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Ebaker5

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Trying to trade with some owners in one of my leagues but neither one is responsive. Have sent emails and texts about trades and nothing. One trade simply expired with no response so I resent. Any of you have ways of dealing with this? I'm simply looking for a Yes/No from the owners lol.

 
I HATE that. I'm in a local league where like half the guys just ignore all attempts at communication. Especially in these days where everyone walks around with smart phones full of multiple ways to communicate (league message boards, email, text, Facebook, etc...); there is no excuse other than just being rude.

 
I so agree. And when I try to get some answers and more responsibility, people are like: "You're not the LM so chill." GAH!

 
Trying to trade with some owners in one of my leagues but neither one is responsive. Have sent emails and texts about trades and nothing. One trade simply expired with no response so I resent. Any of you have ways of dealing with this? I'm simply looking for a Yes/No from the owners lol.
Hint -- it's probably not a Yes

 
Yup, I get this as well. Don't get when posting a 2 or 3 letter word became so difficult and time consuming. People just don't care for manners or good communication anymore.

 
So what should they do if the answer is the following?

"I'm not sure. I have a job that I work at during the week and can't focus every second on fantasy football. I'd like to look on the Internet to see if there is something I am missing (like T Rich being traded) and then evaluate how the change impacts my team before making a decision. If you can't wait for me and need to make a move elsewhere I understand. Feel free to withdraw the trade offer and approach someone else. Bear in mind that most people in the league don't do a lot of trading so approaching someone else may be just as difficult as waiting for me. Also consider that your offer was not so tempting that I feel like i must jump on it or miss a season changing opportunity."

That is a lot to type in a text message. :)

It is still annoying but hardly worth league rules dictating responsiveness and such measures.

 
Not asking for rule changes or anything of that nature. I too work a full time job, days and nights (12 hour swing shifts). Yet I am able to be contacted at all times and will more than likely get back to you within 30 mins of attempted contact. I just think a simple reject or accept is not to much to ask. One of the Owners i am trying to trade with is the son of the Commish. I told the commish that his son had a trade offer, as well as emailing the owner. I unlike the owner am in the SAME division as the Commish, maybe he told him to ignore it in fear of strengthening my already strong team, who knows.

But i will say i am trying to acquire Trich in this league also and yes I was/am trying to take advantage of a possible mental lapse of the owner. In hopes he did not see the trade done and would quickly swipe up my offer. That's part of the game though and feel no guilt in playing the system lol.

 
So what should they do if the answer is the following?

"I'm not sure. I have a job that I work at during the week and can't focus every second on fantasy football. I'd like to look on the Internet to see if there is something I am missing (like T Rich being traded) and then evaluate how the change impacts my team before making a decision. If you can't wait for me and need to make a move elsewhere I understand. Feel free to withdraw the trade offer and approach someone else. Bear in mind that most people in the league don't do a lot of trading so approaching someone else may be just as difficult as waiting for me. Also consider that your offer was not so tempting that I feel like i must jump on it or miss a season changing opportunity."

That is a lot to type in a text message. :)

It is still annoying but hardly worth league rules dictating responsiveness and such measures.
A simple, "I'll get back to you" would do.

 
MIMN said:
So what should they do if the answer is the following?

"I'm not sure. I have a job that I work at during the week and can't focus every second on fantasy football. I'd like to look on the Internet to see if there is something I am missing (like T Rich being traded) and then evaluate how the change impacts my team before making a decision. If you can't wait for me and need to make a move elsewhere I understand. Feel free to withdraw the trade offer and approach someone else. Bear in mind that most people in the league don't do a lot of trading so approaching someone else may be just as difficult as waiting for me. Also consider that your offer was not so tempting that I feel like i must jump on it or miss a season changing opportunity."

That is a lot to type in a text message. :)

It is still annoying but hardly worth league rules dictating responsiveness and such measures.
Easy. "Let me think about it and get back to you."

 
If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.

 
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If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.
The messages were sent a day after the original trade was proposed. If you cant check you league page 1-2x a day then really what are you playing for? Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the fun of FF but if you pay $50 to play a game the least you can do is be active and attentive 1-2x a day. Success in a league is judged (league as a whole) by communication between owners. If I can't make some kind of contact with you or you simply don't respond to contact why should the league want you around? In my Yahoo league we have a group text that we all monitor and usually deals are typically taken care of and done within 10-12 hours. The ESPN league is hit and miss, partly because a lot of the guys are afraid to trade but mostly because guys only get on on Sundays and Monday to adjust teams and then just leave them be until next week.

