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Two weeks in...what is your Top 10 WR list? (1 Viewer)
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Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
Fitz
AJ
Moss
CJ
Smith
Colston
Wayne
White
Jennings
Boldin
pretty much no changes since preseason
AJ
Moss
CJ
Smith
Colston
Wayne
White
Jennings
Boldin
pretty much no changes since preseason
What he said
ft_ball_fan
Footballguy
Interesting... with a putrid Delhomme at QB I don't have Smith in the top 5--probably would put him at the bottom of the top 10... and I put Colston up there higher w/his 3 TD's and awesome QB play from Brees. Not saying this is based on talent but on prospects for a solid FF year...
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Andre Johnson
Reggie Wayne
Greg Jennings
Marques Colston
Calvin Johnson
Roddy White
Vincent Jackson
Dwayne Bowe
Santonio Holmes
Larry Fitzgerald
Reggie Wayne
Greg Jennings
Marques Colston
Calvin Johnson
Roddy White
Vincent Jackson
Dwayne Bowe
Santonio Holmes
Larry Fitzgerald
The Jerk
Footballguy
What if he had two?
fozzy fosbourne
Footballguy
I think Ocho and Vincent Jackson are fighting to be in that list .. not ready to demote Jennings or White or anyone else, but so far, those two look as good as most of these guys.
BringItOn
Footballguy
I could easily see taking White out of the top 10 Fantasy WR at this point. Perhaps not Talent-wise though. Two weeks in, and the impact of Gonzo in White is most certainly evident.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Well said. I like Vincent Jackson a lot but I'm not sure he'll maintain his numbers when the softer part of the schedule hits in the middle eight games. There's a lot of games that San Diego should be leading throughout. Now it's possible San Diego throws to get the lead, but even then they are unlikely to throw all game long. I guess what I'm saying is that I expect his numbers to go down when San Diego leads games. In their two games so far, they've led for fewer than 15 minutes combined.
strong
Footballguy
i thought the same thing but he's still top 10 in targets, which surprised me. i just posted a thread on this. his yards are down, but 20 targets is indication that his yards will come up and his scores should be there.i think he's actually a good buy candidate right now. owners that don't pay attention to targets, especially in non-ppr leagues, may be more willing to sell him.
What he said
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Odd. As the #2 receiving option, wouldn't it stand to reason that Jackson would be a big part of them leading throughout? Also, I think that assessment is overestimating the Chargers D by a wide margin.
The Jerk
Footballguy
I'm not sure he's #2 anymore, I'd say he's #1. I am basing my evaluation on the less than stellar offenses I see on the Chargers schedule from games 5-12 and on the premise that teams with the lead will tend to run the ball more than throw it. It's possible San Diego continues to throw, but that has not traditionally been the Norv Turner way. Last season, including the playoffs, Jackson scored five of his eight TDs in the nine Charger losses. In the nine Charger wins, Jackson scored only three TDs. One of the three TDs came in the miracle win in KC (onside kick, two TDs in the last two minutes). There's a lot of reasons that the numbers worked out that way, but that's part of the logic behind my statement. I still see Jackson top 15 but I could see TDs keeping him out of the top ten. Splitting hairs, really, as he's a guy I want on my roster in any format.
Jersey35
Footballguy
Jake Delhomme is the exact same QB he's always been, and Steve Smith has *ALWAYS* averaged 100 yards per game when Jake Delhomme is starting. This year looks to be no exception, as Smiff leads the league in targets with 14 a game (which would work out to an obscene 224 over a full season- don't expect that number to hold up). Delhomme's a poor NFL QB, but he has the biggest case of tunnel vision I have *EVER* seen, and he turns his #1 WR into a fantasy uberstud.ft_ball_fan said:
I think people underestimate how good of a QB Rivers is. I think he ends up the #2 fantasy QB and Jackson will benefit and end up a top 5 WR. I look for Manningham to keep his job and be a top 10 WR. Santonio Holmes will all be a top 5 WR.
fsufan
Footballguy
he has a TD each game
drfeelgood
Footballguy
Delhomme played pretty well against the Falcons this past weekend.ft_ball_fan said:
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
I agree. He faced Balt the 1st game and the best CB in football in the 2nd. Gets much easier from here on out.thehornet said:
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
Your joking right? no change? Please....Colston at the top BAR none...I've been saying it, even before his 3 tds already!Colston could double his output this week!And when you have a QB who is on fire like he is, how can you not bump up Colston!Moss has no TD's and Jennings put up a 0! Granted still good but would u take either before Colston or even S. Holmes?And after WEEK 2 (which I thought this thread was), u have to do it right and throw Manningham in there!Mimo said:Anonymous Internet User said:What he said
fsufan
Footballguy
i think Brees spreads the ball around to much, Colston only has 15 targets in 2 games but he is catching 78% of his targets. I think he is top 10 not top 5Your joking right? no change? Please....Colston at the top BAR none...I've been saying it, even before his 3 tds already!Colston could double his output this week!And when you have a QB who is on fire like he is, how can you not bump up Colston!Moss has no TD's and Jennings put up a 0! Granted still good but would u take either before Colston or even S. Holmes?And after WEEK 2 (which I thought this thread was), u have to do it right and throw Manningham in there!Mimo said:Anonymous Internet User said:What he said
Fitz
A. Johnson
Moss
Colston
C. Johnson
Wayne (after Dallas Clark's exhibition last night, he should see a lot of looks the next few weeks)
V. Jackson
Holmes (Pittsburgh looks like they will have no running game this year, and Holmes finally seems to have grown up)
S. Smith (Giants)
Ocho Cinco (Cincinnati looks like an actual, real live team this year!)
