Vernon Davis (1 Viewer)

[Chunky Soup]

Searching through the SP, I've seen many high opinions on Vernon Davis. I saw some highlights in college and he looks to be an absolute stud. I actually just took him in a dynasty draft pretty much because he fell late to me. Otherwise, I wouldn't have taken the shot.

My concern is how much people are buying into him. I read things such as "he's the next Gates", "OMgz he looked like Gates when healthy last year", "will be a stud TE for quite some time". My question is, why do we think this? His reception totals last year, in order of highest->lowest are: 5,4,3,3,3,1,1. He did have a 91 and 74 yard game, and otherwise under 37. He played in 10 games, and his totals were 20 rec, 265 yards, and 3 TDs. This was on 42 targets.

I know he's a freak at 6'3", 253 and can run sub 4.40 40, but since when did measurables decide stud-factor? Will he have opportunity? Can he translate ACC football to NFL? He hasn't exactly proved that yet.

I like him, but maybe not as much as the next guy. Can you take me off the ledge and convince me how much of a stud he is?

 

[nygiants56]

I can't name another receiver on the 9ers V.Davis will get plenty of action...

the only problem is ,this team has a first year OC calling plays..I know he came from within the system, but he used to be QB's coach,now he controls the entire offense..thats a major adjustment..

40 catches seems reasonable this year, maybe 60 in 2008..

 

[Warpig]

He may just be stuck in a bad offense.

We'll have to wait and see how Nolan or whomever the OC is utilize him. Now they also have Darrell Jackson clamoring for receptions.

Sure, he's a physical freak, but it all depends on the offensive philosophy.

 

[Da Guru]

He may just be stuck in a bad offense. We'll have to wait and see how Nolan or whomever the OC is utilize him. Now they also have Darrell Jackson clamoring for receptions.Sure, he's a physical freak, but it all depends on the offensive philosophy.

Davis has all the tools that is for sure.

 

[Chunky Soup]

FWIW, between all of the dynasty drafts going on on this message board, Davis has been going between rounds 4 and 6. Mostly in 4-5 range, and often in front of Shockey.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I can't name another receiver on the 9ers V.Davis will get plenty of action...

You never heard of Darrell Jackson, Ashley Lelie, Jason Hill, Arnaz Battle?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

 

[Pictus Cat]

I took V. Davis 5.11 in SSL2 16 teams PPR after Gates, Gonzo, Heap, Shockey (who I would have passed on.) Maybe another TE or 2 before the slippery slope/cliff. Davis seemed the last one left with a shot at greatness in 07 too.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I like him, but maybe not as much as the next guy. Can you take me off the ledge and convince me how much of a stud he is?

No, we can't. Davis himself will have to do that on the playing field. All we can do is share our opinions of him based on what we saw in college and glimpses of his NFL career so far. You either gamble on him and reap the rewards on what looks like good be a very solid career or you pass on a player that you may think has all the physical tools to be a great player but they could just go to waste.In redrafts, I probably won't draft him.

 

[Sabertooth]

He's going go down in the history books as a bust.

Mike Mamula style!

 

[derek19]

There are reports out of the 49ers camp that the new OC wants to get VD more involved in the offense. Having him lineup in the different WR positions to create mismatches with smaller DB's. Of course when he lines up as a TE, it will already be a mismatch with the slower LB covering him...

Of course, this is what the OC wants, we'll have to wait and see if it actually happens...

 

[KING]

if they both stay healthy, gore, and djax will get theirs. probably around 130. lelie, away from vick, might return to at least what he did in denver.

i think it's at least a year early to be spending a 4th or 5th round pick on davis in a redraft. i want to see him catch 60 passes 1st, before i draft him as such.

dynasty is a little different, sometimes you have to go with your gut, and hope for the best.

 

[kensat30]

The guy got open almost at will during his rookie season (when healthy). But he did have the occassional drop, and by occasional I mean a lot. That could be the fatal flaw to his game. The guy has more potential than any other TE in the league, just based on him running like a WR and getting open so easily.

If the guy could catch like Gates, I could very well see him producing like Gates. There is a big need for a pass catching TE in the 49er's WR poor offense (see Eric Johnson '05). And if you think San Fran is going to the playoffs this year or come close even, I think you have to mark down Davis for at least top10 if not top5 numbers, because we will need him to produce to win games.

Dynasty, I would be all over this guy simply because there are so few difference makers at TE out there. This guy is one of the few who has a chance to become a difference maker. For redraft, I think he is well worth the gamble as the 7-10 TE off the board, don't know if he will last that long though.

