Updated '07 Combine results (1 Viewer)

[JayMan]

For the position posted in topic... I will try and update a category when it's in the books...

Height is measured at 1/8 of an inch... 6031 means... 6'3'' and 1/8...

Player------------Hgt--Wgt--40s--225-Vjump-20ydS--60ydS-Bjump--3CnsAnderson, Cory----6030-258--------23--37.0-------------------------Booker, Lorenzo---5103-188--4.46--26---------------------1001------Bradshaw, Ahmad---5112-195--4.60------------4.09---------------6.70Buckley, Eldra----5092-205--4.59------35.5-------------------------Bush, Michael-----6017-248-----------------------------------------Clayton, Thomas---5101-220--4.65--23--36.5-------------------------Coleman, Alonzo---5102-205--4.49--27-------------------------------Cornish, Jon------5117-210--4.67-----------------------------------Darby, Kenneth----5101-212--4.64-----------------------------------Deon, Anderson----5100-228--------23-------------------------------Henry, Chris------6002-228--4.40--26--36.0--4.14--11.51--1007--6.96Hunt, Tony--------6016-239--------24-------------------------------Ilaoa, Nate-------5087-245--4.78--25--------------11.78------------Irons, Kenny------5107-198--4.45------38.0--------11.47--1003--7.00Jackson, Brandon--5112-210--4.57------37.0---------------1002--7.00Leonard, Brian----6020-235--4.49--28--------4.14--11.59--1002--6.88Lynch, Marshawn---5110-217--4.46--20--35.5--4.46--11.80--1005--7.05McClain, Le'Ron---6010-257--4.86-----------------------------------McGill, Ronnie----5110-220--------22-------------------------------Moss, Tyrone------5092-235--4.70-----------------------------------Peterson, Adrian--6020-218--4.40------38.5---------------1007------Pittman, Antonio--5110-195--4.40--16--------4.16---------1003--6.84Russell, Gary-----5100-229--4.80--09-------------------------------Smith, Kolby------5110-215--4.51------38.0-------------------------Snelling, Jason---5110-245--4.74-------------------------------7.06Taylor, Ramonce---5110-195--4.50-------------------------1005--6.98Walker, Darius----5100-208--4.56------40.5---------------1003------Ware, Danny-------6010-222-----------------------------------------Wolfe, Garrett----5110-172--------22--------4.08---------------6.69Wright, Dwayne----6010-210--4.68-----------------------------------Wynn, DeShawn-----5110-228--4.48-----------------------------------Young, Selvin-----6000-215-----------------------------------------

 

[JayMan]

RBs 40s added to the 1st post...

 

[LHUCKS]

Jackson's average 40 time is going to make him an even bigger sleeper in FF...although it may take him a while to get his chance.

 

[JayMan]

Day 3 in the books...

 

[Chaos Commish]

DeShawn Wynn looks like the big winner here.

 

[Slider]

Brian Leonard at 235 lbs is pretty freakish.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Brian Leonard at 235 lbs is pretty freakish.

I think he weighed in at 224. That or 226 was his weight at the Senior Bowl, anyway. In an interview he said he took off 12 pounds to run better and try to convince that he is an RB, not an FB or an HB...

 

[Slider]

Brian Leonard at 235 lbs is pretty freakish.

I think he weighed in at 224. That or 226 was his weight at the Senior Bowl, anyway. In an interview he said he took off 12 pounds to run better and try to convince that he is an RB, not an FB or an HB...

I know this but running toe to toe with Lynch is pretty impressive. He is about 6'+".

 

[Gandalf]

DeShawn Wynn looks like the big winner here.

I agree. The knock on Wynn was that he always seemed out of shape. Maybe he finally got it and is working hard now.

 

[pinda]

Am I blind here or is the big winner none of the above that you mentioned.

Chris Henry, 6'0, 230lbs running a 4.33???? are you kidding me? a guy that big, that fast?

I know people will doubt his drive as a football player, but that is some sick numbers.

