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Troy Williamson, WR, MINN (1 Viewer)

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I know there's a ton of questions surrounding the receiving corps in Minnesota, but does anyone think this guy might light it up this year? Antsports currently lists his ADP at 14.07 - any thoughts on whether that could represent decent value or a wasted pick? Input appreciated.

 
He's a former top ten pick at WR entering his second year in the league. His upside is topping 1,000 yards. It may not be likely, but his ceiling certainly isn't in the triple digits.

 
Not crazy about his situation as a deep threat playing with a 38-year-old Brad Johnson.

That said, he doesn't seem to be getting much publicity for a guy with his talent and draft status entering his second year. Certainly seems like a reasonable gamble at his current ADP.

 
He's a former top ten pick at WR entering his second year in the league. His upside is topping 1,000 yards. It may not be likely, but his ceiling certainly isn't in the triple digits.
I agree, but to me he looks like the next D. Stallworth. Has the talent, but I think it will take him a few years to realize it IMO.
 
He's a former top ten pick at WR entering his second year in the league. His upside is topping 1,000 yards. It may not be likely, but his ceiling certainly isn't in the triple digits.
I agree, but to me he looks like the next D. Stallworth. Has the talent, but I think it will take him a few years to realize it IMO.
I'm not sure their situations are similar. IIRC Stallworth was a hammy pull waiting to happen his first three years in the league. Not sure it was talent transition that held him back
 
He's a former top ten pick at WR entering his second year in the league. His upside is topping 1,000 yards. It may not be likely, but his ceiling certainly isn't in the triple digits.
I agree, but to me he looks like the next D. Stallworth. Has the talent, but I think it will take him a few years to realize it IMO.
I'm not sure their situations are similar. IIRC Stallworth was a hammy pull waiting to happen his first three years in the league. Not sure it was talent transition that held him back
True - I forgot about that hammy. I still think it will take Williamson a couple years though.
 
I'm not sure that you can label him Ashley Lelie. I know the guy has the speed but I think it will be used on crossing patterns more than the deep ball. This plays into Brad Johnson's game so I have a little more belief in Williamson than others do. I don't see big time numbers as far as TDs go but I could see 800-900 yards as something that wouldn't surprise me in the least and I think he could top out at over 1000. He is a hard worker and the passing game plays to his strength. He isn't Randy Moss, in that he doesn't adjust well to the deep ball. His strength is catching the ball in space and using his speed to make plays.

 
I'm not sure that you can label him Ashley Lelie. I know the guy has the speed but I think it will be used on crossing patterns more than the deep ball. This plays into Brad Johnson's game so I have a little more belief in Williamson than others do. I don't see big time numbers as far as TDs go but I could see 800-900 yards as something that wouldn't surprise me in the least and I think he could top out at over 1000. He is a hard worker and the passing game plays to his strength. He isn't Randy Moss, in that he doesn't adjust well to the deep ball. His strength is catching the ball in space and using his speed to make plays.
I like Williamson and will definitely ponder him on draft day, but the philosophy change in MIN scares me as well. I beleive the offense will revolve around C Taylor with the lions share of receptions going to one receiver - K Robinson. Kinda like what Tampa is running these days. Also, the fact that Marcus Robinson and T Tayor will be getting balls doesn't bode well for Willimson either. Too many questions marks in my mind. But like they say, everyone has value and if he's around late I may just take that flyer.
 
I'm not sure that you can label him Ashley Lelie. I know the guy has the speed but I think it will be used on crossing patterns more than the deep ball. This plays into Brad Johnson's game so I have a little more belief in Williamson than others do. I don't see big time numbers as far as TDs go but I could see 800-900 yards as something that wouldn't surprise me in the least and I think he could top out at over 1000. He is a hard worker and the passing game plays to his strength. He isn't Randy Moss, in that he doesn't adjust well to the deep ball. His strength is catching the ball in space and using his speed to make plays.
I like Williamson and will definitely ponder him on draft day, but the philosophy change in MIN scares me as well. I beleive the offense will revolve around C Taylor with the lions share of receptions going to one receiver - K Robinson. Kinda like what Tampa is running these days. Also, the fact that Marcus Robinson and T Tayor will be getting balls doesn't bode well for Willimson either. Too many questions marks in my mind. But like they say, everyone has value and if he's around late I may just take that flyer.
That's exactly my take on it - decent upside for where his ADP currently is, but a lot of factors that could keep him from playing to his full potential. Depending on your bench size, he might be worth the risk.
 
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I, for one, am very glad I didn't cut him in the Dynasty league I have him in.

:pickle:

 
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We drafted on Saturday and, you guessed it, I picked KRob. :bag:

Just dropped him and added Williamson.

 
I thought he was going to outperform his ADP prior to the KRob news.

I expect he'll be taken too high now.

 
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I, for one, am very glad I didn't cut him in the Dynasty league I have him in. :pickle:
I traded for him for peanuts in a number of leagues the last few months. I didn't expect to see any positive developments on him for another year or so, so I am happy. Former top 10 pick with the only guy in front of him one mistake away from a year long suspension, seemed like a good risk.I bet his former owners are kicking themselves now.
 
