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I have Big Ben and Orton on a good fantasy team and started Thigpen on a wing and a prayer this week. An unexpected - Wow!

Over the last 3 weeks, he's been the hottest quarterback in fantasy football not named Kurt. He has a remaining schedule that is littered with creampuff match-ups. He has legit targets in Gonzo, Bowe and now Bradley - and there is a decent chance that Larry Johnson returns for the stretch run.

Who owns this guy?

Who started him this week?

Can he keep putting up 20+ point efforts?

 
Nice to see someone, ANYONE, acting like they got a pair for the Chief's.

He gets a nice extended audition this season. Providing Herm can figure out a way to keep him upright. Herm is a quarterback killer.

 
I'll have my crow a la mode. i think i called the guy "wretched" a few weeks back in some thread around here. he's playing well. still throws a lot of bad passes, but he's showing nice poise in the pocket and arm strength.

 
I will start him over Sage and Orton in week 11 when he faces the New Orleans Saints secondary with Mke McKenzie out for the year.

And for what its worth, I am a Saints homer :loco:

 
I'll have my crow a la mode. i think i called the guy "wretched" a few weeks back in some thread around here. he's playing well. still throws a lot of bad passes, but he's showing nice poise in the pocket and arm strength.
Joffer, can't blame you at all. It seems everyone missed on Tyler Thigpen, including two professional football organizations. How could the QB-starved Minnesota Vikings release this guy when all they had on their roster at the time were Tarvaris Jackson, Brooks Bollinger and Drew Henson? How could the Kansas City Chiefs genuinely believe that Brodie Croyle had more talent than Tyler Thigpen? Maybe Thigpen stinks it up the rest of the way, but right now, it sure looks like Tyler Thigpen is one of 'those' players that needed a real opportunity to showcase what he could do. Whether a guy is bagging groceries, discarded by teams or buried on the depth chart somewhere - sometimes all the scouts, talent evaluation charting and coaches are almost as clueless as us FF folks.Video Highlights of Tyler's Week 3 Performance

 
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I drafted him late in a no-waiver-wire keeper league. I've not played him because I have Cutler and Favre, but if he keeps this up he'll definitely be a keeper for me. First year you keep a guy, you get him at the round you drafted him in, so he'd be a 26th rounder for me next year.

 
As a TG / Bowe and LJ owner ... I welcome Tyler with open arms!
He looked very good. Of course, San Diego D can do that to a QB. What the hell happened to them?
Merriman down, he is that disruptive, makes the other players better. Also Cromartie thought he was in Canton after 1 year, turns out 2007 stats dont help you in 2008. Those would be the 2 major reasons I would cite in "what the hell happend".
 
Got lucky in a start 2 QB league when injuries pushed me to grab Thigpen to start in weeks 9 & 10 to cover bye's for Brees & Campbell. What a very nice surprise!

Now I may have to start playing matchups and include Tyler in the mix on a weekly basis.

:)

 
I'll have my crow a la mode. i think i called the guy "wretched" a few weeks back in some thread around here. he's playing well. still throws a lot of bad passes, but he's showing nice poise in the pocket and arm strength.
Joffer, can't blame you at all. It seems everyone missed on Tyler Thigpen, including two professional football organizations. How could the QB-starved Minnesota Vikings release this guy when all they had on their roster at the time were Tarvaris Jackson, Brooks Bollinger and Drew Henson? How could the Kansas City Chiefs genuinely believe that Brodie Croyle had more talent than Tyler Thigpen? Maybe Thigpen stinks it up the rest of the way, but right now, it sure looks like Tyler Thigpen is one of 'those' players that needed a real opportunity to showcase what he could do. Whether a guy is bagging groceries, discarded by teams or buried on the depth chart somewhere - sometimes all the scouts, talent evaluation charting and coaches are almost as clueless as us FF folks.Video Highlights of Tyler's Week 3 Performance
Minnesota did release him, but had a high opinion of him and were hoping he'd clear waivers so that he could be added to the Practice squad. Can remember reading a few draft profiles which stated he would take time to develop, but Minnesota liked his potential. Just not enough to keep him on the active roster.From the FBG blogger

Minnesota Vikings quarterback Tyler Thigpen said during an interview on Tuesday that the team has told him that he will be allocated to the practice squad before the regular season. "They told me today that [they] are going to put me on the practice roster," Thigpen said. "It could be worse, you could be cut from the team in general...You've got to start somewhere, get your foot in the door."
The Minnesota Vikings were unable to sneak QB Tyler Thigpen through waivers and onto the practice squad. The Kansas City Chiefs were awarded Thigpen's services Sunday morning, according to agent Joel Turner. The Vikings decision to trade for former Philadelphia Eagles QB Kelly Holcomb, and to keep QB Brooks Bollinger as the No. 3, necessitated Thigpen's release.
Probably still too early to see if he is starting quality, but he's made great leaps forward in the last 3 weeks.
 
