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If that's what you need to tell yourself.
No. I want tax cheats in jail. Full stop.If that's what you need to tell yourself.
This will ALWAYS be about a witch-hunt to get Trump. Unfortunately, because your side made it that way, no one is EVER going to believe it's about justice.
Which posts have Trump tried and convicted? Thats just not what people have been saying at all.
Because it’s a witch hunt against one person. You could bring the same charges against most companies if you perform an investigation of their finances.
Why are you doing your usual laugh at this thread? Why would you bring up the Clinton Foundation? I'm confused about how that relates to this thread.sho nuff said:
And I'm trying to tell you that because The American Left started a witch hunt over 4 years ago to go after Trump that ANYTHING remotely related to him will now be seen like that. They did it to themselves.
So you are making a Boy Who Cried Wolf argument? I could see that working on the court of public opinion but maybe not with the State of NY.
Call it whatever you want. In any case, it just looks like another witch hunt.
So basically, Trump and anyone close to him can never be investigated for anything for all time because people will scream "witch hunt"?Call it whatever you want. In any case, it just looks like another witch hunt.
I'm not arguing with the State of NY. I'm in an online forum arguing with an anonymous poster.
Not saying that at all. I'm just saying that credibility goes out the window when you go witch-hunting.
So for the sake of argument let’s say we all agree for a moment this is a witch hunt. Ok, so if criminal activity is found I would think everyone would be all about punishment to the extent the law, as with all criminal activity. But no it’s being excused (other businesses do it too) or brushed aside (meh, no biggie). Wonder why? Red team blue team maybe?
Can I say that other businesses do it too and that's it seems relatively smaller (and truthfully I'm not sure the extent yet so maybe it is bigger)...and still agree that it is wrong and should be punished comparably to other companies found guilty of similar crimes?
And on the witch hunt angle, that’s all on Trump. He put himself on the radar by his own choosing. Had he stayed a private citizen he likely wouldn’t be in this position. So unless your ####s tight don’t open yourself up to scrutiny.
*and yes I’m all for this regardless of political affiliation. All these public officials should be held to the highest possible standards. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.
Do you have links confirming for example your desire to investigate and find all the facts and prosecute to the fullest say for example the Hunter Biden / Joe Biden / China / Burisma suspicions? I believe you, just a small test....
If the government wants to find a witch, they will. History is replete with numerous examples.
I have no problem with it, just like I have no issues if they find illegal activities by the Clintons, Hunter Biden, etc
Re bolded 1- sure, say whatever you want. But the party lines are clear via the comments.So for the sake of argument let’s say we all agree for a moment this is a witch hunt. Ok, so if criminal activity is found I would think everyone would be all about punishment to the extent the law, as with all criminal activity. But no it’s being excused (other businesses do it too) or brushed aside (meh, no biggie). Wonder why? Red team blue team maybe?
Can I say that other businesses do it too and that's it seems relatively smaller (and truthfully I'm not sure the extent yet so maybe it is bigger)...and still agree that it is wrong and should be punished comparably to other companies found guilty of similar crimes?
And on the witch hunt angle, that’s all on Trump. He put himself on the radar by his own choosing. Had he stayed a private citizen he likely wouldn’t be in this position. So unless your ####s tight don’t open yourself up to scrutiny.
*and yes I’m all for this regardless of political affiliation. All these public officials should be held to the highest possible standards. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.
Do you have links confirming for example your desire to investigate and find all the facts and prosecute to the fullest say for example the Hunter Biden / Joe Biden / China / Burisma suspicions? I believe you, just a small test....
Have you read the indictment? You could not bring these charges against 99% of companies in the US.
I agree that is how it will be perceived. Just look at many of the posts in this thread.
Except it wasn’t. There were legitimate laws broken leading to an investigation and indictment of the Trump Org CEO and charges against the organization itself.
In the campaign, the administration, the foundation, the business…odd how its all around everything he does…its as if he surrounds himself with unethical people.
You have a big orange witch. Then you have a bunch of flying monkeys that blindly follow the witch regardless of any impeachments, 1/6 riot incitements, impending indictments and the unending list of all the bad witches' shocking wrongdoings.
15 felony charges. If most companies can be charged with 15 felonies, maybe we should demand law enforcement gets tougher on the tax cheats.
Nah. It's a witch hunt going after one guy so it can't be prosecuted due to the witch hunt statutes that come down from common law in Olde England.
Those don’t count. It doesn’t matter if Trump surrounds himself with criminals in all aspects of his life. Pardons criminals like Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Flynn and so on. If you don’t tag him specifically, it’s all a witch hunt!
I'm sure you want a multi-year investigation into Hunter Biden and also the Clinton Foundation? Get real here, you want Trump in jail, you don't care about tax cheats.
If there is evidence of wrong doing, yes. I am not a partisan back and I'm deeply disturbed when people politicize things like this.
If they have probable cause I have no problem with a multi-year investigation into Hunter Biden and/or the Clinton Foundation. If they broke the law they need to be held accountable.
The Clinton Foundation has been investigated. Including a 2 year investigation by the Trump Justice Department.
I believe if you did a forensic investigation of the financials of almost all us companies you will find something illegal. What he is accused of doing may be unique but don’t see it any different.
I don’t agree. So of all the companies here they decide to focus on this company and indicate a private citizen? What are the odds?
Because there was probable cause to investigate and because that citizen was committing crimes. Private citizens are investigated and indicted all the time.
This. I am obligated to fill out paperwork and send 1099’s to any individual who has provided me services or I paid cash rent to (farm land) that exceeds $600. I do so every year and if I didn’t I would fully expect to be contacted by the IRS and be subjected to some kind of penalty. I don’t know why it seems Trumplicans give a pass to tax cheats like Weisselberg and Manafort. Seems Al Capone lived in the wrong century......if he had lived today he could maybe of run as a Republican. While I don’t want to get these tax cheats to pay their fair share by using the Justice department every time because that obviously wouldn’t be efficient, but making an example of some of these millionaires is fine with me. I suspect all of us here pay what taxes we owe and for the most part we wouldn’t act like it is good shrewd business to be a tax cheat.
We have no way of knowing what companies are innocent until they investigate so I’m missing your point..
No, it took them several years to get Trump's tax returns, seeing as he managed to stifle that request during his presidency. Once he was out of office, seems like it only took a few months.
No because Trump operates like a mob boss. He says things without really saying it. If you only read written directions from him on a myriad of situations it wouldn't seem like much. Communication is much more than words though. There's tone, facial expressions, understanding of who someone is and what they desire. It's as ridiculous as Vinny Boombatz testifying that when he told some guys to "take him for a ride", that's exactly what he meant.