 
I can't comprehend why this bothers people.

The other person saw the offer. If their answer was yes, it would've been accepted. What do these one word or one line responses do for you? Nothing.

Not sending you a response does not entail they are inactive or inattentive. It's not all about you. For all you know they check their team page every five minutes.

Telling the commish someone has an unanswered trade offer is going way overboard IMO.

Your sole goal with trading should be to improve your team. Haranguing people about this or telling the commish doesn't serve that goal and probably undermines it long term.

 
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If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.
I don't mind a single text telling me that he proposed a trade. Sometimes, I won't check the league website if I already have my lineup in and I'm not interested in picking up any free agents. But if they continue texting me, then I'll tell them to chill out.

 
I can't comprehend why this bothers people.

The other person saw the offer. If their answer was yes, it would've been accepted. What do this one word or one line responses do for you? Nothing.

Not sending you a response does not entail they are inactive or inattentive. It's not all about you. For all you know they check their team page every five minutes.
Being courteous is why. If you check it every five minutes then why cant you simply hit reject trade? It's sitting right there for you to use, it's not like you have to go through a strenuous process to do it.

 
If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.
I don't mind a single text telling me that he proposed a trade. Sometimes, I won't check the league website if I already have my lineup in and I'm not interested in picking up any free agents. But if they continue texting me, then I'll tell them to chill out.
Agreed, simple text saying "Hey, dunno if you have been on lately. When you get a chance I have sent you a trade. Would you mind checking it out and getting back to me" or an email with the same message. Bombardment is not what i did. Each owner was sent a single message following a day of no response to the trade.

 
a trade proposal is not essentially different than a flyer left in my mailbox or a salesman's phone message.

I can't comprehend why this bothers people.

The other person saw the offer. If their answer was yes, it would've been accepted. What do this one word or one line responses do for you? Nothing.

Not sending you a response does not entail they are inactive or inattentive. It's not all about you. For all you know they check their team page every five minutes.
Being courteous is why. If you check it every five minutes then why cant you simply hit reject trade? It's sitting right there for you to use, it's not like you have to go through a strenuous process to do it.
"Why cant you simply hit reject trade"? Well, the obvious answer is that they haven't decided. So then what, courtesy dictates sending a meaningless message? Why?

The NFL lets offers to players sit for weeks. They probably let standing trade offers sit. Some players want to think your offer over and let it sit. I don't see how every time someone sends a trade offer this creates an obligation for the recipient to send a courteous note. I probably sent 100 trade offers last year, I don't need 100 courteous notes and my competitors aren't obligated to write them.

 
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If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.
I don't mind a single text telling me that he proposed a trade. Sometimes, I won't check the league website if I already have my lineup in and I'm not interested in picking up any free agents. But if they continue texting me, then I'll tell them to chill out.
Agreed, simple text saying "Hey, dunno if you have been on lately. When you get a chance I have sent you a trade. Would you mind checking it out and getting back to me" or an email with the same message. Bombardment is not what i did. Each owner was sent a single message following a day of no response to the trade.
I get trade offer notifications to my email, which generally makes my pocket vibrate, so anything besides that is overkill. I guess I just feel that if the other guy hasn't responded, he hasn't decided. Never really bothers me.
 
I can't comprehend why this bothers people.

The other person saw the offer. If their answer was yes, it would've been accepted. What do this one word or one line responses do for you? Nothing.

Not sending you a response does not entail they are inactive or inattentive. It's not all about you. For all you know they check their team page every five minutes.
Being courteous is why. If you check it every five minutes then why cant you simply hit reject trade? It's sitting right there for you to use, it's not like you have to go through a strenuous process to do it.
But didn't you admit you were trying to take advantage of a guy who might not have enough time to keep up with intra-day NFL transactions as readily as you are? You were basically trying to pull one over on someone and then are upset that he was "rude" by not responding to you in a more courteous manner.

 
Ebaker5 said:
But i will say i am trying to acquire Trich in this league also and yes I was/am trying to take advantage of a possible mental lapse of the owner. In hopes he did not see the trade done and would quickly swipe up my offer. That's part of the game though and feel no guilt in playing the system lol.
LOL.

 
The courteous comment was more or less general answer. Yes i was/am trying to pull one over, and would not have felt bad one bit if he had accepted immediately. Why? Because i have things set to my electronic devices to make me aware of such situations. I am not responsible for each owners knowledge of their players, only mine and the ones I wish to acquire. Ya'll act like ya'll have never tried such a move. It's part of the game, if you are an irresponsible owner and don't keep track of your players and grab the bait I have dangled in front of you, not my problem.

