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Twitter thread: Elon rebrands Twitter [joke redacted] (1 Viewer)

mr. furley said:
Dezbelief said:
Joe Bryant said:
Dezbelief said:
I was on the platform anonymously(as a lurker), now I'm not(lurkers not allowed).
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Thanks. I understood what you meant. That was a big change for them.

Clearly the content you were seeing there wasn't much value to you.
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Not enough for me to give my personal information to enrich a billionaire. I'm not on FB either. There was plenty of information on twitter I found useful and I had no problem with the site getting ad revenue off of my lurking,
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if you use the internet..... at all..... your personal information is enriching billionaires already.
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if you are online and cant figure out what the prodcut is then you are the product take that to the bank brohans
 
I live about six blocks from HQ and had to pass by there while riding downtown this afternoon. The old logo and name have been removed from the street-level sign on Market and 10th. It's now a blank sign and non-functioning clock. They made progress since the last time I went past on Thursday when about half the letters still remained. Unfortunately they were removing them from the beginning of the word so it wouldn't say "twit".

The new sign is hard to see from the street (in the daytime at least) but Musk is playing to the online audience.
 
In news that isn’t very surprising given the recent history of Twitter, which Elon Musk is currently rebranding to X, the company won’t be able to make some promised payments on time. The X Support account says that because its “Ads Revenue Sharing” program is so popular, “We need a bit more time to review everything for the next payout and aim to get all eligible accounts paid as soon as possible.”

www.theverge.com

Elon Musk’s X can’t send Blue subscribers their ad revenue-sharing payouts on time

Friday night is a good time to announce you’re not paying your bills.
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Capella said:
IvanKaramazov said:
Willie Neslon said:

Here's an NFL expert on twitter. The last reply is porn. It's has an NSFW tag so you have to click it to see it (which is preferable to the videos of penetration that just appear pretty much daily). Can anyone else see it? You may have to click "show additional replies" at the bottom.
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Yes, I can see the posts you're referring to. But I had to click like four or five "show more replies" buttons to get there, plus another "show replies replies that might be offensive" button, then a "show me the NSFW material" button. That's kind of like blaming my web browser for showing me porn when I merely typed in the name of a porn site, hit enter, and started clicking on videos.
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Yes, again, in this case. I doubt Willie is going to post a link to hardcore porn on this site. He already said about 5 posts up about another encounter he found without a warning and he directed you to how you could see the example if you so choose.

I don’t know why you’re so eager to blame the users here (multiple times now you’ve done that) instead of the poor system that is now in place.
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Why do you care about this so much?
 
Desert_Power said:
Gotta love going with the same color scheme of the Threads app too. Not confusing on the home page.
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I noticed that too as they were next to each other on my phone screen. Odd choice. I had to actually move one of them so it wasn't so confusing.
 
massraider said:
Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter

Some potential candidates:


Musk fires Twitter engineers for correcting, criticizing him on Twitter​

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Hypocrisy aside, I’m trying to figure out what the basis for these suits would be. While there are some states that prohibit adverse employment actions based upon political activity, the majority of states would protect the right of a private business to employ or fire who they wish based upon their public speech. Perhaps this is referring to public employees like teachers.
 
massraider said:
Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter

Some potential candidates:


Musk fires Twitter engineers for correcting, criticizing him on Twitter​

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I have to assume this is a joke or just a little attempt at some free press or something. I can not imagine X going around suing companies left and right. What kind of activity on Twitter could have even got someone fired? Posting racist stuff? Threatening people? Posting super political things when are employed in a position that inherently requires some level of neutrality? Liking NAZI propaganda? Shady stuff with kids? Is this really what you want your company filing a bunch of law suits defending?
 
bigbottom said:
massraider said:
Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter

Some potential candidates:


Musk fires Twitter engineers for correcting, criticizing him on Twitter​

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Hypocrisy aside, I’m trying to figure out what the basis for these suits would be. While there are some states that prohibit adverse employment actions based upon political activity, the majority of states would protect the right of a private business to employ or fire who they wish based upon their public speech. Perhaps this is referring to public employees like teachers.
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It's highly likely if not probable that you have put way more thought into this matter with this statement than Musk did with his. If he had, he wouldn't have made the comment.
 
bigbottom said:
massraider said:
Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter

Some potential candidates:


Musk fires Twitter engineers for correcting, criticizing him on Twitter​

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Hypocrisy aside, I’m trying to figure out what the basis for these suits would be. While there are some states that prohibit adverse employment actions based upon political activity, the majority of states would protect the right of a private business to employ or fire who they wish based upon their public speech. Perhaps this is referring to public employees like teachers.
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Are there really public school teachers being fired for liking/tweeting things that weren't totally reprehensible?
 
Ilov80s said:
bigbottom said:
massraider said:
Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter

Some potential candidates:


Musk fires Twitter engineers for correcting, criticizing him on Twitter​

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Hypocrisy aside, I’m trying to figure out what the basis for these suits would be. While there are some states that prohibit adverse employment actions based upon political activity, the majority of states would protect the right of a private business to employ or fire who they wish based upon their public speech. Perhaps this is referring to public employees like teachers.
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Are there really public school teachers being fired for liking/tweeting things that weren't totally reprehensible?
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Probably not, but would be interesting if someone bankrolled their defense on principle.
 
Ilov80s said:
bigbottom said:
massraider said:
Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter

Some potential candidates:


Musk fires Twitter engineers for correcting, criticizing him on Twitter​

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Hypocrisy aside, I’m trying to figure out what the basis for these suits would be. While there are some states that prohibit adverse employment actions based upon political activity, the majority of states would protect the right of a private business to employ or fire who they wish based upon their public speech. Perhaps this is referring to public employees like teachers.
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Are there really public school teachers being fired for liking/tweeting things that weren't totally reprehensible?
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I can tell you with 100% certainty that the answer to this question is yes. Now, I'm talking about higher ed and not K-12, but I would be shocked if there was not at least some level of viewpoint discrimination at that level as well -- I say that based on knowing a very large number of people who teach in teacher-ed programs.
 
IvanKaramazov said:
I can tell you with 100% certainty that the answer to this question is yes. Now, I'm talking about higher ed and not K-12, but I would be shocked if there was not at least some level of viewpoint discrimination at that level as well -- I say that based on knowing a very large number of people who teach in teacher-ed programs.
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No question.
 
IvanKaramazov said:
Ilov80s said:
bigbottom said:
massraider said:
Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter

Some potential candidates:


Musk fires Twitter engineers for correcting, criticizing him on Twitter​

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Hypocrisy aside, I’m trying to figure out what the basis for these suits would be. While there are some states that prohibit adverse employment actions based upon political activity, the majority of states would protect the right of a private business to employ or fire who they wish based upon their public speech. Perhaps this is referring to public employees like teachers.
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Are there really public school teachers being fired for liking/tweeting things that weren't totally reprehensible?
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I can tell you with 100% certainty that the answer to this question is yes. Now, I'm talking about higher ed and not K-12, but I would be shocked if there was not at least some level of viewpoint discrimination at that level as well -- I say that based on knowing a very large number of people who teach in teacher-ed programs.
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I hadn’t thought about higher ed. I did a quick Google and it does seem there were a few K-12 stories that were reasonably defensible and not in the area of sex crime or anything horrific.
 
Gotta wonder if Elon recently just taking over @music's twitter handle of 16 years for no other reason than because he wanted it makes people re-think building up a huge follower base there. Gotta be hard to invest your entire business into that when the owner shows that if he decides he likes it, he'll just take it for himself.
 
Tried to DM a business account on Twitter, and it says only verified users can DM accounts that dont follow them unless they sign up for Blue for $115/yr

Huh?! I've DM'd several business accounts in the past. Now I can't? Smh.