 

[Gandalf]

Am I blind here or is the big winner none of the above that you mentioned.Chris Henry, 6'0, 230lbs running a 4.33???? are you kidding me? a guy that big, that fast?I know people will doubt his drive as a football player, but that is some sick numbers.

You are correct, he is the BIG winner. I was thinking of Wynn as like big winner #2.

 

[texasyankee]

Brian Leonard at 235 lbs is pretty freakish.

I think he weighed in at 224. That or 226 was his weight at the Senior Bowl, anyway. In an interview he said he took off 12 pounds to run better and try to convince that he is an RB, not an FB or an HB...

I know this but running toe to toe with Lynch is pretty impressive. He is about 6'+".

He also did the most Reps of any running back

 

[TLEF316]

ouch. Russel ran a 4.8??

i always thought he looked better than maroney at UM

 

[Irish]

Pittman running a 4.42 really helped himself too IMO.

 

[billymays]

cant believe no one has said Lorenzo Booker

26 reps? holy ####!

i think this guy could be good.

i didnt watch him that much, but he looked like he had to do things on his own at FSU.

 

[msommer]

Booker, Irons, Pittman all look like they need to bulk up a little bit for the Pros

 

[fruity pebbles]

cant believe no one has said Lorenzo Booker26 reps? holy ####!i think this guy could be good.i didnt watch him that much, but he looked like he had to do things on his own at FSU.

Yeah, 26 reps at 188 pounds is pretty impressive. Still, 188 is really light for a RB no matter how strong he is.

 

[Two Deep]

Glad too see my guy tanked the 40 as discussed so he can fall to me in the draft.

 

[lod2005]

Glad too see my guy tanked the 40 as discussed so he can fall to me in the draft.

The dude didn't tank the 40. That was as fast as he could go. His GINORMOUS Mellonhead slowed him down.

 

[Jason Wood]

The projected top picks have all delivered at the Combine thus far, with a big hats off to Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson for actually running. Neither would've gotten flak for choosing not to run and waiting for their pro days.

Peterson has now basically run the gauntlet. Not only is he the most accomplished of the RBs and considered the most talented entering the Combine, but he's delivered the best measurables.

Not sure I understand the Lorenzo Booker love...dude is 188 lbs. and got stopped in his tracks quite a bit at FSU. I realize this isn't the FSU of old, but let's not pretend like he was playing at Valdosta State either.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

cant believe no one has said Lorenzo Booker26 reps? holy ####!i think this guy could be good.i didnt watch him that much, but he looked like he had to do things on his own at FSU.

Yeah, 26 reps at 188 pounds is pretty impressive. Still, 188 is really light for a RB no matter how strong he is.

He was the strongest player on the FSU team for 3 of the 4 years he was there. His pass blocking is where it really shows. He has planted some incoming safeties/linebackers in his day.

 

[EBF]

Because I'm a , I can tell you that those broad jump numbers for Lynch and Peterson are both very good. These guys really look like solid prospects. Lynch isn't as explosive as Peterson, but he should eventually become a pretty good NFL back.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Not sure I understand the Lorenzo Booker love...dude is 188 lbs. and got stopped in his tracks quite a bit at FSU. I realize this isn't the FSU of old, but let's not pretend like he was playing at Valdosta State either.

As you know Wood the Audible's favorite RB is Booker. Peterson/Lynch are clearly 1 and 2, but Booker can make a case for #3 and here's why:NFL is about matchups. Booker has the speed/moves that you can't teach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPumoZFpl4

That's a link to his "Matrix" run vs. ND.

He is a willing inside runner. He understands what it takes to get it done between the tackles and he sets up his blocks well. He's patient and if he can get a hole he will exploit it.

Clearly his place in the NFL is a change of pace back. But oh what a change of pace he could be! He can catch out of the backfield with his natural hands, and will be great on draws/screens/counters.

