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UGH...TO concurs that Eagles would be undefeated (1 Viewer)

Jason Wood

Jason Wood

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Someone interviewed TO and I just saw a clip on ESPN News...the reporter (was off camera so I'm not sure who it was) mentioned to T.O. that Michael Irvin said this week that if Brett Favre was the Eagles QB, the team would be undefeated at this point...and then asked T.O. what he thought about that?T.O. said he agreed and went on to say that Favre plays hurt, makes plays, has a way about him...implying of course the McNabb doesn't. :wall: This soap opera has grown sooooooooooooo tired. We made our bed and now we're lying in our own stink. :X

 
Not trying to egg you on with this one Wood...but you guys going to make the playoffs? I don't see it right now.

 
the eagles lack of a running game is the biggest issue right now. because of that weakness (and reid's lack of commitment toward the running game in general) the defense spends way too much time on the field and it wears down eventuallyof course it doesn't help that mcnabb rarely runs the ball any more and his accuracy is still questionable. sure a healthy favre would help more than an injured mcnabb, but TO is just being TO...who cares?just my 2 cents

 
the eagles lack of a running game is the biggest issue right now. because of that weakness (and reid's lack of commitment toward the running game in general) the defense spends way too much time on the field and it wears down eventually

of course it doesn't help that mcnabb rarely runs the ball any more and his accuracy is still questionable. sure a healthy favre would help more than an injured mcnabb, but TO is just being TO...who cares?

just my 2 cents
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:yes: I wish TO would just retire or shut up. I'm sick of his mouth. No matter where he goes, it'll be the same thing.

Imagine if Philly traded him to Atlanta like he wanted. He would never get the ball.

 
Not trying to egg you on with this one Wood...but you guys going to make the playoffs? I don't see it right now.
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<jimmora'svoice> "Playoffs?! Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? Playoffs?! I'm just hoping we can win a game, another game!" </jimmora'svoice> :cry:

 
every time I almost forget what a ##### bag he is and just start respecting him for one of the best WRs in the game, he goes and reminds me of why he's not one of the best WRs in the game because the whole team suffers with him on it. Thanks, TO!

 
the eagles lack of a running game is the biggest issue right now.  because of that weakness (and reid's lack of commitment toward the running game in general) the defense spends way too much time on the field and it wears down eventually

of course it doesn't help that mcnabb rarely runs the ball any more and his accuracy is still questionable.  sure a healthy favre would help more than an injured mcnabb, but TO is just being TO...who cares?

just my 2 cents
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:yes: I wish TO would just retire or shut up. I'm sick of his mouth. No matter where he goes, it'll be the same thing.

Imagine if Philly traded him to Atlanta like he wanted. He would never get the ball.
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I few years with Vick tossing him the ball would probably do wonders for his ego :lmao:
 
We made our bed and now we're lying in our own stink. :X
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And the only way it will get any better is ifthe Eagles are winning

and

Owens is getting the ball a lot

and

Owens is getting more money

 
Hey, what is the problem? All this guy does is catch TDs. So he talks - he backs it up. You people are all just JEALOUS and trying to keep a brother down. I mean really, football is nothing more than a bunch of individuals. This BS about teamwork and having to like each other is overated. TO is so the best WR in the nation and y'all are just JEALOUS.

 
Why do we keep acting shocked when he does these things? Seriously, who's the idiot here-the one who keeps getting what he wants or the ones who keep trying the same thing, expecting different results?

 
I would love to see TO get traded to GB. The new betting line would be how long before Favre knocks TO out?? McNabb has been playing hurt all year! Another senseless TO speech? Favre wont take that crap. One good punch is all it takes to shut TO up. Who will it be to do it? I say McNabb one of these days!

 
The thing is if TO played for Green Bay, he would be saying they could only win if McNabb or somebody else was the QB. I honestly think TO would have thrown Joe Montana under the bus if they had played together in San Fran. This guy is a real piece of work.

 
I dunno about the undefeated thing, but a lot of his comments about Favre in general are true. He does seem to have "it" when it comes to playing through pain and making big plays. Even more so several years ago.

 
Someone interviewed TO and I just saw a clip on ESPN News...the reporter (was off camera so I'm not sure who it was) mentioned to T.O. that Michael Irvin said this week that if Brett Favre was the Eagles QB, the team would be undefeated at this point...and then asked T.O. what he thought about that?

T.O. said he agreed and went on to say that Favre plays hurt, makes plays, has a way about him...implying of course the McNabb doesn't. :wall: This soap opera has grown sooooooooooooo tired. We made our bed and now we're lying in our own stink. :X
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Hi Jason,What's your take on the suddenly cured ankle?

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Hey, what is the problem? All this guy does is catch TDs. So he talks - he backs it up.

You people are all just JEALOUS and trying to keep a brother down. I mean really, football is nothing more than a bunch of individuals. This BS about teamwork and having to like each other is overated.

TO is so the best WR in the nation and y'all are just JEALOUS.
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The guy is crap and will not be an Eagle after this year, good chance may be taking a year off..if he somehow is still on the roster next year the Eagles have to pay him a 6.5 million bonus..pretty sure they'd rather burn the 6.5 then give it to him..maybe a JWalker would make better friends with McNabb..??? :popcorn:
 
Hey, what is the problem?  All this guy does is catch TDs.  So he talks - he backs it up. 

You people are all just JEALOUS and trying to keep a brother down.  I mean really, football is nothing more than a bunch of individuals.  This BS about teamwork and having to like each other is overated.

TO is so the best WR in the nation and y'all are just JEALOUS.
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The guy is crap and will not be an Eagle after this year, good chance may be taking a year off..if he somehow is still on the roster next year the Eagles have to pay him a 6.5 million bonus..pretty sure they'd rather burn the 6.5 then give it to him..maybe a JWalker would make better friends with McNabb..??? :popcorn:
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:thumbup: But how would you take a young WR like Walker away from a rebuilding GB team and give them a 30+ year old WR in return? I just dont think it would work lol.

Would be nice though.

 
Not trying to egg you on with this one Wood...but you guys going to make the playoffs? I don't see it right now.
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<jimmora'svoice> "Playoffs?! Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? Playoffs?! I'm just hoping we can win a game, another game!" </jimmora'svoice>
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:lmao:
 
T.O. is right. ;)
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He is correct. Probably.Favre is a proven winner, and a much better passer than McNabb will ever be. He's made stars out of many WRs, imagine what he'd do with the best WR in the game today.

The only problem would be co-existing with TO.

Why is this news? Slow day in the NFL?

The only thing that would be newsworthy would be if TO were named McNabb Jr's Godfather.

 
I'm surprised he never blamed Steve Young for throwing left-handed for all his drop passes when Owens was with the Niners.Which reminds me, I would like to see him get traded to Detroit and let him get reunited with Mariucci and Garcia...then maybe, he'll be grateful for his tour of duty with the Eagles. At least he got to play in the SuperBowl. In Detroit, the only limelight he'll get is the annual Turkey Day game.

 
Irvin should be ashamed of himself for stirring up this hornet's nest. Unfortunately, he is a ######## just like Owens, so I doubt he feels any remorse.

 
Irvin should be ashamed of himself for stirring up this hornet's nest. Unfortunately, he is a ######## just like Owens, so I doubt he feels any remorse.
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Irvin is a scumbag of a human being, much more so than Owens.
 
Irvin should be ashamed of himself for stirring up this hornet's nest. Unfortunately, he is a ######## just like Owens, so I doubt he feels any remorse.
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Irvin is a scumbag of a human being, much more so than Owens.
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the playmaker has been accountable for his actions where TO isn't, but TO has managed to keep his nose clean <sniff, sniff> and has NEVER been in any trouble that didn't start and end with his inability to keep his trap shutthe pool or the pond i guess :yucky:

 
the eagles lack of a running game is the biggest issue right now.  because of that weakness (and reid's lack of commitment toward the running game in general) the defense spends way too much time on the field and it wears down eventually

of course it doesn't help that mcnabb rarely runs the ball any more and his accuracy is still questionable.  sure a healthy favre would help more than an injured mcnabb, but TO is just being TO...who cares?

just my 2 cents
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:yes: I wish TO would just retire or shut up. I'm sick of his mouth. No matter where he goes, it'll be the same thing.

Imagine if Philly traded him to Atlanta like he wanted. He would never get the ball.
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Nah. The Jets. That's the place for him!
 
Few things here:I really don't understand the outrage...you knew what you were getting...and everyone but Philly fans knew it coming in and said it time and time again...Owens is a cancer...point blank. Sure he's a great athlete, but he has no concept of team...it's only ME. At the end of the day he checks his assessments as follows:Did I win today?Did I look good today?Did everyone see me look good today?Did I get paid a lot today?Did I get more endorsements today?If any of those answers are no...then TO ain't happy and he's bound and determined to get ahead of the finger pointers and make sure everyone knows it's not him.Now...with that being said...IT IS MCNABB. And it IS AREID. Sure TO is imploding the team with his exploits and constantly airing their dirty laundry...but even though everyone wants to deny it or look elsewhere for the reasons for Philly's missteps every year...they can only come to the final conclusions that it's poor QB play (for whatever reason...who cares...it's all about wins and losses in NFL) and playcalling/time-field management.That defense...and more specifically the defensive coach is what keeps that team looking good when the failures of McNabb and AReid rear their ugly heads...and is what makes them look so great when they don't find a way to screw it up.I'm sorry to say it...but Rush was right...I argued it then and will continue to argue it today. McNabb is overrated...he's highly inaccurate and is just not that great of a field general.If you want to argue it...just look how great they were using QB's like the Detmer's of the world when McNabb was out. Want to argue McNabb's accuracy? You can't...sure point to whatever numbers helps your case...but watch the game and you will always see McNabb throwing behind his receivers, over their heads or into the ground...and this was well before his "sports hernia"...this has been over his entire career. Want to argue his field generalship? You can't...I point to that 15 seconds remaining before the half debacle of a few weeks ago...even rookie Qb's would get taken to task for that nonsense.If you ask me...McNabb should be glad he's got TO...because TO will cause so much hate towards himself that people will be slower to realize the problem with them losing falls mostly on McNabb's shoulders.Lastly...it is my opinion...and I know it's not shared here since I've been railed upon over it every year for saying it...but...Philly...much like St. Louis...would be better off with a different head coach.

 
Lastly...it is my opinion...and I know it's not shared here since I've been railed upon over it every year for saying it...but...Philly...much like St. Louis...would be better off with a different head coach.

Dude, Reid is the NFL winningest coach over the last five years. The WINNINGEST.

What are you talking about?

Do you know how hard it is to maintain excellence the way the NFL is structured these days?

Reid won every year by combining a short-pass, ball control offense. This year he's 4-3 with the same offense and suddenly he doesn't know what he's doing.

The Eagles may end up 8-8 this year, for all we know. It doesn't mean Reid has suddenly become a bad coach.

 
Here is my take. I think TO is a TEAM player (yes, I just said it!!). He is taking the pressure off his teammates because they are the most underachieving team in the league (outside of Minneapolis). Instead of talking about their defense that is awful (please stop the Jim Johnson to Vikings rumors), we are talking about the stupid statements of TO. If it weren't for him they would have folded in Denver instead of making the second half run. The guy loves the attention he gets but is doing it to take pressure of his teammates. He wins both ways!

 
Here is my take. I think TO is a TEAM player (yes, I just said it!!). He is taking the pressure off his teammates because they are the most underachieving team in the league (outside of Minneapolis). Instead of talking about their defense that is awful (please stop the Jim Johnson to Vikings rumors), we are talking about the stupid statements of TO. If it weren't for him they would have folded in Denver instead of making the second half run. The guy loves the attention he gets but is doing it to take pressure of his teammates. He wins both ways!
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He's taking pressure off McNabb by throwing him under the bus?
 
Here is my take. I think TO is a TEAM player (yes, I just said it!!). He is taking the pressure off his teammates because they are the most underachieving team in the league (outside of Minneapolis). Instead of talking about their defense that is awful (please stop the Jim Johnson to Vikings rumors), we are talking about the stupid statements of TO. If it weren't for him they would have folded in Denver instead of making the second half run. The guy loves the attention he gets but is doing it to take pressure of his teammates. He wins both ways!
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:loco:
 
Lastly...it is my opinion...and I know it's not shared here since I've been railed upon over it every year for saying it...but...Philly...much like St. Louis...would be better off with a different head coach.
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Dude, Reid is the NFL winningest coach over the last five years. The WINNINGEST.

What are you talking about?

Do you know how hard it is to maintain excellence the way the NFL is structured these days?

Reid won every year by combining a short-pass, ball control offense. This year he's 4-3 with the same offense and suddenly he doesn't know what he's doing.

The Eagles may end up 8-8 this year, for all we know. It doesn't mean Reid has suddenly become a bad coach.

:goodposting:

Four NFC Championship games .................in a row and able to do it with some of their best players lost to FA. :thumbup:

 
the playmaker has been accountable for his actions
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Michael Irvin has been accountable for his actions? Not sure I consider community service accountability for cocaine possession.
 
Someone interviewed TO and I just saw a clip on ESPN News...the reporter (was off camera so I'm not sure who it was) mentioned to T.O. that Michael Irvin said this week that if Brett Favre was the Eagles QB, the team would be undefeated at this point...and then asked T.O. what he thought about that?

T.O. said he agreed and went on to say that Favre plays hurt, makes plays, has a way about him...implying of course the McNabb doesn't. :wall: This soap opera has grown sooooooooooooo tired. We made our bed and now we're lying in our own stink. :X
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TO has wrecked that team, he's a cancer. His talent is unbelievable but you know what's bad about his greatness.........it doesn't elevate other people around him.Players like Joe Montana, John Elway, Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice,.......those players elevated the play of their teammates.

TO is an individual.........and ultimately players on his own team have a hard time playing with a guy like that.

 
Not trying to egg you on with this one Wood...but you guys going to make the playoffs? I don't see it right now.
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I'd worry about your own team.
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At least you don't have to worry about yours.Enjoy competing for the top pick. Every game has meaning when you're trying to avoid 2-14, you know. :thumbup:

 
Owens's "Favre" talk proves two things to me:1. Owens is a team cancer (as if we needed further proof of that)2. He hasn't watched Packer games this year

 
Not trying to egg you on with this one Wood...but you guys going to make the playoffs? I don't see it right now.
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I'd worry about your own team.
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At least you don't have to worry about yours.Enjoy competing for the top pick. Every game has meaning when you're trying to avoid 2-14, you know. :thumbup:
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Man that's clever stuff there. You have amazing wit. How'd that 49ers game go? :lmao: Seriously though, for the amount talent Tampa has, they just can't seem to get an offense on the field. What the hell is Gruden doing down there. Cadillac is great, no question about that, but he couldn't stay healthy in college and then Gruden ran him right into the ground. It's almost like he was trying to show off or something.

The defense surpised me with a goose egg last week. Is Simeon Rice that important? Or was it simply a matter of the 49ers wanting it more?

 
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Interesting.Every last one of you ignored this part of the article:

"If Donovan wasn't hurt our record would probably be better," Owens said Thursday night.
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Clear case of sensationalizing a story for ESPN. TO is a clown, but it doesn't help that every writer wants to break "the story" about TO.
 
Interesting.

Every last one of you ignored this part of the article:

"If Donovan wasn't hurt our record would probably be better," Owens said Thursday night.
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Clear case of sensationalizing a story for ESPN. TO is a clown, but it doesn't help that every writer wants to break "the story" about TO.
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The media sensationalizes? pfft :thumbdown:
 
Interesting.

Every last one of you ignored this part of the article:

"If Donovan wasn't hurt our record would probably be better," Owens said Thursday night.
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Clear case of sensationalizing a story for ESPN. TO is a clown, but it doesn't help that every writer wants to break "the story" about TO.
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:goodposting: This "news" is NOTHING. "Our QB is hurt, we'd be better if he stayed healthy, Favre stays healthy, so we'd win more if we had one of the best QBs to play the game", why is anyone here making anything of this? A bunch of TO haters? Boredom?

In case it isn't obvious by now, TO makes waves because fans and the media love to ride those waves.

 
the playmaker has been accountable for his actions
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Michael Irvin has been accountable for his actions? Not sure I consider community service accountability for cocaine possession.
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Should we kill him?
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Yeah, because that's what we do with all cocaine possession offenders, right? :rolleyes:
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Yes Irvin did have some off field issues and he may same like an ### now as an announcer, but isn't that what sportscaster's do? They stir up controversy to get their names/stories out there. You don't think Irvin asked the right questions? I do, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it. He obviously baited TO and got the story that is going to be running every 5 minutes on ESPN.Anyway, Irvin the player was never a cancer on his team. He, Aikman, and Emmitt never got into the spats that TO has done and they won 3 Super Bowls, so while I agree he has done some stupid stuff off the field, on the field he was a great WR and a good teammate.

 
Interesting.

Every last one of you ignored this part of the article:

"If Donovan wasn't hurt our record would probably be better," Owens said Thursday night.
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Clear case of sensationalizing a story for ESPN. TO is a clown, but it doesn't help that every writer wants to break "the story" about TO.
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Sorry, I don't get why you think that's terribly important. The pertinent part of the interview is comparing the effectiveness of an injured McNabb vs. an injured Favre, and he says they'd be undefeated with an injured Favre. What does that have to do with how they'd fare with a healthy McNabb? Irvin, an ESPN analyst, had said that the Eagles would be better off with Green Bay's Brett Favre at quarterback, and in some respects, Owens agreed.

"He's a guy, obviously, a number of commentators will say he's a warrior, he plays with injuries," Owens said of Favre. "I just feel like [with] him being knowledgable about the quarterback position, I just feel like we'd probably be in a better situation."

Owens also was asked about how Donovan McNabb's injuries have affected the Eagles' performance this season.

"Our wins and losses are really predicated on how he plays," he said of McNabb.

"Everybody can point fingers at our defense, but it doesn't matter. Even when we were 28 [points] down [against Denver], I still had in the back of my mind that we could come back had our offense gotten in sync.

"I honestly feel with playmakers like myself, L.J. [smith], and obviously Brian Westbrook, that we could've gotten back in the game, and that we did.

"It's hard to win ball games when you have turnovers, and we had a turnover right when we were about to go in to probably tie the game. That killed our momentum and killed our drive."

Owens was referring to an interception thrown in the end zone by McNabb when the Eagles had cut the Broncos' lead to 28-21.

I agree that the media, ESPN moreso that most, sensationalize... but there's simply nothing to sensationalize about T.O.'s quotes. They speak for themselves.

 
the eagles lack of a running game is the biggest issue right now. because of that weakness (and reid's lack of commitment toward the running game in general) the defense spends way too much time on the field and it wears down eventually

of course it doesn't help that mcnabb rarely runs the ball any more and his accuracy is still questionable. sure a healthy favre would help more than an injured mcnabb, but TO is just being TO...who cares?

just my 2 cents
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That can't be true because Brian Westbrook is a top 5 NFL rb according to everyone on this board. :lmao:
 
Yes Irvin did have some off field issues and he may same like an ### now as an announcer, but isn't that what sportscaster's do? They stir up controversy to get their names/stories out there. You don't think Irvin asked the right questions? I do, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it. He obviously baited TO and got the story that is going to be running every 5 minutes on ESPN.

Anyway, Irvin the player was never a cancer on his team. He, Aikman, and Emmitt never got into the spats that TO has done and they won 3 Super Bowls, so while I agree he has done some stupid stuff off the field, on the field he was a great WR and a good teammate.
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I'm not sure why you are responding to me. I just said Irvin hasn't historically been 'accountable.' I never questioned his methods of creating news.
 
Sorry, I don't get why you think that's terribly important. The pertinent part of the interview is comparing the effectiveness of an injured McNabb vs. an injured Favre, and he says they'd be undefeated with an injured Favre. What does that have to do with how they'd fare with a healthy McNabb?

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I agree that the media, ESPN moreso that most, sensationalize... but there's simply nothing to sensationalize about T.O.'s quotes. They speak for themselves.
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He says the team would be better with McNabb healthy.He's then prompted to respond to Irvin's "undefeated with Favre" comment: baiting at its best.

TO's always been honest, and he doesn't know when to hold his tongue. So he agreed with the comment -- which I think a lot of people would agree with.

This is nothing like his comments over the spring throwing McNabb under a bus.

Should he have said it? No.

Is it an outrageous thing that he did? Probably not.

 
Sorry, I don't get why you think that's terribly important. The pertinent part of the interview is comparing the effectiveness of an injured McNabb vs. an injured Favre, and he says they'd be undefeated with an injured Favre. What does that have to do with how they'd fare with a healthy McNabb?

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I agree that the media, ESPN moreso that most, sensationalize... but there's simply nothing to sensationalize about T.O.'s quotes. They speak for themselves.
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He says the team would be better with McNabb healthy.He's then prompted to respond to Irvin's "undefeated with Favre" comment: baiting at its best.

TO's always been honest, and he doesn't know when to hold his tongue. So he agreed with the comment -- which I think a lot of people would agree with.

This is nothing like his comments over the spring throwing McNabb under a bus.

Should he have said it? No.

Is it an outrageous thing that he did? Probably not.
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Did you even read the excerpt I posted? The team would benefit from 'knowledge' at the QB position. Wins and losses are predicated on McNabb, not the rest of the team. This team had Denver where they wanted them until an interception thrown by McNabb. I mean, what exactly is your threshold for "throwing McNabb under the bus" if that doesn't qualify?
 
the eagles lack of a running game is the biggest issue right now. because of that weakness (and reid's lack of commitment toward the running game in general) the defense spends way too much time on the field and it wears down eventually

of course it doesn't help that mcnabb rarely runs the ball any more and his accuracy is still questionable. sure a healthy favre would help more than an injured mcnabb, but TO is just being TO...who cares?

just my 2 cents
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That can't be true because Brian Westbrook is a top 5 NFL rb according to everyone on this board. :lmao:
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Everyone? :rolleyes: Westbrook gets his FF value as a receiver, so even if Westbrook is a top 5 RB, that doesn't mean the running game is doing anything.

 
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