 
Next step show up as door in the middlle of the night demanding answers!!!

I try to respond in a timely manner one way or another. everyone should read Matts article from this week. Good stuff in there about working trades

 
I can't comprehend why this bothers people.

The other person saw the offer. If their answer was yes, it would've been accepted. What do this one word or one line responses do for you? Nothing.

Not sending you a response does not entail they are inactive or inattentive. It's not all about you. For all you know they check their team page every five minutes.
Being courteous is why. If you check it every five minutes then why cant you simply hit reject trade? It's sitting right there for you to use, it's not like you have to go through a strenuous process to do it.
But didn't you admit you were trying to take advantage of a guy who might not have enough time to keep up with intra-day NFL transactions as readily as you are? You were basically trying to pull one over on someone and then are upset that he was "rude" by not responding to you in a more courteous manner.
good posting..

ebaker you tricky guy you.

 
They paid their money to run their team how they want too, deal with it.

I am not one of those owners, and I do think it is rude. It doesn't take long to at least just hit decline on the offer or respond to the text or email with an "I am not interested", but their are jerks in this world that feel like you are wasting their time or they are doing you a favor by being in your league and unless you are willing to give me the world I will just let the trade expire. It sucks but like I said deal with it and move on.

 
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The courteous comment was more or less general answer. Yes i was/am trying to pull one over, and would not have felt bad one bit if he had accepted immediately. Why? Because i have things set to my electronic devices to make me aware of such situations. I am not responsible for each owners knowledge of their players, only mine and the ones I wish to acquire. Ya'll act like ya'll have never tried such a move. It's part of the game, if you are an irresponsible owner and don't keep track of your players and grab the bait I have dangled in front of you, not my problem.
Yeah I'm with ya but you can't really complain about a lack of response to your attempt to "pull one over" on a guy. It's not like you sent him a legitimate trade and he was just ignoring it. Hell, he very well could have known about the Indy/CLE deal and didn't respond b/c he was on to you.

 
The courteous comment was more or less general answer. Yes i was/am trying to pull one over, and would not have felt bad one bit if he had accepted immediately. Why? Because i have things set to my electronic devices to make me aware of such situations. I am not responsible for each owners knowledge of their players, only mine and the ones I wish to acquire. Ya'll act like ya'll have never tried such a move. It's part of the game, if you are an irresponsible owner and don't keep track of your players and grab the bait I have dangled in front of you, not my problem.
Yeah I'm with ya but you can't really complain about a lack of response to your attempt to "pull one over" on a guy. It's not like you sent him a legitimate trade and he was just ignoring it. Hell, he very well could have known about the Indy/CLE deal and didn't respond b/c he was on to you.
also to add to this.

ebaker your complaining about lack of response the trade didnt even happen 24 hours ago. and your trying to pull a fast one on the guy.. I know not every owner is responsive that quickly seems silly to get fired up over that

 
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I think offering a weak trade offer to another owner hoping he had not yet heard the news about a movement of one of his players (to a new team he would have likely been very excited about) while perfectly legal is also totally lame. That probably wouldn't go over very well in my league. Also even if that deal goes through, is anyone ever going to want to trade with you again?

 
"HEY! YOU!!! I'M TRYING TO SCREW YOU OVER RIGHT NOW! WILL YOU PLEASE STOP BEING SUCH A JERK AND RESPOND TO MY WEAK #### TRADE OFFER!"

 
The courteous comment was more or less general answer. Yes i was/am trying to pull one over, and would not have felt bad one bit if he had accepted immediately. Why? Because i have things set to my electronic devices to make me aware of such situations. I am not responsible for each owners knowledge of their players, only mine and the ones I wish to acquire. Ya'll act like ya'll have never tried such a move. It's part of the game, if you are an irresponsible owner and don't keep track of your players and grab the bait I have dangled in front of you, not my problem.
Yeah I'm with ya but you can't really complain about a lack of response to your attempt to "pull one over" on a guy. It's not like you sent him a legitimate trade and he was just ignoring it. Hell, he very well could have known about the Indy/CLE deal and didn't respond b/c he was on to you.
I can respectively agree with that. It's not like I offered him something he COULDN'T pass up. Was simply R.Bush/J.Gordon for Trent. By far a trade leaning in my favor, but could very well back fire with the new O trent is going to.

