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VERY Challenging League Needs 2 Owners (1 Viewer)

LoneWolf1023

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Hey Folks,

My flagship league, the Ultimate Owner FF League, needs 2 new owners. This league is very challenging and requires owners who can put a lot of time and effort into it. It's most definitely not one of those draft the players, set a lineup each week and forget it kind of leagues. Aka most leagues.

Here's some basics about the league then I'll get into what makes the league so hard to win.

Link to the league: http://www17.myfantasyleague.com/2011/home/14098#0

Link to the League Bylaws Page: http://football17.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=14098&O=26

12 teams

League fee is $50. All league fees minus the $60 site fee are paid out.

14 player rosters

Starting lineups are 2 QB's, 2 RB's, 4 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 K's and 2 Def's. So yes, that's right, EVERY player on your roster is a starter.

Waivers run 5 times a week. There's a reason for this. lol

The waiver order is set on a rolling basis. Meaning that every time you complete a waiver transaction, you move to the back of the order.

Trading is allowed up until the week 11 games.

Our draft is currently scheduled to start on Sunday, August 14th at 12 noon. I can adjust that a little bit if necessary.

We will be using a 12 hour timer and the draft order is done in a serpentine manner. BTW The draft order has NOT been set yet.

Okay, now for why this league is so hard to win.

Well, as I stated above, each team has a 14 player roster, and every player on your team is a starter. But wait you say, what about bye weeks???

Well, in this league, you MUST drop each player on your roster during the week leading up to their bye week. What's that mean? Well, Jamaal Charles has a week 6 bye week. So that means that once the week 5 games have been completed, you will have from Tuesday morning until Sunday morning to drop Charles and replace him with another RB. DeSean Jackson has a week 7 bye, so he must be dropped and another WR picked up during the week leading up to the week 7 games. There are NO exceptions to this.

Also, an owner CANNOT keep a player on his roster who is on a bye. Since each owner must have a full starting lineup of non-bye week players, you HAVE to drop each player before his bye. Again, no exceptions. Any owner who has a player on their roster come Sunday morning, that has a bye week that weekend, will have that player dropped from their roster and they will get zero points and a loss.

OUCH you say. Well yes, it sucks, but it's the nature of the league. As I said above, we have 5 different waiver periods each week and you can pick up 2 players during each waivers period. So you have plenty of time to do that. Plus, with only 14 players on each roster, and 6 of them being TE's, K's and Def's, there are plenty of players you can replace said player with.

This league makes you have to work for every win you get. You have to plan out a draft strategy that you think will set you up to be able to pick up the best players once they come off their bye. Because players become available again on the Tuesday after their bye week. So obviously you want to be at the top of the waiver order by then. A lot of teams try to take players that have the latest bye weeks. That way they can get to the top of the waiver order then pick up those top players.

You also have to be careful when you do your waivers. You want to do them in such a way that you are at the top of the order on the Tuesday after the week 9 games run. Why? Because that's when Adrian Peterson comes off his bye. You want to be at the top of the order after the week 11 because that's when Andre Johnson comes off his bye week. You want to be at the top of the order after the week 8 games because that's when Aaron Rodgers comes off his bye. Obviously you're not going to do that every week, but you want to be as high in the waiver order as you can because there are usually quite a few quality players available each week.

So as you can see, there is a lot of strategizing that goes on in this league. You have to be on your toes each and every week. Starting with the draft and all the way through the season. If you win this league, you've EARNED that League Champions money. Which, BTW in 5 years of running this league, we've never had a team make the league championship game 2 years in a row. it's just too hard to do. lol

Anyway, if anyone is interested in taking on the challenge of playing in this league, please send an email to LoneWolf1023@aol.com. I know this league seems strange, but it's really a LOT of fun. Once you play it, you'll get hooked on it. :) BTW Make sure you mention the Ultimate Owner FF League when you send that email.

Thanks.

 
Hmmm I'm starting to think that maybe I made this league sound too hard. Not getting to many bites on the 2 spots available. LOL

I know it's a strange way to play FF, but believe me folks, once you play, you'll get hooked.

It's all about strategy. Can you come up with a plan that will help you win games each week while also ensuring that you're at or near the top of the waiver order each week so that you can pick up the top players when they come off their byes?

