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[Tat]

Cheatsheet has him rated as the #3 QB this week.

He is at home against a NO D that couldn't stop Hoover High School.

Is Vick the legit player he was a few weeks ago?

Will he be playing with a chip on his shoulder due to Mora Sr.'s comments?

 

[Texican]

Has there been any update on his injured hand/thumb that occurred during the game last week?

 

[Loopdog]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

 

[BeTheMatch]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

Very

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

A bunch of teams leave 2 TD's on the field week in and week out. It just comes down to the fact that Michael Vick can not be trusted as your starting QB every week and is even to risky to play against "great" passing matchups. How many 1st round WR's will it take before Atlanta is lucky enough to stumble on a WR that wants to catch the ball? - I don't buy that. I love to watch the guy play and I think he has done wonders for the Falcons PR machine - but the better ATL fantasy (and otherwise) QB is riding the bench.

 

[Loopdog]

NC - you are nuts man, seriously. I hate how much the NFL is the league of the backup QB. Matt Schaub is not as talented as Michael Vick, end of story. Sure, he might be a good player one day, but if he started he would be saddled with the same awful WR's that Vick is. And all the Schaub backers point to the Patriots game last year and how he threw for 300 yards and a couple of TD's. But nobody mentions that the Patriots secondary was like swiss cheese last season and they were starting 4th string guys at both corners. Vick's problems are with his offensive system saddling him and his best abilities and first and foremost by drops. You saw in those few weeks what can happen when his wideouts actually CATCH the ball.

Most teams leave a few TDs on the field each week, but thats with missed plays. Vick MAKES the plays, and his WR's dont hold up their end of the bargain, and that is NOT his fault

 

[Loopdog]

and depending on what league you are in, Vick is probably one of the Top 5 QB's in scoring this year. He's been very dependable due to his rushing totals, there are few safer picks in the league right now

 

[NCPanthersFan]

and depending on what league you are in, Vick is probably one of the Top 5 QB's in scoring this year. He's been very dependable due to his rushing totals, there are few safer picks in the league right now

I hear ya on the scoring point. In a str8 up 4pt league without bonuses - I agree. But this thread leads us to believe Vick is an accurate QB who just lacks the right WR combo to help him out. We all know that is not the case.

 

[goldenchild]

and depending on what league you are in, Vick is probably one of the Top 5 QB's in scoring this year. He's been very dependable due to his rushing totals, there are few safer picks in the league right now

what vick lacks in td passes he makes up for in rushing yards... i've started him week in and week out and he puts up numbers much higher than the average qb does (at least in my league). i look at his td passes more like the bonus points that our wr/rb's get when they clip the 100 yards mark. also, it looks like he's addressed his fumble problems, as demonstrated in last week's game against BAL (despite being hit/sacked several times).it all boils down to the scoring system... in leagues that award 10 points per 10 yards rushing he's money.

 

[Loopdog]

i think that if Vick had a STUD WR, not some first round reject but an Owens-Harrison-Smith-Chad Johnson type, he would be undefendable. None of his WR's strike fear in anyone.

 

[mtblackngold]

I don't think that it takes a stud reciever, any of these recievers in the NFL can catch a ball when it hits them in the numbers. The problem with Vick is in his mind! He feels that it is up to him to win the game, and in so many ways it is, but if you feel that pressure it shows. I believe that he needs to relaxe and let the game come to him. He can be an elite QB playing the game that he plays. The Birds place alot on him, because he is what they have.

 

[BlackHole]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

Well stated. Even with the past 2 weeks, Vick is #5 and #7 in two of my leagues. I have him in both for very cheap and the RB's/Wr's I got at draft time instead of drafting a QB early has paid off. The next 4 weeks will tell the true tale though, and I anticipate this week being a very nice week for Vick and his FF owners.

 

[Islander]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

A bunch of teams leave 2 TD's on the field week in and week out. It just comes down to the fact that Michael Vick can not be trusted as your starting QB every week and is even to risky to play against "great" passing matchups. How many 1st round WR's will it take before Atlanta is lucky enough to stumble on a WR that wants to catch the ball? - I don't buy that. I love to watch the guy play and I think he has done wonders for the Falcons PR machine - but the better ATL fantasy (and otherwise) QB is riding the bench.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pass Pass Pass Pass Pass Rush Rush Rush Fum Fan

# Pos Quarterback NFL GP Att Comp Yds TDs Int Att Yds TDs Lost Pts

--- --- --------------------- --- -- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- -----

1 QB McNabb,Donovan PHI 10 316 180 2647 18 6 32 212 3 2 231.9

2 QB Manning,Peyton IND 10 359 230 2781 20 5 15 12 2 1 227.4

3 QB Brees,Drew NO 10 384 255 3120 17 10 27 22 0 3 216.5

4 QB Vick,Michael ATL 10 268 141 1686 13 9 83 704 2 3 210.1

Are you saying Schaub would be better than Brees, P Manning, and/or McNabb this year?