Leaving off S. Smith Carolina because they could well be 1-7 or 2-6 at the halfway point of the season, and switch to Moore at QB. That will kill Smith's value.\
Leaving Jennings off, tentatively, until it looks like Green Bay can block enough to allow Rodgers to throw without imminent death.
Leaving White off because of Gonzo
Leaving Boldin off until he manages to show he can run after the catch.
A. Johnson
Moss
Colston
C. Johnson
Wayne (after Dallas Clark's exhibition last night, he should see a lot of looks the next few weeks)
V. Jackson
Holmes (Pittsburgh looks like they will have no running game this year, and Holmes finally seems to have grown up)
S. Smith (Giants)
Ocho Cinco (Cincinnati looks like an actual, real live team this year!)
Leaving off S. Smith Carolina because they could well be 1-7 or 2-6 at the halfway point of the season, and switch to Moore at QB. That will kill Smith's value.\
Leaving Jennings off, tentatively, until it looks like Green Bay can block enough to allow Rodgers to throw without imminent death.
Leaving White off because of Gonzo
Leaving Boldin off until he manages to show he can run after the catch.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
DeSean Jackson is knocking on the door
The Jerk
Footballguy
Is that the same Matt Moore who QB'd the last three games of the 2007 season, in which Steve Smith went 22-257-1?Or is that a different Matt Moore?
Tenacious
Footballguy
After 2 games, you're going to crown Colston #1???Maybe he has cracked the top 10, but number 1??!!!And Manningham doesn't belong there just yet, lets see if he can keep it up first.
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
Wasnt that the Question?Read before you post!
After 2 games, you're going to crown Colston #1???
Maybe he has cracked the top 10, but number 1??!!!
And Manningham doesn't belong there just yet, lets see if he can keep it up first.
I think Brees is going to throw for 5000 yards and around 35 TDs with Colston being the first guy he looks at. This is not about being the most talented in the NFL, this is about scoring fantasy points. I think Colston, V Jackson, S. Holmes, and Manningham's stocks have sky rocketed.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Doesn't matter which Matt Moore it is. As long as John Fox is still the coach and Delhomme has the ridiculous contract, Delhomme is the starting QB. if he's healthy. 2-6, 6-2, 4-4. Doesn't matter. Not saying Fox won't pull him mid game if he puts up another 4 pick disaster, but he'll roll him right back out there the following week. Fox's ### is on the line to win. I doubt very highly that if someone put a gun to his head and told him "Win, or we pull the trigger!" that he'd pick Matt Moore or A.J. Feeley over Jake.As mentioned....I don't think there's a QB with a harsher case of tunnel vision for his #1 target than Delhomme.
Manningham has looked outstanding and appears to have a bright future, but to claim that he is a top 10 WR at this point is silly (through 2 games he is, but he won't be for 2009).
What's interesting that nobody has even mentioned Steve Smith (NYG). Now I don't think for a second that Smith is going to be a top 10 WR either, although I think that he will finish with better numbers than Manningham this season, especially in ppr leagues. Through two games, Smith has four more targets, three more receptions, six more yards, and one less TD than Manningham. If/when Hixon and Nicks get healthy, you're going to see a much bigger dip in Manningham's numbers than you will in Smith's. If I'm looking to pick-up or trade for a solid #2-3 WR for the remainder of 2009, I would much prefer Smith than Manningham. But neither will be a Top 10 fantasy WR this year.
The other guy that I'm not hearing much mention of is Santonio Holmes. Anyone who has watched the Steelers can see that they have not been proficient at running the ball this season. I don't expect that to change much, and I would bump Roethlisberger's projections way up. In the past, Hines Ward has been the go-to guy in the passing game with Holmes serving more as the big play/deep threat receiver. This appears to be changing. Through two games, Holmes has 14 catches on 25 targets (2nd only to SSmith) and 214 yds (tied for 1st) with one TD. I think Holmes has a great shot to finish in the Top 10 this season.
