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VERY early Antsports ADP results: (1 Viewer)

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I know, this is waaayyyy early, but I'm bored and would love to hear what sharks think of the following ADP results:

Start Date : 2006-04-28 Finish Date : 2006-05-19Info : 12 ANY HP Flex-TE-Req Only-Serious-Mocks First Name Last Name Pos Team ADP High Low StandardDeviation Drafts 1. Larry Johnson RB KCC 1.01.14 1.01 1.02 00.38 7 2. Shaun Alexander RB SEA 1.02.13 1.01 1.03 00.64 8 3. LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDC 1.02.57 1.01 1.03 00.79 7 4. Clinton Portis RB WAS 1.04.88 1.04 1.07 00.99 8 5. Edgerrin James RB IND 1.05.33 1.04 1.07 01.21 6 6. Tiki Barber RB NYG 1.05.50 1.04 1.09 01.60 8 7. LaMont Jordan RB OAK 1.07.17 1.06 1.10 01.47 6 8. Steven Jackson RB STL 1.09.50 1.08 1.12 01.60 8 9. Willis McGahee RB BUF 1.10.00 1.06 2.05 03.63 8 10. Peyton Manning QB IND 1.10.25 1.04 2.08 04.68 8 11. Rudi Johnson RB CIN 1.10.86 1.08 2.03 02.27 7 12. Brian Westbrook RB PHI 2.01.75 1.08 2.07 03.85 8 13. Domanick Davis RB HOU 2.02.75 1.12 2.05 01.98 8 14. Carnell Williams RB TBB 2.03.00 1.07 2.08 04.69 8 15. Steve Smith WR CAR 2.03.13 1.11 2.08 03.00 8 16. Julius Jones RB DAL 2.05.25 1.12 3.03 04.77 8 17. Chad Johnson WR CIN 2.05.75 2.01 2.08 02.25 8 18. Terrell Owens WR PHI 2.06.50 2.01 2.10 03.78 8 19. Ronnie Brown RB MIA 2.07.88 1.07 3.07 08.94 8 20. Torry Holt WR STL 2.08.00 2.05 2.12 02.71 7 21. Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI 2.09.43 2.07 3.02 02.37 7 22. Kevin Jones RB DET 2.11.00 1.12 3.11 08.63 5 23. Randy Moss WR OAK 2.11.57 2.10 3.03 01.72 7 24. Marvin Harrison WR IND 2.12.17 2.08 3.02 02.14 6 25. Jamal Lewis RB BAL 2.12.57 2.02 3.09 06.16 7 26. Anquan Boldin WR ARI 3.01.80 2.09 3.05 03.56 5 27. Antonio Gates TE SDC 3.03.71 2.11 3.10 03.64 7 28. Deuce McAllister RB NOS 3.05.00 1.11 4.09 14.31 4 29. Reggie Bush RB FA 3.06.00 2.04 4.08 08.23 7 30. Reggie Wayne WR IND 3.06.50 2.12 3.09 03.73 6 31. Chris Chambers WR MIA 3.07.20 3.01 3.12 04.49 5 32. Hines Ward WR PIT 3.09.00 3.04 4.03 04.55 7 33. Darrell Jackson WR SEA 3.10.57 3.05 4.06 04.35 7 34. Chester Taylor RB BAL 3.12.29 3.03 4.12 09.62 7 35. Corey Dillon RB NEP 3.12.60 3.02 5.05 10.16 5 36. Javon Walker WR GBP 4.01.00 3.08 4.04 02.83 7 37. Santana Moss WR WAS 4.01.29 3.09 4.09 04.82 7 38. DeShaun Foster RB CAR 4.03.67 2.04 5.06 12.91 6 39. Roy Williams WR DET 4.04.43 3.06 4.11 05.44 7 40. Warrick Dunn RB ATL 4.05.57 3.12 5.08 06.78 7 41. Joe Horn WR NOS 4.06.17 4.01 5.02 04.88 6 42. Plaxico Burress WR NYG 4.06.57 3.10 4.11 04.47 7 43. Thomas Jones RB CHI 4.08.00 3.08 5.10 10.86 5 44. Marc Bulger QB STL 4.08.14 3.12 5.01 04.53 7 45. Jeremy Shockey TE NYG 4.08.33 3.07 5.01 07.23 6 46. Andre Johnson WR HOU 4.08.50 4.04 5.05 04.68 6 47. Tatum Bell RB DEN 4.09.86 3.10 5.12 09.28 7 48. Reuben Droughns RB CLE 4.11.57 3.05 6.03 12.93 7 49. Tony Gonzalez TE KCC 4.12.43 4.05 6.01 06.48 7 50. Carson Palmer QB CIN 5.02.63 1.08 7.01 20.80 8 51. Donald Driver WR GBP 5.02.86 4.03 5.12 07.63 7 52. Willie Parker RB PIT 5.03.71 4.01 6.05 08.46 7 53. Joseph Addai RB FA 5.03.71 3.06 7.03 16.14 7 54. Ahman Green RB GBP 5.05.00 4.01 5.12 09.19 5 55. Deion Branch WR NEP 5.10.00 5.06 6.03 03.39 5 56. Tom Brady QB NEP 5.10.57 4.10 6.10 10.33 7 57. Daunte Culpepper QB MIN 5.11.25 5.04 6.08 07.18 4 58. Donovan McNabb QB PHI 5.12.43 5.07 6.04 03.69 7 59. Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA 5.12.57 5.04 6.09 06.80 7 60. Chris Brown RB TEN 5.12.75 5.05 6.11 08.73 4 61. Nate Burleson WR MIN 6.02.33 5.02 6.11 10.97 3 62. Todd Heap TE BAL 6.02.43 5.02 7.04 11.21 7 63. TJ Houshmandzadeh WR CIN 6.02.57 5.09 6.07 04.12 7 64. Fred Taylor RB JAC 6.03.43 4.08 7.04 13.19 7 65. Curtis Martin RB NYJ 6.04.00 5.03 6.12 09.43 5 66. Alge Crumpler TE ATL 6.07.14 6.01 7.05 05.81 7 67. Jason Witten TE DAL 6.07.43 5.07 7.06 07.70 7 68. Brett Favre QB GBP 6.09.33 6.02 7.09 10.21 3 69. Michael Clayton WR TBB 6.11.00 5.08 9.07 16.73 7 70. Derrick Mason WR BAL 6.12.29 5.12 8.12 11.50 7 71. Lee Evans WR BUF 6.12.86 6.01 7.10 07.52 7 72. Laveranues Coles WR NYJ 7.02.75 5.04 8.09 18.15 4 73. Randy McMichael TE MIA 7.05.60 6.07 7.12 06.58 5 74. Chris Cooley TE WAS 7.07.25 6.09 8.04 07.80 4 75. Ron Dayne RB DEN 7.07.25 6.03 8.06 12.47 4 76. Drew Bennett WR TEN 7.08.50 6.08 8.11 11.27 4 77. Eli Manning QB NYG 7.08.86 