Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Some teams need to be told to stay down this year if they want to try and build with a QB for the future. I'm going to run thru a few of them and their current pulse. Please feel free to add more teams or angles I am overlooking and there will be lots with so many teams looking bad.
It hasn't taken long for other teams to see what Miami is doing. I would not be shocked if other teams join Miami in their quest for Tua or tanking for a QB. Tanking has many forms and Miami is being outed now as not designing the best game plans on Sunday almost ensuring their better players in bad positions and they can turn the switch on any time during the games if they think they might win...they are openly trying to lose football games, even the game plans are preseason in nature. I will not be shocked if Miami at a certain point becomes such the laughing stock that Goodell has to address it or other teams gripe and NEW RULES to prevent this in the future will occur. They are not doing a good job of competing and just fading in the 2nd half. They could have kept some of their talent and just had a bad 2nd half of play calls etc and maybe appear like they are trying...but not Miami they are bringing losing to a whole new level. Nobody thought Detroit was trying to lose football games when they went 0-16...and that hasn't exactly worked out perfectly has it?
Pittsburgh-If you believe in the back up in Pittsburgh and some writers were quick to jump on the fact the offense was looking smoother under Mason Rudolph but the odds that he comes in and the Steelers are a better team overall seems hard to believe. And even if Pitt decides that they need to be thinking about replacing their 37 yr old QB undergoing elbow surgery and not to return until next year, no matter because Pittsburgh just traded their 2020 1st round pick to the Miami Dolphins.
The projection of that 1st round pick is No 8 right now and Miami will gladly take it but it should be noted Miami did send back what is the equivalent of a 3rd round compensatory pick by giving back their 4th round pick so it’s not totally lopsided for the Phins but the Steelers definitely took on risk for a Slot DB. Steelers must feel like they are OK at QB with Rudolph this year and they can evaluate him for 14 weeks. I still give Pittsburgh a lot more leeway than I normally do with other perennial losers that never seem to make any good choices like the team they traded with to get him.
Cincinnati-They seem on the surface to be a little better off than some of these other teams in the 0-2 range entering this week. The head coach is certainly not interested in trying to lose every football game HOWEVER...if the team ends up 2-7 or something, and even if Dalton is having an above average season, they still have to wonder what might happen if they move in another direction for one of the top 3-4 names at QB and 2019 might be their best shot in Year 1 of the new HC, Zac Taylor to get their QB of the future and move Dalton to a team that can use him right away.
Teams have to adjust as the season rolls along what their expectations are. Teams understand now that Miami is racing to the podium to try and grab one of the top QBs, do they want to try and join them on that journey? I feel like Cinci needs to try and build around their offense even if they go 4-12 this year. They need to rebuild a lot of their defense, secondary especially looks scary.
Jacksonville Jaguars-I was not a huge fan of locking up Foles. They have too much talent to not win 5-6 games but they can’t be loving their QB situation. Jalen Ramsey wants out of Jax, this team is not exactly hitting on all cylinders but that said their defense can win a few games and you hate to let that go, it gives them an identity. They are no threat to Miami going 0-16 but Jax would be wise to try and get one of the QB prospects in 2020 and 2021.
Denver-They look terrible but again they will win 3-4 games at least, Elway should be on the hot seat but I don’t see it happening. When they brought in Manning I thought what’s the future plan? There wasn’t one but I commend him for competing and 2 trips to the SB, 1 ring to add to others the team already accomplished in the 90s. They do not have a sound structure right now and Flacco is easily one of the bottom 5 starting QBs in the NFL right now, yes/no?
Carolina Panthers-It’s possible Cam Newton is a shell of what he was originally. It’s possible the Panthers are delaying the inevitable and with so many QB prospects, how often are they going to go 4-12 or something around there? It’s possible they right the ship as the season rolls along but if they go 6-10 or worse, so many questions will happen with Cam and Ron Rivera but of the 0-2 teams at the moment they seem like one of the better ones. I think it will be hard for them to get a top 10 pick this year.
NY Giants-They are really bad but not quite in the same hemisphere as the Dolphins, they were 21-14 in the 2nd half last week vs Buffalo. They will win a game or two, even if it is under Daniel Jones in the 2nd half. Plus the Giants wanted Jones and it’s not likely they would want to go QB even in the top 5. If they had the No 1 overall pick they might think about trading out but is Daniel Jones that secure of a pick from last year? They’re going to be torn apart if they grab another QB in the 2020 draft...that said I think teams that need QBs should constantly take them with high picks until they find the right one.