He's been looking pretty good in the last three weeks, and most importantly has not thrown a single interception. I would say if you dont have a stud QB in your team, Thigpen is a must start next week against a Saints D that is missing several starters including Mike McKenzie and was already terrible against the pass before those injuries

 
i like Mark Bradley.
:thumbup: Also, the Chiefs OL has made major strides in the last few weeks. That coincides with Thigpen playing because he's a good athlete and very mobile, but they've all stepped it up and the Chargers didn't sniff him yesterday. I was arguing with a friend about how Sam Bradford just stands back there for Oklahoma and throws darts, and it was something like that for Thigpen yesterday. The interior OL was great, and LT Branden Albert is starting to look like the stud LT some thought he could be. He was just mauling whoever lined up against him. The weakness is RT Damion McIntosh, but fortunately Thigpen does what Huard and Croyle can't and moves out of the way. And he did what he did yesterday with zero threat of a running game as KC trotted out their fourth-stringer Dantrell Savage. If LJ comes back with an attitude, or Charles gets the start and looks like he did against a much superior defense in Tampa Bay, Thigpen could be really good. One thing I'm concerned about is the discrepancy between first and second half performance. Against the Jets he was like 14/16 for 150+ yards with two scores, and against San Diego yesterday he was like 15/17 for 170+ yards and another two scores. He's not ending games as he's starting them.
 
Who started him this week?
I started him over Roethlisberger and drank the Kool-Aid so heavily I started Bradley over Holt. I enjoyed the hell out of the Chiefs-Chargers game. :popcorn:I posted his remaining schedule in my Thigpen thread. Outside of a matchup against the Raiders, he has an incredibly sweet schedule the rest of the way. He looks legit to me and given how bad their defense is, I can see him throwing a lot even if LJ returns to form. Thigpen looks like he could put up Top 10-15 production from here on out.
 
I recall the Viking FO as saying it was a mistake to try to get Thigpen through waivers after KC signed him. They thought he'd fly under the radar... they liked this kid a lot.

As for why he does poorly in the second half... one word: Herm. This kid prefers the shotgun, but week after week, after playing out of the gun in the first half, Edwards has him go under center in the second half, being conservative. He needs more time to become a drop back QB... but Edwards, the ultimate idiot, gets a lead, and puts players in a position to fail.

How many coaches find something that works, get a lead and abandon the very game plan that worked in the first half? If Edwards doesn't screw this kid up, and he might, he could be a good one. I stashed him on my DTS in 2 leagues... and stupidly dropped him in one of them. After his first start, I thought uh-oh... mistake.

He has played well, and is still a bit raw.... once he gets more playing time, especially under center, his ceiling could be VERY high.

 
I have Big Ben and Orton on a good fantasy team and started Thigpen on a wing and a prayer this week. An unexpected - Wow!Over the last 3 weeks, he's been the hottest quarterback in fantasy football not named Kurt. He has a remaining schedule that is littered with creampuff match-ups. He has legit targets in Gonzo, Bowe and now Bradley - and there is a decent chance that Larry Johnson returns for the stretch run.Who owns this guy?Who started him this week?Can he keep putting up 20+ point efforts?
I hope you lose at the hands of some unknown 3rd string player in a week or two. :lmao: Sorry but I lost twice this week because of him and he throws to Mark Bradley more than Bowe.
 
Deadspin has a wonderful ode to 'Tyler Thigpen' that kinda sums up the vibes on Tyler right now;

• Arrowhead Pride says, "I can't remember the last time the Chiefs got the ball late in the game down in the score and I felt pretty good about our chances to drive 60 yards for a score. I watched Tyler Thigpen yesterday and felt a confidence I hadn't felt in a Chiefs quarterback in a long time. Even though the Chiefs didn't convert the 2-point conversion to win the game (which they wouldn't have had to if we hadn't missed a PAT earlier), they came closer to their second win than the last two weeks."

• MVN, Home of the Chiefs: "It's not just the fact that he's played very well in three consecutive games. It's not just the fact that he's managed to stay healthy, while Croyle and Huard could not. It's not just the fact that he hasn't thrown a pick in three games. It's not just the fact that he's carried this team on his back, even despite the complete absence of a running game, which is a quarterback's best friend and a defense that can protect his leads. It's not just the fact that Thigpen looked like a 15-year veteran as he drove the ball down the field with a minute and a half left during a key touchdown drive."