5.11 8.10 13.09 7 78. L.J. Smith TE PHI 7.09.50 7.07 7.12 02.38 4 79. Jake Plummer QB DEN 7.10.67 6.12 9.08 12.86 6 80. Cedric Benson RB CHI 7.11.33 6.02 11.04 21.22 6 81. Dallas Clark TE IND 8.01.00 7.06 8.06 06.24 3 82. Joey Galloway WR TBB 8.01.14 4.02 16.02 49.17 7 83. Jake Delhomme QB CAR 8.04.14 7.02 9.12 12.56 7 84. Trent Green QB KCC 8.05.29 7.06 9.12 10.29 7 85. DeAngelo Williams RB FA 8.06.29 7.03 10.10 14.15 7 86. Kurt Warner QB ARI 8.07.71 6.02 9.04 13.43 7 87. Donte' Stallworth WR NOS 8.10.71 6.11 16.04 39.84 7 88. Dominic Rhodes RB IND 8.11.20 6.06 12.06 28.59 5 89. Muhsin Muhammad WR CHI 9.01.43 6.04 11.04 21.54 7 90. Priest Holmes RB KCC 9.02.67 6.09 10.11 18.84 6 91. Vernon Davis TE FA 9.04.57 7.04 10.07 13.23 7 92. Rod Smith WR DEN 9.05.00 7.07 11.05 18.67 6 93. T.J. Duckett RB ATL 9.06.50 8.09 11.02 11.57 6 94. Drew Bledsoe QB DAL 9.07.14 8.03 12.09 18.61 7 95. Jerry Porter WR OAK 9.08.14 5.11 11.12 31.42 7 96. Kellen Winslow TE CLE 9.09.00 7.12 11.01 11.89 7 97. Kevan Barlow RB SFO 9.11.00 7.11 11.12 19.21 5 98. Kevin Curtis WR STL 9.11.00 7.12 12.07 20.45 6 99. Chicago Bears DT CHI 9.11.00 8.09 13.01 19.03 6 100. Chris Perry RB CIN 9.11.20 7.02 11.11 26.56 5 101. Reggie Brown WR PHI 9.11.71 7.07 12.04 19.80 7 102. Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT 9.12.83 8.07 13.03 19.91 6 103. Najeh Davenport RB GBP 10.02.80 8.01 12.12 21.44 5 104. Antonio Bryant WR CLE 10.03.33 6.07 12.12 29.24 6 105. Eddie Kennison WR KCC 10.03.43 7.04 13.03 23.95 7 106. Aaron Brooks QB NOS 10.04.14 7.09 14.05 24.79 7 107. Frank Gore RB SFO 10.05.00 7.11 12.08 18.48 7 108. Ashley Lelie WR DEN 10.06.20 5.11 14.09 41.77 5 109. Koren Robinson WR MIN 10.06.71 8.03 13.12 24.38 7 110. Pittsburgh Steelers DT PIT 10.08.29 9.04 13.04 19.00 7 111. Heath Miller TE PIT 10.09.00 9.06 12.04 14.72 6 112. Drew Brees QB SDC 10.09.17 9.08 11.09 11.41 6 113. Laurence Maroney RB FA 10.09.67 7.04 16.06 42.29 6 114. Lendale White RB FA 10.12.86 6.05 15.12 49.67 7 115. Matt Leinart QB FA 11.02.33 9.11 13.03 21.57 3 116. Carolina Panthers DT CAR 11.02.43 9.07 14.01 19.37 7 117. Braylon Edwards WR CLE 11.03.20 9.09 13.07 18.14 5 118. David Carr QB HOU 11.04.00 9.12 12.11 17.69 3 119. Jerramy Stevens TE SEA 11.04.71 10.01 14.03 18.99 7 120. Ernest Wilford WR JAC 11.05.00 10.05 12.10 12.38 6 121. Leonard Pope TE FA 11.05.33 8.11 12.09 26.27 3 122. Byron Leftwich QB JAC 11.05.57 9.05 13.07 18.73 7 123. Eric Moulds WR BUF 11.06.83 6.04 16.10 40.34 6 124. Sam Gado RB GBP 11.08.14 8.06 14.06 28.75 7 125. Marion III Barber RB DAL 11.08.40 8.10 13.10 22.02 5 126. Terry Glenn WR DAL 11.09.33 11.06 12.01 03.51 3 127. David Givens WR NEP 11.10.80 8.05 16.10 41.32 5 128. Neil Rackers PK ARI 11.12.57 11.04 12.09 06.08 7 129. Isaac Bruce WR STL 12.02.00 10.08 13.10 15.23 6 130. Jermaine Wiggins TE MIN 12.04.00 10.12 13.03 14.18 3 131. Mewelde Moore RB MIN 12.06.00 7.12 15.04 32.56 5 132. Ben Troupe TE TEN 12.07.00 8.07 16.11 35.25 6 133. Adam Vinatieri PK NEP 12.08.57 10.01 14.09 18.47 7 134. Keyshawn Johnson WR DAL 12.08.71 9.02 15.09 27.74 7 135. Mark Brunell QB WAS 12.09.00 11.02 15.01 24.76 3 136. Brandon Lloyd WR SFO 12.10.33 10.07 15.11 33.01 3 137. Ben Watson TE NEP 12.12.00 10.02 15.06 26.43 4 138. Tampa Bay Buccaneers DT TBB 13.04.00 11.07 16.03 23.75 5 139. Brad Johnson QB MIN 13.04.33 11.10 15.12 27.54 3 140. Keenan McCardell WR SDC 13.05.17 11.11 16.07 20.61 6 141. Baltimore Ravens DT BAL 13.05.33 10.02 16.09 30.14 6 142. Matt Jones WR JAC 13.06.00 10.03 15.09 29.23 4 143. Atlanta Falcons DT ATL 13.08.80 12.04 14.05 10.33 5 144. Zach Hilton TE NOS 13.10.33 13.05 14.03 05.03 3 145. Shayne Graham PK CIN 13.11.00 12.04 15.03 15.34 4 146. Mike Vanderjagt PK IND 13.11.57 11.07 15.05 18.88 7 147. Dallas Cowboys DT DAL 14.01.50 12.01 15.09 21.93 4 148. Troy Williamson WR MIN 14.01.67 12.03 15.02 19.66 3 149. Duce Staley RB PIT 14.03.40 12.02 15.12 19.82 5 150. Jason Elam PK DEN 14.08.00 13.04 15.04 09.90 5 151. David Akers PK PHI 14.08.75 13.07 15.08 11.41 4 152. Mark Clayton WR BAL 14.09.00 12.12 16.06 21.00 3 153. Washington Redskins DT WAS 14.09.25 11.09 16.11 26.41 4 154. Roddy White WR ATL 14.10.67 13.05 16.07 19.14 3 155. Marcus Pollard TE DET 15.02.00 13.02 16.09 21.93 3 156. Matt Stover PK BAL 16.03.67 16.01 16.05 02.31 3
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Some quick thoughts without going too deep into analysis:

1. McGahee WAY too high. No way he should be a Top 10 pick in my opinion.

2. Rudi Johnson keeps going outside the Top 10 and keeps finishing in the Top 10. If that trend continues he'll represent terrific value early in the second round.

3. Kevin Jones and Jamal Lewis are also going too high.

4. Gates a bit low. He's a legit second-round pick IMO.

5. I think Corey Dillon is a major question but I also think he has one more decent year left in him; if that's true he could end up being a nice value pick late in the third round, early in the fourth.

6. Warrick Dunn just keeps on representing value.

7. People sure seem convinced Joe Horn will bounce back. I'm not sold.

8. Speaking of bouncing back, Michael Clayton 69th overall? Wow. I think he'll be better than last season but that's some serious love for a guy who was beyond being a dog last season.

9. Tatum Bell going much earlier than Dayne. I think he'll outproduce Dayne but if it's close Dayne at 75 represents outstanding value.

10. Dominic Rhodes at 88 has major value written all over it IMO.

11. Another year, another year of Eddie Kennison representing major value. Terry Glenn, Ernest Wilford, Eric Moulds, Keenan McCardell and Matt Jones also look real good late.

 
Few things that jump out to me...

-Julius Jones is going too early. I would take several elite WR over him.

-Droughns and Willie Parker seem to be too low and may be decent value picks for starting RBs this year.

-I don't think Culpepper should be in the same group as McNabb, Brady and Hasselbeck for 06.

-Burleson is WAY too high, imo.

-Leftwich seems likely a good buy low candidate.

-Like always, there are many great value OLD WRs available much later than they should be. (assuming this is a redraft league)

 
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Some quick thoughts without going too deep into analysis:

1. McGahee WAY too high. No way he should be a Top 10 pick in my opinion.

2. Rudi Johnson keeps going outside the Top 10 and keeps finishing in the Top 10. If that trend continues he'll represent terrific value early in the second round.

3. Kevin Jones and Jamal Lewis are also going too high.

4. Gates a bit low. He's a legit second-round pick IMO.

5. I think Corey Dillon is a major question but I also think he has one more decent year left in him; if that's true he could end up being a nice value pick late in the third round, early in the fourth.

6. Warrick Dunn just keeps on representing value.

7. People sure seem convinced Joe Horn will bounce back. I'm not sold.

8. Speaking of bouncing back, Michael Clayton 69th overall? Wow. I think he'll be better than last season but that's some serious love for a guy who was beyond being a dog last season.

9. Tatum Bell going much earlier than Dayne. I think he'll outproduce Dayne but if it's close Dayne at 75 represents outstanding value.

10. Dominic Rhodes at 88 has major value written all over it IMO.

11. Another year, another year of Eddie Kennison representing major value. Terry Glenn, Ernest Wilford, Eric Moulds, Keenan McCardell and Matt Jones also look real good late.
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Are you saying Jamal and KJ are going to early or to late?
 
Some quick thoughts without going too deep into analysis:

1. McGahee WAY too high. No way he should be a Top 10 pick in my opinion.

2. Rudi Johnson keeps going outside the Top 10 and keeps finishing in the Top 10. If that trend continues he'll represent terrific value early in the second round.

3. Kevin Jones and Jamal Lewis are also going too high.

4. Gates a bit low. He's a legit second-round pick IMO.

5. I think Corey Dillon is a major question but I also think he has one more decent year left in him; if that's true he could end up being a nice value pick late in the third round, early in the fourth.

6. Warrick Dunn just keeps on representing value.

7. People sure seem convinced Joe Horn will bounce back. I'm not sold.

8. Speaking of bouncing back, Michael Clayton 69th overall? Wow. I think he'll be better than last season but that's some serious love for a guy who was beyond being a dog last season.

9. Tatum Bell going much earlier than Dayne. I think he'll outproduce Dayne but if it's close Dayne at 75 represents outstanding value.

10. Dominic Rhodes at 88 has major value written all over it IMO.

11. Another year, another year of Eddie Kennison representing major value. Terry Glenn, Ernest Wilford, Eric Moulds, Keenan McCardell and Matt Jones also look real good late.
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Are you saying Jamal and KJ are going to early or to late?
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Too early. I don't think either one of them should be taken before the fourth round and in this report Jones was going in the second and Lewis early third. I wouldn't want them at those spots. Way too much risk in my opinion (granted that's true with a number of RBs this season but Jones and Lewis carry more risk than most).
 
Some quick thoughts without going too deep into analysis:

1. McGahee WAY too high. No way he should be a Top 10 pick in my opinion.

2. Rudi Johnson keeps going outside the Top 10 and keeps finishing in the Top 10. If that trend continues he'll represent terrific value early in the second round.

3. Kevin Jones and Jamal Lewis are also going too high.

4. Gates a bit low. He's a legit second-round pick IMO.

5. I think Corey Dillon is a major question but I also think he has one more decent year left in him; if that's true he could end up being a nice value pick late in the third round, early in the fourth.

