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[pantherclub]

Panther with 2 stars. Lmao. Whatever. Who ever wrote that knows nothing about football. he says the panthers biggest need was TE. Is he insane. Granted we still need a safety but they are a dime a dozen and we will have tons of cash in the offseason. Jarrett, kali and johnson were absolute steals for where they went. The little returner they got from Miami (OH) should step in immediatley and help.

usa today is way out there on that one

 

[patrickmcgroin]

Panther with 2 stars. Lmao. Whatever. Who ever wrote that knows nothing about football. he says the panthers biggest need was TE. Is he insane. Granted we still need a safety but they are a dime a dozen and we will have tons of cash in the offseason. Jarrett, kali and johnson were absolute steals for where they went. The little returner they got from Miami (OH) should step in immediatley and help. usa today is way out there on that one

Seems like only Panther fans know that we don't pick TEs that early.

 

[Warpig]

Panther with 2 stars. Lmao. Whatever. Who ever wrote that knows nothing about football. he says the panthers biggest need was TE. Is he insane. Granted we still need a safety but they are a dime a dozen and we will have tons of cash in the offseason. Jarrett, kali and johnson were absolute steals for where they went. The little returner they got from Miami (OH) should step in immediatley and help. usa today is way out there on that one

Seems like only Panther fans know that we don't pick TEs that early.

Not only that, but Panthers never throw to their TE's. They are basically additional blockers for their running game.I think the Panthers had a solid draft. Love the Jarrett and Kalil steals!

 

[pantherclub]

There are what maybe 5 te's in the league you can build your offense around? Maybe 5, so why waste a pick on a non blocking te that underproduced in college?

 

[billymays]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1. It has to be an incomplete for now, until we know what the browns final record is.

And I dont think the Houston grades i've seen seem right. on one hand you have people talking about schaub as the greatest thing since bread but then the same people dont seem to think to highly of what the texans did with their draft picks. how does that add up?

 

[pmcdade]

Of course the article also says that "CB Eric Wright is a great third-round grab, if his character issues don't resurface."

He was a 2nd round pick.

That being said, I think the Browns had a good draft.

 

[pmcdade]

It has to be an incomplete for now, until we know what the browns final record is.

Isn't that true of all draft grades?

 

[Meat]

Interesting, USA Today w/ the Eagles @ 1 star, and Sporting News grades them with an A....

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Interesting, USA Today w/ the Eagles @ 1 star, and Sporting News grades them with an A....

I can top that.............Usa gave Miami 1 star and Sporting News gave them an A+.No way Miami deserves an A+. As soon as I saw that, for me I didn't even want to see the rest because it lost all credibility.

 

[billymays]

It has to be an incomplete for now, until we know what the browns final record is.

Isn't that true of all draft grades?

yeah but what i mean is what if brady quinn goes in there starts 10 games loses all of them and looks terrible doing it. OK that is fine whatever-but there is a possible number one overall pick in next years draft riding on this trade up.I mean would the raiders be getting all kinds of praise if they traded the #1 overall pick and their 2nd rounder to move down to the #22 spot to take Quinn. that is essentially what the quinn trade could amount to. the jets traded up roughly the same amount to get their guy-they gave up a 1,2 and 5 to get a 1 and 6 that seems a lot more logical to me.

 

[LHUCKS]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

 

[billymays]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

all im saying is if you do the math on the value of what picks are worth the browns basically said"Hey Jerry, Ill give you a hundred dollars if you give me 5 bucks and a kick to the nuts"I think Brady Quinn will be just like every other QB in their rookie year-lots of turnovers and not a lot of wins. This pick will be a HUGE topic next April and I think people will be less enthusiastic about what the browns did by then.

 

[pantherclub]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

Wierd logic

 

[billymays]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

all im saying is if you do the math on the value of what picks are worth the browns basically said"Hey Jerry, Ill give you a hundred dollars if you give me 5 bucks and a kick to the nuts"I think Brady Quinn will be just like every other QB in their rookie year-lots of turnovers and not a lot of wins. This pick will be a HUGE topic next April and I think people will be less enthusiastic about what the browns did by then.

see ya next year on this one

 

[Gatorman]

sporting news gave the dolphins an A+???

Interesting

 

[Achon44]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

all im saying is if you do the math on the value of what picks are worth the browns basically said"Hey Jerry, Ill give you a hundred dollars if you give me 5 bucks and a kick to the nuts"

If Arizona had offered Cleveland the 4th overall pick for their 2nd rounder and '08 1st rounder the Browns would have done it and drafted Quinn @ 4 and nobody would have questioned it. The outcomes of both that trade and the trade the Browns made with Dallas would have been the same for the Browns except now the Browns can pay Quinn MUCH less.