I will take an untrustable and inconsistent QB like Vick anytime at ADP QB10 thank you very much.

 

[Islander]

and is even to risky to play against "great" passing matchups

Yes, but he is one of the safest QBs against "tough" passing matchups. So that works both ways.

 

[Traders2001]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

A bunch of teams leave 2 TD's on the field week in and week out. It just comes down to the fact that Michael Vick can not be trusted as your starting QB every week and is even to risky to play against "great" passing matchups. How many 1st round WR's will it take before Atlanta is lucky enough to stumble on a WR that wants to catch the ball? - I don't buy that. I love to watch the guy play and I think he has done wonders for the Falcons PR machine - but the better ATL fantasy (and otherwise) QB is riding the bench.

BS , what has Schaub done exactly to be considered their best fantasy ( and otherwise ) QB.

 

[Traders2001]

and depending on what league you are in, Vick is probably one of the Top 5 QB's in scoring this year. He's been very dependable due to his rushing totals, there are few safer picks in the league right now

I hear ya on the scoring point. In a str8 up 4pt league without bonuses - I agree. But this thread leads us to believe Vick is an accurate QB who just lacks the right WR combo to help him out. We all know that is not the case.

This year so far it s the case , i watched every Falcons game . And White - Crumpler and Lelie each drop 1 to 3 balls a game each ( I might be exagerating a bit but not that much ) Jenkins is the only one holding on to the ball .

 

[Tat]

good points by all, but does anyone know about his hand?

 

[BrentBlack]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

It just comes down to the fact that Michael Vick can not be trusted as your starting QB every week and is even to risky to play against "great" passing matchups.

That couldn't be further from the truth. As said here, Vick is in the top-5 in nearly every league. He has had games of192411151727311616Can't be trusted as a starter each week, eh?

 

[smcindoe]

It's not just FBGs... the Yahoo projections have him at #1(!) for the week.

I had him on my bench after the past few shaky weeks, but I guess he gets one more chance.

 

[jim k]

Atlanta and Vick to some extent has had three bad games in a row - Against Cincy, he had 3 tds but the Cincy offense played well with a new offensive game plan, the Detroit game was a bad game turnover wise for Vick, in the Baltimore game, they were just outplayed on defense. Atlanta is not a SuperBowl team but they are a wildcard playoff type team. I like the next four weeks of matchups for Vick a WHOLE lot. Week 16 is a little shaky, but if he is hot then I am going to ride him for the whole year. That is a real possibility in my mind, especially if they commit to the run and he gets one or two rushing tds a game again.

 

[Iron Mike Tomczak]

I didnt hear anything about Vicks hand, but as long as his legs are fine, hes worth the play. Heres my take on Vick. Hes a decent at best QB but an elite RB. Lets be honest, most weeks Vick rushes for more yards than our #2 or #3 RBs , (in deeper leagues). So he is a stud fantasy wise. Anything he does in the air is a bonus for me, and hes been a pleasent surprise as of late. I see him tearing up the Saints. Its all the off the field bull####e thats getting to me, the coach is calling him a Coach Killer and all of this crap. Hes still talented enough to start week in and week out, even if he struggles passing.

 

[War Eagle]

Week in and Week out i tell message boarders that Vick's value is all predicated on whether or not his WR's feel like catching the ball that week. Every game they leave 2 TD's on the field, so hopefully this week they will catch em. Then maybe he'll live up to his ranking

WORD!

 

[War Eagle]

i think that if Vick had a STUD WR, not some first round reject but an Owens-Harrison-Smith-Chad Johnson type, he would be undefendable. None of his WR's strike fear in anyone.

WORD again!

 

[Nemesis]

I just wish Vick would use Dunn as an outlet more to open up things in both phases of the offense. It's like he's determined not to dump it off and let Dunn run with the ball.

 

[fsufan]

vick ahead of palmer

 

[-jb-]

once again, i sit here vacillating between vick and romo. i made the right choice last week...just not sure about this week.

i haven't heard anything on the hand...i don't think it's an issue, as he came back in the game on the next drive and was deflecting it off of his receivers' hands just fine.

 

[Islander]

vick ahead of palmer

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pass Pass Pass Pass Pass Rush Rush Rush Fum Fan # Pos Quarterback NFL GP Att Comp Yds TDs Int Att Yds TDs Lost Pts--- --- --------------------- --- -- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ----- 1 QB McNabb,Donovan PHI 10 316 180 2647 18 6 32 212 3 2 231.9 2 QB Manning,Peyton IND 10 359 230 2781 20 5 15 12 2 1 227.4 3 QB Brees,Drew NO 10 384 255 3120 17 10 27 22 0 3 216.5 4 QB Vick,Michael ATL 10 268 141 1686 13 9 83 704 2 3 210.1 5 QB Palmer,Carson CIN 10 322 203 2594 18 7 17 22 0 6 197.2

 

[stingy]

once again, i sit here vacillating between vick and romo. i made the right choice last week...just not sure about this week.i haven't heard anything on the hand...i don't think it's an issue, as he came back in the game on the next drive and was deflecting it off of his receivers' hands just fine.