What's interesting that nobody has even mentioned Steve Smith (NYG). Now I don't think for a second that Smith is going to be a top 10 WR either, although I think that he will finish with better numbers than Manningham this season, especially in ppr leagues. Through two games, Smith has four more targets, three more receptions, six more yards, and one less TD than Manningham. If/when Hixon and Nicks get healthy, you're going to see a much bigger dip in Manningham's numbers than you will in Smith's. If I'm looking to pick-up or trade for a solid #2-3 WR for the remainder of 2009, I would much prefer Smith than Manningham. But neither will be a Top 10 fantasy WR this year.
The other guy that I'm not hearing much mention of is Santonio Holmes. Anyone who has watched the Steelers can see that they have not been proficient at running the ball this season. I don't expect that to change much, and I would bump Roethlisberger's projections way up. In the past, Hines Ward has been the go-to guy in the passing game with Holmes serving more as the big play/deep threat receiver. This appears to be changing. Through two games, Holmes has 14 catches on 25 targets (2nd only to SSmith) and 214 yds (tied for 1st) with one TD. I think Holmes has a great shot to finish in the Top 10 this season.
abe froman
Footballguy
First off AJ is #1..PERIOD!, Next you gotta take Fitz, then Id say Wayne, THEN I can see a case for COLSTON maybe at #4. I like VJax and he's on a tear but he's doing great with avg targets. I think he's #1 in yds/rec if you compare to any other WR that has at least 4 catches a game..? Here's my assumption after 2 weeks:1. AJ2. Fitz
3. Wayne
4. Colston-could very easily be CJ here or even R.Moss
5. R.Moss
6. CJ
7. S.Holmes
8. S.Smith -CAR
9. *Welker* as long as he doesnt miss more time; Brady will not have as much time as he has in the past to look deep.. 16 targets 1 game, 16 targets Edelman(spellcheck?)
10. Jennings
**On the fringe: Bowe, R.White, A.Boldin, V.Jax. *If Welker plays week 2 he's lookin at another 16 targets putting him at 32 through 2 games!! Could be underestimating him at 9!
p.s. Are we talking about opinions on overall rankings based on performance thus far or are we just assigning them based on their current stats?? I think we all know how to check stats so I dont think that was the point of this thread. Maybe the OP can adjust the title to state "who will END UP top 10"
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Tong Po
Footballguy
Wow... one bad game and Moss is out of the Top 10?
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Moss is #11 on my board currently. Don't get me wrong, I don't have him at 37th or anything. I'll admit, 11 could be several notches too low. Wouldn't raise an eyebrow if he finished top 5. For whatever reason, Brady isn't "right" yet. Merely an acknowlegement of that fact.
Especially if you get points for return yardage/TDs or if you are in a big-play league.
You're right, Moore did well with Smith the last three games of 2007. I had Smith that year, and missed the playoffs, so those games didn't stick in my memory. It was the 9 weeks of Carr/Testaverde holding Smith to the constant 4-40-0 lines that burned in memory.Smith will be fine with any half-competent QB, you're right.The Jerk said:
The Jerk
Footballguy
The scary part is that I had to think about who in Carolina is up to that designation. 
MCguidance
Footballguy
Boldin is not top 10 right now, Steve Smith is, though.
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bcr8f
Footballguy
No KC receiver should be in there with their QB situation.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
1. AJ
2. Wayne
3. R Moss
4. Fitz
5. Holmes
6. VJax
7. Megatron
8. Colston (not nearly enough targets to push him higher, which is too bad as I own him)
9. S Smith (Carolina)
10. White (still getting targets, production will come)
2. Wayne
3. R Moss
4. Fitz
5. Holmes
6. VJax
7. Megatron
8. Colston (not nearly enough targets to push him higher, which is too bad as I own him)
9. S Smith (Carolina)
10. White (still getting targets, production will come)
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Both Fitz and Boldin in the top 5 this year is an absolute PIPE DREAM. The Cards defense is improved, their running game will "be improved" and Kurt Warner is old. The Cards passing game you see right now is it. There are no 400 yd. 4-5 TD aces up the sleeve here. Warner at QB 14 is the reality of this situation at almost the best case scenario. And that's not an overreaction to two weeks, I've felt that way since May.travdogg said:
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Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
He's in with Kolb. With McNabb?
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
You're saying McNabb is a downgrade? Both TDs from Kolb were mid-range catch and runs. Pretty sure he can do that with anyone.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
The two best games of his career have come with Kolb in back to back games. That's what I'm saying. With the exception of TO, receivers running routs for McNabb have been worthless. Granted, most of them have sucked, but the list of receivers with receptions in a McNabb game is typically ten deep, and he typically doesn't throw for 350-400 yards like Kolb is doing. The nature of Jackson's TD catches doesn't mean anything. I hope Jackson flourishes with McNabb, I just don't have as much confidence that he will. If you told me Kolb was going to behind center for year, I'd say Jackson has a very strong chance to be in the top ten at the end of the year because they've shown in two consecutive weeks something that Jackson and McNabb have never really shown save for a few flashes.You're saying McNabb is a downgrade? Both TDs from Kolb were mid-range catch and runs. Pretty sure he can do that with anyone.