He is great in pass protection (his Audible interview goes a little more in depth as to when he started taking blocking so seriously).

http://podcast.footballguys.com/Footballgu...2007-Vol32a.mp3

He needs to run behind his pads a little more when running through trash at the line of scrimmage and perhaps that will help him run through tackles better (a clear weakness of his).

He's no MJD, but more of a Warrick Dunn type of player. In the right offense he can be a great weapon.

 

[EBF]

Some thoughts here:

- Everyone has always kind of said that Deshawn Wynn is a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type of guy. Don't be fooled.

- Booker's time is good, but somewhat disappointing given expectations of a sub 4.4.

- Brian Leonard looks like an interesting prospect at this point. He's unlikely to ever be a full-time featured runner, but he has a versatile skill set and could be a decent player in PPR leagues, where he might be best characterized as "Mike Alstott with hands."

- The impression I've always gotten from Brandon Jackson is that he's good, but not great. Good usually isn't good enough in the NFL. I see Michael Pittman as his upside.

- Nice time from Peterson, but that's no surprise. He's really the unquestioned #1 RB in this group.

- Lynch has to be the unquestioned #2 in this group. He doesn't have the home run speed of Peterson or the top quickness that you hope for, but he's a very well-rounded talent. I think he'll be an average NFL starter.

- A 4.8 and only 9 bench reps from Gary Russell? He must be a couch potato. That's good, because Madden NFL 2007 is the only football he'll be playing next year.

- Selvin Young might be the Wali Lundy/Cedric Houston of this class. Not great. Not horrible. Just decent.

 

[LHUCKS]

Let's not get too excited about some of these scat backs putting up good 40 times.

 

[LHUCKS]

- The impression I've always gotten from Brandon Jackson is that he's good, but not great. Good usually isn't good enough in the NFL. I see Michael Pittman as his upside.

This was the first year he really got any opportunity and he really came on at the end of the year. Let's not also forget he's still a Junior...I think he's a few years away from carrying the load anywhere, but an outstanding dynasty prospect. As Mayock stated, there's a lot of buzz right now about Brandon Jackson's potential.

 

[EBF]

I'm kind of thinking it looks like this right now:

1. Adrian Peterson

2. Marshawn Lynch

3. Antonio Pittman

4. Kenny Irons

5. Brandon Jackson

6. Lorenzo Booker (probably lower in non-PPR)

7. Michael Bush

8. Tony Hunt

9. Brian Leonard

10. Darius Walker

11. Dwayne Wright

12. Thomas Clayton

Sleepers: Chris Henry, Selvin Young, Ramonce Taylor

Bush and Hunt have a chance to go a lot higher than this in the draft. I'm personally wary of Hunt because he looks upright and slow, which is the kiss of death in the NFL. Bush is also a little too big for his own good, but he seems like a better athlete than Hunt. He could move up into RB3 mix with a good workout. Personally, I tend to avoid the jumbo backs. They haven't done all that well lately.

Good combine performances from Irons, Pittman, and Jackson have me slightly more optimistic about this group than I was last week. I think we'll see an NFL-caliber starter or two emerge from this third tier. I think all of these guys could be serviceable in spot duty. Whether or not any of them could ever be great is another question entirely.

 

[Biabreakable]

I'm kind of thinking it looks like this right now:1. Adrian Peterson2. Marshawn Lynch3. Antonio Pittman4. Kenny Irons5. Brandon Jackson6. Lorenzo Booker (probably lower in non-PPR)7. Michael Bush8. Tony Hunt9. Brian Leonard10. Darius Walker11. Dwayne Wright12. Thomas ClaytonSleepers: Chris Henry, Selvin Young, Ramonce TaylorBush and Hunt have a chance to go a lot higher than this in the draft. I'm personally wary of Hunt because he looks upright and slow, which is the kiss of death in the NFL. Bush is also a little too big for his own good, but he seems like a better athlete than Hunt. He could move up into RB3 mix with a good workout. Personally, I tend to avoid the jumbo backs. They haven't done all that well lately. Good combine performances from Irons, Pittman, and Jackson have me slightly more optimistic about this group than I was last week. I think we'll see an NFL-caliber starter or two emerge from this third tier. I think all of these guys could be serviceable in spot duty. Whether or not any of them could ever be great is another question entirely.