 

[NoFBinLA]

I don't get the love for the CHI TE pick. After the year Des Clark had, did the Bears really need a TE that can't block well?

I guess that's why USA only gave them 3 stars....

 

[LHUCKS]

sporting news gave the dolphins an A+???Interesting

I personally have no problem with their draft...of course I'm higher on Ginn and Beck than most so

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Panthers too Low

Steelers too High

 

[Kirby]

Panther with 2 stars. Lmao. Whatever. Who ever wrote that knows nothing about football. he says the panthers biggest need was TE. Is he insane. Granted we still need a safety but they are a dime a dozen and we will have tons of cash in the offseason. Jarrett, kali and johnson were absolute steals for where they went. The little returner they got from Miami (OH) should step in immediatley and help. usa today is way out there on that one

I think that was a great pick... keep Smith healthy.

 

[Jason Wood]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

LHUCKS, If Quinn ends up a Pro Bowl caliber starting QB for them, the Browns were brilliant to make that move. If he's average or worse, it was a hefty price. Impossible to say until we see Quinn develop; so based purely on what the Browns needed and what they came away with, I think the praise is justified.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Bump.....extra links added recently......

 

[LHUCKS]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

LHUCKS, If Quinn ends up a Pro Bowl caliber starting QB for them, the Browns were brilliant to make that move. If he's average or worse, it was a hefty price.

I'm betting below average, which is why I don't like their draft. It's the type of move that can set back a franchise four years.

 

[JimboJim]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

LHUCKS, If Quinn ends up a Pro Bowl caliber starting QB for them, the Browns were brilliant to make that move. If he's average or worse, it was a hefty price.

I'm betting below average, which is why I don't like their draft. It's the type of move that can set back a franchise four years.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...raft/index.htmlGo read this article on SI.com. It talks about the Browns process in acquiring the Cows pick for Quinn. They actually started making offers immediately after Miami passed on him. They tried to trade for the Texans pick at #10 to get him.

I'm not going to argue with you whether or not Quinn will be a good pro, only time will tell. However, from what's being said around the league, a number of teams certainly had him ranked in their overall top ten.

If he turns out to be a franchise QB, it is without question a strong draft. If he busts and their #1 next season is high, then it won't look so good. This is one of the very few draft trades I have seen where it looks like both teams made out well.

I do have to give them props for getting in done considering they believe Quinn is worth it. Right now though, you really do have to give them a good grade on Thomas and Quinn alone.

 

[JimboJim]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

all im saying is if you do the math on the value of what picks are worth the browns basically said"Hey Jerry, Ill give you a hundred dollars if you give me 5 bucks and a kick to the nuts"I think Brady Quinn will be just like every other QB in their rookie year-lots of turnovers and not a lot of wins. This pick will be a HUGE topic next April and I think people will be less enthusiastic about what the browns did by then.

That is flawed logic; if Quinn wasn't available at #22, then the Browns wouldn't have made a play for the pick. If the Browns though Quinn was one of the top 5-6 players in the draft, then the value of the #22 pick really becomes what the value of the pick would have been where Quinn was on their overall draft board.They didn't make that move just to get an extra first round pick. I thought one of the best moves in the draft was Carolina's. They took a calculated rick on dropping down and being able to get Beason, who they really liked. I read they would have been willing to take him at #14, but felt other teams didn't have him ranked as highly and they felt there was a good chance he would be there later. That is value.

 

[Jason Wood]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

LHUCKS, If Quinn ends up a Pro Bowl caliber starting QB for them, the Browns were brilliant to make that move. If he's average or worse, it was a hefty price.

I'm betting below average, which is why I don't like their draft. It's the type of move that can set back a franchise four years.

I agree, which is why I actually applaud Phil Savage for the move. All GMs should be looking to make their teams GREAT, yet so few try to keep slightly above the parity line and argue that "you just never know." Savage understands that the Browns need elite players to become a contender, and he went for it.He may be wrong, but hats off for having the balls to go for it.And realistically, if the Browns don't show improvement this year, Crennel is a goner and Savage may follow him out the door.

 

[Pickle Rody]

All GMs should be looking to make their teams GREAT, yet so few try to keep slightly above the parity line and argue that "you just never know." Savage understands that the Browns need elite players to become a contender, and he went for it.

