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Plenty of noteworthy stories from the draft

By Adam Schefter - NFL Analyst (May 2, 2007)

* Very quietly, the Vikings drafted three wide receivers -- South Carolina's Sidney Rice in Round 2, East Carolina's Aundrae Allison in Round 5 and Florida International's Chandler Williams in Round 7. There's a little message there and it's that former seventh-overall pick, wide receiver Troy Williamson, might not make it out of training camp with Minnesota. Williamson, of course, was the player acquired in the trade for wide receiver Randy Moss.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10162719

Look out. Some rookie WR's in Minn could have some nice value this year.

 
Yeah, there is a message there. It's that our WRs suck and to make up for it we have absolutely no depth there either. Look at this depth chart prior to the draft:

Troy Williamson

Bobby Wade

Billy McMullen

Cortez Hankton

Jason Carter

Todd Lowber

If this doesn't make you :shrug: than nothing will.

 
It's actually four that they drafted.

From what I've heard/read Tyler Thigpen, QB from Coastal Carolina is being tried at WR.

Having said that, the idea that Williamson would be cut loose before someone like Hankton or Lowber is ludicrous to me.

From the little opportunity he's had, I've liked Jason Carter.

 
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It's actually four that they drafted. From what I've heard/read Tyler Thigpen, QB from Coastal Carolina is being tried at WR.Having said that, the idea that Williamson would be cut loose before someone like Hankton or Lowber is ludicrous to me.From the little opportunity he's had, I've liked Jason Carter.
There have been a few rumors circulating that the Vikings are planning to move seventh-round pick Tyler Thigpen from quarterback to receiver. But Thigpen’s agent, Joel Turner, said he would be “stunned” if that happens. Thigpen is a mobile quarterback and can take off out of the pocket, but he runs a 4.7 in the 40-yard dash so it’s safe to assume he will be staying put as a QB.
Strib blog :goodposting: .
 
It's actually four that they drafted. From what I've heard/read Tyler Thigpen, QB from Coastal Carolina is being tried at WR.Having said that, the idea that Williamson would be cut loose before someone like Hankton or Lowber is ludicrous to me.From the little opportunity he's had, I've liked Jason Carter.
There have been a few rumors circulating that the Vikings are planning to move seventh-round pick Tyler Thigpen from quarterback to receiver. But Thigpen’s agent, Joel Turner, said he would be “stunned” if that happens. Thigpen is a mobile quarterback and can take off out of the pocket, but he runs a 4.7 in the 40-yard dash so it’s safe to assume he will be staying put as a QB.
Strib blog :confused: .
Huh. Guess I heard wrong. Maybe he can beat out Bollenger and the Vikes can roll with the heady duo of Tarvaris and Thigpen. It'll surely prove how smart Childress is then.
 
Unless he's a major headcase/locker room problem (which I haven't heard) it makes no sense at all to cut a guy one season after drafting him #7 overall. The probable cap hit alone would probably make cutting him after 1 year unpalatable.

 
Unless he's a major headcase/locker room problem (which I haven't heard) it makes no sense at all to cut a guy one season after drafting him #7 overall. The probable cap hit alone would probably make cutting him after 1 year unpalatable.
Yeah, that sounds less like inside info, and more like a shot in the dark from Schefter.
 
Unless he's a major headcase/locker room problem (which I haven't heard) it makes no sense at all to cut a guy one season after drafting him #7 overall. The probable cap hit alone would probably make cutting him after 1 year unpalatable.
Looks like nothing more than speculation by a reporter on a slow day. Williamson should still be the best WR on that team.
 
Look out. Some rookie WR's in Minn could have some nice value this year.
If you were th Vikes and had that WR corps, Jackson at QB, and Peterson and Taylor at RB, wouldn't you be inclined to run the ball. A lot.
Yes, If I were an NFL Head coach I would be inclined to try and run the ball no matter who I had on my team. But this situation looks similar to me of the Cards the year when Boldin and Johnson were drafted. Somone has to emerge as a recieving threat, right?
 