I think this tiering looks pretty good but what about Wynn? He seems to belong in the 3rd or 4th tier to me.

 

[The Natural]

Are these numbers disappointing for M Lynch?

Group 6 (RB) -- Top Five Results: 60 Shuttle1.  Kenny Irons 	   Auburn 		   11.472.  Chris Henry 	   Arizona 		  11.513.  Briand Leonards	Rutgers 		  11.594.  Nate Ilaoa 		Hawaii 		   11.785.  Marshawn Lynch	 Cal-Berkeley 	 11.80

Group 6 (RB) -- Top 10 Results: Three Cone1. Garrett Wolfe 	   Northern Illinois 	6.692. Ahmad Bradshaw 	  Marshall 			 6.703. Antonio Pittman 	 Ohio St. 			 6.844. Brian Leonard 	   Rutgers 			  6.885. Chris Henry 		 Arizona 			  6.966. Ramonce Taylor 	  Texas 				6.987. Kenny Irons 		 Auburn 			   7.008. Brandon Jackson 	 Nebraska 			 7.009. Marshawn Lynch 	  Cal-Berkeley 		 7.0510. Jason Snelling 	 Virginia 			 7.06

Group 6 (RB) -- Top 10 Results: Vertical Jump1. Darius Walker 	  Notre Dame 			  40 1/22. Adrian Peterson 	Oklahoma 				38 1/23. Kenny Irons 		Auburn 				  384. Kolby Smith 		Louisville 			  385. Cory Anderson 	  Tennessee 			   376. Brandon Jackson 	Nebraska 				377. Thomas Clayton 	 Kansas St. 			  36 1/28. Chris Henry 		Arizona 				 369. Marshawn Lynch	  Cal Berkeley 			35 1/210. Eldra Buckley 	 Tennessee-Chatt 		 35 1/2

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[ConstruxBoy]

I'm likely to be picking Lynch at 3rd in a dynasty league and those numbers look a little bit lower than I would have thought. However, I don't know that anyone thought he was a super quick guy, so the three cone and shuttle are not that much lower than I would have thought.

 

[Gandalf]

I'm not worried about Marshawn Lynch at all. His combine numbers confirmed what I expected, and as an owner and fan for the last 2+ years (we have a college roster), I'm very happy with how he performed. Every aspect of his game is solid. I can't wait to see where he lands.

 

[JayMan]

Updated results...

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I know I'm an RU homer, but I'm telling you right now, whoever drafts Brian Leonard is going to get one hell of a football player.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I know I'm an RU homer, but I'm telling you right now, whoever drafts Brian Leonard is going to get one hell of a football player.

I'm right there with you.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I know I'm an RU homer, but I'm telling you right now, whoever drafts Brian Leonard is going to get one hell of a football player.

I'm right there with you.

Quite simply, the guy can do it all. Run, block, catch the ball out of the backfield - he's smart, he's a team guy, a good character guy, etc. These numbers he's put up at the combine are going to dispel some concerns about his athleticism as well.

 

[beto]

Updated results...

some of your numbers look off. Garrett Wolfe at 5'11"? I thought he was 5'7" at the Senior bowlI also thought Adrian Peterson measured below 6'2"?

 

[Warpig]

Are these numbers disappointing for M Lynch?