 

[dudaman]

The guy got open almost at will during his rookie season (when healthy). But he did have the occassional drop, and by occasional I mean a lot. That could be the fatal flaw to his game. The guy has more potential than any other TE in the league, just based on him running like a WR and getting open so easily.

If the guy could catch like Gates, I could very well see him producing like Gates. There is a big need for a pass catching TE in the 49er's WR poor offense (see Eric Johnson '05). And if you think San Fran is going to the playoffs this year or come close even, I think you have to mark down Davis for at least top10 if not top5 numbers, because we will need him to produce to win games.

Dynasty, I would be all over this guy simply because there are so few difference makers at TE out there. This guy is one of the few who has a chance to become a difference maker. For redraft, I think he is well worth the gamble as the 7-10 TE off the board, don't know if he will last that long though.

Daniel Graham suffered from the dropsies when he came in as a rookie. He ended up being a very consistent end zone threat.Players can be coached on things like focus (read: catching the ball)... If you focus on his tangibles and assume he will correct the drops, you have a stud-in-waiting.

 

[FTRWRTR]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Usually your word is gospel to me but I have to disagree. Vernon davis has the talent to be a stud but I think he may have been a workout wonder. I mean why wasn't a guy with his size, speed and athleticism dominant in college? He couldn't even put up 900 yards in a season and it's not like maryland had a bunch of studs at wr. Plus now he's on a team with djax and lelie. I just don't see him living up to the hype

 

[darmani]

He's talented enough to put up some big numbers when the gameplan and matchups are right, but I don't think he'll put up consistent numbers worthy of drafting him before round 9 or so.

 

[Two Deep]

I feel like he is going to be injury prone. Look at the original "Freak" Javon Kearse and David Boston, these guys with the extremly low body fat that are wound tight just seem to battle injuries more. Maybe their wound so tight they lack the flexibility to bend instead of break.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Usually your word is gospel to me but I have to disagree. Vernon davis has the talent to be a stud but I think he may have been a workout wonder. I mean why wasn't a guy with his size, speed and athleticism dominant in college? He couldn't even put up 900 yards in a season and it's not like maryland had a bunch of studs at wr. Plus now he's on a team with djax and lelie. I just don't see him living up to the hype

FWIW, take a look at previous top TE prospects and look at their college stats. Davis' stats were top notch.Vernon Davis (Maryland): Drafted 1.062004: 10 games, 27 rec. 441 yds 3 TDs2005: 11 games, 51 rec. 871 yds 6 TDsJeremy Shockey (Miami): Drafted 1.142001: 11 games, 40 rec. 519 yds 7TDsKellen Winslow: drafted 1.062002: 13 games, 57 rec. 726 yards 8 TDs2003: 13 games, 60 rec. 605 yards, 1 TDDallas Clark (Iowa): Drafted 1.242001: 11 games 34 rec 509 yds 4 TDs2002: 12 games 43 rec 742 yds 4 TDsHeath Miller (Virginia): Drafted 1.30.2002: 13 games, 33 rec 327 yards 9 TDs2003: 13 games 70 rec 835 yards 6 TDs2004: 11 games 41 rec 541 yards 5 TDs

 

[LHUCKS]

He is the perfect buy-low candidate.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Usually your word is gospel to me but I have to disagree. Vernon davis has the talent to be a stud but I think he may have been a workout wonder. I mean why wasn't a guy with his size, speed and athleticism dominant in college? He couldn't even put up 900 yards in a season and it's not like maryland had a bunch of studs at wr. Plus now he's on a team with djax and lelie. I just don't see him living up to the hype

In 2005, he was a first team all-american, he led his team in catches, and led the ACC in receiving yards (that includes WRs).I think that qualifies as dominant.

 

[Lash]

He couldn't even put up 900 yards in a season

dude hardly no TE put up 900 in a COLLEGE season12/13 games, 900 would be other worldy for a TE in a major conference

 

[hacman]

For Vernon, it’s all about his hands. He’s not a natural in that department. If he isn’t motivated, he will become the next Ricky Dudley. However, motivation doesn’t appear to be an issue. He came in last year as a better blocker than anticipated and has a desire to work hard that goes back to high school.

These tidbits are culled from the past couple of days from Matt Maiocco’s blog & a chat session with 49er fans:

5/5 Mini-camp notes from last weekend:

--TE Vernon Davis looked a lot like last season. The guy makes some plays, as he did in a red-zone session. And when he makes a play, he likes to chirp to the defenders. But then he heard plenty about it in return when he dropped a couple passes.