Sidney Rice

Troy Williamson

Bobby Wade

Billy McMullen

Aundrae Allison

Chandler Williams

-----

Cortez Hankton

Jason Carter

Todd Lowber

----

So assuming that none of the rookies get cut and the Vikes keep 6 WRs - we are back to Andy's equation, cutting Troy Williamson means keeping one of Hankton, Carter and Lowber.

If they sign Meshawn then the equation changes.

Even with Meshawn on board, I've seen nothing from Bobby Wade that would persuade me that he is more than a WR3. For Williamson to be cut McMullen AND Wade AND one of Aundrae Allison and Chandler Williams must climb past him on the depth chart...

 
Unless he's a major headcase/locker room problem (which I haven't heard) it makes no sense at all to cut a guy one season after drafting him #7 overall. The probable cap hit alone would probably make cutting him after 1 year unpalatable.
It's been two years so far, and he hasn't shown any signs of improvement. i can't see him getting cut now, but if he remains status quo this season, I don't see any reason to keep him around next year.
 
Sidney Rice Troy WilliamsonBobby WadeBilly McMullenAundrae Allison Chandler Williams -----Cortez HanktonJason CarterTodd Lowber----So assuming that none of the rookies get cut and the Vikes keep 6 WRs - we are back to Andy's equation, cutting Troy Williamson means keeping one of Hankton, Carter and Lowber.If they sign Meshawn then the equation changes.Even with Meshawn on board, I've seen nothing from Bobby Wade that would persuade me that he is more than a WR3. For Williamson to be cut McMullen AND Wade AND one of Aundrae Allison and Chandler Williams must climb past him on the depth chart...
Wow. That's the depth chart? They should definitely talk to Keyshawn. Rice, Williamson and Allison are all interesting, but where's the security blanket?And it's apparent from that list that Williamson isn't getting cut.
 
Unless he's a major headcase/locker room problem (which I haven't heard) it makes no sense at all to cut a guy one season after drafting him #7 overall. The probable cap hit alone would probably make cutting him after 1 year unpalatable.
It's been two years so far, and he hasn't shown any signs of improvement. i can't see him getting cut now, but if he remains status quo this season, I don't see any reason to keep him around next year.
This I agree with!
 
From what I read, the rumor about Thigpen moving to WR started because the team's website had him listed (incorrectly, as in typo) as a WR. He will be their developmental QB (although given their QB situation, you never know how close that is to the starting QB...)

They only had 3 WRs on their roster, of course they are going to draft a bunch...just bad reporting and trying to make news about Williamson, IMO.

 
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Being a gamecock fan and having watched Williamsons career in college, he has never appeared to be a #1 wr type. He never showed great hands in college and he never seemed to be able to catch the long passes. His strength was in being able to make the short catch and turn it into something big. I think this guy could still have value to this team just not as a #1 WR. Maybe a wr2 but would make an awesome slot receiver. Problem is they are paying him big bucks as he was what the #7 IIRC overall pick.

 
Look out. Some rookie WR's in Minn could have some nice value this year.
If you were th Vikes and had that WR corps, Jackson at QB, and Peterson and Taylor at RB, wouldn't you be inclined to run the ball. A lot.
Yes, If I were an NFL Head coach I would be inclined to try and run the ball no matter who I had on my team. But this situation looks similar to me of the Cards the year when Boldin and Johnson were drafted. Somone has to emerge as a recieving threat, right?
The Cardinals had no defense and no running game to go along with Kurt Warner at QB and three very talented WRs. The Vikings have a very green QB, who knows what at WR, an average or better defense, a talented blocking line, and two capable RBs. Could someone emerge? I guess so, but I don't see them throwing the ball 670 times like Arizona did.
 
Wow. That's the depth chart? They should definitely talk to Keyshawn. Rice, Williamson and Allison are all interesting, but where's the security blanket?
Shiancoe? :thumbup: AP?