Well, I hope that maybe that will entice 2 people to a shot at this league. You won't be disappointed. Well, okay, if you suck at it, then maybe you will, but you'll still have fun while you're doing that. lol

 
It's more probably the fact that you've posted about 3-5 leagues in here and are an unfamiliar name in the forums and aren't using LeagueSafe when there's really no reason at all not to.

It's been a recipe for disaster in the past and a lot of guys are just not going to touch a league with a random internet person they don't know without using LeagueSafe. Not meant to be a #### here, just letting you know. This is exactly how it all started when folks started to get burned years ago. Every one of those guys that ran off with the money gave the same run down about how honest and trustworthy they are and how they have references and it didn't matter in the end. LeagueSafe is there, it's free, and there's no reason to not use it really.

 
My friend,

You raise some valid points, and I can understand the reasoning why some people would prefer that I use Leaguesafe, but here's the biggest reasons why I don't:

A) I run a total of 25 leagues. If I wasn't so organized, it would be hell trying to keep up with that many leagues. Adding Leaguesafe to every single one of them only adds a ton of additional work for me. I'd have to get each and every one of them setup on that site. I'd then have to monitor that site constantly to see who has paid what for which league. Then at the end of the season, I'd have to make sure that they pay everything out to the correct people. That's a ton of extra work that I don't feel I need to add to my work load. I already have everything extremely ordganized and keep everything up to date. So I don't feel I need to add that to my list of things to do.

B) They don't take paypal as a means to pay league fees. The vast majority of my owners pay their league fees via Paypal. If I told them that they now had to pay Leaguesafe those fees, without being able to use Paypal to do so, a lot of them wouldn't be very happy. Why? Because they KNOW their money is safe with me. Now if leaguesafe would ever get off their asses and accept paypal as a means to pay league fees, then that would make things a LOT easier, and I'd be more inclinded to move everything over there.

C) I ran a total of 20 leagues last year. I paid out over $11,000 in prize money. EVERY single owner who earned a prize, received their money within 2 weeks of the end of the regular season. Faster if they wanted it via Paypal. Anyone who wants to question this, can send me an email and I'll have a bunch of them email you about how quickly they received their money.

D) Finally, I'm not some fly by night person who's posting a few leagues. I have my main league page, which can be seen here http://theultimateownerfantasyfootballleagues.com/. As you can see, I run a bunch of leagues and I run every single one of them in a fun, fair and competitive manner. I work my ### off to run the best leagues I can run. The only way people don't enjoy my leagues, if they draft a crappy team and lose. I can't help that. I can only give them the best league I can.

BTW I am giving some consideration to moving all of my leagues to Leaguesafe to start next season, but it's going to be up to my owners on whether or not I do that. If they prefer to leave things as they are, then I will do that. If the vast majority want me to move things over to Leaguesafe AND I'm not going to lose a bunch of owners because of that, then I will do that.

One other thing, I only post on this board about leagues or teams I have for sale. I don't post on any of the other boards because I just don't have time to mess with that. I would much rather pay attention to my leagues then worry about posting on message boards about peoples starting lineups etc. My leagues are more important then that.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in this league, and you want to talk to some of the winners from last year, from this league or any other league, please email me and I will give you all of the email addresses you want. Hell, join the league and send out emails to every owner in the league. If what they have to say about how I do things doesn't make you happy, then you can always quit the league.

Thanks for pointing out that stuff and thanks for allowing me a few moments to explain myself to you. :)

 
So what is in it for you to run all these leagues for essentially free, if all the league fees are paid out?

That is a lot of work to do for no pay... :confused:

 
My friend,

You raise some valid points, and I can understand the reasoning why some people would prefer that I use Leaguesafe, but here's the biggest reasons why I don't:

A) I run a total of 25 leagues. If I wasn't so organized, it would be hell trying to keep up with that many leagues. Adding Leaguesafe to every single one of them only adds a ton of additional work for me. I'd have to get each and every one of them setup on that site. I'd then have to monitor that site constantly to see who has paid what for which league. Then at the end of the season, I'd have to make sure that they pay everything out to the correct people. That's a ton of extra work that I don't feel I need to add to my work load. I already have everything extremely ordganized and keep everything up to date. So I don't feel I need to add that to my list of things to do.