5/7/ Chat Transcripts:

Bryan49ers asks: Concerning Vernon Davis -- I keep reading camp reports about how Davis struts and celebrates every time he does something right and then proceeds to drop passes. Do you think Davis has the desire to work hard to be successful or will he under-achieve because he thinks he's already so great?

Matt Maiocco: I think he has plenty of desire. It was interesting to watch him last year spend more and more time on his pass-catching as the year went on (catching balls from the machine after practice). I think he's young and emotional. I think he's a tremendous talent and will eventually learn to harness all his ability.

DavidFucillo asks: Has Nolan considered utilizing Vernon Davis in the backfield to create matchup problems?

Matt Maiocco: Absolutely. He might not run plays at fullback, but he will certainly line up all over the field throughout this season.

bigwads asks: Matt, I see our new offensive coordinator is trying to be more creative in getting Vernon Davis, Dalanie Walker, etc. involved this year. What do you think Jim Hostler will do differently?

Matt Maiocco: Well, I'm not sure Vernon and Delanie were ever on the field together last season. Those two together would certainly cause matchup problems.

thefuture asks: It seems Vernon Davis has taken on this superman persona since he's entered the NFL. For a guy with 20 career receptions do you think he's become a little full of himself? I don't want a Jerramy Stevens on our hands.

Matt Maiocco: Vernon Davis plays with a chip on his shoulder, no question. He's very confident ... and then some. But I wouldn't put him in that Jerramy Stevens category.

 

[Lash]

2005: 11 games, 51 rec. 871 yds 6 TDs

average that out over 16...16 games, 74 rec. 1266 yds 9 TDs

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

bigwads asks: Matt, I see our new offensive coordinator is trying to be more creative in getting Vernon Davis, Dalanie Walker, etc. involved this year. What do you think Jim Hostler will do differently?

Matt Maiocco: Well, I'm not sure Vernon and Delanie were ever on the field together last season. Those two together would certainly cause matchup problems.

Anyone who saw Walker take over a preseason game last year knows this kid has talent. I would love to see what he and Davis can do in 2 TE sets, or sets where one is an inline TE and the other is an H-back or split out wide.

 

[hacman]

bigwads asks: Matt, I see our new offensive coordinator is trying to be more creative in getting Vernon Davis, Dalanie Walker, etc. involved this year. What do you think Jim Hostler will do differently?

Matt Maiocco: Well, I'm not sure Vernon and Delanie were ever on the field together last season. Those two together would certainly cause matchup problems.

Anyone who saw Walker take over a preseason game last year knows this kid has talent. I would love to see what he and Davis can do in 2 TE sets, or sets where one is an inline TE and the other is an H-back or split out wide.

Agreed. I would love to see Delanie Walker pick up some of the slack in that offense. He's explosive.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I can't name another receiver on the 9ers V.Davis will get plenty of action...

You never heard of Darrell Jackson, Ashley Lelie, Jason Hill, Arnaz Battle?

OMG you've never heard of Jason Hill!?!?!

 

[kensat30]

bigwads asks: Matt, I see our new offensive coordinator is trying to be more creative in getting Vernon Davis, Dalanie Walker, etc. involved this year. What do you think Jim Hostler will do differently?

Matt Maiocco: Well, I'm not sure Vernon and Delanie were ever on the field together last season. Those two together would certainly cause matchup problems.

Anyone who saw Walker take over a preseason game last year knows this kid has talent. I would love to see what he and Davis can do in 2 TE sets, or sets where one is an inline TE and the other is an H-back or split out wide.

It was real easy to let go of Eric Johnson knowing what we have in Delanie. I just wished he would have gotten in more reps last year. With the way Davis is developing as a blocker, Delanie could become a threat in the passing game in 2 TE sets.Davis is truly an every down TE though. At a recent minicamp, Davis shutdown Manny Lawson with his blocking so badly, that Lawson took off his shirt and told him he could keep it (as if he was being held).

 

[Kleck.]

He is the perfect buy-low candidate.

What have you seen owners able to get him for?

 

[LHUCKS]

He is the perfect buy-low candidate.

What have you seen owners able to get him for?

Dynasty leagues have so many variables I doubt this conversation is really worth having, but I know I'd go after him agressively. I remember a reception he made against the Cardinals where he he basically outran everybody accept for the safety(who had an angle on him)...he's the fastest TE after the catch that I've ever seen.I think he's the most physically gifted TE in the history of pro football and believe he'll be Smith's #1 option for most of the season...that's a nice combo.

 

[Assani Fisher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZsg8EJQb4

 

[ILUVBEER99]

The only reason he's gonna be affordable this year is because he was injured last season.

The guys a beast and as others have said above he's the best TE after the catch in the NFL already.