6. Warrick Dunn just keeps on representing value.

7. People sure seem convinced Joe Horn will bounce back. I'm not sold.

8. Speaking of bouncing back, Michael Clayton 69th overall? Wow. I think he'll be better than last season but that's some serious love for a guy who was beyond being a dog last season.

9. Tatum Bell going much earlier than Dayne. I think he'll outproduce Dayne but if it's close Dayne at 75 represents outstanding value.

10. Dominic Rhodes at 88 has major value written all over it IMO.

11. Another year, another year of Eddie Kennison representing major value. Terry Glenn, Ernest Wilford, Eric Moulds, Keenan McCardell and Matt Jones also look real good late.
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Are you saying Jamal and KJ are going to early or to late?
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Too early. I don't think either one of them should be taken before the fourth round and in this report Jones was going in the second and Lewis early third. I wouldn't want them at those spots. Way too much risk in my opinion (granted that's true with a number of RBs this season but Jones and Lewis carry more risk than most).
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That's what I thought you were saying. I disagree. Jamal has had one bad year in his career (while healthy) and had alot of baggage in last offseason. He also had poor qb play for alot of the year (Worse than Boller). This year I think he'll bounce back to be a top 15 guy. As for Jones he didn't have a chance last year, They were losing all the time and he never got his chance to get things going. I think skills wise he's a pretty good back and I for one think Detroit will be improved this year with Martz at the helm and Kitna under center. Would I want to count on those guys as my #2 (which in that position I agree maybe alittle early) probably not but I could see both of them breaking the top 15 and maybe even one of them creeping up into the top 10.I think early thirs would be a good spot for both of them.

 
I wouldn't want Jones or Lewis as my RB2 which is where they're being drafted based on this report (although Lewis could be a RB3 as the 25th pick). Of the two, I'd give Jones a chance as my RB3 but I want no part of Lewis this season. I didn't like how he ran last season (though he finished better) and unlike last season I think the Ravens have a backup who fits their system better in Anderson so another sluggish start by Lewis and Billick may not be as reluctant to go to the backup as he was last season with Taylor.

With regard to Jones, I think his skill set suggests talent but he hasn't shown the consistency to back that up on the field. Plus he has major durability issues having been injured in each of his first two seasons and I don't think he fits a Martz offense at all. He's a poor receiver and is horrible at blitz pickups so his snaps will be limited on that count (which also opens the door Calhoun to get on the field and impress). Also, Martz showed no inclination while with the Rams to feature Marshall Faulk at times in the running game and Faulk was putting up HOF-type seasons. If he wasn't going to do it with Faulk, what makes people think he'll change things for Kevin Jones?

I don't like either guy this season though if I was forced to choose between the two I'd rather have Jones. But I wouldn't like it very much. :D

 
I wouldn't want Jones or Lewis as my RB2 which is where they're being drafted based on this report (although Lewis could be a RB3 as the 25th pick). Of the two, I'd give Jones a chance as my RB3 but I want no part of Lewis this season. I didn't like how he ran last season (though he finished better) and unlike last season I think the Ravens have a backup who fits their system better in Anderson so another sluggish start by Lewis and Billick may not be as reluctant to go to the backup as he was last season with Taylor.

With regard to Jones, I think his skill set suggests talent but he hasn't shown the consistency to back that up on the field. Plus he has major durability issues having been injured in each of his first two seasons and I don't think he fits a Martz offense at all. He's a poor receiver and is horrible at blitz pickups so his snaps will be limited on that count (which also opens the door Calhoun to get on the field and impress). Also, Martz showed no inclination while with the Rams to feature Marshall Faulk at times in the running game and Faulk was putting up HOF-type seasons. If he wasn't going to do it with Faulk, what makes people think he'll change things for Kevin Jones?

I don't like either guy this season though if I was forced to choose between the two I'd rather have Jones. But I wouldn't like it very much. :D
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I agree with alot of your comments but wouldn't you agree that Jamal has only had one bad season, last year, where he had an injury in the preseason that didn't get treated properly due to his other issue of being in jail. You also pointed out how he looked better as the year went on. I think this has to do with him getting healthier and getting his qb back. If he gets McNair, which I think he will that upgrades him alittle more. I'm not looking for you to agree with me I'm just a Jamal owner and what to get other's opinions.
 
You all know the schtick by now... but Dayne @75 = S.O.D. First or second round production, 7th round price. I'll take it all day long.

Also, while I think Dayne is going to produce better than Bell, I think Bell is actually pretty accurately valued where he's at. I think he'll wind up producing like a late 4th/early 5th. I'd probably shy away from him, because I'm looking for some consistancy or some RB1 upside, and in my opinion Bell doesn't have a lot of either... but I suspect his year end numbers will very much warrent that draft position.

 
You all know the schtick by now... but Dayne @75 = S.O.D. First or second round production, 7th round price. I'll take it all day long.

Also, while I think Dayne is going to produce better than Bell, I think Bell is actually pretty accurately valued where he's at. I think he'll wind up producing like a late 4th/early 5th. I'd probably shy away from him, because I'm looking for some consistancy or some RB1 upside, and in my opinion Bell doesn't have a lot of either... but I suspect his year end numbers will very much warrent that draft position.
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I'm not so certain about 1st-2nd rd production from Dayne, but I definitely agree he is way too low. I sort of feel like Mike Anderson's numbers from last year are likely the cap for Dayne... what RB rank did Anderson finish in most standard leagues... 15ish??? I guess maybe he fell into that range, so its possible Dayne could as well.On a different note, I also noticed Mark Clayton is going about 4 full rounds after Reggie Brown... seems odd to me.

EDIT: I just looked, MA was ranked RB #10 by FBG scoring... so if Dayne produces numbers somewhat similar, he would be giving you 2nd rd production. That said, in most leagues you can probably hold off a bit and still get him a couple/few rounds later for much better value.