Group 6 (RB) -- Top Five Results: 60 Shuttle1. Kenny Irons Auburn 11.472. Chris Henry Arizona 11.513. Briand Leonards Rutgers 11.594. Nate Ilaoa Hawaii 11.785. Marshawn Lynch Cal-Berkeley 11.80

Group 6 (RB) -- Top 10 Results: Three Cone1. Garrett Wolfe 	   Northern Illinois 	6.692. Ahmad Bradshaw 	  Marshall 			 6.703. Antonio Pittman 	 Ohio St. 			 6.844. Brian Leonard 	   Rutgers 			  6.885. Chris Henry 		 Arizona 			  6.966. Ramonce Taylor 	  Texas 				6.987. Kenny Irons 		 Auburn 			   7.008. Brandon Jackson 	 Nebraska 			 7.009. Marshawn Lynch 	  Cal-Berkeley 		 7.0510. Jason Snelling 	 Virginia 			 7.06

Group 6 (RB) -- Top 10 Results: Vertical Jump1. Darius Walker 	  Notre Dame 			  40 1/22. Adrian Peterson 	Oklahoma 				38 1/23. Kenny Irons 		Auburn 				  384. Kolby Smith 		Louisville 			  385. Cory Anderson 	  Tennessee 			   376. Brandon Jackson 	Nebraska 				377. Thomas Clayton 	 Kansas St. 			  36 1/28. Chris Henry 		Arizona 				 369. Marshawn Lynch	  Cal Berkeley 			35 1/210. Eldra Buckley 	 Tennessee-Chatt 		 35 1/2

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It shows that Marshawn has better straight ahead speed than lateral quickness. The shuttles and cone drills are for testing quickness.

In comparison, AJ Hawk ran the 10 yard test where they start in the middle and run and touch a line on the left (5 yards), then run and touch on the right (5 yards) then sprint back to the left in 3.89!!! The average for the top athletes is 4.19 I believe!

 

[Scorehoard]

More often than not if you don't have that PROlific physique coming into the league you can possibly walk into a 3rd down back. Those in many cases like a Chris Perry, M. Pittman, M. Morris, etc. can catch. In addition the majority of the best backs in the league are a double threat as a runner and receiver (Bush, LT, Tiki, Westbrook, LJ, etc.). So what I am wanting to know is who of these guys are threats catching the ball. Fill me in

 

[EBF]

Are these numbers disappointing for M Lynch?

Group 6 (RB) -- Top Five Results: 60 Shuttle1.  Kenny Irons 	   Auburn 		   11.472.  Chris Henry 	   Arizona 		  11.513.  Briand Leonards	Rutgers 		  11.594.  Nate Ilaoa 		Hawaii 		   11.785.  Marshawn Lynch	 Cal-Berkeley 	 11.80

Group 6 (RB) -- Top 10 Results: Three Cone1. Garrett Wolfe 	   Northern Illinois 	6.692. Ahmad Bradshaw 	  Marshall 			 6.703. Antonio Pittman 	 Ohio St. 			 6.844. Brian Leonard 	   Rutgers 			  6.885. Chris Henry 		 Arizona 			  6.966. Ramonce Taylor 	  Texas 				6.987. Kenny Irons 		 Auburn 			   7.008. Brandon Jackson 	 Nebraska 			 7.009. Marshawn Lynch 	  Cal-Berkeley 		 7.0510. Jason Snelling 	 Virginia 			 7.06

Group 6 (RB) -- Top 10 Results: Vertical Jump1. Darius Walker 	  Notre Dame 			  40 1/22. Adrian Peterson 	Oklahoma 				38 1/23. Kenny Irons 		Auburn 				  384. Kolby Smith 		Louisville 			  385. Cory Anderson 	  Tennessee 			   376. Brandon Jackson 	Nebraska 				377. Thomas Clayton 	 Kansas St. 			  36 1/28. Chris Henry 		Arizona 				 369. Marshawn Lynch	  Cal Berkeley 			35 1/210. Eldra Buckley 	 Tennessee-Chatt 		 35 1/2

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Those aren't that bad. As a rough rule, any VJ over 35" is respectable. Any three cone time under 7 seconds is respectable.