The Giants would be wise to take a page from the Colts and realize how bad Eli is at this point as a bottom 5 starter and and figure out a plan to replace a Manning...but they did that in this year’s draft if you believe in Jones. The Giants will be interesting should they go 0-6 or something to start the season. I believe they will win a few games along the way but they look pitiful in their secondary and on defense.
Washington Redskins-They’re trying and fighting, they can beat the Giants. And what would they do with Haskins? They don’t appear like QB players but maybe they should be. Some of this list is to point at certain teams and wonder why they are not openly joining the Phins in a quest for a better draft spot. Do people believe in Haskins long term vs a prospect like Tua or Jalen Hurts in Oklahoma?
Miami Dolphins-They’re doing it better than anyone on this list. I do not believe it makes our organization look wise to trade away top 1st round selections and strip the cabinets bare, it’s the absolute lowest form of competing you can bring to the table but Ross is convinced that the kid from Alabama is the QB of a generation, the type you go 0-16 in hopes to get.
Other teams that should have thought about tanking or wishing they had figured out sooner that they are competing for a top 5 pick in 2020...Tampa Bay because Winston has looked shaky and where are they going to be if they don’t move forward with Winston as their QB? Still time to evaluate him this year but the writing is on the wall.
New York Jets-They already selected their QB of the future, most critics like him. They are 0-2 and appear to be on a collision course for an 0-7 Showdown with the Miami Dolphins who are working on their TankPlan for that game as we speak...they hadn’t planned on WonderBoy becoming the head coach of the Jets. Never underestimate a division rival I always say. They are in a bad spot because if fans turn on Darnold or hint they want to select again with Tua/Hurts/Etc...that doesn’t seem to work but anytime you can lock up a franchise QB for the next 10 years, you almost always have to take that guy or trade with someone who will.
Teams that likely need to address their QB situation sooner or later...New Orleans as Teddy B is not making folks feel confident. I would say both Tennessee and Indianapolis are up in the air where they are at the moment.
It hasn't taken long for other teams to see what Miami is doing. I would not be shocked if other teams join Miami in their quest for Tua or tanking for a QB. Tanking has many forms and Miami is being outed now as not designing the best game plans on Sunday almost ensuring their better players in bad positions and they can turn the switch on any time during the games if they think they might win...they are openly trying to lose football games, even the game plans are preseason in nature. I will not be shocked if Miami at a certain point becomes such the laughing stock that Goodell has to address it or other teams gripe and NEW RULES to prevent this in the future will occur. They are not doing a good job of competing and just fading in the 2nd half. They could have kept some of their talent and just had a bad 2nd half of play calls etc and maybe appear like they are trying...but not Miami they are bringing losing to a whole new level. Nobody thought Detroit was trying to lose football games when they went 0-16...and that hasn't exactly worked out perfectly has it?
Pittsburgh-If you believe in the back up in Pittsburgh and some writers were quick to jump on the fact the offense was looking smoother under Mason Rudolph but the odds that he comes in and the Steelers are a better team overall seems hard to believe. And even if Pitt decides that they need to be thinking about replacing their 37 yr old QB undergoing elbow surgery and not to return until next year, no matter because Pittsburgh just traded their 2020 1st round pick to the Miami Dolphins.
The projection of that 1st round pick is No 8 right now and Miami will gladly take it but it should be noted Miami did send back what is the equivalent of a 3rd round compensatory pick by giving back their 4th round pick so it’s not totally lopsided for the Phins but the Steelers definitely took on risk for a Slot DB. Steelers must feel like they are OK at QB with Rudolph this year and they can evaluate him for 14 weeks. I still give Pittsburgh a lot more leeway than I normally do with other perennial losers that never seem to make any good choices like the team they traded with to get him.
Cincinnati-They seem on the surface to be a little better off than some of these other teams in the 0-2 range entering this week. The head coach is certainly not interested in trying to lose every football game HOWEVER...if the team ends up 2-7 or something, and even if Dalton is having an above average season, they still have to wonder what might happen if they move in another direction for one of the top 3-4 names at QB and 2019 might be their best shot in Year 1 of the new HC, Zac Taylor to get their QB of the future and move Dalton to a team that can use him right away.
