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Vick in Mid Season Form (1 Viewer)
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theglorydays
Footballguy
HAHA he is terrible
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
His first half of professional football in 2 years, soften your hate.
cst2006
Footballguy
For someone who hasn't played in a live football game in 2 years I thought he played well, underthrew the INT, but what other QB would have the opposing defense all out blitzing them in the 4th quarter of a preseason game (which led to the fumble)? If you're gonna hate on Vick at least do it intelligently and have some sort of basis for it, if you actually watched him play tonight you'd see he performed pretty well considering the circumstances..
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Rusty Syringes
Footballguy
Shack weekend!
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Vick's stat line:
7-11 passing, 26 yards. 1 Int.
7 rushes, 35 yrds. 1 TD on a QB draw from the 2.
Sacked 4 times for 40 yrds lost. 2 fumbles, 1 lost.
7-11 passing, 26 yards. 1 Int.
7 rushes, 35 yrds. 1 TD on a QB draw from the 2.
Sacked 4 times for 40 yrds lost. 2 fumbles, 1 lost.
Thats typical Vick, I didn't expect anything more.
A stat line (or two or three) doesn't really indicate how well or poorly he played in last nights game. Unless you actually saw the game, you cannot deduce that he played well or poorly from that stat line.Truth be told, I was surprised by how well he played. He didn't just take off running like I was so used to seeing him do in Atlanta. He actually kept looking for targets down field while moving out of the pocket in passing situations. It wasn't until the last possible moment that he took off running.As far as the sacks, they had nothing to do with Vick and everything to do with the personnel on the line.Yeah, the Eagles will keep Vick and find a partner to trade with as far as Feeley is concerned. Too much invested in Kolb to move him, which I would prefer.
Avery
Footballguy
Isn't an ellusive QB supposed to be able to ellude a would be tackler or two?If he can't, then isn't he just a bad pocket passer?
fsufan
Footballguy
that is what i remember
womb
Footballguy
I consider this real good news for the Eagles franchise. Vick's strengths are there. He runs, he draws. His weaknesses are there. He can not pass, he can not remember the playbook. Keeping him on the team with this track record will only solidify McNabb's position which is great for the team. Vick looks like he will take over plays away from Westbrook & McCoy rather than McNabb.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
I would also like to see them keep Feeley and move Kolb. But it's not going to happen.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He didn't look fluid or explosive at all running the ball - in fact he looked rather stiff and tentitive. Of course it should be expected for him to be a little rusty after two years out of the game, but he didn't look good at all last night.One Int and one fumble against 2nd and 3rd string defense.
If he can't, then isn't he just a bad pocket passer?
Or not run backwards for 25 yards and then lay down for a sack? Maybe at one point throw away the ball?
pesh
Footballguy
It's funny how people keep saying he's terrible, must we mind you again that this was his first full half of NFL football in over two years?
He's still not used to the huge feeling, his legs aren't the same as they used to be as he's still getting that back together, quite honest his arm looked pretty good.
We'll see his overall stats by the end of the season, even if he's playing a position he's never played before.
He's still not used to the huge feeling, his legs aren't the same as they used to be as he's still getting that back together, quite honest his arm looked pretty good.
We'll see his overall stats by the end of the season, even if he's playing a position he's never played before.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I think most of the people here talking about how bad he looked last night watched the game and saw for themselves how horrilble he really was. There wasn't much poitive you could take from that game unless you're a blind Vick supporter. He looked lost and aged. The man that played last night looked like a small fraction of the one that played a couple years ago. Will he ever get it back? I don't know. But I for one hope not.
The royal we can keep reminding that it was hist first time back in two years but it still doesnt refute that he looked horrible. Downright horrible.It's funny how people keep saying he's terrible, must we mind you again that this was his first full half of NFL football in over two years?
He's still not used to the huge feeling, his legs aren't the same as they used to be as he's still getting that back together, quite honest his arm looked pretty good.