Agree!

He may be wrong, but hats off for having the balls to go for it.And realistically, if the Browns don't show improvement this year, Crennel is a goner and Savage may follow him out the door.

Totally agree!

 

[hove]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

 

[Achon44]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

Top 3??? Seriously...

 

[428143]

Jerry Angelo always receives terrible grades the day after the draft, it really boggles the mind. Maybe he knows more than you, Mr. Sportswriter?

 

[LHUCKS]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

Top 3??? Seriously...

Top 10 for certain.

 

[Tyrion]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

I have to agree. I loved this trade for Dallas and Cleveland. If the Browns had not picked Brady they would probably have had to pick a QB with their first pick anyway. Why not get Brady now (probably as good as any they could get next year) and not have such a huge salary amount tied up with the pick? Brady being from Ohio makes it a great PR move as well.Dallas gets a top pick next season. With 2 picks they have a major advantage and they still got the guy they would have taken at 22. Win win. It also opened up a new trading relationship between the two owners. I can't believe all of the low grades for the Cowboys. Its almost as if they dont even take into consideration the extra #1. That #1 makes Dallas's draft at least a B. Add in the 2nd best pass rusher in the draft (maybe the best) and 2 top 5 Off Tackles and I love this draft. That full back is a special teams monster as well.

 

[patrickmcgroin]

Im not sure i get all the love for clevelands draft. sure things might plan out well with both brady quinn and joe thomas but what if the browns pick next year is #1?

If their pick next year is #1 then they'll have gotten their francise QB a year earlier and at a much lower price tag.

I have to agree. I loved this trade for Dallas and Cleveland. If the Browns had not picked Brady they would probably have had to pick a QB with their first pick anyway. Why not get Brady now (probably as good as any they could get next year) and not have such a huge salary amount tied up with the pick? Brady being from Ohio makes it a great PR move as well.Dallas gets a top pick next season. With 2 picks they have a major advantage and they still got the guy they would have taken at 22. Win win. It also opened up a new trading relationship between the two owners. I can't believe all of the low grades for the Cowboys. Its almost as if they dont even take into consideration the extra #1. That #1 makes Dallas's draft at least a B. Add in the 2nd best pass rusher in the draft (maybe the best) and 2 top 5 Off Tackles and I love this draft. That full back is a special teams monster as well.

I liked seeing Cleveland go for it, their fans deserve some excitement.

 

[Bevo]

Good Grief! Rick Gosselin gave the Titans an A. Is he the fashion editor for the Dallas Morning News?

 

[Pat Patriot]

Good Grief! Rick Gosselin gave the Titans an A. Is he the fashion editor for the Dallas Morning News?

Wow. He is the first one that I have seen even remotely like the Titans draft. How Chris Henry is not a reach in the 2nd round is beyond me.

 

[simmonjm]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

Top 3??? Seriously...

Have you looked at Clevelands schedule? Its not easy. I'm predicting 2-4 wins for them considering Quinn or Frye is going to be the QB

 

[Achon44]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

Top 3??? Seriously...

Have you looked at Clevelands schedule? Its not easy. I'm predicting 2-4 wins for them considering Quinn or Frye is going to be the QB

I hope you don't spend much time in Vegas.

 

[freeannyong]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

what is the difference between using next years top pick on a QB and using it on Quinn this year?

 

[think]

Mike O'Hara grades the NFL Draft

Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News

Carolina Panthers: B

They filled a need at linebacker with Jon Beason. Offensive coordinator Norm Chow got two of his former Southern Cal players from in the second round -- WR Dwayne Jarrett and C Ryan Kalil. LB Tim Shaw of Penn State was a fifth-round steal.

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There's alot of crap in all of these articles - but I still love to read them!

 

[Rogi]

Consensus draft grades:

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=2854030

 

[LHUCKS]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

what is the difference between using next years top pick on a QB and using it on Quinn this year?

they gave up a lot more than just next year's first rounder.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Consensus draft grades:

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=2854030

Nice pick up Rogi, I'll add it to the first post.....

 

[simmonjm]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

Top 3??? Seriously...

Have you looked at Clevelands schedule? Its not easy. I'm predicting 2-4 wins for them considering Quinn or Frye is going to be the QB

I hope you don't spend much time in Vegas.