 
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I know, this is waaayyyy early, but I'm bored and would love to hear what sharks think of the following ADP results:

Start Date : 2006-04-28 Finish Date : 2006-05-19

Info : 12 ANY HP Flex-TE-Req Only-Serious-Mocks

First Name Last Name Pos Team ADP High Low Standard

Deviation Drafts

1. Larry Johnson RB KCC 1.01.14 1.01 1.02 00.38 7

2. Shaun Alexander RB SEA 1.02.13 1.01 1.03 00.64 8

3. LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDC 1.02.57 1.01 1.03 00.79 7

4. Clinton Portis RB WAS 1.04.88 1.04 1.07 00.99 8

5. Edgerrin James RB IND 1.05.33 1.04 1.07 01.21 6

6. Tiki Barber RB NYG 1.05.50 1.04 1.09 01.60 8

7. LaMont Jordan RB OAK 1.07.17 1.06 1.10 01.47 6

8. Steven Jackson RB STL 1.09.50 1.08 1.12 01.60 8

9. Willis McGahee RB BUF 1.10.00 1.06 2.05 03.63 8

10. Peyton Manning QB IND 1.10.25 1.04 2.08 04.68 8

11. Rudi Johnson RB CIN 1.10.86 1.08 2.03 02.27 7

12. Brian Westbrook RB PHI 2.01.75 1.08 2.07 03.85 8

13. Domanick Davis RB HOU 2.02.75 1.12 2.05 01.98 8

14. Carnell Williams RB TBB 2.03.00 1.07 2.08 04.69 8

15. Steve Smith WR CAR 2.03.13 1.11 2.08 03.00 8

16. Julius Jones RB DAL 2.05.25 1.12 3.03 04.77 8

17. Chad Johnson WR CIN 2.05.75 2.01 2.08 02.25 8

18. Terrell Owens WR PHI 2.06.50 2.01 2.10 03.78 8

19. Ronnie Brown RB MIA 2.07.88 1.07 3.07 08.94 8

20. Torry Holt WR STL 2.08.00 2.05 2.12 02.71 7

21. Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI 2.09.43 2.07 3.02 02.37 7

22. Kevin Jones RB DET 2.11.00 1.12 3.11 08.63 5

23. Randy Moss WR OAK 2.11.57 2.10 3.03 01.72 7

24. Marvin Harrison WR IND 2.12.17 2.08 3.02 02.14 6

25. Jamal Lewis RB BAL 2.12.57 2.02 3.09 06.16 7

26. Anquan Boldin WR ARI 3.01.80 2.09 3.05 03.56 5

27. Antonio Gates TE SDC 3.03.71 2.11 3.10 03.64 7

28. Deuce McAllister RB NOS 3.05.00 1.11 4.09 14.31 4

29. Reggie Bush RB FA 3.06.00 2.04 4.08 08.23 7

30. Reggie Wayne WR IND 3.06.50 2.12 3.09 03.73 6

31. Chris Chambers WR MIA 3.07.20 3.01 3.12 04.49 5

32. Hines Ward WR PIT 3.09.00 3.04 4.03 04.55 7

33. Darrell Jackson WR SEA 3.10.57 3.05 4.06 04.35 7

34. Chester Taylor RB BAL 3.12.29 3.03 4.12 09.62 7

35. Corey Dillon RB NEP 3.12.60 3.02 5.05 10.16 5

36. Javon Walker WR GBP 4.01.00 3.08 4.04 02.83 7

37. Santana Moss WR WAS 4.01.29 3.09 4.09 04.82 7

38. DeShaun Foster RB CAR 4.03.67 2.04 5.06 12.91 6

39. Roy Williams WR DET 4.04.43 3.06 4.11 05.44 7

40. Warrick Dunn RB ATL 4.05.57 3.12 5.08 06.78 7

41. Joe Horn WR NOS 4.06.17 4.01 5.02 04.88 6

42. Plaxico Burress WR NYG 4.06.57 3.10 4.11 04.47 7

43. Thomas Jones RB CHI 4.08.00 3.08 5.10 10.86 5

44. Marc Bulger QB STL 4.08.14 3.12 5.01 04.53 7

45. Jeremy Shockey TE NYG 4.08.33 3.07 5.01 07.23 6

46. Andre Johnson WR HOU 4.08.50 4.04 5.05 04.68 6

47. Tatum Bell RB DEN 4.09.86 3.10 5.12 09.28 7

48. Reuben Droughns RB CLE 4.11.57 3.05 6.03 12.93 7

49. Tony Gonzalez TE KCC 4.12.43 4.05 6.01 06.48 7

50. Carson Palmer QB CIN 5.02.63 1.08 7.01 20.80 8

51. Donald Driver WR GBP 5.02.86 4.03 5.12 07.63 7

52. Willie Parker RB PIT 5.03.71 4.01 6.05 08.46 7

53. Joseph Addai RB FA 5.03.71 3.06 7.03 16.14 7

54. Ahman Green RB GBP 5.05.00 4.01 5.12 09.19 5

55. Deion Branch WR NEP 5.10.00 5.06 6.03 03.39 5

56. Tom Brady QB NEP 5.10.57 4.10 6.10 10.33 7

57. Daunte Culpepper QB MIN 5.11.25 5.04 6.08 07.18 4

58. Donovan McNabb QB PHI 5.12.43 5.07 6.04 03.69 7

59. Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA 5.12.57 5.04 6.09 06.80 7