B) They don't take paypal as a means to pay league fees. The vast majority of my owners pay their league fees via Paypal. If I told them that they now had to pay Leaguesafe those fees, without being able to use Paypal to do so, a lot of them wouldn't be very happy. Why? Because they KNOW their money is safe with me. Now if leaguesafe would ever get off their asses and accept paypal as a means to pay league fees, then that would make things a LOT easier, and I'd be more inclinded to move everything over there.

C) I ran a total of 20 leagues last year. I paid out over $11,000 in prize money. EVERY single owner who earned a prize, received their money within 2 weeks of the end of the regular season. Faster if they wanted it via Paypal. Anyone who wants to question this, can send me an email and I'll have a bunch of them email you about how quickly they received their money.

D) Finally, I'm not some fly by night person who's posting a few leagues. I have my main league page, which can be seen here http://theultimateownerfantasyfootballleagues.com/. As you can see, I run a bunch of leagues and I run every single one of them in a fun, fair and competitive manner. I work my ### off to run the best leagues I can run. The only way people don't enjoy my leagues, if they draft a crappy team and lose. I can't help that. I can only give them the best league I can.

BTW I am giving some consideration to moving all of my leagues to Leaguesafe to start next season, but it's going to be up to my owners on whether or not I do that. If they prefer to leave things as they are, then I will do that. If the vast majority want me to move things over to Leaguesafe AND I'm not going to lose a bunch of owners because of that, then I will do that.

One other thing, I only post on this board about leagues or teams I have for sale. I don't post on any of the other boards because I just don't have time to mess with that. I would much rather pay attention to my leagues then worry about posting on message boards about peoples starting lineups etc. My leagues are more important then that.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in this league, and you want to talk to some of the winners from last year, from this league or any other league, please email me and I will give you all of the email addresses you want. Hell, join the league and send out emails to every owner in the league. If what they have to say about how I do things doesn't make you happy, then you can always quit the league.

Thanks for pointing out that stuff and thanks for allowing me a few moments to explain myself to you. :)
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It's all good.

If people are not comfortable joining my leagues because I don't use leaguesafe, that's their right. They're missing out on a great league, but that's their choice.

I'll continue to post my leagues here because I've recruited a bunch of great owners from this site. They're all very happy with my leagues and perfectly comfortable with the fact I don't use leaguesafe.

So it's all good.

Good luck to everyone in whatever leagues you join or play in this year.

 
Only one spot left in this great league Folks. If you want a chance to really test yourself, send me an email ASAP and get your spot in the league. :)

 
Still looking for that final owner for this great league. Take on the challenge and see if you can come up with a strategy that's good enough to help you win this league. :)

 
Well, in this league, you MUST drop each player on your roster during the week leading up to their bye week. What's that mean?. . .Also, an owner CANNOT keep a player on his roster who is on a bye. Since each owner must have a full starting lineup of non-bye week players, you HAVE to drop each player before his bye. Again, no exceptions.
I have no interest in your league, but I do have a question. How do you handle the situation where a player is traded (or cut and acquired) from an NFL team that hasn't had their BYE week yet to an NFL team that has already had their BYE, such as the Randy Moss movement last year? As I recall, Moss had no bye week in 2010 due to the timing of his movement amongst multiple teams. Did the Moss owner in your league never have to drop Moss ?
 
I have no interest in your league, but I do have a question.

How do you handle the situation where a player is traded (or cut and acquired) from an NFL team that hasn't had their BYE week yet to an NFL team that has already had their BYE, such as the Randy Moss movement last year? As I recall, Moss had no bye week in 2010 due to the timing of his movement amongst multiple teams.

Did the Moss owner in your league never have to drop Moss ?

Well, to answer your question, according to the rules, a player has to be dropped during the week prior to his bye week. So if Moss did not end up having a bye week because of his being dropped by the Patriots and subsequent pickup by the Titans, then according to those rules, he would never have had to be dropped since, as you stated, he never had a bye week.

Unfortunately, that's a small loop hole in the rules. However, this league is already confusing enough for new owners. So I chose not to add anything about it. It's just cleaner to leave the rules as they are.

Remember, as much as we all would like to be able to do it, you can't account for every single strange twist that happens during a football season. It's like back when the hurricane went through NO's and the surrounding states. It royally sucked that such a thing happened to those people, but who would have thought to account for the fallout from that in their leagues rules? And that created major confusion in this league because of the missed games by those teams. :(

Anyway, thanks for asking about that. It was a curious situation. :)

 

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