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Trestman in Baltimore (1 Viewer)

+ torrey smith

- rb

edit: smith is a fa, isn't he?

nvm

maybe + flacco? depending who they get

 
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Who is the TE to own in that offense? I know neither are HUGELY desirable but who has the early advantage?

 
I'd be pretty excited right now if I was a balt fan, honestly

a tough team just got tougher -- and wait 'til they fill out that secondary with legit nfl players

I'll be curious to see how the wr spot shakes out

and my first post was probably completely wrong --- rb should be a ppr bonanza, now that I think about it

could be an exciting team for fantasy

 
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Trestman just seems like a guy that is built to be a great coordinator and not a head coach. I think you can bump Flacco, any pass catching back and the starting tight end.

 
The AFC might be affected. A stronger offense paired with their defense should take them to elite Super Bowl contender status.

 
Who is the TE to own in that offense? I know neither are HUGELY desirable but who has the early advantage?
Pitta. If he is healthy and stays
Problem is Pitta may never recover from that injury.Free agent or Owen Daniels will be someone to stash early if the Pitta's rehab is ahead of schedule narrative starts getting legs. Good bet I target whoever the Ravens draft too.

 
Who is the TE to own in that offense? I know neither are HUGELY desirable but who has the early advantage?
Pitta. If he is healthy and stays
Problem is Pitta may never recover from that injury.Free agent or Owen Daniels will be someone to stash early if the Pitta's rehab is ahead of schedule narrative starts getting legs. Good bet I target whoever the Ravens draft too.
any chance Crockett Gilmore amounts to anything?

 
Who is the TE to own in that offense? I know neither are HUGELY desirable but who has the early advantage?
Pitta. If he is healthy and stays
Problem is Pitta may never recover from that injury.Free agent or Owen Daniels will be someone to stash early if the Pitta's rehab is ahead of schedule narrative starts getting legs. Good bet I target whoever the Ravens draft too.
any chance Crockett Gilmore amounts to anything?
if the ravens stick with Owen (or something along those lines), Pitta, and Gilmore I think that says the Ravens are high on his potential development. If they go hard after tight ends in free agency then probably not.
 
Key pieces are FA, TE is up in the air. Daniels getting long in the tooth, Pitta coming off 2nd straight hip injury (I think this is going to be a hard comeback personally), Forsett a FA, Smith a FA. With Kubiak gone do they resign Forsett, or does Trestman draft a back to fit what he wants or sign a different FA that fits what he wants. I don't see why they would part ways with TSmith, seems like the price will be right and he is an asset, but they need to get a legit wr1. Steve Smith may have half a season left again, but honestly this may be a couple years before this really becomes a great situation. It's not bad, but I think they have a lot of offensive personnal issues to sort out, and I don't think it all gets done this year.

 
12punch said:
Riversco said:
The AFC might be affected. A stronger offense paired with their defense should take them to elite Super Bowl contender status.
I agree -- I don't know about 'elite superbowl', but maybe if they get past the pats
I'm not sure why people think Trestman is an automatic upgrade over Kubiak. The ravens were 6th in total offense this year, they already were quietly a superbowl contender this year.

I'm actually worried about Trestman, his offense regresssed noticably in his 2nd year in Chicago. I wonder how much of that was due to injuries to Marshall/Jeffery and how much was DC's getting a good look his tape.

 
I wish Bal would get a legit WR1. Boldin was the closest they've had since Mason (and even he wasn't the prototype WR1). Who's the best WR Flacco has had? Boldin? Mason? T Smith?

Not exactly an all star corps for a strong armed statue.

 
12punch said:
Riversco said:
The AFC might be affected. A stronger offense paired with their defense should take them to elite Super Bowl contender status.
I agree -- I don't know about 'elite superbowl', but maybe if they get past the pats
I'm not sure why people think Trestman is an automatic upgrade over Kubiak. The ravens were 6th in total offense this year, they already were quietly a superbowl contender this year. I'm actually worried about Trestman, his offense regresssed noticably in his 2nd year in Chicago. I wonder how much of that was due to injuries to Marshall/Jeffery and how much was DC's getting a good look his tape.
It Was Due To Having A ####ty qb

 
12punch said:
Riversco said:
The AFC might be affected. A stronger offense paired with their defense should take them to elite Super Bowl contender status.
I agree -- I don't know about 'elite superbowl', but maybe if they get past the pats
I'm not sure why people think Trestman is an automatic upgrade over Kubiak. The ravens were 6th in total offense this year, they already were quietly a superbowl contender this year.

I'm actually worried about Trestman, his offense regresssed noticably in his 2nd year in Chicago. I wonder how much of that was due to injuries to Marshall/Jeffery and how much was DC's getting a good look his tape.
I agree. Kubiak installed the zone-blocking scheme that made a journeyman RB into a 1,000 yard rusher ALA his mentor Mike Shanahan who hired Alex Gibbs who perfected the zone-blocking scheme that Kubiak learned and installed with another Gibbs disciple Rick Dennison that he has had with him in Houston and where both helped bring that to the Ravens. Kubiak also stole/learned the moving pocket passing game from Mike Shanahan and has that as a staple of his offense.

The Ravens O-Line took to the zone-blocking system and Flacco moves well in the pocket and fit the moving pocket passing system.

Tressman's system is notoriously complicated. It will take time for the players to learn and I don't see him keeping the zone-blocking scheme so the running game 'could' and probably will tail off some but the RBs will catch more passes if they have that skill set.

I see a period of adjusting to a new complex system but I like Tressman and think he'll be fine but think their will be bumps along the way.

 
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They lost a good offensive mind and hired another one.

Don't really see any noticeable difference for Flacco or the WR's and TE's.

RB is interesting, whoever that is. Not many OC's I'd trust more for RB production than Kubiak but speaking in terms of fantasy production not sure I'd rather have Trestman as the OC of my RB due to his usage of them in the passing game. I mean look at it this way. If Matt Forte had zero carries last season he'd have been RB12 in PPR, one spot ahead of McCoy.

 
I don't think Raven's fans see Trestman as an upgrade, rather just a very solid replacement. I think they will keep their zone blocking scheme as it fits their athletic linemen well and the oline coach (Castio) is still in place.

I doubt the Ravens change much of anything since what they did last year fits their personnel so well. What the Ravens need is a true number one WR to take them to the next level. And IF Campenero could stay healthy, he'd be the quick slot guy this type of offense needs.

 
menobrown said:
They lost a good offensive mind and hired another one.

Don't really see any noticeable difference for Flacco or the WR's and TE's.

RB is interesting, whoever that is. Not many OC's I'd trust more for RB production than Kubiak but speaking in terms of fantasy production not sure I'd rather have Trestman as the OC of my RB due to his usage of them in the passing game. I mean look at it this way. If Matt Forte had zero carries last season he'd have been RB12 in PPR, one spot ahead of McCoy.
:goodposting:

and nice throw out stat on Forte.

 
I think this is huge boost for Dorsett in PPR. I will have to review the old Bears/Forte threads, but several posters detailed the big PPR numbers RBs had/have under Tretsman. Case in point was Garner in 2002 with 91/941 under Tretsman as OC

 

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