• Arrowhead Addict: "I will not be talking about QB’s any longer, I feel Tyler Thigpen barring a major melt down is the Chiefs starting quarterback not only the remainder of this season, but the start of next season as well. He didn’t cave under the pressure of the two minute drill with time expiring. No my fellow Chiefs fans, i will focus on the defensive side of the ball."

 
Does he need to keep it up to be the starter next year?

I can't seem them going into week 1 with Croyle as the starter. That's almost a joke now.

I could see them starting Thigpen and drafting a QB. There's a boat load this year.

 
Does he need to keep it up to be the starter next year?I can't seem them going into week 1 with Croyle as the starter. That's almost a joke now.I could see them starting Thigpen and drafting a QB. There's a boat load this year.
Croyle's done. They've already admitted that. Answering the question in a couple months will be easier. But right now I'd say they go with a pass-rusher such as Orakpo with their top-five but not No. 1 overall pick, while adding a QB in the second- or third-round. Obviously, things can change. Thigpen could bomb or get even better; Stafford could be deemed the no-doubt franchise QB rather than an iffy guy with a lot of talent; etc.
 
I still think KC needs to draft or trade for a QB in the offseason. I don't see Thigpen as the answer, but he has played nicely recently.

 
Herm's recent comments on Thigpen:

"When you try to compare him to the three guys he's played against, one guy's (Brett Favre) a Hall of Famer, the other guy, Jeff Garcia, has seen a lot of good football in this league ... the other guy (Philip Rivers) is a high-round pick and he's been playing," said Chiefs coach Herm Edwards.

"This poor kid has four starts, period. He came out of Coastal Carolina. To me, you can't lose sight of that. Does he have an upside? I hope so. I hope he continues to play the way he's playing. No one knows what this guy's going to be. You've got to judge him every week on consistency.

"In the game in Atlanta when we were behind, he didn't get it done. This last week, he did get it done. He went down and scored.

"I'm just saying no one knows what he's going to be. No one knows his upside. But we've got to continue to let him grow. Will he have a setback in the next seven weeks? He might, but that's part of it, too."

No one knows Herm's upside as the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. No one knows if Herm will even be the head coach next year. :lmao: Honestly, this kid shows something that no Chiefs QB has shown for a long time, and this is the best Herm Edwards can offer up ie, 'no one knows'? Gimme a break. Maybe I'm being too hard on Herm here, but I think he could've done better than this.

But I do know this, he's in my starting lineup this week :yes:

 
I recall the Viking FO as saying it was a mistake to try to get Thigpen through waivers after KC signed him. They thought he'd fly under the radar... they liked this kid a lot. As for why he does poorly in the second half... one word: Herm. This kid prefers the shotgun, but week after week, after playing out of the gun in the first half, Edwards has him go under center in the second half, being conservative. He needs more time to become a drop back QB... but Edwards, the ultimate idiot, gets a lead, and puts players in a position to fail. How many coaches find something that works, get a lead and abandon the very game plan that worked in the first half? If Edwards doesn't screw this kid up, and he might, he could be a good one. I stashed him on my DTS in 2 leagues... and stupidly dropped him in one of them. After his first start, I thought uh-oh... mistake. He has played well, and is still a bit raw.... once he gets more playing time, especially under center, his ceiling could be VERY high.
This is what I am afraid of when LJ returns. Herm may try to go back into superconservative mode by lining up and giving the ball to LJ non-stop and get away from putting Thigpen in shotgun and letting him do what he does best. I think he needed to put more on Thigpen's shoulders b/c he had to with LJ out, but now that LJ is coming back I could see him changing back to a more conservative philosophy. We'll see...
 
I recall the Viking FO as saying it was a mistake to try to get Thigpen through waivers after KC signed him. They thought he'd fly under the radar... they liked this kid a lot.

As for why he does poorly in the second half... one word: Herm. This kid prefers the shotgun, but week after week, after playing out of the gun in the first half, Edwards has him go under center in the second half, being conservative. He needs more time to become a drop back QB... but Edwards, the ultimate idiot, gets a lead, and puts players in a position to fail.

How many coaches find something that works, get a lead and abandon the very game plan that worked in the first half? If Edwards doesn't screw this kid up, and he might, he could be a good one. I stashed him on my DTS in 2 leagues... and stupidly dropped him in one of them. After his first start, I thought uh-oh... mistake.

