone, but also is mostly struggling to get open. Does his best work when Stroud breaks the pocket, unfortunately, that's not what Stroud does best, and I think that's been evident in Nico's absence. I do wonder if Dell finds himself being less the #2, and more just part of a group of guys behind Nico upon Collins return.

Tier 8:
36. Jameson Williams (NR), always gonna be hurting for targets, but they are committed to giving him deep shots. Boom/bust WR3.
37. Courtland Sutton (NR), this probably isn't a big enough upgrade, I just feel like Sutton's career makes him tough to trust. 30 targets over last 3 games is pretty great though, and much of KC game was against McDuffie.
38. Khalil Shakir (38)
39. Romeo Doubs (39)
40. Cedric Tillman (NR), have some fear Winston doesn't hold the job long, but Tillman has established as clear top-2 option, and arguably #1. Schedule is awful going forward, but that could lead to a fair amount of garbage time.

Dropped off: Chris Olave (35), IR stint, and may not be back this season. Unfortunate for a very talented young WR. Michael Pittman (36), was taking a backseat even before Flacco took over. Extension doesn't look great right now, as eye test said he was never a #1 talent. Diontae Johnson (37), thought he'd be a lot more involved than he's been. Zero threat to Flowers, and isn't even pressing Bateman so far. What's the incentive to feature him more?

 

[travdogg]

TE
Tier 1:
1. George Kittle (1)
2. Brock Bowers (2)
3. Travis Kelce (4)

Tier 2:
4. Trey McBride (3)
5. Cade Otton (14), probably a little late for some, but I was really impressed by his role against SF, a team who defends TEs well, and the schedule is nice going forward. Still not impressed by him as a player, but roles like this are rare, and there is room when Evans comes back, as nobody has stepped up in Godwin's absence.
6. David Njoku (6)

Tier 3:
7. Kyle Pitts (5)
8. Dallas Goedert (15), if not for a tremendous play by Trevon Diggs, he has 2 TDs on Sunday, Has the highest contingency value at the position should one of AJ/Smith go down, as we saw in September. This might be an aggressive rank, but I've always thought VERY highly of his ability, and schedule is gorgeous.
9. Sam LaPorta (8)
10. TJ Hockenson (11)
11. Jake Ferguson (10)

Tier 4:
12. Tucker Kraft (12)
13. Mark Andrews (NR), he's been finding the endzone a lot lately, and looks like Mark Andrews again, but targets are still not great. Only one game over 5 targets, and it was the game Likely missed.
14. Evan Engram (7), worried about Lawrence's health, and even with Lawrence, how high is the upside, in what looks like a broken offense with a lame duck HC.
15. Hunter Henry (NR), coming off a 1-14 game, so why is he suddenly on the list. Well, how many games do you expect NE to control throughout like they did against the Bears. I'd argue there isn't another on the schedule. Henry is very reliant on chase script, but there should be plenty to come. That said, 1 TD isn't a fluke, this isn't a passing team, especially in the redzone.

Dropped off: Dalton Kincaid (9), TE22 per game, and just blew the best window he's gonna have with both Cooper/Coleman out. Now has a banged up knee. Taysom Hill (13), did have an 80+ yard TD called back via penalty, but this isn't an offense to trust anyone other than Kamara.

 

[zoonation]

Nit pick of the week: Chuba currently # 5 fantasy RB. Trav has him as a low-end RB2.

Also, Kamara should be top 5. Most consistent RB out there.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

First impression is Chase Brown is way too low at RB23.

 

[Gally]

Dallas is a dumpster fire. I don't see how Lamb can be in the top 10. His body language is bad, his QB is bad, his coach is bad, his team is bad. There is nothing good in Dallas and I don't see that changing any time soon.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Curious how close Russel Wilson is to top 15. I think at this point, ROS I might take him over Caleb.

 

[Ray_T]

Cade Otton (14), probably a little late for some, but I was really impressed by his role against SF, a team who defends TEs well, and the schedule is nice going forward. Still not impressed by him as a player, but roles like this are rare, and there is room when Evans comes back, as nobody has stepped up in Godwin's absence.

hey, I was one of those voices.

dont get me wrong I'm was not upset (never was) as your picks were not out of line with other experts, but I do think hes probably the most underrated TE in the game today. that said if he was in Tier 3 I likely wouldnt have felt a need to comment on this at all because you have to allow a certain amount of latitude for range of value....... but at the #14 overall for a top 5 in overall TE points for the current year..... it seemed there was a bit of a disconnect. To your credit, you did your homework and came back with a better result. I'm not sure I'd move him higher unless he shows more, but at this point hes shown well.

this is also more in line with actual stats. and Yeah I do agree, hes perhaps overperforming some, but given the injuries to the WR on this team I dont see his usage going down anytime this year. and that makes him valuable.

 

[ShamrockPride]

First impression is Chase Brown is way too low at RB23.

Man is looking like a potential PPR dynamo.

 

[stinkbait]

Tyreek at 7? Why?