Not sure whattheir cap status is though, and I'd think with Tarvaris as QB Keyshawn might not see them even as much a contender as the Titans

 
Everyone (NFL people) knew that he was raw in many ways. It was understood that Williamson would take bit longer, so why the shock is beyond me. If they cut him, then they are dumber than one could think...with that WR corps? Everyone is acting like the newly drafted WR's will come in right away and do wonders, last I checked almost ALL rookie WR's make NO IMPACT.

Adam Schefter making something out of nothing...IMO.

 
Being a gamecock fan and having watched Williamsons career in college, he has never appeared to be a #1 wr type. He never showed great hands in college and he never seemed to be able to catch the long passes. His strength was in being able to make the short catch and turn it into something big. I think this guy could still have value to this team just not as a #1 WR. Maybe a wr2 but would make an awesome slot receiver. Problem is they are paying him big bucks as he was what the #7 IIRC overall pick.
Now that's what I'm thinking. A lot of this hinges on how quickly Rice can develop. But since he has #1 potential, a corps of #1 - Rice, #2 - ???, and #3/slot - Williamson actually doesn't seem terrible. Terribly YOUNG, but full of potential anyway.On a different note - how could this team not find room to keep Hank Baskett around for a look-see?

 
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Everyone (NFL people) knew that he was raw in many ways. It was understood that Williamson would take bit longer, so why the shock is beyond me. If they cut him, then they are dumber than one could think...with that WR corps? Everyone is acting like the newly drafted WR's will come in right away and do wonders, last I checked almost ALL rookie WR's make NO IMPACT.Adam Schefter making something out of nothing...IMO.
Shouldn't he make some sort of progress from year 1 to year 2 though? I know he is raw, I know we were told he would take time, but if nothing this year then you give him a 4th year because he came in 'raw', 5th year? When do you stop?
 
Sidney Rice Troy WilliamsonBobby WadeBilly McMullenAundrae Allison Chandler Williams -----Cortez HanktonJason CarterTodd Lowber----So assuming that none of the rookies get cut and the Vikes keep 6 WRs - we are back to Andy's equation, cutting Troy Williamson means keeping one of Hankton, Carter and Lowber.If they sign Meshawn then the equation changes.Even with Meshawn on board, I've seen nothing from Bobby Wade that would persuade me that he is more than a WR3. For Williamson to be cut McMullen AND Wade AND one of Aundrae Allison and Chandler Williams must climb past him on the depth chart...
Could someone confirm this for me? Someone told me that Childress was on KFAN radio yesterday and basically said that he didn't think Keyshawn had anything left in the tank. Is this true? :(
 
Sidney Rice Troy WilliamsonBobby WadeBilly McMullenAundrae Allison Chandler Williams -----Cortez HanktonJason CarterTodd Lowber----So assuming that none of the rookies get cut and the Vikes keep 6 WRs - we are back to Andy's equation, cutting Troy Williamson means keeping one of Hankton, Carter and Lowber.If they sign Meshawn then the equation changes.Even with Meshawn on board, I've seen nothing from Bobby Wade that would persuade me that he is more than a WR3. For Williamson to be cut McMullen AND Wade AND one of Aundrae Allison and Chandler Williams must climb past him on the depth chart...
Could someone confirm this for me? Someone told me that Childress was on KFAN radio yesterday and basically said that he didn't think Keyshawn had anything left in the tank. Is this true? :(
His interview in on the KFAN podcast page under the morning show. I didn't listen to the whole thing myself.
 
Sidney Rice Troy WilliamsonBobby WadeBilly McMullenAundrae Allison Chandler Williams -----Cortez HanktonJason CarterTodd Lowber----So assuming that none of the rookies get cut and the Vikes keep 6 WRs - we are back to Andy's equation, cutting Troy Williamson means keeping one of Hankton, Carter and Lowber.If they sign Meshawn then the equation changes.Even with Meshawn on board, I've seen nothing from Bobby Wade that would persuade me that he is more than a WR3. For Williamson to be cut McMullen AND Wade AND one of Aundrae Allison and Chandler Williams must climb past him on the depth chart...
Could someone confirm this for me? Someone told me that Childress was on KFAN radio yesterday and basically said that he didn't think Keyshawn had anything left in the tank. Is this true? :(
Vikings not too interested in WR Keyshawn JohnsonWritten by: Kevin Seifert ¦ 5/3/2007Source: www.startribune.comCoach Brad Childress said in an interview on KFAN that he was "shocked" to hear that Carolina had released receiver Keyshawn Johnson. Asked if he was interested in signing Johnson, or if he knew whether Johnson could still be a productive player, Childress said: "I don't know if he's got anything left."
 