I think offering a weak trade offer to another owner hoping he had not yet heard the news about a movement of one of his players (to a new team he would have likely been very excited about) while perfectly legal is also totally lame. That probably wouldn't go over very well in my league. Also even if that deal goes through, is anyone ever going to want to trade with you again?
As far as wanting to trade with me again... Could really care less, there are only a handful of trades I do every year. This would be THE ONE i want. I just picked up J.Jones and gave up T.Smith/D.Richardson which everyone thought was an "Even Trade". I also grabbed Tate as SOON as i heard Foster was having back trouble so the Foster owner couldn't use him. Like I said, its part of the game and some of us will make slick/ shark like moves and some of us try to play a fair game and be nice when offering trades. I paid my $50 to go and put together the best team possible to win the league. If I ruffle feathers while I am at it, sorry I don't have a conservative mentality. I paid to play and play to win.... nothing more nothing less. I have fun doing it this way and it has worked for me thus far.

 
JuniorNB said:
MIMN said:
So what should they do if the answer is the following?

"I'm not sure. I have a job that I work at during the week and can't focus every second on fantasy football. I'd like to look on the Internet to see if there is something I am missing (like T Rich being traded) and then evaluate how the change impacts my team before making a decision. If you can't wait for me and need to make a move elsewhere I understand. Feel free to withdraw the trade offer and approach someone else. Bear in mind that most people in the league don't do a lot of trading so approaching someone else may be just as difficult as waiting for me. Also consider that your offer was not so tempting that I feel like i must jump on it or miss a season changing opportunity."

That is a lot to type in a text message. :)

It is still annoying but hardly worth league rules dictating responsiveness and such measures.
A simple, "I'll get back to you" would do.
Ha, that was a tough one to figure out.

 
I always respond to offers quickly, but the one thing that I don't like are those that send you an email saying, "what would it take to trade for so and so". These people want to make trades but don't want to make the first offer. They will make you believe the reason is to cut through the chase and get directly to a deal involving players you're willing to trade, but I'm not buying it. I believe that if you have someone that I covet, then it's my responsibility to come up with a great first offer. Some folks find that almost impossible to do. They fear like hell they are going to get ripped off, so they want you to make the first offer, and if they are forced to make the first offer it almost always a bad one. It's another attempt at putting the ball back in your corner for you to make the "real" offer. What these people don't realize is that they would make a lot more trades if they make a great first offer. But either the fear of getting ripped off, or the need to rip off, seems to be their agenda most of the time, unfortunately.

 
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The courteous comment was more or less general answer. Yes i was/am trying to pull one over, and would not have felt bad one bit if he had accepted immediately. Why? Because i have things set to my electronic devices to make me aware of such situations. I am not responsible for each owners knowledge of their players, only mine and the ones I wish to acquire. Ya'll act like ya'll have never tried such a move. It's part of the game, if you are an irresponsible owner and don't keep track of your players and grab the bait I have dangled in front of you, not my problem.
See, this is why I let trade offers dangle, especially if it is a no-brainer rejection. If Richardson ruptures his achilles in practice, I am going to stick the other owner with him.

 
Ebaker5 said:
But i will say i am trying to acquire Trich in this league also and yes I was/am trying to take advantage of a possible mental lapse of the owner. In hopes he did not see the trade done and would quickly swipe up my offer. That's part of the game though and feel no guilt in playing the system lol.
Being courteous is why.
 
Ebaker5 said:
But i will say i am trying to acquire Trich in this league also and yes I was/am trying to take advantage of a possible mental lapse of the owner. In hopes he did not see the trade done and would quickly swipe up my offer. That's part of the game though and feel no guilt in playing the system lol.
Being courteous is why.
Read a little further, said it was a generalization. Wanna quote this as a response too?

 
davearm said:
Ebaker5 said:
Trying to trade with some owners in one of my leagues but neither one is responsive. Have sent emails and texts about trades and nothing. One trade simply expired with no response so I resent. Any of you have ways of dealing with this? I'm simply looking for a Yes/No from the owners lol.
Hint -- it's probably not a Yes
This. Just move on if someone isn't responsive. I had a commisioner of a league I played in for many years, always paying my fees on time, that booted me from a league because I wasn't responding to his bad trade offers in May. Just know some people are not as gung ho about fantasy football as you are or are not comfortable trading.

