U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in Rocket Attack (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

Fast and Benghurious.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Still on this? lol Come on Fox News, time to think of a new scandal. This one is running out of steam.

Has anyone been brought to justice yet, as Obama promised they would be, for killing our ambassador?

No.. why do you ask?

Wouldn't you think that finding who killed our ambassador matters?

And I am someone who thinks the stories matters. It's not a Watergate-like scandal like some on the right think it is, but it's not a non-story like some of the left think it is either.

How has the never ending series of hearings and right wing media stories helped find the people who are responsible for the murders? Do you believe the intent of this is to gain information to find/apprehend/kill the perpetrators?

Huh? So the people on the left in this thread have no issues that we haven't found the perpetrators?

Dont change the question. <_<

Why not? Based on what I have seen in this tread the answer is they don't.

I'm not sure I count myself as "on the left", but at this point.. no. I don't care anymore. I don't think they can be found. This is why "the right" focusing on this tired topic is only going to help the "the left".

Any sane person is going to run so far away from you guys chanting "BENGHAZI BLAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH"... reference birthers, Tea Party, etc.

Any sane person would want the perpetrators to be found and considering they knew that night what groups were behnd it gives reasonable people the belief they can be found.

Any sane person would see that by now that isn't going to happen.

But don't let me stop your obsession, personally I look forward to the kookiness.. the Tea Party, birther, and Palin efforts were some of the best entertainment I've seen over the years.

Yep....it's just damn kookie to want to find the terrorists that killed an Ambassador and 3 others.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Fast and Benghurious.

So you are now acting like Todd Andrews.

 

[Chaka]

Still on this? lol Come on Fox News, time to think of a new scandal. This one is running out of steam.

Has anyone been brought to justice yet, as Obama promised they would be, for killing our ambassador?

No.. why do you ask?

Wouldn't you think that finding who killed our ambassador matters?

And I am someone who thinks the stories matters. It's not a Watergate-like scandal like some on the right think it is, but it's not a non-story like some of the left think it is either.

How has the never ending series of hearings and right wing media stories helped find the people who are responsible for the murders? Do you believe the intent of this is to gain information to find/apprehend/kill the perpetrators?

Huh? So the people on the left in this thread have no issues that we haven't found the perpetrators?

Dont change the question. <_<

Why not? Based on what I have seen in this tread the answer is they don't.

I'm not sure I count myself as "on the left", but at this point.. no. I don't care anymore. I don't think they can be found. This is why "the right" focusing on this tired topic is only going to help the "the left".

Any sane person is going to run so far away from you guys chanting "BENGHAZI BLAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH"... reference birthers, Tea Party, etc.

Any sane person would want the perpetrators to be found and considering they knew that night what groups were behnd it gives reasonable people the belief they can be found.

Do you think America has some magical find and kill the people who attacked us machine? Or that we are not trying to find these people? Good lord, it took us what? nine years and some change to find and kill bin Laden. If you were being intellectually honest and applied the same standard to everyone you would accept that Bush failed at that task for over six years and Obama got him in just over two and apply the appropriate credit/criticism to that fact.

Either way when it takes nine years to find the most wanted man in the world how long do you think it takes to find a group of faceless (for all intents and purposes) individuals who exploited a weak spot in our defenses?

It's like you think we should be de facto impervious to all threats foreign and domestic just by virtue of the fact that we are America. I think many of you should change your citizenship to Fantasyland because that is the only place that can provide you everything you demand from your country.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Still on this? lol Come on Fox News, time to think of a new scandal. This one is running out of steam.

Has anyone been brought to justice yet, as Obama promised they would be, for killing our ambassador?

No.. why do you ask?

Wouldn't you think that finding who killed our ambassador matters?

And I am someone who thinks the stories matters. It's not a Watergate-like scandal like some on the right think it is, but it's not a non-story like some of the left think it is either.

How has the never ending series of hearings and right wing media stories helped find the people who are responsible for the murders? Do you believe the intent of this is to gain information to find/apprehend/kill the perpetrators?

Huh? So the people on the left in this thread have no issues that we haven't found the perpetrators?

Dont change the question. <_<

Why not? Based on what I have seen in this tread the answer is they don't.

I'm not sure I count myself as "on the left", but at this point.. no. I don't care anymore. I don't think they can be found. This is why "the right" focusing on this tired topic is only going to help the "the left".