 

[travdogg]

Nit pick of the week: Chuba currently # 5 fantasy RB. Trav has him as a low-end RB2.

Also, Kamara should be top 5. Most consistent RB out there.

I'd call RB19 more of a solid RB2 than low-end. That said, that RB5 thing is very much a function of games played. He's RB13 in PPG, and his offense is a threat to go off the rails in any given week. That week 6 through week 8 stretch was pretty average. He's coming off his best game of the season, but a game Carolina led throughout, so a bit of an anomaly.

I'd disagree with Kamara being the most consistent RB out there, I mean, Derrick Henry has scored at least 1 TD in every single game. But I will agree Kamara has been very consistent when Carr has been his QB and not Rattler. I think the guys above him have more upside, and its a little worrisome to me that Kamara hasn't scored a TD in a month, and only has 2 TDs since week 2. He had 5 TDs in the 1st 2 games, against 2 of the 3 worst run defenses in the NFL, one of which he also hit for 215 yards 2 weeks ago. What 4 guys are you moving down below Kamara to get him into the top-5? I'm assuming Kyren/Breece/Mixon/Gibbs?

 

[travdogg]

First impression is Chase Brown is way too low at RB23.

I loved Chase Brown as a prospect coming out. I thought he was a day 3 steal. I liked him as an RB3/4 this offseason, but I'd be lying if I said I was impressed with anything other than his role right now. I'm seeing a guy who volumed his way to good weeks against awful defenses.

I've been pretty unimpressed with Brown since he started getting more work. His efficiency has fallen off a cliff (3.3 or worse YPC in 3 of last 4) and frankly I think he's in more danger from Herbert than people think. I think Herbert can absolutely take the Zack Moss share of touches, just because it didn't happen after being on the team for 48 hours, doesn't mean it won't. The bye in week 12 is probably where that starts to happen, though I'd expect a decent amount of touches this week. Maybe like a 65/35 split. I also think the catches are more a function of Higgins being out, than Brown being a big part of the passing game. Its great to have been starting him these last 2 games, but its been a perfect runout for him.

I'd probably have Brown as a top-15 RB this week, but I still kinda think selling high isn't a bad idea, especially as it seems most people seem to think these last 2 weeks are the new normal.

 

[travdogg]

Dallas is a dumpster fire. I don't see how Lamb can be in the top 10. His body language is bad, his QB is bad, his coach is bad, his team is bad. There is nothing good in Dallas and I don't see that changing any time soon.

I wonder how different you'd feel if he'd had that TD last week.

I don't disagree with most of what you are saying, I just think Lamb is an elite player, and he sees elite volume. I mean, he was one bad sun away from 15 points last week, in a game where his team threw for under 70 yards. That under 70 yards is a 100% fluke and not what is going to be happening every week. I mean, Rush had 115 and a TD in a half the week before against Atlanta, and much of that was without Lamb.

I see Lamb being in the same boat (but a better version) as Malik Nabers. QB is an issue, HC is an issue, bad team is an issue, but the targets are league leading, and garbage time could be plentiful. Also, let's not undersell how good the Eagles defense (and team overall) has been since the bye. The only WR to top 42 yards against them in the last 5 weeks is Ja'Marr Chase, and even he got held to 54. If Rush/Lamb struggle to the same extent against the Texans I'll move him lower.

 

[travdogg]

Curious how close Russel Wilson is to top 15. I think at this point, ROS I might take him over Caleb.

Wilson was in the 20-15 cutdown. I wish he ran a little more, not even prime Russ, but even just 2023 Russ would be huge. Right now, he's running as often as a guy like Goff.

Caleb is right on that edge for me. I'm giving him one more week with the Waldron firing. Hopefully the rushing gets back in the 30+ yards weekly territory and GB offers some chase potential. There wasn't much separating QB12 from QB20.

 

[Ray_T]

Tyreek at 7? Why?

seems reasonable to me. his starting QB is back but we dont fully know if things will go back to the way they were before the most recent concussion.

I would suggest that this is the midpoint of a range of values. some of which are higher and some lower. I dont think its a terrible place for him to be at all.

 

[Ray_T]

Dallas is a dumpster fire. I don't see how Lamb can be in the top 10. His body language is bad, his QB is bad, his coach is bad, his team is bad. There is nothing good in Dallas and I don't see that changing any time soon.

they are a dumpster fire, but through it all, Ceedee was pretty decent. Not top 3 like he usually is, but decent. the loss of Dak hurts, but Rush has been serviceable in Daks absence in the past.

he will get garbage time stats too. personally I would have ranked him around 9 or 10 with the Loss of Dak but I will point out that the stats for the #6 WR and the #10 WR are not THAT far apart. you gotta give a guy a certain amt of latitude for range of value.

 

[Gally]

I wonder how different you'd feel if he'd had that TD last week.

I don't think I would see things much different. Lamb looked checked out. The team looked checked our. Now it could have been the Eagles just dominating but I am not so sure.