I thought he was going to outperform his ADP prior to the KRob news.I expect he'll be taken too high now.
:goodposting: I liked Williamson as a cheap WR5 with considerable upside. I think the asking price will probably go up a bit too much now.
In the midst of a 40 round draft (offense as well as IDP). Got Troy at 18.02. Koren went at 7.07.I thought that was about right for Troy, and a bit high for Koren.Funny, I have another draft this Sunday, with a few guys who know I have Troy. My intention is to talk him up all day, and let some fool jump on him in the 6th round.
 
He still looks awfully green to me.
He recently was getting special help with working on his hand - eye coordination. Apparently he was turning the wrong direction quite often when adjusting to the ball in flight.Yup......his hand - eye coordination. He needs to keep from being a bust before he can worry about going for 1,000.
 
I'm starting to like Troy Williamson's chances to be the Surprise Of The Draft this year. He'll probably be the long range stud for the team with Travis Taylor and Marcus Robinson being more of the possession receivers. Brad Johnson is very accurate and the Vikings should have a very balanced offense with a decent running game behind a very good offensive line and stud blocking back in Tony Richardson.

Troy was the #7 pick in the 2005 draft, 4.38 in the 40, and survived the train wreck of the team last year.

NFL Draft 2005 Info. He has no physical or mental issues to overcome (from what I know)

I'll stretch out on the limb and say I think he'll finish with 1000 yards, 7 TDs and end up around a top 15-20 back this year in the company of Reggie Wayne, Donald Driver and Roy Williams.

 
Depends on his hands and route running in that offense. Vikes passing game with Childress and Brad will probably employ a short passing game based on timing and run after the catch. Hes fast, we know that, but that type of passing game has alot of do with being in the exact spot he needs to be and having great hands.

Potential is there, I think he will get plenty of opportunites, but I havent seen enough of him to know if those two key factors are up to snuff yet

 
I think it is safe to say that taking a flyer on ths guy in the 13-15 round is all upside and no downside. He could be the pick that you need to package together something for a stud. ALL VALUE here.

 
Troy Williamson will be a breakout Wr in 2006.

I believe he will catch and average of 4 passes a game. He has very good speed a RAC ability. He will probobly still make some mistakes and drop some catchable balls but I do not think Brad Johnson or the coaching staf will give up on him. He is the clear WR1 for the Vikings now with KRob gone.

Projecting 55-75 catches 740-1100 yards 5-9 TD and a few more yards rushing off of occasional end around plays.

Im' not sure if he throws the ball well or not.

Brad Johnson has been playing very effiently in this offense. As long as he is healthy I see him putting passes with good placement so Williamson can get good YAC yards. Even so I was conservative with my YPC estimates at 13.5 compared to 15.5 that he had last year.

Jackson has looked good as well backing up BJ so I am not so concerned about him bringing the offense down if BJ misses time with injury. Depends on how much time Johnson would miss. I think Jackson would be fine starting for a few games but might struggle more if he had to play for a longer streach of them.

 
Not crazy about his situation as a deep threat playing with a 38-year-old Brad Johnson.That said, he doesn't seem to be getting much publicity for a guy with his talent and draft status entering his second year. Certainly seems like a reasonable gamble at his current ADP.
:goodposting: The 14th round is sleeper/flyer territory anyway. And I'd rather spend that flyer on a WR1 on a bad team than a WR3 on a good team.
 
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Not crazy about his situation as a deep threat playing with a 38-year-old Brad Johnson.That said, he doesn't seem to be getting much publicity for a guy with his talent and draft status entering his second year. Certainly seems like a reasonable gamble at his current ADP.
:goodposting: The 14th round is sleeper/flyer territory anyway. And I'd rather spend that flyer on a WR1 on a bad team than a WR3 on a good team.
FWIW, the 14th round ADP I posted earlier in this thread was before K-Rob ruined his career (again). Williamson has probably shot up everyone's draft board since then.
 
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Not crazy about his situation as a deep threat playing with a 38-year-old Brad Johnson.That said, he doesn't seem to be getting much publicity for a guy with his talent and draft status entering his second year. Certainly seems like a reasonable gamble at his current ADP.
:goodposting: The 14th round is sleeper/flyer territory anyway. And I'd rather spend that flyer on a WR1 on a bad team than a WR3 on a good team.
WR3?:shuked:
 
I see him going for about 55-690-5 TD's. With TT, Wiggens, Robinson, and Chester Taylor grabbing rec's theirs not going to a lot left over for Troy. Plus if he has to take the number 1 D-back on him, not great for a 2nd year WR.

 
His physical tools and body type remind me of Javon Walker. During Walker's rookie year, he looked great running across the field and in uniform, but had a hard time bringing ing the ball. Based on that raw talent, I tried to acquire Javon in many of my Dynasty leagues and it paid off. I think Williamson has the tools to be an elite WR in the NFL, but he will likely break-out during his 3rd year. This year Williamson will continue to develop as a WR and the Vikings will get used to their new offense. During 2007, I see the Vikings making a routine effort to get the ball into Williamson's hands because he will be their playmaker on offense.

2006: 55-787-6

2007: 80-1176-8

 

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