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and Roy Moores voters wont care eitherI can’t believe I missed this thread.
“Swept under the rug.”
There were about a hundred conversations about it on this board alone. It was a major discussion point during the campaign. No, it wasn’t swept under the rug. His voters didn’t care.
Are you arguing that rich and famous people don't commit rape since they can get sex easily from good looking women?
Remember, Trump's lawyer was the one who said you "cannot rape your wife" after Trump's ex-wife (can't remember which one, he's had several) accused him of violently raping her in her book.
Actually, pretty much everyone outside of blind Trump supporters knows that they are very likely to be true. It’s also pretty prescient of many of these women to start their “politically motivated hatchet jobs” decades before Trump ever ran for office, including multiple allegations of actual rape. Plus, you know, there’s the fact that Trump himself bragged about committing sexual assault on tape, as well as documenting his perverted behavior in multiple Stern interviews.
at Trump being a real life Bruce Wayne.I think you have you answer. This was never swept under the rug; it is just completely ignore/denied by Trump's supporters. An interesting amount of cognitive dissonance when they talk about every other sexual assault claim constantly...
No you don't.Not me. Personally, I treat all the ladies respectfully
You realize there were women who came out before Trump was running for office, right?
And when has Trump not pushed the envelope. As a billionaire real estate developer, and now as POTUS, there is a seemingly endless supply of sycophants willing to kiss his ###. Yet he still throws a hissy fit on Twitter whenever someone doesn't kiss his ###. That's completely consistent with the type of person who 1) has lots of consensual sex with beautiful women; and 2) subjects other women to sexual harassment. That probably describes all the offenders in Hollywood.
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LOL at Donald Trump Jr. apparently thinking that Al Franken is the guy who did the "Coffee Talk" sketches on SNL. ("Talk amongst yourselves...")
ismbradyfan said:
His base (and the rest of GOP) will just
say "Fake News!", endorse Roy Moore some more and whine when people start calling them out for the hypocrisy
Absolutely.His base (and the rest of GOP) will just
Haley has taken advantage of the somewhat independent nature of her post to position herself for the inevitable Presidential run in 2024.
Trump was elected with these accusations readily available and known. He’s not going to step down, nor should he.
This is exactly why Franken was thrown under the bus (after all, he didn't admit any wrongdoing and is a "champion for women") and forced to resign by Dem leadership. Interesting move by the DNC here.
I doubt any of that happens but I'm glad this is getting traction and I hope they keep pressing the issue. It all went away quietly and it's clear there is something there.
The bolded seems to imply that you that you’re OK with Trump’s mistreatment of women, or at the very least you don’t regard it as disqualifying. Would that be an accurate assessment?
The White House made this argument this morning; so did jonesed. I don’t see how it exonerates Trump in any way. In fact, I actually find the idea that public opinion lets somebody off the hook for wrongdoing to be disgusting and anti-American as well.
Marion Barry got reelected Mayor of the District of Columbia, too, after going to prison. Don't recall his critics in this forum ever excusing what he did just because the people of DC had no problem with it.
I think he's saying that the people who voted for him didn't* and thus he doesn't see why he should resign.
It’s so obvious. But most people do what they are told to do and the media tells people that the big story is Russia, so the big story is Russia.
I think the Russian story is easily the bigger issue as I think they attempted (successfully) to interfere with our election and are trying their best to weaken the US (in anyway they can - whether that's supporting Trump or Rubio or Hillary or anyone else they think helps them). The story about Trump and womanizing is just that - would it get him out of office? Maybe, but that's not the end all be all for me, especially when Pence is the one that would take the reigns. My biggest immediate concern is Trump starting a war with someone. I never wanted Trump anywhere near the WH and still don't but I can recognize the bigger threat to our democracy.
I’m not OK with, but I didn’t help elect him. I’m not about to disenfranchise those who did. Obviously they see things differently.
I accept the election and I’m not looking to disenfranchise anyone. But if he’s done what these women say, he needs to go along with Weinstein and Charlie Rose and Franken and Lauer and Spacey and all the rest. If you disagree then it seems to me that you’re OK with what he’s done, or that you don’t find it disqualifying. I don’t see much wiggle room here.
Yeah, that's why I didn't say it. The Russia investigation seems to be playing out like what we've seen in real life (and entertainment) with mob bosses. They will end up getting him on taxes or money laundering or not at all if they go down that road and it would be a long drawn out process that a lot of people will just ignore. The thing is - I don't know if the sexual misconduct is going to do anything either - I'd be willing to bet that you could put all the pressure in the world on Trump and he's not budging. It would take impeachment from these allegations and I don't really see that happening.
I think I have explained myself about as clearly as I can. I will reiterate one more time to help.