 
I always respond to offers quickly, but the one thing that I don't like are those that send you an email saying, "what would it take to trade for so and so". These people want to make trades but don't want to make the first offer. They will make you believe the reason is to cut through the chase and get directly to a deal involving players you're willing to trade, but I'm not buying it. I believe that if you have someone that I covet, then it's my responsibility to come up with a great first offer. Some folks find that almost impossible to do. They fear like hell they are going to get ripped off, so they want you to make the first offer, and if they are forced to make the first offer it almost always a bad one. It's another attempt at putting the ball back in your corner for you to make the "real" offer. What these people don't realize is that they would make a lot more trades if they make a great first offer. But either the fear of getting ripped off, or the need to rip off, seems to be their agenda most of the time, unfortunately.
I try to do this. I actually got a deal done recently that took 2 weeks to do but ended up being my first offer. He gave me the this is your first offer, you have to give me something. I told him I want to get the deal done, this is the most I will give, it is a fair price.

 
Ebaker5 said:
But i will say i am trying to acquire Trich in this league also and yes I was/am trying to take advantage of a possible mental lapse of the owner. In hopes he did not see the trade done and would quickly swipe up my offer. That's part of the game though and feel no guilt in playing the system lol.
Being courteous is why.
Read a little further, said it was a generalization. Wanna quote this as a response too?
It's what you said in a nutshell of your own words.You want to take advantage of someone, want them to capitulate quickly, and think it's rude when they don't.

Go right ahead and keep explaining how it really isn't what you said.

 
What's worse? The owner that ignores trade offers or the owners who never accept a trade no matter how fair the trade may be in fear of getting screwed?

 
Couple of interesting characters in leagues:

1. The guy that doesn't have the league software set to send him an e-mail that he has a trade offer. He's also the guy that rarely checks in during the off-season and checks in once a week during the season. Never really sure they check their trades or transactions log to see if they have/had an offer. Doesn't respond to e-mail either.

2. The guy that will initiate e-mail discussion about players that he's interested in, but will never actually make an offer. Can e-mail back and forth about various players for weeks/months. Guy can go 10 years straight without initiating an offer. Only wants to accept/decline, but not initiate or counter with an actual offer. I guess he just likes to talk football.

3. The shotgun / mass trade offer guy. Usually zero trades that aren't trying to rip an owner off. But this guy always finds a sucker or two each year. Usually the same suckers too.

4. Used car salesman guy. I don't mind the approach so much. At least it's an outsider's opinion on how my players suck and his players are great. Yet, he wants my guys anyways. Just don't write 3 pages worth of blah-blah-blah. I get the picture already.

5. Yup, just hit reject already guy. You saw it, no need to let it sit out there to expire if it doesn't interest you.

6. The grudge guy. Guys hold grudges about a comment being said, a bad deal previously, or not wanting to make a winning team stronger. Get over it if the new deal actually helps your team out.

7. Guy that offers trades that make no sense. Let's not trade from each of our team's strengths. Let's just give this guy the players he's after. Don't think he looks at other owners roster needs when dreaming up his world domination.

8, The ADHD guy. I sent you an offer. Did you see my offer? How come you haven't responded to my offer? Oh, you were sleeping or have a job... that's cool. Did you look over my offer? I got another one coming your way. Did you get my offer?.....

9. Auto-reject guy. Quick on the draw. Never sure what this guy wants or needs. Not the talkative type in the least. Reject. Reject. Reject.

10. Youngest player in the dynasty deal guy. Must "win" every trade according to the messageboard of choice group think or website ranking list. It's usually all about trade value and not about winning championships. Like clockwork, he has that middle to aging guy that's leading his team to a play-off spot only to trade him away just before the play-offs because he loses trade value after the season. Thanks for the trophy guy.

 
If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.
The messages were sent a day after the original trade was proposed. If you cant check you league page 1-2x a day then really what are you playing for? Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the fun of FF but if you pay $50 to play a game the least you can do is be active and attentive 1-2x a day. Success in a league is judged (league as a whole) by communication between owners. If I can't make some kind of contact with you or you simply don't respond to contact why should the league want you around? In my Yahoo league we have a group text that we all monitor and usually deals are typically taken care of and done within 10-12 hours. The ESPN league is hit and miss, partly because a lot of the guys are afraid to trade but mostly because guys only get on on Sundays and Monday to adjust teams and then just leave them be until next week.
:shrug: All of my leagues run waivers on wednesday. So any trade offers made on monday and tuesday are likely to be responded to on wednesday. I feel no need or desire to check everything every day. No big rush early in the week anyway.

