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TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (9 Viewers)

timschochet said:
Do you know what the greatest enthusiasm of all time was for a Presidential Candidate in terms of fanatical live support? It was for Barry Goldwater in 1964. #2 was for Eugene McCarthy  in 1968. #3 was for Howard Dean in 2004. And #4 was for Bernie Sanders in 2016. 

Fanatical live support doesn’t do much for candidates in the modern era. 
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Meh.  Trump’s 2016 electoral landslide says differently.  

 
sho nuff said:
Trump goes into a deep red area and holds a rally.  Yeah, Im shocked that POTUS receives big crowds there. 

And comparing money is also not apples to apples currently as dem money is split among so many candidates.
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I think Trump could go anywhere and have a big rally. There are pockets of Trump fans in every liberal city in the nation. 

 
knowledge dropper said:
Please keep your posts related to the re-election of President Trump.  
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Stop...i responded to a post.  I am allowed to do that and I will keep doing so.  You want to complain about consistency...take others (including yourself) to task for not doing so.  And spare me the claims that i always say that about keeping it on topic...quite clear the difference in responding to someone about what they are discussing and chiming in to make personal comments that aren't even related to someones post.

 
tonydead said:
I'm not ignoring anything.  If you have more data please post it.

And really, continued defense of someone who called a group of people maggots and liars isn't a good look.  Should be suspension worthy, imo.  
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Calling Trump supporters  maggots doesn’t seem to be excellent behavior, at least in my book. I could be wrong but I doubt it. 

 
sho nuff said:
Stop...i responded to a post.  I am allowed to do that and I will keep doing so.  You want to complain about consistency...take others (including yourself) to task for not doing so.  And spare me the claims that i always say that about keeping it on topic...quite clear the difference in responding to someone about what they are discussing and chiming in to make personal comments that aren't even related to someones post.
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Please keep the discussion about the posts and not the poster.  

 
tonydead said:
I'm not ignoring anything.  If you have more data please post it.

And really, continued defense of someone who called a group of people maggots and traitors isn't a good look.  Should be suspension worthy, imo.  
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Sure you are.  By only pointing out what “your side” got as far as suspensions you ignore what others have received.

 I have not once defended him for using those words.  Calling for a suspension for pointed out what happened is bogus.  If you have a beef with the mods, take it up with them.  

 
sho nuff said:
Stop...i responded to a post.  I am allowed to do that and I will keep doing so.  You want to complain about consistency...take others (including yourself) to task for not doing so.  And spare me the claims that i always say that about keeping it on topic...quite clear the difference in responding to someone about what they are discussing and chiming in to make personal comments that aren't even related to someones post.
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Please stop making a nuisance  of yourself . The only reason you keep quoting him is to get a negative reaction from him. Please stop. Take a breather quoting him for a couple of days

 
sho nuff said:
Sure you are.  By only pointing out what “your side” got as far as suspensions you ignore what others have received.

 I have not once defended him for using those words.  Calling for a suspension for pointed out what happened is bogus.  If you have a beef with the mods, take it up with them.  
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I am in fact waiting on a data point to come in on the other side.  Hopefully, and rightfully, it should take a while.  Link to the data I'm ignoring please.

 
HellToupee said:
Please stop making a nuisance  of yourself . The only reason you keep quoting him is to get a negative reaction from him. Please stop. Take a breather quoting him for a couple of days
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This is false.  I respond as his posts are not consistent with how he holds himself or other posters. He appears to clearly be the one trying to get a reaction.

Also, i may take that breather anyone but it has zero to do with him or you.  

 
tonydead said:
I am in fact waiting on a data point to come in on the other side.  Hopefully, and rightfully, it should take a while.  Link to the data I'm ignoring please.
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Perhaps the other side doesn't complain as much about it...nor os this thread the place to do so. 

 
knowledge dropper said:
Please keep the discussion about the posts and not the poster.  
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Great advice. No one has actually addressed my post yet. I'm anxiously awaiting someone attempting to justify Trump's growing federal and trade deficits. For all the crying about potential spending by the democrats (most of which I'm also opposed to), no one seems to bat an eye at Trump's spending or his horrific track record in business finance. He promised to fix the deficit and he's only made it worse. How is everyone ok with that? Unless you are old and/or in bad health, this (deficit) is going to impact all of us adversely at some point in our lives.

FF Ninja said:
After lurking for a bit, I've read the past 5-6 pages and this is the comment that needs to be highlighted.

As someone who is neither a conservative or a liberal (voted 3rd party last time), I feel like I'm a bit like Varys - I just want what's good for the realm. But it seems there's a common misperception among the pro-Trump crowd that anyone who is against Trump is a liberal (I'm not) and/or looking for handouts (the wife and I both make very good money and have no debt). One need only look at recent Congress voting patterns (scroll down a little in the comments) to see that there's basically the far right/sell outs and everybody else. The democratic party now consists of everyone from moderate conservatives to socialists. We desperately need more than two parties, but that's another story.

Personally, I'm adamantly against Bernie's free college for everyone and Warren's student debt forgiveness ideas. I think they've got some decent ideas for funding them that we should implement, but instead of using that funding towards those programs we should use it towards balancing the budget.

That being said, it's so painful to hear these two phrases:
"Hurr durr, the economy is so great under Trump."
"Hurr durr, the budget will be screwed if a dem gets elected."