 

[zoonation]

Nit pick of the week: Chuba currently # 5 fantasy RB. Trav has him as a low-end RB2.

Also, Kamara should be top 5. Most consistent RB out there.

I'd call RB19 more of a solid RB2 than low-end. That said, that RB5 thing is very much a function of games played. He's RB13 in PPG, and his offense is a threat to go off the rails in any given week. That week 6 through week 8 stretch was pretty average. He's coming off his best game of the season, but a game Carolina led throughout, so a bit of an anomaly.

I'd disagree with Kamara being the most consistent RB out there, I mean, Derrick Henry has scored at least 1 TD in every single game. But I will agree Kamara has been very consistent when Carr has been his QB and not Rattler. I think the guys above him have more upside, and its a little worrisome to me that Kamara hasn't scored a TD in a month, and only has 2 TDs since week 2. He had 5 TDs in the 1st 2 games, against 2 of the 3 worst run defenses in the NFL, one of which he also hit for 215 yards 2 weeks ago. What 4 guys are you moving down below Kamara to get him into the top-5? I'm assuming Kyren/Breece/Mixon/Gibbs?

Kyron, Breece and Gibbs for sure. Mixon is tougher.

 

[Truebluey]

I would swap Kupp and Nacua. Kupp is still great, but he's slower and not getting the targets. Puka had twice as many this week (14 v 7) and will continue to get the bulk. Also his adot is much higher than Kupps.

If you watch the LA games, as i do, Nacua is now the clear #1.

 

[Chaka]

Gibbs puts up 108 yards in 21 touches and drops five spots?

 

[wgoldsph]

Are you on Mahomes payroll? 250 yards and a td is tier two? I didn't know qb was such a waste

 

[travdogg]

Nit pick of the week: Chuba currently # 5 fantasy RB. Trav has him as a low-end RB2.

Also, Kamara should be top 5. Most consistent RB out there.

I'd call RB19 more of a solid RB2 than low-end. That said, that RB5 thing is very much a function of games played. He's RB13 in PPG, and his offense is a threat to go off the rails in any given week. That week 6 through week 8 stretch was pretty average. He's coming off his best game of the season, but a game Carolina led throughout, so a bit of an anomaly.

I'd disagree with Kamara being the most consistent RB out there, I mean, Derrick Henry has scored at least 1 TD in every single game. But I will agree Kamara has been very consistent when Carr has been his QB and not Rattler. I think the guys above him have more upside, and its a little worrisome to me that Kamara hasn't scored a TD in a month, and only has 2 TDs since week 2. He had 5 TDs in the 1st 2 games, against 2 of the 3 worst run defenses in the NFL, one of which he also hit for 215 yards 2 weeks ago. What 4 guys are you moving down below Kamara to get him into the top-5? I'm assuming Kyren/Breece/Mixon/Gibbs?

Kyron, Breece and Gibbs for sure. Mixon is tougher.

Kyren especially is really tough for me to put below Kamara. 20 touches and about an 80% shot of a TD every week. Also has an excellent schedule down the stretch.

 

[travdogg]

I would swap Kupp and Nacua. Kupp is still great, but he's slower and not getting the targets. Puka had twice as many this week (14 v 7) and will continue to get the bulk. Also his adot is much higher than Kupps.

If you watch the LA games, as i do, Nacua is now the clear #1.

I think Kupp is still Stafford's guy in the redzone. But I don't have any problem with someone preferring Puka. I just trust Kupp a little more.

 

[travdogg]

Gibbs puts up 108 yards in 21 touches and drops five spots?

Not due to his performance. More just balancing out the Lions offense. Both Gibbs and Monty moved down a little, both Amon-Ra and Williams moved up a little. Just more of a little tweak, that sticks out the most with Gibbs because he was the highest.

 

[travdogg]

Are you on Mahomes payroll? 250 yards and a td is tier two? I didn't know qb was such a waste

I wish I was on Mahomes payroll.

QB is kind of a wasteland. I probaly could have had Mahomes in tier 3, but I like him a little more than the tier 3 guys. I trust hm more than Love/Kyler, and I want to see what Purdy's TD look like with CMC back (Purdy could soon be jumping up a tier) but yeah, QB/TE are both extremely thin at the top in my opinion.

 

[wgoldsph]

I prefer Love/Kyler - higher upside both, similar floor. Mahomes just needs to lead a scoring drive in the 4th and the rest of the game he can sleep.

 

[travdogg]

I prefer Love/Kyler - higher upside both, similar floor. Mahomes just needs to lead a scoring drive in the 4th and the rest of the game he can sleep.

Kyler doesn't have a similar floor, he's only a week removed from scoring 4 points, which may as well be a goose egg for a QB. He has 3 games under 12 points. Mahomes for all his faults this season has never been under 12, never under 14 in Yahoo scoring.

I also find it notable that 2 of Mahomes 3 best weeks have been since acquiring Hopkins. Matchups have helped but could also just be a sign of things to come.