 

[pettifogger]

He had a strained calf then a hairline left fibula fracture last year that limited him to 10 games. Assuming he's healthy this year, and with Eric Johnson gone, you have to assume that his production this year will increase dramatically.

 

[DevilDog919]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZsg8EJQb4

Not only is he a freak, but looks like he loves the game also from some of his youtube clips. His interviews and love of art also say he is a pretty intelligent man. That's always a plus in my mind.God-given talent + wanting to be the best attitude + intellgence=STUD

His hands may not be the best, but neither are Terrell Owens'.

 

[hooptd]

I just got him at 4.11, 53rd overall in a start up dynasty league (14 teams) that awards 2 ppr for TE. I think he could be quite a steal considering Gates went at 10 overall.

 

[Driver]

He is the perfect buy-low candidate.

What have you seen owners able to get him for?

Dynasty leagues have so many variables I doubt this conversation is really worth having, but I know I'd go after him agressively. I remember a reception he made against the Cardinals where he he basically outran everybody accept for the safety(who had an angle on him)...he's the fastest TE after the catch that I've ever seen.I think he's the most physically gifted TE in the history of pro football and believe he'll be Smith's #1 option for most of the season...that's a nice combo.

In recent initial dynasty drafts (12 team leagues including rookies), he's been going in the 5th or early 6th rounds -- I got him at 5.07 over the weekend.Gates has averaged 88 VBD pts the past 3 years. The only TE to exceed this level of production was Kellen Winslow (I) who averaged 104 VBD pts over a 4-year period from 1980 to 1983.

With only one year in the league and his injury last year, Davis doesn't have a demonstrated track record. But his potential and upside are extremely high, IMO.

I probably overpaid somewhat to take him at 5.07, but I was fairly sure that he would be gone by my next pick. I wanted him and was happy to get him where I did.

If he can post TE4-TE6 results this year, and improve consistently to TE1-TE3 levels for several years, I'll be very happy. OTOH, he could suffer a career-ending injury tomorrow.

 

[Ducegonads]

CLICK - KLACK!!!

 

[-jb-]

one thing that hasn't been mentioned:

the condition of the offensive line will have a significant effect on VD's performance this year. if they can't protect smith, he will be blocking, not catching. I honestly don't know how improved the line is this year, but it's definitely going to be a factor.

 

[Driver]

... i think it's at least a year early to be spending a 4th or 5th round pick on davis in a redraft. i want to see him catch 60 passes 1st, before i draft him as such.

dynasty is a little different, sometimes you have to go with your gut, and hope for the best.

... Dynasty, I would be all over this guy simply because there are so few difference makers at TE out there. This guy is one of the few who has a chance to become a difference maker. ...

I agree 100% with the parts bolded above. In dynasty, you're going to have to spend a 5th round pick if you want to take a chance on a potential uber-stud. Even without a demonstrated track record, that's a good risk/reward ratio for Davis IMO. His career may very well turn out to be less than generally expected at this point, and it may take another year or two before he hits his prime. However, his potential upside is so large that I'm willing to pay the market price right now to get him on my dynasty team.

 

[thayman]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Usually your word is gospel to me but I have to disagree. Vernon davis has the talent to be a stud but I think he may have been a workout wonder. I mean why wasn't a guy with his size, speed and athleticism dominant in college? He couldn't even put up 900 yards in a season and it's not like maryland had a bunch of studs at wr. Plus now he's on a team with djax and lelie. I just don't see him living up to the hype

You obviously never watched any Maryland games. He was about as dominant as player can be, plowing over DBs and LBs.

 

[Young 8]

I can't name another receiver on the 9ers V.Davis will get plenty of action...

You never heard of Darrell Jackson, Ashley Lelie, Jason Hill, Arnaz Battle?

heyhe's a giant fan, what do you expect ??

 

[CalBear]

Upside: Ricky Dudley

Downside: Teyo Johnson

 

[Gottabesweet]

He better be; I don't plan on taking a TE in 4 rounds this year. I already have V. Davis, Heath Miller, Owen Daniels

 

[FTRWRTR]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Usually your word is gospel to me but I have to disagree. Vernon davis has the talent to be a stud but I think he may have been a workout wonder. I mean why wasn't a guy with his size, speed and athleticism dominant in college? He couldn't even put up 900 yards in a season and it's not like maryland had a bunch of studs at wr. Plus now he's on a team with djax and lelie. I just don't see him living up to the hyp

In 2005, he was a first team all-american, he led his team in catches, and led the ACC in receiving yards (that includes WRs).I think that qualifies as dominant.