Sidney Rice Troy WilliamsonBobby WadeBilly McMullenAundrae Allison Chandler Williams -----Cortez HanktonJason CarterTodd Lowber----So assuming that none of the rookies get cut and the Vikes keep 6 WRs - we are back to Andy's equation, cutting Troy Williamson means keeping one of Hankton, Carter and Lowber.If they sign Meshawn then the equation changes.Even with Meshawn on board, I've seen nothing from Bobby Wade that would persuade me that he is more than a WR3. For Williamson to be cut McMullen AND Wade AND one of Aundrae Allison and Chandler Williams must climb past him on the depth chart...
Could someone confirm this for me? Someone told me that Childress was on KFAN radio yesterday and basically said that he didn't think Keyshawn had anything left in the tank. Is this true? :thumbup:
Vikings not too interested in WR Keyshawn JohnsonWritten by: Kevin Seifert ¦ 5/3/2007Source: www.startribune.comCoach Brad Childress said in an interview on KFAN that he was "shocked" to hear that Carolina had released receiver Keyshawn Johnson. Asked if he was interested in signing Johnson, or if he knew whether Johnson could still be a productive player, Childress said: "I don't know if he's got anything left."
Thanks! I knew I heard it somewhere...I must have read it this morning. I think I will like the talent of the Vikes WR pool in about 3 years. Right now, it is downright scary!
 
Don't overlook Chandler Williams:- combine invite- great athleticismI scouted him at the Texas vs. the Nation and had this to say:

Chandler Williams (Florida International) still pops out as a terrific athlete and did a lot better job finishing plays today.
Chandler Williams (Florida International) was probably the second most impressive WR athletically.
(behind Maurice Price who signed with the Chiefs in case you were wondering)Williams showed the speed and quicks all week to get open with ease, he just didn't always finish the play, but as I said, it got better as the week went along. His combine invite indicates the scouts saw NFL potential in him, and his numbers confirmed that.
 
Vikings not too interested in WR Keyshawn JohnsonWritten by: Kevin Seifert ¦ 5/3/2007Source: www.startribune.comCoach Brad Childress said in an interview on KFAN that he was "shocked" to hear that Carolina had released receiver Keyshawn Johnson. Asked if he was interested in signing Johnson, or if he knew whether Johnson could still be a productive player, Childress said: "I don't know if he's got anything left."
Keyshawn had 70 receptions last season. By my count, the Vikings only have 4 WRs on their roster that have ever caught an NFL pass. Those players and their career highs in receptions: Wade 42, Williamson 37, McMullen 23, and Hankton 17.
 
Transcript (RE: Keyshawn) about 31:50 in the Podcast:

Morris: Keyshawn Johnson would you care to comment on a player like that would that be of any interest at all, a veteran guy like that do you think he has anything left?Chili: You know, I don't know if he's got anything left, but I enjoyed his commentary on ESPN he certainly is an opinionated guy which I know they get paid to give their opinions on ESPN on draft day. It's kind of funny how I found out about it is I was talking to Ziggy and he said I am in the Holland Tunnel and I said Zig I gotta tell you this is unbelievable your unbelievably clear for driving through the Holland Tunnel talking to me on a cell phone. He goes nah they put these sensors in here 4 or 5 years ago, and it sounds like he is sitting right next door and he goes did you hear about Keyshawn? I said no what, hadn't seen the internet, hadn't seen the waiver wire yet. But I was shocked because there he sat talking about Dwayne Jarrett and then um he's on the street today. The NFL Not For Long.Morris: That's so true. blah blah on to another subject.
Pretty funny how you can cut and paste certain parts and get a totally different meaning.
 