60. Chris Brown RB TEN 5.12.75 5.05 6.11 08.73 4

61. Nate Burleson WR MIN 6.02.33 5.02 6.11 10.97 3

62. Todd Heap TE BAL 6.02.43 5.02 7.04 11.21 7

63. TJ Houshmandzadeh WR CIN 6.02.57 5.09 6.07 04.12 7

64. Fred Taylor RB JAC 6.03.43 4.08 7.04 13.19 7

65. Curtis Martin RB NYJ 6.04.00 5.03 6.12 09.43 5

66. Alge Crumpler TE ATL 6.07.14 6.01 7.05 05.81 7

67. Jason Witten TE DAL 6.07.43 5.07 7.06 07.70 7

68. Brett Favre QB GBP 6.09.33 6.02 7.09 10.21 3

69. Michael Clayton WR TBB 6.11.00 5.08 9.07 16.73 7

70. Derrick Mason WR BAL 6.12.29 5.12 8.12 11.50 7

71. Lee Evans WR BUF 6.12.86 6.01 7.10 07.52 7

72. Laveranues Coles WR NYJ 7.02.75 5.04 8.09 18.15 4

73. Randy McMichael TE MIA 7.05.60 6.07 7.12 06.58 5

74. Chris Cooley TE WAS 7.07.25 6.09 8.04 07.80 4

75. Ron Dayne RB DEN 7.07.25 6.03 8.06 12.47 4

76. Drew Bennett WR TEN 7.08.50 6.08 8.11 11.27 4

77. Eli Manning QB NYG 7.08.86 5.11 8.10 13.09 7

78. L.J. Smith TE PHI 7.09.50 7.07 7.12 02.38 4

79. Jake Plummer QB DEN 7.10.67 6.12 9.08 12.86 6

80. Cedric Benson RB CHI 7.11.33 6.02 11.04 21.22 6

81. Dallas Clark TE IND 8.01.00 7.06 8.06 06.24 3

82. Joey Galloway WR TBB 8.01.14 4.02 16.02 49.17 7

83. Jake Delhomme QB CAR 8.04.14 7.02 9.12 12.56 7

84. Trent Green QB KCC 8.05.29 7.06 9.12 10.29 7

85. DeAngelo Williams RB FA 8.06.29 7.03 10.10 14.15 7

86. Kurt Warner QB ARI 8.07.71 6.02 9.04 13.43 7

87. Donte' Stallworth WR NOS 8.10.71 6.11 16.04 39.84 7

88. Dominic Rhodes RB IND 8.11.20 6.06 12.06 28.59 5

89. Muhsin Muhammad WR CHI 9.01.43 6.04 11.04 21.54 7

90. Priest Holmes RB KCC 9.02.67 6.09 10.11 18.84 6

91. Vernon Davis TE FA 9.04.57 7.04 10.07 13.23 7

92. Rod Smith WR DEN 9.05.00 7.07 11.05 18.67 6

93. T.J. Duckett RB ATL 9.06.50 8.09 11.02 11.57 6

94. Drew Bledsoe QB DAL 9.07.14 8.03 12.09 18.61 7

95. Jerry Porter WR OAK 9.08.14 5.11 11.12 31.42 7

96. Kellen Winslow TE CLE 9.09.00 7.12 11.01 11.89 7

97. Kevan Barlow RB SFO 9.11.00 7.11 11.12 19.21 5

98. Kevin Curtis WR STL 9.11.00 7.12 12.07 20.45 6

99. Chicago Bears DT CHI 9.11.00 8.09 13.01 19.03 6

100. Chris Perry RB CIN 9.11.20 7.02 11.11 26.56 5

101. Reggie Brown WR PHI 9.11.71 7.07 12.04 19.80 7

102. Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT 9.12.83 8.07 13.03 19.91 6

103. Najeh Davenport RB GBP 10.02.80 8.01 12.12 21.44 5

104. Antonio Bryant WR CLE 10.03.33 6.07 12.12 29.24 6

105. Eddie Kennison WR KCC 10.03.43 7.04 13.03 23.95 7

106. Aaron Brooks QB NOS 10.04.14 7.09 14.05 24.79 7

107. Frank Gore RB SFO 10.05.00 7.11 12.08 18.48 7

108. Ashley Lelie WR DEN 10.06.20 5.11 14.09 41.77 5

109. Koren Robinson WR MIN 10.06.71 8.03 13.12 24.38 7

110. Pittsburgh Steelers DT PIT 10.08.29 9.04 13.04 19.00 7

111. Heath Miller TE PIT 10.09.00 9.06 12.04 14.72 6

112. Drew Brees QB SDC 10.09.17 9.08 11.09 11.41 6

113. Laurence Maroney RB FA 10.09.67 7.04 16.06 42.29 6

114. Lendale White RB FA 10.12.86 6.05 15.12 49.67 7

115. Matt Leinart QB FA 11.02.33 9.11 13.03 21.57 3

116. Carolina Panthers DT CAR 11.02.43 9.07 14.01 19.37 7

117. Braylon Edwards WR CLE 11.03.20 9.09 13.07 18.14 5

118. David Carr QB HOU 11.04.00 9.12 12.11 17.69 3

119. Jerramy Stevens TE SEA 11.04.71 10.01 14.03 18.99 7

120. Ernest Wilford WR JAC 11.05.00 10.05 12.10 12.38 6

121. Leonard Pope TE FA 11.05.33 8.11 12.09 26.27 3

122. Byron Leftwich QB JAC 11.05.57 9.05 13.07 18.73 7

123. Eric Moulds WR BUF 11.06.83 6.04 16.10 40.34 6

124. Sam Gado RB GBP 11.08.14 8.06 14.06 28.75 7

125. Marion III Barber RB DAL 11.08.40 8.10 13.10 22.02 5

126. Terry Glenn WR DAL 11.09.33 11.06 12.01 03.51 3

127. David Givens WR NEP 11.10.80 8.05 16.10 41.32 5

128. Neil Rackers PK ARI 11.12.57 11.04 12.09 06.08 7

129. Isaac Bruce WR STL 12.02.00 10.08 13.10 15.23 6

130. Jermaine Wiggins TE MIN 12.04.00 10.12 13.03 14.18 3

131. Mewelde Moore RB MIN 12.06.00 7.12 15.04 32.56 5

132. Ben Troupe TE TEN 12.07.00 8.07 16.11 35.25 6

133. Adam Vinatieri PK NEP 12.08.57 10.01 14.09 18.47 7

134. Keyshawn Johnson WR DAL 12.08.71 9.02 15.09 27.74 7

135. Mark Brunell QB WAS 12.09.00 11.02 15.01 24.76 3

136. Brandon Lloyd WR SFO 12.10.33 10.07 15.11 33.01 3

137. Ben Watson TE NEP 12.12.00 10.02 15.06 26.43 4

138. Tampa Bay Buccaneers DT TBB 13.04.00 11.07 16.03 23.75 5

139. Brad Johnson QB MIN 13.04.33 11.10 15.12 27.54 3

140. Keenan McCardell WR SDC 13.05.17 11.11 16.07 20.61 6

141. Baltimore Ravens DT BAL 13.05.33 10.02 16.09 30.14 6

142. Matt Jones WR JAC 13.06.00 10.03 15.09 29.23 4

143. Atlanta Falcons DT ATL 13.08.80 12.04 14.05 10.33 5

144. Zach Hilton TE NOS 13.10.33 13.05 14.03 05.03 3

145. Shayne Graham PK CIN 13.11.00 12.04 15.03 15.34 4

146. Mike Vanderjagt PK IND 13.11.57 11.07 15.05 18.88 7

147. Dallas Cowboys DT DAL 14.01.50 12.01 15.09 21.93 4

148. Troy Williamson WR MIN 14.01.67 12.03 15.02 19.66 3

149. Duce Staley RB PIT 14.03.40 12.02 15.12 19.82 5

150. Jason Elam PK DEN 14.08.00 13.04 15.04 09.90 5

151. David Akers PK PHI 14.08.75 13.07 15.08 11.41 4

152. Mark Clayton WR BAL 14.09.00 12.12 16.06 21.00 3

153. Washington Redskins DT WAS 14.09.25 11.09 16.11 26.41 4

154. Roddy White WR ATL 14.10.67 13.05 16.07 19.14 3

155. Marcus Pollard TE DET 15.02.00 13.02 16.09 21.93 3

156. Matt Stover PK BAL 16.03.67 16.01 16.05 02.31 3
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1. Ronnie Brown RB MIA is going way to late at 19. I would take him at the end of the first at least. Putting him below Julius Jones is a joke and I am a Jones owner in a dynasty.2. Edgerrin James is to high at 5th I would look to him at the end of the first round or even the beginning of the 2nd. This is Arizona were players go to die fantasy wise.