Any sane person is going to run so far away from you guys chanting "BENGHAZI BLAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH"... reference birthers, Tea Party, etc.

Any sane person would want the perpetrators to be found and considering they knew that night what groups were behnd it gives reasonable people the belief they can be found.

Do you think America has some magical find and kill the people who attacked us machine? Or that we are not trying to find these people? Good lord, it took us what? nine years and some change to find and kill bin Laden. If you were being intellectually honest and applied the same standard to everyone you would accept that Bush failed at that task for over six years and Obama got him in just over two and apply the appropriate credit/criticism to that fact.

Either way when it takes nine years to find the most wanted man in the world how long do you think it takes to find a group of faceless (for all intents and purposes) individuals who exploited a weak spot in our defenses?

It's like you think we should be de facto impervious to all threats foreign and domestic just by virtue of the fact that we are America. I think many of you should change your citizenship to Fantasyland because that is the only place that can provide you everything you demand from your country.

They groups behind the attack were identified that night and they also have video of the attack.

 

[matuski]

Goo go kooky gadget!

 

[Insomniac]

Still on this? lol Come on Fox News, time to think of a new scandal. This one is running out of steam.

Has anyone been brought to justice yet, as Obama promised they would be, for killing our ambassador?

No.. why do you ask?

Wouldn't you think that finding who killed our ambassador matters?

And I am someone who thinks the stories matters. It's not a Watergate-like scandal like some on the right think it is, but it's not a non-story like some of the left think it is either.

How has the never ending series of hearings and right wing media stories helped find the people who are responsible for the murders? Do you believe the intent of this is to gain information to find/apprehend/kill the perpetrators?

Huh? So the people on the left in this thread have no issues that we haven't found the perpetrators?

Dont change the question. <_<

Why not? Based on what I have seen in this tread the answer is they don't.

Of course they don't. They're not concerned about the truth until a Republican is President.

I certainly hope they find the perps and I'd have no problem siccing the drones on them. All they have to do is narrow down the possible suspects to people in Libya who hate the US because of our "decadent western values" or hate the US because of our support of Israel. That must eliminate up to 3% of the population.

It doesn't change the fact that the GOP hysteria on this has contributed absolutely nothing to finding the perps. It has never been the intention of the GOP to do anything to find them. This purpose is to trash the likely 2016 Democratic party nominee.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Still on this? lol Come on Fox News, time to think of a new scandal. This one is running out of steam.

Has anyone been brought to justice yet, as Obama promised they would be, for killing our ambassador?

No.. why do you ask?

Wouldn't you think that finding who killed our ambassador matters?

And I am someone who thinks the stories matters. It's not a Watergate-like scandal like some on the right think it is, but it's not a non-story like some of the left think it is either.

How has the never ending series of hearings and right wing media stories helped find the people who are responsible for the murders? Do you believe the intent of this is to gain information to find/apprehend/kill the perpetrators?

Huh? So the people on the left in this thread have no issues that we haven't found the perpetrators?

Dont change the question. <_<

Why not? Based on what I have seen in this tread the answer is they don't.

Of course they don't. They're not concerned about the truth until a Republican is President.

I certainly hope they find the perps and I'd have no problem siccing the drones on them. All they have to do is narrow down the possible suspects to people in Libya who hate the US because of our "decadent western values" or hate the US because of our support of Israel. That must eliminate up to 3% of the population.It doesn't change the fact that the GOP hysteria on this has contributed absolutely nothing to finding the perps. It has never been the intention of the GOP to do anything to find them. This purpose is to trash the likely 2016 Democratic party nominee.

how do you propose the GOP find them? You guys are ridiculous.

 

[Insomniac]

how do you propose the GOP find them? You guys are ridiculous.

So first you right wingers say these hearings are to help find the perps and bring them to justice. Now you ask how are they supposed to find them. Which is it? Are you trying to do something that will help find them or not? (the answer is clearly "NOT") Your response is just proving my point.

It's very clear that if the "intelligence community" could identify and locate the perps it would be politically beneficial to President Obama to blow them away and go on national TV to brag about killing the bad guys. No way he'd pass that opportunity up. It's much more likely they can't identify the specific people involved.

This is an effective tactic to pump up the far right wing base and generate political contributions.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

how do you propose the GOP find them? You guys are ridiculous.