Thanks, Elon. 🤬
 
Wingnut said:
Tried to DM a business account on Twitter, and it says only verified users can DM accounts that dont follow them unless they sign up for Blue for $115/yr

Huh?! I've DM'd several business accounts in the past. Now I can't? Smh.

Thanks, Elon. 🤬
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I think that is more on the business that you are trying to DM. I think can set it to receive DMs from anyone, just people that you follow, or verified users.

ETA: E.g., if I pull up Footballguys on twitter, and click on the mailbox, it brings up the screen to let me send a DM.
 
IvanKaramazov said:
bigbottom said:
Is this a new development or was it always that way? Sounds disturbing. I’ve only just recently dipped my toe in the Twitterverse and for now only follow a few sports people.
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For me it's new. I can't give you a specific date or anything, but probably like the last couple of months or so.

The irritating thing is that when I block these accounts or otherwise tell Twitter that I don't want to see them, the algorithm doesn't seem to update its priors. I won't see the exact particular account that I just blocked, but it's replaced by some other bot-driven engagement farm that serves up the exact same violent content. If I was conspiracy-minded, I would say that Twitter was force-feeding me this stuff, but I'm sure it's just a busted algorithm.

I'm sure people here know this already, but I don't intentionally follow any accounts that promote violence, and I don't follow accounts that wink and nod at violence. If you looked at the accounts I follow, you would see a lot of Megan McArdles and Noah Smiths in there, not antifa or MAGA types. That tells me that there's just something about "follows politics" that the algorithm links to "violent psycopathy." On one hand, that's an interesting thing to know. But I do wish I could tell the algorithm that I mean it when I say that I don't want this stuff.
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Not sure if others have had the same experience, but this stopped for me a while back. I'm not sure whether it was a function of me finally blocking the right account, or if X changed the algorithm that was feeding me this content, but it's been a little while since I've seen a fight video turn up in the For You tab.
 
Here's a great example of something that never used to happen and happens all the time now...

I searched "Big Bear" to see how Hilary was impacting Big Bear Lake. Maybe 10th in my scrolling was two dudes straight f... uh, fully engaged. I've used Twitter Search to keep up with breaking news for years and never had this problem until recently.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Here's a great example of something that never used to happen and happens all the time now...

I searched "Big Bear" to see how Hilary was impacting Big Bear Lake. Maybe 10th in my scrolling was two dudes straight f... uh, fully engaged. I've used Twitter Search to keep up with breaking news for years and never had this problem until recently.
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Sure thing guy. NTTAWWT.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Here's a great example of something that never used to happen and happens all the time now...

I searched "Big Bear" to see how Hilary was impacting Big Bear Lake. Maybe 10th in my scrolling was two dudes straight f... uh, fully engaged. I've used Twitter Search to keep up with breaking news for years and never had this problem until recently.
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I swear honey. "Reverse Cowgirl" is the name of a small hamlet in New England -- I was looking for a quaint B&B to surprise you with as an anniversary present. And stay out of my search history please.
 
Mister CIA said:
It's been about six weeks since I deleted my Xwitter account - had grown sick of the digital vomit (stole that term from Sam Harris). It's been a rough adjustment breaking the habit, but it's getting better.
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Debating this as well. The quality has gone down -- not just due to Elon's changes, but those and his presence have changed the tone of twitter and the information that is available.
 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Here's a great example of something that never used to happen and happens all the time now...

I searched "Big Bear" to see how Hilary was impacting Big Bear Lake. Maybe 10th in my scrolling was two dudes straight f... uh, fully engaged. I've used Twitter Search to keep up with breaking news for years and never had this problem until recently.
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You weren't aware of that meaning of "Bear"?
 
Musk turns off Starlink to help Russia

Elon Musk ordered his Starlink satellite communications network to be turned off near the Crimean coast last year to hobble a Ukrainian drone attack on Russian warships, according to a new biography.

CNN quoted an excerpt from the biography Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson, which described how armed submarine drones were approaching their targets when they “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly”.