Teams have to adjust as the season rolls along what their expectations are. Teams understand now that Miami is racing to the podium to try and grab one of the top QBs, do they want to try and join them on that journey? I feel like Cinci needs to try and build around their offense even if they go 4-12 this year. They need to rebuild a lot of their defense, secondary especially looks scary.
Jacksonville Jaguars-I was not a huge fan of locking up Foles. They have too much talent to not win 5-6 games but they can’t be loving their QB situation. Jalen Ramsey wants out of Jax, this team is not exactly hitting on all cylinders but that said their defense can win a few games and you hate to let that go, it gives them an identity. They are no threat to Miami going 0-16 but Jax would be wise to try and get one of the QB prospects in 2020 and 2021.
Denver-They look terrible but again they will win 3-4 games at least, Elway should be on the hot seat but I don’t see it happening. When they brought in Manning I thought what’s the future plan? There wasn’t one but I commend him for competing and 2 trips to the SB, 1 ring to add to others the team already accomplished in the 90s. They do not have a sound structure right now and Flacco is easily one of the bottom 5 starting QBs in the NFL right now, yes/no?
Carolina Panthers-It’s possible Cam Newton is a shell of what he was originally. It’s possible the Panthers are delaying the inevitable and with so many QB prospects, how often are they going to go 4-12 or something around there? It’s possible they right the ship as the season rolls along but if they go 6-10 or worse, so many questions will happen with Cam and Ron Rivera but of the 0-2 teams at the moment they seem like one of the better ones. I think it will be hard for them to get a top 10 pick this year.
NY Giants-They are really bad but not quite in the same hemisphere as the Dolphins, they were 21-14 in the 2nd half last week vs Buffalo. They will win a game or two, even if it is under Daniel Jones in the 2nd half. Plus the Giants wanted Jones and it’s not likely they would want to go QB even in the top 5. If they had the No 1 overall pick they might think about trading out but is Daniel Jones that secure of a pick from last year? They’re going to be torn apart if they grab another QB in the 2020 draft...that said I think teams that need QBs should constantly take them with high picks until they find the right one.
The Giants would be wise to take a page from the Colts and realize how bad Eli is at this point as a bottom 5 starter and and figure out a plan to replace a Manning...but they did that in this year’s draft if you believe in Jones. The Giants will be interesting should they go 0-6 or something to start the season. I believe they will win a few games along the way but they look pitiful in their secondary and on defense.
Washington Redskins-They’re trying and fighting, they can beat the Giants. And what would they do with Haskins? They don’t appear like QB players but maybe they should be. Some of this list is to point at certain teams and wonder why they are not openly joining the Phins in a quest for a better draft spot. Do people believe in Haskins long term vs a prospect like Tua or Jalen Hurts in Oklahoma?
Miami Dolphins-They’re doing it better than anyone on this list. I do not believe it makes our organization look wise to trade away top 1st round selections and strip the cabinets bare, it’s the absolute lowest form of competing you can bring to the table but Ross is convinced that the kid from Alabama is the QB of a generation, the type you go 0-16 in hopes to get.
Other teams that should have thought about tanking or wishing they had figured out sooner that they are competing for a top 5 pick in 2020...Tampa Bay because Winston has looked shaky and where are they going to be if they don’t move forward with Winston as their QB? Still time to evaluate him this year but the writing is on the wall.
New York Jets-They already selected their QB of the future, most critics like him. They are 0-2 and appear to be on a collision course for an 0-7 Showdown with the Miami Dolphins who are working on their TankPlan for that game as we speak...they hadn’t planned on WonderBoy becoming the head coach of the Jets. Never underestimate a division rival I always say. They are in a bad spot because if fans turn on Darnold or hint they want to select again with Tua/Hurts/Etc...that doesn’t seem to work but anytime you can lock up a franchise QB for the next 10 years, you almost always have to take that guy or trade with someone who will.
Teams that likely need to address their QB situation sooner or later...New Orleans as Teddy B is not making folks feel confident. I would say both Tennessee and Indianapolis are up in the air where they are at the moment.