He has played well, and is still a bit raw.... once he gets more playing time, especially under center, his ceiling could be VERY high.
This is what I am afraid of when LJ returns. Herm may try to go back into superconservative mode by lining up and giving the ball to LJ non-stop and get away from putting Thigpen in shotgun and letting him do what he does best. I think he needed to put more on Thigpen's shoulders b/c he had to with LJ out, but now that LJ is coming back I could see him changing back to a more conservative philosophy. We'll see...
Anything is possible, we are talking about Herm Edwards here. But, they already know what Larry Johnson can do, and if you read the quotes above this post from Herm, it's pretty clear that Herm feels 'no one knows' what Tyler Thigpen can do. So logically speaking, given that the team is 1-8, it makes perfect sense to put as much as on Thigpen as possible and see what they really have in this kid. But again, this is Herm Edwards here, so maybe a 35-carry day for LJ is what we should expect next Sunday.
 
IMO, as a longtime KC homer, I am halfway to believing we have our franchise QB. When you keep putting good games together in the NFL, after awhile it becomes hard to knock it as a fluke, or luck.

A lot of credit goes to Chan Gailey for instituting a spread-look in the bye week. He changed his offense to suit his personnel.

I had a debate with my dad if the spread will work long-term in the NFL. It has been my contention that the college QBs in the spread will have to change when they get into the NFL, but maybe it is the NFL that is starting to change to what the colleges are doing.

FWIW, I am listening to Herm's presser, and he said, paraphrasing, that "Larry will have to work within the scheme of what we are doing." That seems to be an indicator that the offense will not revert back.

 
Is dropping either Ryan or Delhomme and picking up Thigpen worth it. All three have good schedules left against the pass. Thinking of dropping Delhomme for him. I wouldn't have said that 3 weeks ago but Thigpen looks really good and has made Bradley a relevant NFL WR in both fantasy and the real sense. But can he both Thigpen and Bradley keep up this pace. The schedule says they can.

 
My first round pick was Brady. We all know what happened there. My backup was Farve and he put up one REALLY good game for me and the rest so so, benched him one week. I ended up trading him (another QB not included but a trade that served both myself and the other guy) and getting Schaub who was available. One good week from Schaub then HE gets injured. Thigpen was available and has been awesome. I am 7-3 by the way, even with Brady down. I also have Welker since I'm in a PPR league.

On a side note, I also picked up Bradley KC-WR for this next week as well.

 
Ace333 said:
My first round pick was Brady. We all know what happened there. My backup was Farve and he put up one REALLY good game for me and the rest so so, benched him one week. I ended up trading him (another QB not included but a trade that served both myself and the other guy) and getting Schaub who was available. One good week from Schaub then HE gets injured. Thigpen was available and has been awesome. I am 7-3 by the way, even with Brady down. I also have Welker since I'm in a PPR league. On a side note, I also picked up Bradley KC-WR for this next week as well.
Are you TRYING to get someone to make a sarcastic comment about keeping us updated on how your team is doing? :goodposting:
 
Ace333 said:
My first round pick was Brady. We all know what happened there. My backup was Farve and he put up one REALLY good game for me and the rest so so, benched him one week. I ended up trading him (another QB not included but a trade that served both myself and the other guy) and getting Schaub who was available. One good week from Schaub then HE gets injured. Thigpen was available and has been awesome. I am 7-3 by the way, even with Brady down. I also have Welker since I'm in a PPR league. On a side note, I also picked up Bradley KC-WR for this next week as well.
Are you TRYING to get someone to make a sarcastic comment about keeping us updated on how your team is doing? ;)
Yeah I love how he goes to "on a side note". The entire post was a side note about the life and times of his fantasy team.
 
Who started him this week?
I started him over Roethlisberger and drank the Kool-Aid so heavily I started Bradley over Holt. I enjoyed the hell out of the Chiefs-Chargers game. ;)I posted his remaining schedule in my Thigpen thread. Outside of a matchup against the Raiders, he has an incredibly sweet schedule the rest of the way. He looks legit to me and given how bad their defense is, I can see him throwing a lot even if LJ returns to form. Thigpen looks like he could put up Top 10-15 production from here on out.
me too, I would rank Bradley over Holt going forward by a fair margin.
 
To you guys think the return of LJ to the lineup helps Thigpen? or does Edwards return to power ball?
Herm is an idiot so who knows, but I'd guess he'll stick with what has been working. LJ will obviously give them a better "threat" of a run and a bit better pass blocking, which should benefit Thigpen.
 
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