News flash, you people currently have a man with six bankruptcies under his belt who was America's biggest financial loser over a decade in office. It should be no surprise that he's running up twin deficits (federal and trade). Obama (love him, hate him, or whatever - it's not important) had to spend money to get out of an inherited recession, however, Trump has increased the deficits over Obama's during a good ecomony as sho nuff touched on. This is insane. He claimed he was going to balance the budget when campaigning, but he's actually made it worse. The dude is straight up financially incompetent. The economy was swinging upwards when he took office, oil price luckily went up for him, and he's recklessly repealed every EPA regulation he can which obviously helps our related industries at the detriment of the environment. The current economy is not a feather in his cap. It's a combination of those listed factors. The spending almost certainly will NOT get worse if a democrat is elected because it is already atrocious. 

Side note: if you're still a climate change denier in 2019, you need to be fed to a starving polar bear. 

P.S. You guys really should look at those votes from the House and Senate - it's very illuminating. Net Neutrality is such a simple example - the majority of EVERYONE's constituents wanted to keep net neutrality, so it's quite telling about those representatives who voted against it.

Edit: fixed a term that was too insensitive for some
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knowledge dropper said:
I’ll give you that Data as soon as you give @tonydeadwhat he requested.  Deal.  
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No deal.  You made an assertion about something.  Back it up please.

I am not privy to what the mods have or haven't done with other posters.  Nor is it related to trump...so, just following your request bu not posting that.  HTH

 
tonydead said:
So I'm not ignoring any data then, good.  Ramblin Wreck is right when he said you never provide back up or links for your claims. 
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Sure you are.  You are acting as of it doesn't exist since people don't complain about it all over the place.

Also...when asked to back uo something ive claimed, i do back it up when available (in this case, moderation data is not available to me).  I don't answer if a request is made by someone i have told for years i won't respond to him.

 
sho nuff said:
Sure you are.  You are acting as of it doesn't exist since people don't complain about it all over the place.

Also...when asked to back uo something ive claimed, i do back it up when available (in this case, moderation data is not available to me).  I don't answer if a request is made by someone i have told for years i won't respond to him.
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I am not acting like it doesn't exist, in fact, I'm asking your for it since you claim that I'm ignoring it.  The same reason you are unable to link to it makes it impossible for me to be ignoring it.  It's perfectly acceptable to make a determination on whether the moderation is biased or not based on the information we have.

 
FF Ninja said:
Great advice. No one has actually addressed my post yet. I'm anxiously awaiting someone attempting to justify Trump's growing federal and trade deficits. For all the crying about potential spending by the democrats (most of which I'm also opposed to), no one seems to bat an eye at Trump's spending or his horrific track record in business finance. He promised to fix the deficit and he's only made it worse. How is everyone ok with that? Unless you are old and/or in bad health, this (deficit) is going to impact all of us adversely at some point in our lives.
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That's too easy.  The same way everyone was "ok" with Obama, Bush or Clinton when they did that.  Trump has spent less than Obama did in the first two years, straight up.  Projected over two terms he's still less than Obama. Percentage wise he's spent less than Obama, Bush or Clinton in their first two years.  So far, despite popular opinion, the numbers say he's done a better job of the modern presidents.  If you are looking for negative numbers and reduction of dept, something no modern president has done, I don't know what to tell you.  

 
tonydead said:
I am not acting like it doesn't exist, in fact, I'm asking your for it since you claim that I'm ignoring it.  The same reason you are unable to link to it makes it impossible for me to be ignoring it.  It's perfectly acceptable to make a determination on whether the moderation is biased or not based on the information we have.
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Why would I have that information?

Why would there be a link?

The information we have is we know people from both sodes of the political spectrum have been suspended from this board.  That is a fact.  You know it...everyone knows it. There is no link to this.

 
tonydead said:
That's too easy.  The same way everyone was "ok" with Obama, Bush or Clinton when they did that.  Trump has spent less than Obama did in the first two years, straight up.  Projected over two terms he's still less than Obama. Percentage wise he's spent less than Obama, Bush or Clinton in their first two years.  So far, despite popular opinion, the numbers say he's done a better job of the modern presidents.  If you are looking for negative numbers and reduction of dept, something no modern president has done, I don't know what to tell you.  
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Your people were not ok with it. That's the hypocrisy. There were so many Fox News tears about it. Now that Trump is doing it, nobody on that side says a peep. Personally, I'm not ok with anyone doing it. D or R. It's irresponsible. I'll be livid if he gets another four years and keeps it up and I'll be livid if Warren gets elected and throws money at college debt or some other fiscally irresponsible cause. We need a president who will clean up the corruption and balance the budget. I really don't care about the social hot button issues. 

 
sho nuff said:
Why would I have that information?

Why would there be a link?

The information we have is we know people from both sodes of the political spectrum have been suspended from this board.  That is a fact.  You know it...everyone knows it. There is no link to this.
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You claimed I was ignoring data that isn't available.   Do you see a problem with that claim?

I have several suspension time data points.   One of those data points consists of a time out of 0 (zero) for a poster who called all Trump supporters maggots and traitors.  Based on what we have so far it doesn't appear to be a myth at all.

 
FF Ninja said:
Your people were not ok with it. That's the hypocrisy. There were so many Fox News tears about it. Now that Trump is doing it, nobody on that side says a peep. Personally, I'm not ok with anyone doing it. D or R. It's irresponsible. I'll be livid if he gets another four years and keeps it up and I'll be livid if Warren gets elected and throws money at college debt or some other fiscally irresponsible cause. We need a president who will clean up the corruption and balance the budget. I really don't care about the social hot button issues. 
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Who are "your people"?  

 
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