So first you right wingers say these hearings are to help find the perps and bring them to justice. Now you ask how are they supposed to find them. Which is it? Are you trying to do something that will help find them or not? (the answer is clearly "NOT") Your response is just proving my point. It's very clear that if the "intelligence community" could identify and locate the perps it would be politically beneficial to President Obama to blow them away and go on national TV to brag about killing the bad guys. No way he'd pass that opportunity up. It's much more likely they can't identify the specific people involved.

This is an effective tactic to pump up the far right wing base and generate political contributions.

Show me a link where I ever said anything about the hearings. It's not the responsibility of the GOP to find the terrorists. That's up to the President and his administration. It's very sad that so many of you have no concern about finding the terrorists that did this.

 

[matuski]

how do you propose the GOP find them? You guys are ridiculous.

So first you right wingers say these hearings are to help find the perps and bring them to justice. Now you ask how are they supposed to find them. Which is it? Are you trying to do something that will help find them or not? (the answer is clearly "NOT") Your response is just proving my point. It's very clear that if the "intelligence community" could identify and locate the perps it would be politically beneficial to President Obama to blow them away and go on national TV to brag about killing the bad guys. No way he'd pass that opportunity up. It's much more likely they can't identify the specific people involved.

This is an effective tactic to pump up the far right wing base and generate political contributions.

Show me a link where I ever said anything about the hearings. It's not the responsibility of the GOP to find the terrorists. That's up to the President and his administration. It's very sad that so many of you have no concern about finding the terrorists that did this.

Ookie goin kooky.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

how do you propose the GOP find them? You guys are ridiculous.

So first you right wingers say these hearings are to help find the perps and bring them to justice. Now you ask how are they supposed to find them. Which is it? Are you trying to do something that will help find them or not? (the answer is clearly "NOT") Your response is just proving my point. It's very clear that if the "intelligence community" could identify and locate the perps it would be politically beneficial to President Obama to blow them away and go on national TV to brag about killing the bad guys. No way he'd pass that opportunity up. It's much more likely they can't identify the specific people involved.

This is an effective tactic to pump up the far right wing base and generate political contributions.

Show me a link where I ever said anything about the hearings. It's not the responsibility of the GOP to find the terrorists. That's up to the President and his administration. It's very sad that so many of you have no concern about finding the terrorists that did this.

Ookie goin kooky.

Just stop being such a doosh.

 

[timschochet]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

 

[squistion]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

They got nothing else.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

The hearings have nothing to do with that. Why do you guys gets so defensive when a honest question is asked about finding the terrorists. Obama said he would.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

The hearings have nothing to do with that. Why do you guys gets so defensive when a honest question is asked about finding the terrorists.

Ok, at this point in time we are unable to find them. Now what?

 

[BeaverCleaver]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

The hearings have nothing to do with that. Why do you guys gets so defensive when a honest question is asked about finding the terrorists.

Ok, at this point in time we are unable to find them. Now what?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

The hearings have nothing to do with that. Why do you guys gets so defensive when a honest question is asked about finding the terrorists.

Ok, at this point in time we are unable to find them. Now what?

Laughing time? Okay.

 

[matuski]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

The hearings have nothing to do with that. Why do you guys gets so defensive when a honest question is asked about finding the terrorists.

Ok, at this point in time we are unable to find them. Now what?

Exactly. This is where most people move on.

I was hoping for something a tad more entertaining for the nuts to latch on to, but they are running out of time.

 

[timschochet]

These new House hearings have nothing to do with finding the killers- why do you guys keep bringing it up?

The hearings have nothing to do with that. Why do you guys gets so defensive when a honest question is asked about finding the terrorists. Obama said he would.

Glad you admit it. It was brought up though, in this thread, in terms of the hearings. In terms of actually finding the terrorists and Obama's promise to do so: during the last 5 presidencies, and especially Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama, this country has been subject to dozens of international terrorists attacks like this one in which American officials and/or soldiers were killed- less under Obama than his last 2 predecessors. And every time its happened, the President, whoever it was, dutifully pledged to find and punish those responsible. Sometimes we do, but mostly we don't. Singling out this one most recent instance and complaining that the President hasn't lived up to his promise, when I could cite you do many examples of similar failure in the recent past, strikes me as a purely partisan attack and without much merit. Do you have reason to argue otherwise?

 

[matuski]

how do you propose the GOP find them? You guys are ridiculous.