 
If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.
The messages were sent a day after the original trade was proposed. If you cant check you league page 1-2x a day then really what are you playing for? Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the fun of FF but if you pay $50 to play a game the least you can do is be active and attentive 1-2x a day. Success in a league is judged (league as a whole) by communication between owners. If I can't make some kind of contact with you or you simply don't respond to contact why should the league want you around? In my Yahoo league we have a group text that we all monitor and usually deals are typically taken care of and done within 10-12 hours. The ESPN league is hit and miss, partly because a lot of the guys are afraid to trade but mostly because guys only get on on Sundays and Monday to adjust teams and then just leave them be until next week.
i know it's unpopular but I do kind of agree with this. It really isn't hard to check the league page once a day (although you shouldn't even have to because you get trade alerts via email). I just had a trade offer lapse after a couple of days, which is pretty frustrating, and while I know sometimes people agonise over a trade decision (you only need to spend 5 mins in the assistant coach forum to see this), I do think most of the time, you know pretty much right away if you are interested in an offer or not. If you aren't, just click decline. It always seems to be that way though, especially in larger size leagues - even when you do your best to weed out the more inactive owners or have a league buy in, there are always 2 or 3 teams who it is just pointless to send a trade offer to because you know they're hardly ever doing anything with their team.

 
If somebody sends me a trade through the league interface and then emails me or texts me or whatever soon after, I'm ignoring him on principle. Send once and I'll read it at some point. Bombard me and I'm just gonna let it sit because I know you're of the same stock as the OP and that it's really going to bug you.

It's all about enjoying the simple pleasures in life.
The messages were sent a day after the original trade was proposed. If you cant check you league page 1-2x a day then really what are you playing for? Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the fun of FF but if you pay $50 to play a game the least you can do is be active and attentive 1-2x a day. Success in a league is judged (league as a whole) by communication between owners. If I can't make some kind of contact with you or you simply don't respond to contact why should the league want you around? In my Yahoo league we have a group text that we all monitor and usually deals are typically taken care of and done within 10-12 hours. The ESPN league is hit and miss, partly because a lot of the guys are afraid to trade but mostly because guys only get on on Sundays and Monday to adjust teams and then just leave them be until next week.
i know it's unpopular but I do kind of agree with this. It really isn't hard to check the league page once a day (although you shouldn't even have to because you get trade alerts via email). I just had a trade offer lapse after a couple of days, which is pretty frustrating, and while I know sometimes people agonise over a trade decision (you only need to spend 5 mins in the assistant coach forum to see this), I do think most of the time, you know pretty much right away if you are interested in an offer or not. If you aren't, just click decline. It always seems to be that way though, especially in larger size leagues - even when you do your best to weed out the more inactive owners or have a league buy in, there are always 2 or 3 teams who it is just pointless to send a trade offer to because you know they're hardly ever doing anything with their team.
That's fine if it were a redraft league, but a real killer for dynasty leagues. These types of owners should only play in redraft leagues if all they're interested in is drafting a team and leaving it as is and disappearing into the sunset.

 
You two hit it on the head. Honesty I sent the Trich owner a #### deal. A mangled Bush and a unproven Josh Gordon. But hell if he would have got back to me I would have been willing to deal spiller and some other WR on my team. I like trading, it's part of the experience. But I damn sure ain't gonna sell out on the first offer.

 
You two hit it on the head. Honesty I sent the Trich owner a #### deal. A mangled Bush and a unproven Josh Gordon. But hell if he would have got back to me I would have been willing to deal spiller and some other WR on my team. I like trading, it's part of the experience. But I damn sure ain't gonna sell out on the first offer.
I think that's a mistake if you really want to trade for TRich. You should make your best offer right away and tell him that you're making your best offer up front to show you're serious about trading. The hell with this haggling. Some owners haggle their way right out of a deal ,then they are left sitting with a blank stare on their face, along with drool seeping down their chin.

 
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You two hit it on the head. Honesty I sent the Trich owner a #### deal. A mangled Bush and a unproven Josh Gordon. But hell if he would have got back to me I would have been willing to deal spiller and some other WR on my team. I like trading, it's part of the experience. But I damn sure ain't gonna sell out on the first offer.
But you were trying to pull a fast one on him. hoping you wouldnt have to give up spiller or a better wr.

 
You two hit it on the head. Honesty I sent the Trich owner a #### deal. A mangled Bush and a unproven Josh Gordon. But hell if he would have got back to me I would have been willing to deal spiller and some other WR on my team. I like trading, it's part of the experience. But I damn sure ain't gonna sell out on the first offer.
So your #### deal gets ignored and you come here to whine about? Great work :thumbup:

 

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