September 9 PITTSBURGH STEELERS CBS 1 p.m. September 16 CINCINNATI BENGALS CBS 1 p.m.September 23 at Oakland Raiders CBS 4:05 p.m. September 30 BALTIMORE RAVENS CBS 4:05 p.m. October 7 at New England Patriots CBS 1 p.m. October 14 MIAMI DOLPHINS CBS 1 p.m. BYE WEEK October 28 at St. Louis Rams CBS 1 p.m. November 4 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS FOX 4:05 p.m. November 11 at Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. November 18 at Baltimore Ravens CBS 1 p.m. November 25 HOUSTON TEXANS CBS 1 p.m. December 2 at Arizona Cardinals CBS 4:05 p.m. December 9 at New York Jets CBS 4:15 p.m. December 16 BUFFALO BILLS CBS 1 p.m. December 23 at Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. December 30 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS FOX 1 p.m. Where do you see the wins coming from?

 

[Achon44]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

Top 3??? Seriously...

Have you looked at Clevelands schedule? Its not easy. I'm predicting 2-4 wins for them considering Quinn or Frye is going to be the QB

I hope you don't spend much time in Vegas.

September 9 PITTSBURGH STEELERS CBS 1 p.m. September 16 CINCINNATI BENGALS CBS 1 p.m.September 23 at Oakland Raiders CBS 4:05 p.m. September 30 BALTIMORE RAVENS CBS 4:05 p.m. October 7 at New England Patriots CBS 1 p.m. October 14 MIAMI DOLPHINS CBS 1 p.m. BYE WEEK October 28 at St. Louis Rams CBS 1 p.m. November 4 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS FOX 4:05 p.m. November 11 at Pittsburgh Steelers CBS 1 p.m. November 18 at Baltimore Ravens CBS 1 p.m. November 25 HOUSTON TEXANS CBS 1 p.m. December 2 at Arizona Cardinals CBS 4:05 p.m. December 9 at New York Jets CBS 4:15 p.m. December 16 BUFFALO BILLS CBS 1 p.m. December 23 at Cincinnati Bengals CBS 1 p.m. December 30 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS FOX 1 p.m. Where do you see the wins coming from?

Pittsburgh, Oakland, Miami, Houston, Arizona, Buffalo, Baltimore. I'm not guaranteeing they win all those games, but you can't guarantee the won't. There is no reason why they can't be 4-2 going into the bye.

 

[Achon44]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

what is the difference between using next years top pick on a QB and using it on Quinn this year?

they gave up a lot more than just next year's first rounder.

Okay, you said they pick top 10 next year, so let's consider it's 10. If the Browns had owned both the 3rd and 4th picks of the draft they would have taken Thomas and Quinn. It would take the 10th pick and the 36th pick to get the 4th pick. Who cares if they took him with the 22nd pick. The fact that they got him at 22 saved them money. I will agree it was an amazing trade for Dallas, but they should thank the Dolphins as much if not more then the Browns, because they passed on Quinn at 9.

 

[Faust]

 

[davearm]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

what is the difference between using next years top pick on a QB and using it on Quinn this year?

they gave up a lot more than just next year's first rounder.

Here are the advantages from CLE's perspective, assuming that if they hadn't made this deal, they would've spent their '08 first-rounder on a QB instead of having Quinn in the fold already.* They pay #22 money instead of top 10 (or top 5) money.* They get a known commodity, rather than playing wait-and-see on what's available next year... the best available QB next April might not be as good as Quinn.* They get the guy integrated into their system and the league a year early.* They get the marketability angle of the local kid.Those are all valuable considerations.Now whether they collectively exceed the value of the second rounder they also dealt away is open for discussion. I happen to think it is.

 

[LHUCKS]

I personally can't believe the Browns are getting high marks. Joe Thomas was a no brainer at #2 IMHO, and they gave way too much up for Quinn IMHO.

I totally agree. That top-3 pick going to the Cowboys next year is going to be costly.

what is the difference between using next years top pick on a QB and using it on Quinn this year?

they gave up a lot more than just next year's first rounder.

Here are the advantages from CLE's perspective, assuming that if they hadn't made this deal, they would've spent their '08 first-rounder on a QB instead of having Quinn in the fold already.* They pay #22 money instead of top 10 (or top 5) money.* They get a known commodity, rather than playing wait-and-see on what's available next year... the best available QB next April might not be as good as Quinn.* They get the guy integrated into their system and the league a year early.* They get the marketability angle of the local kid.Those are all valuable considerations.Now whether they collectively exceed the value of the second rounder they also dealt away is open for discussion. I happen to think it is.

All good points, I guess I just don't think the kid is going to be very good...but I know a lot of NFL scouts disagree so it's a wait and see I guess.