So first you right wingers say these hearings are to help find the perps and bring them to justice. Now you ask how are they supposed to find them. Which is it? Are you trying to do something that will help find them or not? (the answer is clearly "NOT") Your response is just proving my point. It's very clear that if the "intelligence community" could identify and locate the perps it would be politically beneficial to President Obama to blow them away and go on national TV to brag about killing the bad guys. No way he'd pass that opportunity up. It's much more likely they can't identify the specific people involved.

This is an effective tactic to pump up the far right wing base and generate political contributions.

Show me a link where I ever said anything about the hearings. It's not the responsibility of the GOP to find the terrorists. That's up to the President and his administration. It's very sad that so many of you have no concern about finding the terrorists that did this.

Ookie goin kooky.

Just stop being such a doosh.

That hurts.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Clinton defends the intelligence at the time preceding the attack on the American compound in Benghazi. An anti-Islamic video that had sparked a protest at an embassy in Cairo was proved in “later investigation and reporting,” including by The New York Times, to have been “indeed a factor” in what happened in Benghazi, Clinton writes.

That point is among those that has been debated during hearings into the attacks.

“There were scores of attackers that night, almost certainly with differing motives,” she writes. “It is inaccurate to state that every single one of them was influenced by this hateful video. It is equally inaccurate to state that none of them were. Both assertions defy not only the evidence but logic as well.”

That;'s not what the NYT says. The NYT says that there were some terrorists who were angry about the video - along with all the other stuff they are "angry" about, such as the fact of the USA itself, intellectual freedom, western education, western cultural and economic influence, support for Jewish people in Israel and religious freedom, etc. - not that there were ordinary citizens who were spontaneously protesting a video. Nowhere does the NYT say there was a spontaneous protest about the video. The terms "spontaneous" and "protest" as opposed to "terrorism" are key here. The NYT makes clear that Ansar al-Shariah, a terrorist militia, was the perpetrator.

So you admit there were people involved in the attack who were upset about the video?

If so, then the administration's initial claims were not completely unfounded.

Nobody on any side of this issue has to admit anything.

HC referred to the NYT article, that's what I did. I've actually read it. It doesn't say there was a spontaneous protest over a video, it says it was a planned attack by the terrorist militia group. In 1-2 sentences in one paragraph in a 6 part series it says a Libyan journalist who works for the NYT says that there were some attackers there who referred to the video. That is different from a spontaneous protest about the video being the cause of the deaths and destruction.No one, not the NYT, no one in the administration, no one, is still claiming it was a spontaneous protest.

Good enough for me that the administration wasn't completely lying and there was no cover up.

Hey I've never said 'cover up.' I'm just asking Hillary be competent enough to get it right now.

 

[Chaka]

They groups behind the attack were identified that night and they also have video of the attack.

I am sure these groups keep excellent membership and meeting attendance records.

That was not a strong rebuttal.

 

[squistion]

They groups behind the attack were identified that night and they also have video of the attack.

I am sure these groups keep excellent membership and meeting attendance records.

That was not a strong rebuttal.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

They groups behind the attack were identified that night and they also have video of the attack.

I am sure these groups keep excellent membership and meeting attendance records.That was not a strong rebuttal.

You look like a fool with your rebuttal.

 

[tommyboy]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

 

[Max Power]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

wait one more week

 

[jamny]

yeah, that's great.

In the weeks and months after the attack I kept asking what was being done to find those involved and was criticized for not giving the Administration enough time. Now, years later when nothing has been done, the response is "what can you do at this point?"

Pathetic

 

[poopdawg]

yeah, that's great.

In the weeks and months after the attack I kept asking what was being done to find those involved and was criticized for not giving the Administration enough time. Now, years later when nothing has been done, the response is "what can you do at this point?"

Pathetic

 

[matuski]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

You do?

 

[dozer]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

Who was it? Since you know...

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

Who was it? Since you know...

Abu Khattala and Ansar al-Shariah.

 

[glock]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

And why do you think that is?

 

[Rove!]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

And why do you think that is?

What would any of us serfs know the answer to that? Perhaps a committee could find that out,,,

Thanks

 

[tommyboy]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

And why do you think that is?

i read things

 

[glock]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

And why do you think that is?

i read things

So, the things you read tell you that nothing is being done in response?

Must be so...

 

[tommyboy]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

And why do you think that is?

i read things

So, the things you read tell you that nothing is being done in response?

Must be so...

the only thing that has been done since then is Obama revealed a sealed indictment against Ansar Al Sharia. No arrests or justice has been served

 

[Chaka]

We know who did it. We've done nothing in response

And why do you think that is?

i read things

So, the things you read tell you that nothing is being done in response?

Must be so...

the only thing that has been done since then is Obama revealed a sealed indictment against Ansar Al Sharia. No arrests or justice has been served

Maybe you should send Obama the address to their clubhouse.

 

[matuski]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

See, the problem is that you use "kooky" to describe everything negative against your Dear Leader that it has no more meaning. People just want answers and information and we're not getting them from "the most transparent administration ever" ( - it's actually the worst ever).

 

[Todd Andrews]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

See, the problem is that you use "kooky" to describe everything negative against your Dear Leader that it has no more meaning. People just want answers and information and we're not getting them from "the most transparent administration ever" ( - it's actually the worst ever).

No, no, that isnt true. We use KooKy to describe you. And everyone knows the meaning.

 

[matuski]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

See, the problem is that you use "kooky" to describe everything negative against your Dear Leader that it has no more meaning. People just want answers and information and we're not getting them from "the most transparent administration ever" ( - it's actually the worst ever).

I'm no Obama fan. I'm luke warm on him at best.

Go sell kooky elsewhere.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

See, the problem is that you use "kooky" to describe everything negative against your Dear Leader that it has no more meaning. People just want answers and information and we're not getting them from "the most transparent administration ever" ( - it's actually the worst ever).

No, no, that isnt true. We use KooKy to describe you. And everyone knows the meaning.

Mmmm...I don't think so. I think it's pretty clear that your constant use of the word to describe those who disagree with Obama has backfired on you.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

See, the problem is that you use "kooky" to describe everything negative against your Dear Leader that it has no more meaning. People just want answers and information and we're not getting them from "the most transparent administration ever" ( - it's actually the worst ever).

No, no, that isnt true. We use KooKy to describe you. And everyone knows the meaning.

Mmmm...I don't think so. I think it's pretty clear that your constant use of the word to describe those who disagree with Obama has backfired on you.

KooK says what?

 

[MaxThreshold]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

See, the problem is that you use "kooky" to describe everything negative against your Dear Leader that it has no more meaning. People just want answers and information and we're not getting them from "the most transparent administration ever" ( - it's actually the worst ever).

No, no, that isnt true. We use KooKy to describe you. And everyone knows the meaning.

Mmmm...I don't think so. I think it's pretty clear that your constant use of the word to describe those who disagree with Obama has backfired on you.

KooK says what?

Poor Todd. You try so hard.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

See, the problem is that you use "kooky" to describe everything negative against your Dear Leader that it has no more meaning. People just want answers and information and we're not getting them from "the most transparent administration ever" ( - it's actually the worst ever).

No, no, that isnt true. We use KooKy to describe you. And everyone knows the meaning.

Mmmm...I don't think so. I think it's pretty clear that your constant use of the word to describe those who disagree with Obama has backfired on you.

KooK says what?

Poor Todd. You try so hard.

lol, that is trying hard? You are the dimmest of bulbs.

 

[FlapJacks]

Maybe the nutjobs can drop this and focus on the American we got back from the Taliban because Obama hates America.

Would at least be a fresh kooky instead of this tired kooky.

The nutjobs are the ones who see an American ambassador get killed and just sit there with their collective thumbs up their collective asses and say "oh well, what difference does it make?" And then they just stonewall every inquiry and shout names at people. It's truly a collective insanity.

 

[timschochet]

Actually Matsuki makes a good political point.

Will the Republicans continue to talk about Benghazi or will they focus on the new Taliban story? There's never room for two scandals for the public: one always sucks all the oxygen.

My guess is that they'll quickly drop the Taliban story and go back to Benghazi, because Benghazi involves Hillary Clinton, and she's the future threat, not Obama.

 

[tommyboy]

Theres so many scandals, so hard to pick...

 

[timschochet]

Theres so many scandals, so hard to pick...

Not really. It's not like the Clinton days. Now THOSE were fun days for the scandal-minded: Whitewater, drug running in Mena, Arkansas, the Travel Office, Vince Foster, the FBI Files, the Lincoln Bedroom, Monica-

Who could keep up? Scandal every week!