Transcript (RE: Keyshawn) about 31:50 in the Podcast:

Morris: Keyshawn Johnson would you care to comment on a player like that would that be of any interest at all, a veteran guy like that do you think he has anything left?Chili: You know, I don't know if he's got anything left, but I enjoyed his commentary on ESPN he certainly is an opinionated guy which I know they get paid to give their opinions on ESPN on draft day. It's kind of funny how I found out about it is I was talking to Ziggy and he said I am in the Holland Tunnel and I said Zig I gotta tell you this is unbelievable your unbelievably clear for driving through the Holland Tunnel talking to me on a cell phone. He goes nah they put these sensors in here 4 or 5 years ago, and it sounds like he is sitting right next door and he goes did you hear about Keyshawn? I said no what, hadn't seen the internet, hadn't seen the waiver wire yet. But I was shocked because there he sat talking about Dwayne Jarrett and then um he's on the street today. The NFL Not For Long.Morris: That's so true. blah blah on to another subject.
Pretty funny how you can cut and paste certain parts and get a totally different meaning.
Even funnier is imagining a conversation between these two where they refer to each other as "Zig" and "Chili". :thumbup:
 
What is the status on Williamson getting lasic? Isn't his sight what the Vikings and Williamson were blaming his inconsistancy on? Maybe we'll learn a lot more about this situation once they get their minicamp out of the way.

I just received him as a throw in in a trade, so I'm hoping he can become at least a good bye week filler. We'll see though.

 
What is the status on Williamson getting lasic? Isn't his sight what the Vikings and Williamson were blaming his inconsistancy on? Maybe we'll learn a lot more about this situation once they get their minicamp out of the way.I just received him as a throw in in a trade, so I'm hoping he can become at least a good bye week filler. We'll see though.
i thought he had that done last offseason?
 
Look out. Some rookie WR's in Minn could have some nice value this year.
If you were th Vikes and had that WR corps, Jackson at QB, and Peterson and Taylor at RB, wouldn't you be inclined to run the ball. A lot.
Yes, If I were an NFL Head coach I would be inclined to try and run the ball no matter who I had on my team. But this situation looks similar to me of the Cards the year when Boldin and Johnson were drafted. Somone has to emerge as a recieving threat, right?
The Cardinals had no defense and no running game to go along with Kurt Warner at QB and three very talented WRs. The Vikings have a very green QB, who knows what at WR, an average or better defense, a talented blocking line, and two capable RBs. Could someone emerge? I guess so, but I don't see them throwing the ball 670 times like Arizona did.
 
Look out. Some rookie WR's in Minn could have some nice value this year.
If you were th Vikes and had that WR corps, Jackson at QB, and Peterson and Taylor at RB, wouldn't you be inclined to run the ball. A lot.
Yes, If I were an NFL Head coach I would be inclined to try and run the ball no matter who I had on my team. But this situation looks similar to me of the Cards the year when Boldin and Johnson were drafted. Somone has to emerge as a recieving threat, right?
The Cardinals had no defense and no running game to go along with Kurt Warner at QB and three very talented WRs. The Vikings have a very green QB, who knows what at WR, an average or better defense, a talented blocking line, and two capable RBs. Could someone emerge? I guess so, but I don't see them throwing the ball 670 times like Arizona did.
Similar situation . . .The Cardinals had no defense and verly little running game to go along with Jeff Blake at QB and a great draft pick in Boldin. The team ranked last in offense and last in defense in terms of points scored/allowed. The WR corps featured Boldin and 6 other guys that pretty much did close to nothing.

The Vikings have a very green QB, who knows what at WR, an average or better defense, a talented blocking line, and two capable RBs. Could someone emerge? I guess so, but I don't see the composition of the teams seems a lot different IMO.