2005: 11 games, 51 rec. 871 yds 6 TDs

average that out over 16...16 games, 74 rec. 1266 yds 9 TDs

I stand corrected

 

[derek19]

Upside: Ricky DudleyDownside: Teyo Johnson

I'm surprised it took you this long....

 

[Jason Wood]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Agreed. In Davis' return from injury, he went for 15 recs/ 228 yards/ 2 TDs in six games. Projecting that over a full 16-game season implies 40 receptions for 608 yards and 5 TDs.Based on FBG scoring, that would give Davis 91 fantasy points.

That would've put Davis' fantasy TE ranking at:

2006 -- TE9
2005 -- TE8
2004 -- TE9
2003 -- TE3
2002 -- TE5
5-Year Average -- TE7When you layer in his age, his experience [most players improve from Year One to Year Two], and his health...it looks to me like you have a baseline top 8 fantasy TE with MUCH higher upside.

 

[derek19]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Agreed. In Davis' return from injury, he went for 15 recs/ 228 yards/ 2 TDs in six games. Projecting that over a full 16-game season implies 40 receptions for 608 yards and 5 TDs.Based on FBG scoring, that would give Davis 91 fantasy points.

That would've put Davis' fantasy TE ranking at:

2006 -- TE9
2005 -- TE8
2004 -- TE9
2003 -- TE3
2002 -- TE5
5-Year Average -- TE7When you layer in his age, his experience [most players improve from Year One to Year Two], and his health...it looks to me like you have a baseline top 8 fantasy TE with MUCH higher upside.

 

[5Rings]

one thing that hasn't been mentioned:the condition of the offensive line will have a significant effect on VD's performance this year. if they can't protect smith, he will be blocking, not catching. I honestly don't know how improved the line is this year, but it's definitely going to be a factor.

I disagree.As bad as Kwame Harris was last year--and it was pretty fn bad--VD didn't stay in to block at all. I don't see this as a factor at all.

 

[John Mamula]

Searching through the SP, I've seen many high opinions on Vernon Davis. I saw some highlights in college and he looks to be an absolute stud. I actually just took him in a dynasty draft pretty much because he fell late to me. Otherwise, I wouldn't have taken the shot. My concern is how much people are buying into him. I read things such as "he's the next Gates", "OMgz he looked like Gates when healthy last year", "will be a stud TE for quite some time". My question is, why do we think this? His reception totals last year, in order of highest->lowest are: 5,4,3,3,3,1,1. He did have a 91 and 74 yard game, and otherwise under 37. He played in 10 games, and his totals were 20 rec, 265 yards, and 3 TDs. This was on 42 targets.I know he's a freak at 6'3", 253 and can run sub 4.40 40, but since when did measurables decide stud-factor? Will he have opportunity? Can he translate ACC football to NFL? He hasn't exactly proved that yet.I like him, but maybe not as much as the next guy. Can you take me off the ledge and convince me how much of a stud he is?

I am going to try and get VD every chance I can this summer.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I think its clear he's going to be the most dangerous TE in the league once the ball is in his hands (he probably is already). The main question, as others have pointed out, is how much will the Niners make an effort to get him the ball? He was the #6 overall pick, and imo, chosen to become Smith's main target, the way teams usually take a stud WR prospect the year after taking their franchise QB. I expect him to blow up to top 3 TE level, but it might not happen this year if his development was slowed by his injury last year + I think the TEs go 7 deep very nicely this year.

Usually your word is gospel to me but I have to disagree. Vernon davis has the talent to be a stud but I think he may have been a workout wonder. I mean why wasn't a guy with his size, speed and athleticism dominant in college? He couldn't even put up 900 yards in a season and it's not like maryland had a bunch of studs at wr. Plus now he's on a team with djax and lelie. I just don't see him living up to the hype

You obviously never watched any Maryland games. He was about as dominant as player can be, plowing over DBs and LBs.

Agreed. While he had a couple of issues that made me nervous (drops, alligator arms at times), he was a man among boys in college. His stats are stellar for a college TE. But, for those who think the numbers don't look all that good, keep in mind that MD's QBs weren't named Elway or Marino; they were college-average at best and below par often. Davis literally carried the team on his back in many games. I don't know what the youtube clips posted above shows, but go find the Clemson game from his final season for some nice highlights.As for Davis in the pros, all of the tools are there to be a monster. I think he's got the work ethic & smarts to realize his potential. I'd take him top 3 in dynasty leagues (really, probably second behind Gates) & definitely top 10 in redrafts. His numbers pro-rate out decently for a rookie & I only see them going up.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I am going to try and get VD every chance I can this summer.