3. I think Lendale White is a huge bargin at 114. He will be the starter by week 3.

 
You all know the schtick by now... but Dayne @75 = S.O.D. First or second round production, 7th round price. I'll take it all day long.

Also, while I think Dayne is going to produce better than Bell, I think Bell is actually pretty accurately valued where he's at. I think he'll wind up producing like a late 4th/early 5th. I'd probably shy away from him, because I'm looking for some consistancy or some RB1 upside, and in my opinion Bell doesn't have a lot of either... but I suspect his year end numbers will very much warrent that draft position.
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Dayne will start going alot earlier than the seventh round once real drafts take place closer to the season, if he doesn't lose the starting job in training camp.
 
#1 WR is going way too late. Based on these ADPs a solid strategy (again this year) looks like

RB

WR

WR

RB

RB

with QB taken later. RBs in rounds 4-5 aren't much different than earlier ones, but WRs in rds 2 and 3 are a significant step above the later guys.

 
#1 WR is going way too late. Based on these ADPs a solid strategy (again this year) looks like

RB

WR

WR

RB

RB

with QB taken later. RBs in rounds 4-5 aren't much different than earlier ones, but WRs in rds 2 and 3 are a significant step above the later guys.
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I agree....especially if you can get Dunn/Parker/Droughns in rounds 4-5.....but it is still early.
 
Ok here are my observations:

Too High

S. Jackson at 8 - I don't get it. Never a fan of him.

J. Jones at 16 - Warning you now...Dallas will be a passing Offense.

Gates at 27 - I like Gates as much as the next guy, but way too high. I don't see significant value at the TE position this year. I will be waiting.

Too Low

T. Jones at 43 - Looks good to me. He will outperform that.

S. Gado 124 - Am I the only one who thinks we wins the GB job?

Terry Glenn at 129!!! Holy value Batman. WAAAAY Too low

 
a buddy of mine in the industry alerted to me the adp from the site where he did a few maganze drafts, it looks a little more accurate to me.

http://www.mockdraftcentral.com/feeds/adp_football.jsp

i guess they offer mocks there, as well as the expert league drafts. anyone ever use the site or have any comments on the site?
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Those ADPs don't look significantly more accurate than Antsports. Rudi #6 overall does not sound right from an ADP perspective. I don't see Hines Ward going before Holt in an average draft. Harrison WR3? He was something like WR5 (ADP) last year... I don't see him jumping up 2 spots this year.I am not saying I would rank Rudi, Harrison, or Ward lower, I am just saying for an ADP list those are incorrect.

 
a buddy of mine in the industry alerted to me the adp from the site where he did a few maganze drafts, it looks a little more accurate to me.

http://www.mockdraftcentral.com/feeds/adp_football.jsp

i guess they offer mocks there, as well as the expert league drafts.  anyone ever use the site or have any comments on the site?
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Those ADPs don't look significantly more accurate than Antsports. Rudi #6 overall does not sound right from an ADP perspective. I don't see Hines Ward going before Holt in an average draft. Harrison WR3? He was something like WR5 (ADP) last year... I don't see him jumping up 2 spots this year.I am not saying I would rank Rudi, Harrison, or Ward lower, I am just saying for an ADP list those are incorrect.
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LOOKING at this one how can it be taken seroius when there is stuff like this in it:70.0 Doug Flutie

71.5 Marc Bulger

79.2 Carson Palmer

79.7 Eli Manning

even if he hadn't retired this is crazy

 
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1. Ronnie Brown RB MIA is going way to late at 19. I would take him at the end of the first at least. Putting him below Julius Jones is a joke and I am a Jones owner in a dynasty.

2. Edgerrin James is to high at 5th I would look to him at the end of the first round or even the beginning of the 2nd. This is Arizona were players go to die fantasy wise.

3. I think Lendale White is a huge bargin at 114. He will be the starter by week 3.
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I agree with all of these.I can kind of understand people being too high on James without giving enough weight to how bad ARZ's OL and defense are but how do people think Ronnie Brown is a second rounder.... or a late second rounder at that? That's shocking to me. He's more like a mid-first rounder imo.

 
a buddy of mine in the industry alerted to me the adp from the site where he did a few maganze drafts, it looks a little more accurate to me.

http://www.mockdraftcentral.com/feeds/adp_football.jsp

i guess they offer mocks there, as well as the expert league drafts.  anyone ever use the site or have any comments on the site?
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Those ADPs don't look significantly more accurate than Antsports.Rudi #6 overall does not sound right from an ADP perspective. I don't see Hines Ward going before Holt in an average draft. Harrison WR3? He was something like WR5 (ADP) last year... I don't see him jumping up 2 spots this year.I am not saying I would rank Rudi, Harrison, or Ward lower, I am just saying for an ADP list those are incorrect.
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Hello Islander, it would depend on your league rules (of course) but Rudi finished #8 in my league (RBs) last year and is very consistant. So far his ADP is 6.5 and last year he ranked #8: 6.5-8=-1.5 is not that far off.Just for clarification, what do you mean when you say it's not more accurate than Antsports? The reason I asked is because it seems that you're putting a ranking and an ADP in the same category (in particular, your last sentnce).

P.S

Incorrect according to what?

 
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I'm not so certain about 1st-2nd rd production from Dayne, but I definitely agree he is way too low. I sort of feel like Mike Anderson's numbers from last year are likely the cap for Dayne... what RB rank did Anderson finish in most standard leagues... 15ish??? I guess maybe he fell into that range, so its possible Dayne could as well.