The biography, due out on Tuesday, alleges Musk ordered Starlink engineers to turn off service in the area of the attack because of his concern that Vladimir Putin would respond with nuclear weapons to a Ukrainian attack on Russian-occupied Crimea. He is reported to have said that Ukraine was “going too far” in threatening to inflict a “strategic defeat” on the Kremlin.
 
:lmao: No I'm not going to pay to read Twitter. It provides good value, but there are too many free sources of information on the internet to pay for this sort of product.

I understand that Twitter has a problem with ad revenue, but that's Twitter's problem, not mine. In the meantime, we badly need a public square that is not subject to the kind of censorship pressure imposed by (a) the previous Twitter regime, (b) various governments, and (c) advertisers. If that means a return to the olden days of message boards and blogs, fine with me. I prefer long-form articles like those at Substack anyway. Moving away from the micro-blogging model of Twitter would have the effect of weeding out some of the more dim-witted users.
 
IvanKaramazov said:
:lmao: No I'm not going to pay to read Twitter. It provides good value, but there are too many free sources of information on the internet to pay for this sort of product.

I understand that Twitter has a problem with ad revenue, but that's Twitter's problem, not mine. In the meantime, we badly need a public square that is not subject to the kind of censorship pressure imposed by (a) the previous Twitter regime, (b) various governments, and (c) advertisers. If that means a return to the olden days of message boards and blogs, fine with me. I prefer long-form articles like those at Substack anyway. Moving away from the micro-blogging model of Twitter would have the effect of weeding out some of the more dim-witted users.
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There's a hell of a lot of services that I use a lot that I refuse to pay any extra money for, so this would definitely not happen. I only signed up for my daughter's recruiting in the first place lol
 
massraider said:
IvanKaramazov said:
In the meantime, we badly need a public square that is not subject to the kind of censorship pressure imposed by (a) the previous Twitter regime
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Do we? is it really necessary for everyone to reach everyone?
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I don't think the way you've stated it here does justice to the value of Twitter for me. No, it is not necessary for everyone to reach everyone, and I could easily do without Twitter, but the information sharing and breaking news aspect of Twitter is unique as far as I know. The ability to follow people and get their off-the-cuff opinions on things of interest to me has value. In contrast, the commentary/discussion aspect of it has little value, just like I'm not going to read the comment section on Youtube. But I don't see myself paying a subscription fee for Twitter - even a very small one - just out of principle. Its backwards to me for a model that depends on users to make money to charge those users for access.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
I don't think the way you've stated it here does justice to the value of Twitter for me. No, it is not necessary for everyone to reach everyone, and I could easily do without Twitter, but the information sharing and breaking news aspect of Twitter is unique as far as I know. The ability to follow people and get their off-the-cuff opinions on things of interest to me has value. In contrast, the commentary/discussion aspect of it has little value, just like I'm not going to read the comment section on Youtube. But I don't see myself paying a subscription fee for Twitter - even a very small one - just out of principle. Its backwards to me for a model that depends on users to make money to charge those users for access.
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I agree with you 100%.

The public square concept always gives me an idea of people exchanging ideas, and having discussions. Which Twitter is NOT. Let's have that online resource for breaking news, and following people you like.

Should this same resource also be the place where any person anywhere can say that nastiest stuff they can think of? Does it NEED to be that place?
 
massraider said:
Should this same resource also be the place where any person anywhere can say that nastiest stuff they can think of? Does it NEED to be that place?
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This seems to be the very difficult question. It doesn't personally bother me because I'm numb to people being horrible and stupid on the internet, so I prefer things staying more open and unmoderated. Some of the stuff I learned from the Twitter Files was offensive and shocking. That's not to say Musk isn't doing the same things, or doing anything any better. I was fine with Twitter the way it was run before, in part out of my own ignorance, and I'm fine with the way its being run now. I guess its somewhat odd that I won't pay for it, but I think that's the case.
 
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