We'll see his overall stats by the end of the season, even if he's playing a position he's never played before.
Romofan
Footballguy
My dislike for him and his psychopathic behavior aside.....
Vick is and always has been an OVERRATED QB. His comeback is a media goldmine but I think the results will be about the same as watching Tyson try to comeback. The main difference being Tyson was once the best n the sport. Vick ....meh. People will get all excited about nothing and eventually lose interest. Eventually they will remember what everyone used to say about Vick - good athlete - mediocre QB - below average pocket passer.
Vick is and always has been an OVERRATED QB. His comeback is a media goldmine but I think the results will be about the same as watching Tyson try to comeback. The main difference being Tyson was once the best n the sport. Vick ....meh. People will get all excited about nothing and eventually lose interest. Eventually they will remember what everyone used to say about Vick - good athlete - mediocre QB - below average pocket passer.
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PatrickT
Footballguy
Despite what you'd think from that regard, Vick has always been one of the most sacked QBs in the league. Part of it is poor decision making, part of it is a desire to keep the play going and part of it is the belief that his physical ability allows him to do anything. Another factor here is that once he starts running around like a madman, blockers can't keep up with where he is, who they should block, or which way they should block them. That's a big reason TB did so well against Vick, they had the speed to contain him and get past unsure blockers.
If he can't, then isn't he just a bad pocket passer?
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I'm sure this has been addressed, so sorry for the hijack. How is everybody dealing with Vick's roster slot? Is he strictly a QB or are some leagues going to make him available as a WR or Flex? Will that change based on how he is used or will he be a QB for the whole season? I"m just trying to head off some confusion that is bound to come up if he gets in the game a lot with McNabb.
What I was thinking exactly. Nobody waste time proving me wrong (it's not worth it), but I sure don't remember seeing that type of line.
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
The offensive line is going to be an issue for ANY QB in Philly.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Exactly.
Most of the plays were shovel passes, it's not exactly a typical offense. If you watched him play you would know that, but like most Vick haters you guys just read boxscores. Rex Ryan came out and spoke glowingly about what a threat Vick is to defenses across the league.sho nuff said:
cst2006
Footballguy
Not true at all. Yes he turned the ball over a few times and yes at times he looked like a shell of the Vick of old (which some will argue wasn't much to begin with anyways), however he made some big plays with his feet, kept the defense on its toes, evaded the pass rush multiple times to turn nothing into a couple big first downs, I don't see how you could possibly say only blind Vick supporters could take something positive from his first extended game action in 2 years.. I don't think anyone in their right mind thought Vick would go out there and return to form immediately, but he certainly displayed the athleticism that gives opposing D's fits. Like I mentioned before, you don't see many defenses all out blitzing a guy in the 4th quarter of the final preseason game, and if you did watch the game you'd see that Philly's offensive line was atrocious. Vick is nowhere near a starting caliber QB right now, but there were definitely some positives to take from the game and for him to build off of. This isn't a humanitarian competition, this is football and I'm basing my opinions on what I saw on the field and the potential Vick has to add another element that defenses have to worry about. Numerous highly talented players in the NFL have acknowledged what Vick brings to the football field and the problems he presents to opposing defenses, so if we're talking strictly football here then he definitely has the potential to contribute for Philly this year.Mr. Peterson said:
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
All you guys defending Vicks pathetic play, what you think of the rookie Jets QB?
E-A-G-L-E-S
Footballguy
He was never a good QUARTERBACK, why should he be good one after 2 years. Bad football decision by the birds, they don't need him
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Yet another "exactly."
sho nuff
Footballguy
Umm...Im sorry. 2.4 yards per pass is not defensible.Blame it on the offense all you want...but its pathetic.And don't call me a hater. I think it was a good move to sign the guy...but that stat is just awful and no amount of trying to paint someone as a hater for pointing it out will change that.Truman said:
