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Unbelievable Video, Is This Fred Taylor When He Was Young? (1 Viewer)

Fred Taylor has had a very nice career. It's too bad he had to battle through injuries or there would no doubt in my mind he would be Canton-bound.

 
JPeso said:
Fred Taylor has had a very nice career. It's too bad he had to battle through injuries or there would no doubt in my mind he would be Canton-bound.
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agree with this. people forget his was a monster when he was younger.
 
In terms of pure talent Fred should be in any discussion about the best RB of the past 12 years, or so. Even in his prime he was underrated.

 
My experience doesnt take me back to the days of Jim Brown, OJ, or Gayle Sayers. But as far as Im concerned, Fred Taylor is as good as any player who's every touched a football. As a complete back, Im not sure anyone's really been any better. He had it all. Speed, power, size, hands, moves, effort and heart. Just no measuring the guy's talent. Injuries just limited his production. But Id put him on a very short list of the best backs Ive ever had the pleasure of watching. And I dont think he's quite done. He's still proven to be a valuable, team oriented guy. Jacksonville's Oline last year was decimated. Not a true reflection of what Taylor still has left in the tank, imo.

 
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My recommendation:

If you're gonna watch Fred do it in real time. Slow motion does not do him justice. Of all the active runners today he is #1 on my list for guys I would pay to see run. I really do wish I would have been able to see him in person. Guy was/is amazing.

 
twitch said:
My experience doesnt take me back to the days of Jim Brown, OJ, or Gayle Sayers. But as far as Im concerned, Fred Taylor is as good as any player who's every touched a football. As a complete back, Im not sure anyone's really been any better. He had it all. Speed, power, size, hands, moves, effort and heart. Just no measuring the guy's talent. Injuries just limited his production. But Id put him on a very short list of the best backs Ive ever had the pleasure of watching.
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twitch said:
My experience doesnt take me back to the days of Jim Brown, OJ, or Gayle Sayers. But as far as Im concerned, Fred Taylor is as good as any player who's every touched a football. As a complete back, Im not sure anyone's really been any better. He had it all. Speed, power, size, hands, moves, effort and heart. Just no measuring the guy's talent. Injuries just limited his production. But Id put him on a very short list of the best backs Ive ever had the pleasure of watching. And I dont think he's quite done. He's still proven to be a valuable, team oriented guy. Jacksonville's Oline last year was decimated. Not a true reflection of what Taylor still has left in the tank, imo.
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:unsure: Freddy T was nasty....I remember back when he was in his prime, when asked other RB's were asked who they thought was the most complete RB in the game, they almost always said Fred Taylor. Haters on this board will always bring up his injuries, but he was a special talent.
 
Taylor came into the league when TD, Faulk, Hearst and Anderson had huge seasons and Barry and Emmitt were still around.The next season, James Stewart matched him in production. In '00, his biggest year, he was awesome, but still had to contend with Faulk's historic season and Edge having another monster year in the AFC. Eddie George, Robert Smith and Mike Anderson also had big seasons that year. His only other huge season was '03, but that's when a ton of backs -- LT, Holmes, Jamal Lewis, Ahman Green, Clinton Portis, McAlister, Alexander, Stephen Davis and Edge all had big seasons.

Taylor was great, but he never got to steal the limelight because he played in an era with lots of star RBs. He also only hit the 300 carry mark once, and was never a standout great receiving back. He had a nose for the end zone and he always had a great YPC, but he lost a bit of his luster after all those early injuries, especially following that groin tear injury in '01.

He definitely should be remembered as the electrifying player from '98-'00 and not the plodding RB from '08. If you could find video of his 90 yard TD against Miami in the playoffs, it'd be worth seeing.

 
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I remember Fred from the early years as I drafted him as a rookie in a dynasty league. He was so dangerous because he was such a powerful RB that then could turn on the speed after breaking through the line. I think he was similar to Larry Johnson when Larry finally got a chance to break out. Both fit that term of a beast. Tough to bring down and if they broke loose, look out. When Fred was released this week and they said he had only made 1 pro bowl it seemed almost unbelievable that he made it to the pro bowl only once.

 
Chase Stuart said:
Taylor came into the league when TD, Faulk, Hearst and Anderson had huge seasons and Barry and Emmitt were still around.The next season, James Stewart matched him in production. In '00, his biggest year, he was awesome, but still had to contend with Faulk's historic season and Edge having another monster year in the AFC. Eddie George, Robert Smith and Mike Anderson also had big seasons that year. His only other huge season was '03, but that's when a ton of backs -- LT, Holmes, Jamal Lewis, Ahman Green, Clinton Portis, McAlister, Alexander, Stephen Davis and Edge all had big seasons.

Taylor was great, but he never got to steal the limelight because he played in an era with lots of star RBs. He also only hit the 300 carry mark once, and was never a standout great receiving back. He had a nose for the end zone and he always had a great YPC, but he lost a bit of his luster after all those early injuries, especially following that groin tear injury in '01.

He definitely should be remembered as the electrifying player from '98-'00 and not the plodding RB from '08. If you could find video of his 90 yard TD against Miami in the playoffs, it'd be worth seeing.
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Around the 1:34 mark
 
There was a period in the NFL where many NFL defensive players were asked "Who is the most difficult RB to tackle" to which they would answer: Fred Taylor

 
KellysHeroes said:
surprised he didn't have a fumbling problem... the ball just seems like its out there to be knocked out.
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It's hard to knock the ball out when defenders are grabbing only air.I agree w/ Twitch except for the heart. Fred has admitted that at times, early in his career, he sat out when he was nicked up, but not too hurt to play. Pure running, though, he was as good as any rb I have seen.
 
twitch said:
My experience doesnt take me back to the days of Jim Brown, OJ, or Gayle Sayers. But as far as Im concerned, Fred Taylor is as good as any player who's every touched a football. As a complete back, Im not sure anyone's really been any better. He had it all. Speed, power, size, hands, moves, effort and heart. Just no measuring the guy's talent. Injuries just limited his production. But Id put him on a very short list of the best backs Ive ever had the pleasure of watching. And I dont think he's quite done. He's still proven to be a valuable, team oriented guy. Jacksonville's Oline last year was decimated. Not a true reflection of what Taylor still has left in the tank, imo.
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I drafted him as a rookie after someone else had already taken James Stewart in a redraft league. I also grabbed Randy Moss late in that same draft. Those two guys practically carried me all year long.

 
All hail the stutter-step king. I've never seen a 6-1, 230 pound rb do more stutter stepping in my life. That was his natural running style and probably why we've seen Jax roll out MJD on the goal line the last 3 years.

 
I had him his rookie year and he had home run speed. He always seemed to break the long TD runs.

Unfortunately his running style wasn't as great in the red zone, maybe due to the juking back and forth all of the time.

 
twitch said:
My experience doesnt take me back to the days of Jim Brown, OJ, or Gayle Sayers. But as far as Im concerned, Fred Taylor is as good as any player who's every touched a football. As a complete back, Im not sure anyone's really been any better. He had it all. Speed, power, size, hands, moves, effort and heart. Just no measuring the guy's talent. Injuries just limited his production. But Id put him on a very short list of the best backs Ive ever had the pleasure of watching. And I dont think he's quite done. He's still proven to be a valuable, team oriented guy. Jacksonville's Oline last year was decimated. Not a true reflection of what Taylor still has left in the tank, imo.
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;) I think he's got another year left. JMO He's got more left at 33(?) than the majority have at 29-30.His ability to stop on a dime, juke and change directions is as good as I've ever seen
 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
twitch said:
My experience doesnt take me back to the days of Jim Brown, OJ, or Gayle Sayers. But as far as Im concerned, Fred Taylor is as good as any player who's every touched a football. As a complete back, Im not sure anyone's really been any better. He had it all. Speed, power, size, hands, moves, effort and heart. Just no measuring the guy's talent. Injuries just limited his production. But Id put him on a very short list of the best backs Ive ever had the pleasure of watching. And I dont think he's quite done. He's still proven to be a valuable, team oriented guy. Jacksonville's Oline last year was decimated. Not a true reflection of what Taylor still has left in the tank, imo.
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:bow: I think he's got another year left. JMO He's got more left at 33(?) than the majority have at 29-30.His ability to stop on a dime, juke and change directions is as good as I've ever seen
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New England would be a great fit
 
omahabrad said:
Craig_MiamiFL said:
twitch said:
My experience doesnt take me back to the days of Jim Brown, OJ, or Gayle Sayers. But as far as Im concerned, Fred Taylor is as good as any player who's every touched a football. As a complete back, Im not sure anyone's really been any better. He had it all. Speed, power, size, hands, moves, effort and heart. Just no measuring the guy's talent. Injuries just limited his production. But Id put him on a very short list of the best backs Ive ever had the pleasure of watching. And I dont think he's quite done. He's still proven to be a valuable, team oriented guy. Jacksonville's Oline last year was decimated. Not a true reflection of what Taylor still has left in the tank, imo.
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:coffee: I think he's got another year left. JMO He's got more left at 33(?) than the majority have at 29-30.His ability to stop on a dime, juke and change directions is as good as I've ever seen
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New England would be a great fit
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Why? They already have a RB that has been labelled injury prone who jukes too much and doesn't hit the hole hard enough.
 
I remember around 2000 or 2001 when Fred had a 4TD game against those Steelers for my team. I have had a man crush on him ever since. I also love that he's a gator.

 
the UFFRM said:
I remember around 2000 or 2001 when Fred had a 4TD game against those Steelers for my team. I have had a man crush on him ever since. I also love that he's a gator.
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I was happy to see him, and the team leave the AFC North/Central.
 
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Chase Stuart said:
Taylor came into the league when TD, Faulk, Hearst and Anderson had huge seasons and Barry and Emmitt were still around.The next season, James Stewart matched him in production. In '00, his biggest year, he was awesome, but still had to contend with Faulk's historic season and Edge having another monster year in the AFC. Eddie George, Robert Smith and Mike Anderson also had big seasons that year. His only other huge season was '03, but that's when a ton of backs -- LT, Holmes, Jamal Lewis, Ahman Green, Clinton Portis, McAlister, Alexander, Stephen Davis and Edge all had big seasons.

Taylor was great, but he never got to steal the limelight because he played in an era with lots of star RBs. He also only hit the 300 carry mark once, and was never a standout great receiving back. He had a nose for the end zone and he always had a great YPC, but he lost a bit of his luster after all those early injuries, especially following that groin tear injury in '01.

He definitely should be remembered as the electrifying player from '98-'00 and not the plodding RB from '08. If you could find video of his 90 yard TD against Miami in the playoffs, it'd be worth seeing.
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Here's some good footage at the 3:27 mark.Link

 
during Fred's rookie year Barry Sanders called Fred the most physically gifted RB he's ever seen. Fred is still the prototype Body for today's RB's, its nearly impossible to find someone his size that can move/cut/explode like he could. Fred still has something left in the tank and will make some team very happy. Playoff teams that need a committee member or a strong #2 have to be salivating

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
In terms of pure talent Fred should be in any discussion about the best RB of the past 12 years, or so. Even in his prime he was underrated.
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I completely agree with this. I believe it was Jim Brown that called Taylor the best back of all time, all factors being even. (Team, offensive line, HEALTH.) He said Taylor just was just such a natural at the position. I hope he still gets Canton consideration
 
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Jon_Moore said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
In terms of pure talent Fred should be in any discussion about the best RB of the past 12 years, or so. Even in his prime he was underrated.
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I completely agree with this. I believe it was Jim Brown that called Taylor the best back of all time, all factors being even. (Team, offensive line, HEALTH.) He said Taylor just was just such a natural at the position. I hope he still gets Canton consideration
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Troof
 
Ever heard of Bo Jackson or Gale Sayers?......as talented as Fred Taylor was, these guys were even more talented, IMO......and I love Fred Taylor's abilities as a RB.....and so do great RBs like Jim Brown, who gushes over Taylor's abilities

But my all-time RB talents would be, in order.....and this doesn't mean the best NFL RBs ever in terms of production as for various reasons production may not happen due to misfortune or other reasons...Anyway, here goes my list

1. Bo Jackson - IMO, the best pure athlete EVER, regardless of sport or era....greater than Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens, Ali, Michael Jordan, Chamberlain, or whomever u want to list as an all-around super-freak athlete. Deion Sanders was a joke of a so-called 2-sport star, Bo was a Superstar in both baseball and football...on the football field, his unparalleled combination of speed/power was breathtaking. Add-in his great cutback ability and balance as well and you had a new and improved version of Jim Brown......just unfortunate (for fans and himself) that he didn't have Jim Brown's durability

2. Gale Sayers - The most electric open-field runner I've ever seen (only on film). Sayers would make guys like Chris Johnson look mediocre if he played today. The greatest combination of instincts, physical ability, will, and football IQ of any of the great RBs (along with Jim Brown).....too short of a career but made one of the most lasting impressions

3. Barry Sanders - The most elusive runner EVER, without question. Barry could escape out of a phone booth with two tacklers inside of it right alongside of him. A career 5ypc guy, amazing!!!!! If only he played for a better organization than the perpetually awful Detroit Lions, who couldn't even win big with a talent such as Barry....

4. Jim Brown - The best RB of all-time considering production, durability, and flat-out ability.......far superior in physical talent than Walter Payton and Emmitt Smith, guys whom I am certainly not knocking but just sticking with pure physical ability for this posting.....A mack truck in cleats, Brown was a huge RB for his era who would be comparable to a 270 lb RB by today's standards.....but imagine a 270 lb guy with great vision, power, determination, and speed (sorry, neither B.Jacobs nor C.Okoye fit the description)

5. Eric Dickerson - One of, if not the, smoothest runners to ever play. Ate up chunks of yardage so quickly in an (apparent) effortless manner that defenders just couldn't believe how fast this guy got up on them.....a true workhorse, downhill runner who would threaten to top 2500 yds rushing in a season in one of these zone-blocking schemes employed today. Glided through holes upright yet nobody could seem to corral him or get a big hit on him.....the subtle cuts that he made were a thing of precision and beauty.....Ran like a Clydesdale

All subjective opinions here, of course, and several others could be mentioned like O.J., LT, ADP, and even Freddy T.......And too bad we didn't get to see Ernie Davis ("The Express") in the pros......

 
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Remember trading for him on the cheap when he sprained his knee in training camp. IIRC he came back and ran off ten 100-yard games in a row. Then ended the season with a monster game in fantasy super bowl.

 
JPeso said:
Fred Taylor has had a very nice career. It's too bad he had to battle through injuries or there would no doubt in my mind he would be Canton-bound.
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IMO he should still be canton bound. People always alk about his injuries, but the last several years he has been healthy. I for one am hoping the Broncos sign him.
 
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