 
Everyone (NFL people) knew that he was raw in many ways. It was understood that Williamson would take bit longer, so why the shock is beyond me. If they cut him, then they are dumber than one could think...with that WR corps? Everyone is acting like the newly drafted WR's will come in right away and do wonders, last I checked almost ALL rookie WR's make NO IMPACT.Adam Schefter making something out of nothing...IMO.
Shouldn't he make some sort of progress from year 1 to year 2 though? I know he is raw, I know we were told he would take time, but if nothing this year then you give him a 4th year because he came in 'raw', 5th year? When do you stop?
I'd say that is a good point. I don't know where that golden point is, but I'm sure internally they are looking for certain things to happen to know they are on path to where they projected him to be at this point. His first year was a loss and he never really hit the field much. As for last year, we all know his problems that he had, but I'd point out that he did do a great job of getting open. The opportunity will be there and if correcting the eyesight thing or more work occurs some things should start happening.WR's take a bit to start helping out and produce on regular basis, the pros knew it was going to take a bit more for him. Most thought he was worth the wait and I just wanted to point it out for all those that are calling for his head already. Many forget so easily...
 
What is the status on Williamson getting lasic? Isn't his sight what the Vikings and Williamson were blaming his inconsistancy on? Maybe we'll learn a lot more about this situation once they get their minicamp out of the way.I just received him as a throw in in a trade, so I'm hoping he can become at least a good bye week filler. We'll see though.
i thought he had that done last offseason?
From my understanding, it was this off season and they sent him to that special place to extra help.
 
He never had lasik. He went this offseason and worked on hand-eye coordination. I see the guy as an awesome buy low guy because I think he is going to be good (not stud good, but good). If (and I know it is a big if) he has the catching thing worked out, then he will be good because in watching him play last year no one could cover the guy (as it turned out they really didn't need to), but he knows how to get open and does, he just needs to catch. I like him to have a big season.

 
He never had lasik. He went this offseason and worked on hand-eye coordination. I see the guy as an awesome buy low guy because I think he is going to be good (not stud good, but good). If (and I know it is a big if) he has the catching thing worked out, then he will be good because in watching him play last year no one could cover the guy (as it turned out they really didn't need to), but he knows how to get open and does, he just needs to catch. I like him to have a big season.
I am pretty sure you are right about the lasik. The article doesn't seem to be available on the Star Trib website anymore, but I am 99% sure that it was eye-focusing exercises and hand eye coordination drills. For what it is worth, the Vikings never wanted that story to come out. It was brought to the media by Williamson's agent. Chilli has said that he wishes that it would have just stayed in-house.
 
On a different note - how could this team not find room to keep Hank Baskett around for a look-see?
Baskett was an undrafted RFA the Vikings never saw more of then in a post draft mini-camp. McMullen was already a known quantity that Childress was familiar with. Since the Vikes were in real need of help, it made sense for the Vikes to trade an unknown for a known. McMullen is nothing more then a quality depth piece..he simply doesn't have the skills of a starter, but he does have decent hands and a good head on his shoulders...IE:He's a solid DEPTH reciever, a #3 or #4. With Minnesota desperately needing help they could count on, McMullen became that Mr. reliable.The move made sense for Philly as well because Philly had Greg Lewis and Jason Avant, relegating McMullen to no better then #4 on the Eagles depth chart BEFORE they aquired Stallworth. Philly could afford the risk of an undrafted RFA...Minnesota couldn't. Since Childress had a great relationship with the Eagles FO (after all...he had just come from the Birds!), it was an easy move to make between friends.IN hindsight, it's obvious Philly got the better end of the deal, but it still made great sense to the Vikes at the time. IN terms of last year, I don't think, either made a huge impact, but it's obvious that Baskett's ceiling is as a starter, while McMullen's is as a #3.FWIW: I see no way Minnesotta cuts Williamson. The guy is uncoverable, and is one of my prime sleeper targets for dynasty. If there's any truth to the rumors about his eyes, and them getting fixed, then this guy could be a monster THIS YEAR. If the rumors are false, he still has a VERY HIGH CEILING. He should be on every Shark's sleeper list.
 

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