On a different note, I also noticed Mark Clayton is going about 4 full rounds after Reggie Brown... seems odd to me.

EDIT: I just looked, MA was ranked RB #10 by FBG scoring... so if Dayne produces numbers somewhat similar, he would be giving you 2nd rd production. That said, in most leagues you can probably hold off a bit and still get him a couple/few rounds later for much better value.
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On average, 10 RBs are drafted in the first round. Therefore, if an RB finishes in the top 10, that was "first round production".On average, 18-20 RBs are drafted in the first two rounds. Therefore, if an RB finishes in the top 18-20, that was "second round production".

At least, that's how *I* define it. I realize that it's a little bit of a loose interpretation, and it would be more accurate to say "if he were drafted in the first or second rounds, his production would have lived up to his draft position". :)

Ok here are my observations:

Too High

S. Jackson at 8 - I don't get it. Never a fan of him.

J. Jones at 16 - Warning you now...Dallas will be a passing Offense.

Gates at 27 - I like Gates as much as the next guy, but way too high. I don't see significant value at the TE position this year. I will be waiting.

Too Low

T. Jones at 43 - Looks good to me. He will outperform that.

S. Gado 124 - Am I the only one who thinks we wins the GB job?

Terry Glenn at 129!!! Holy value Batman. WAAAAY Too low
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I disagree on Gates. From a VBD-perspective, Tony Gonzo went through a 6 year stretch where he outperformed his ADP every single season... which is a MINDBLOWING accomplishment that just proves how underrated stud TEs really were. Now, I don't think Gates is being UNDERRATED there... but I do think that's a pretty accurate reflection of where he deserves to go.
 
Caddy is WAY too low.  I would take him before McGahee everyday of the week and TWICE on Sundays!
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Not sure about Caddy, he was the 19th RB last year and that was with 310 touches. I agree that I don't like McGahee that high.Personally, I agree with broncofan13000 that Droughns, Dunn and Parker are way too low. They are all still slated to be the #1RBs on their team, but Parker is one slot above Addai and then Ahman Green?

Heck Parker was better than Caddy last year (RB15) on 37 less touches. Parker was also only 1 point behind McGahee who was RB13 and tied with Droughns who was RB14 and Parker had far fewer touches than either.

The more I look at it, if Parker plays 16 games this year and sees one more touch per game, he could be very close to RB10, not bad for a 5th round pick, and unlike Dayne, at this point I don't think Parker has as much risk.

 
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How can you put any credibility on ADP's from a site that still lists players with last year's teams?

IIRC it is also blending draft positions from different size leagues which makes some of the numbers really silly - big diffeence between a 10 team league and a 12 team league or a 14 team league

 
How can you put any credibility on ADP's from a site that still lists players with last year's teams?

IIRC it is also blending draft positions from different size leagues which makes some of the numbers really silly - big diffeence between a 10 team league and a 12 team league or a 14 team league
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It's not blending league sizes - You can pull up different Avgs for each one - And we all know what teams the players are on.It's a good source and a real good Discussion topic on the players and where they are listed.

Also - They only take Qualified "Serious" mocks.

 
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:bag: sorry - didn't see the tag for 12 teamers at the begining of the list.

I still think those are not serious drafters.
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They are only from Qualified "Serious Mocks" SMD's (see tag) - and they do eliminate compter picks....It is pretty good hook. It's a reference point you can look at the list and discuss it or, as people do you can discuss why you think it's a bad list, but you can do that for any average list...... It's a great resource.

 
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How can you put any credibility on ADP's from a site that still lists players with last year's teams?

IIRC it is also blending draft positions from different size leagues which makes some of the numbers really silly - big diffeence between a 10 team league and a 12 team league or a 14 team league
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I don't think anyone is suggesting the ADP rankings have any credibility, they simply are what they are - the average order in which the players have been selected from various drafts using the site. However, the ADP figures are all generated from 12-team "Flex-TE-Req" leagues using Antsports HP scoring (for a review of this scoring system, go to their homepage.)Edited: Blue Peep and Capt. already worked it out while I was typing my reply - nevermind. :bag:

 
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a buddy of mine in the industry alerted to me the adp from the site where he did a few maganze drafts, it looks a little more accurate to me.

http://www.mockdraftcentral.com/feeds/adp_football.jsp

i guess they offer mocks there, as well as the expert league drafts.  anyone ever use the site or have any comments on the site?
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Those ADPs don't look significantly more accurate than Antsports.Rudi #6 overall does not sound right from an ADP perspective. I don't see Hines Ward going before Holt in an average draft. Harrison WR3? He was something like WR5 (ADP) last year... I don't see him jumping up 2 spots this year.I am not saying I would rank Rudi, Harrison, or Ward lower, I am just saying for an ADP list those are incorrect.
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Hello Islander, it would depend on your league rules (of course) but Rudi finished #8 in my league (RBs) last year and is very consistant. So far his ADP is 6.5 and last year he ranked #8: 6.5-8=-1.5 is not that far off.Just for clarification, what do you mean when you say it's not more accurate than Antsports? The reason I asked is because it seems that you're putting a ranking and an ADP in the same category (in particular, your last sentnce).

P.S

Incorrect according to what?
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Hey BigTex,I am not saying that drafting Rudi #6 would be crazy. What I am saying is that I don't believe it's his ADP. If about 1,000 drafts were held tomorrow and you calculated the ADP from those 1,000 drafts, there is no way Rudi would be as high as 6th overall on average. That's what I mean by "incorrect". I think late 1st round is probably more realistic for an ADP. In some drafts he would go in mid 1st, in others late 1st, and in others early-mid 2nd. So ADP late 1st round.

That's how I distinguish between rankings and ADP. You can rank Rudi 6th or 15th, that's based on personal opinion. But the ADP is supposed to be the "average opinion" and how drafts play out, and I don't see how the average opinion for Rudi can be as early as 6th overall.

 
FWIW I believe that the HP reference in the first post refers to the scoring method and I THINK that the HP scoring method is a point-per-reception type of league. That will, of course, have an impact on the rankings.

 
I have not yet warmed up to redraft, but my with with the abundance of first round busts in recent history - Jamal Lewis, Willis McGahee, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, etc., Rudi Johnson is about is looking very attractive this year. I'd rank him about 6-8.

I predict numerous Rudi Johnson/Chris Perry handcuff threads in July and August.

 
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