 

[EBF]

More often than not if you don't have that PROlific physique coming into the league you can possibly walk into a 3rd down back. Those in many cases like a Chris Perry, M. Pittman, M. Morris, etc. can catch. In addition the majority of the best backs in the league are a double threat as a runner and receiver (Bush, LT, Tiki, Westbrook, LJ, etc.). So what I am wanting to know is who of these guys are threats catching the ball. Fill me in

It's tough to say at this point. Booker and Leonard look like the best receivers at the moment. Lynch and Pittman also look solid in that category. Peterson didn't catch many passes in college, but most people think he has the tools to be a decent receiver. I don't know enough about Jackson's receiving skills to comment on him, but he looks like he'll at least be adequate.Hunt, Bush, and Irons don't look like they'll ever be major threats in the passing game.

 

[higgins]

 

[LHUCKS]

More often than not if you don't have that PROlific physique coming into the league you can possibly walk into a 3rd down back. Those in many cases like a Chris Perry, M. Pittman, M. Morris, etc. can catch. In addition the majority of the best backs in the league are a double threat as a runner and receiver (Bush, LT, Tiki, Westbrook, LJ, etc.). So what I am wanting to know is who of these guys are threats catching the ball. Fill me in

It's tough to say at this point. Booker and Leonard look like the best receivers at the moment. Lynch and Pittman also look solid in that category. Peterson didn't catch many passes in college, but most people think he has the tools to be a decent receiver. I don't know enough about Jackson's receiving skills to comment on him, but he looks like he'll at least be adequate.Hunt, Bush, and Irons don't look like they'll ever be major threats in the passing game.

I think Lynch best fits into the pass-catching back category.

 

[EBF]

I'm kind of thinking it looks like this right now:1. Adrian Peterson2. Marshawn Lynch3. Antonio Pittman4. Kenny Irons5. Brandon Jackson6. Lorenzo Booker (probably lower in non-PPR)7. Michael Bush8. Tony Hunt9. Brian Leonard10. Darius Walker11. Dwayne Wright12. Thomas ClaytonSleepers: Chris Henry, Selvin Young, Ramonce TaylorBush and Hunt have a chance to go a lot higher than this in the draft. I'm personally wary of Hunt because he looks upright and slow, which is the kiss of death in the NFL. Bush is also a little too big for his own good, but he seems like a better athlete than Hunt. He could move up into RB3 mix with a good workout. Personally, I tend to avoid the jumbo backs. They haven't done all that well lately. Good combine performances from Irons, Pittman, and Jackson have me slightly more optimistic about this group than I was last week. I think we'll see an NFL-caliber starter or two emerge from this third tier. I think all of these guys could be serviceable in spot duty. Whether or not any of them could ever be great is another question entirely.

I think this tiering looks pretty good but what about Wynn? He seems to belong in the 3rd or 4th tier to me.

As I've said, I've always heard he's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane." He probably belongs somewhere in the mix with Walker and Wright.

 

[mightyeskimo]

Could you please confirm your height of Clayton and Coleman? I don't think they are 5'1".

 

[mightyeskimo]

Could you please confirm your 20 yard shuttle time for Peterson? I don't think he ran that drill and you may have Pittman's 4.16 time in the wrong row. Thanks.

 

[JayMan]

Could you please confirm your 20 yard shuttle time for Peterson? I don't think he ran that drill and you may have Pittman's 4.16 time in the wrong row. Thanks.

Corrected... on all accounts (other's heights also)... thanks

 

[mightyeskimo]

Could you please confirm your 20 yard shuttle time for Peterson? I don't think he ran that drill and you may have Pittman's 4.16 time in the wrong row. Thanks.

Corrected... on all accounts (other's heights also)... thanks

Thanks Jay! I know how much work goes into compiling all this info and I'm sure everyone here on these boards, myself included, appreciates your work.

 

[Couch Potato]

- A 4.8 and only 9 bench reps from Gary Russell? He must be a couch potato. That's good, because Madden NFL 2007 is the only football he'll be playing next year.

OK, you found me out. I'm really Gary Russell when not posting here.

 

[JAA]

Leanord is a pimp

 

[Couch Potato]

Leanord is a pimp

1) Business-minded2) Good with numbers3) Outgoing and personable