Same choice here, and I also went with Vick last week. As of now he's in my lineup, but I'm seriously considering Romo. I'm already frustrated by my opponent having Harrington and McMichael. He also has Owens. Obviously you want to play the guy who you feel will have the best game (between Vick and Romo), but in this situation when playing against Owens, do you think that starting Romo is the smart move?

 

[Traders2001]

once again, i sit here vacillating between vick and romo. i made the right choice last week...just not sure about this week.i haven't heard anything on the hand...i don't think it's an issue, as he came back in the game on the next drive and was deflecting it off of his receivers' hands just fine.

Same choice here, and I also went with Vick last week. As of now he's in my lineup, but I'm seriously considering Romo. I'm already frustrated by my opponent having Harrington and McMichael. He also has Owens. Obviously you want to play the guy who you feel will have the best game (between Vick and Romo), but in this situation when playing against Owens, do you think that starting Romo is the smart move?

Romo is nt in the situation to have the best game ( He plays a tough T Bay defense ) while Vick plays the lousy New Orleans aints defense .And by the way i dont see any game this year where Romo will outscore Vick in FF . He simply is as regular as a clock fantasy wise ( Vick i am talking about ) even in his worst games he still outscore most good game by most qb .

 

[Traders2001]

vick ahead of palmer

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pass Pass Pass Pass Pass Rush Rush Rush Fum Fan # Pos Quarterback NFL GP Att Comp Yds TDs Int Att Yds TDs Lost Pts--- --- --------------------- --- -- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ----- 1 QB McNabb,Donovan PHI 10 316 180 2647 18 6 32 212 3 2 231.9 2 QB Manning,Peyton IND 10 359 230 2781 20 5 15 12 2 1 227.4 3 QB Brees,Drew NO 10 384 255 3120 17 10 27 22 0 3 216.5 4 QB Vick,Michael ATL 10 268 141 1686 13 9 83 704 2 3 210.1 5 QB Palmer,Carson CIN 10 322 203 2594 18 7 17 22 0 6 197.2

Dont forget Palmer was playing poorly up to two games ago.

 

[Traders2001]

Atlanta and Vick to some extent has had three bad games in a row - Against Cincy, he had 3 tds but the Cincy offense played well with a new offensive game plan, the Detroit game was a bad game turnover wise for Vick, in the Baltimore game, they were just outplayed on defense. Atlanta is not a SuperBowl team but they are a wildcard playoff type team. I like the next four weeks of matchups for Vick a WHOLE lot. Week 16 is a little shaky, but if he is hot then I am going to ride him for the whole year. That is a real possibility in my mind, especially if they commit to the run and he gets one or two rushing tds a game again.

Well they have a hard time rushing the ball the past 4 games . ( Dunn is Done )

 

[-jb-]

once again, i sit here vacillating between vick and romo. i made the right choice last week...just not sure about this week.i haven't heard anything on the hand...i don't think it's an issue, as he came back in the game on the next drive and was deflecting it off of his receivers' hands just fine.

Same choice here, and I also went with Vick last week. As of now he's in my lineup, but I'm seriously considering Romo. I'm already frustrated by my opponent having Harrington and McMichael. He also has Owens. Obviously you want to play the guy who you feel will have the best game (between Vick and Romo), but in this situation when playing against Owens, do you think that starting Romo is the smart move?

something tells me romo's gonna go off...you better start vick - i'm rarely right two weeks in a row.

 

[stingy]

once again, i sit here vacillating between vick and romo. i made the right choice last week...just not sure about this week.i haven't heard anything on the hand...i don't think it's an issue, as he came back in the game on the next drive and was deflecting it off of his receivers' hands just fine.

Same choice here, and I also went with Vick last week. As of now he's in my lineup, but I'm seriously considering Romo. I'm already frustrated by my opponent having Harrington and McMichael. He also has Owens. Obviously you want to play the guy who you feel will have the best game (between Vick and Romo), but in this situation when playing against Owens, do you think that starting Romo is the smart move?

something tells me romo's gonna go off...you better start vick - i'm rarely right two weeks in a row.

What's the call JB? I just checked my league reports and on average the Saints have given up the most fantasy points to QB's. The Bucs have given up the 4th most though. I guess I'm rolling with Vick, but it's going to really pain me seeing Romo blow up this afternoon, especially if he throws a long TD to Owens. UGH!

 

[-jb-]

once again, i sit here vacillating between vick and romo. i made the right choice last week...just not sure about this week.i haven't heard anything on the hand...i don't think it's an issue, as he came back in the game on the next drive and was deflecting it off of his receivers' hands just fine.

Same choice here, and I also went with Vick last week. As of now he's in my lineup, but I'm seriously considering Romo. I'm already frustrated by my opponent having Harrington and McMichael. He also has Owens. Obviously you want to play the guy who you feel will have the best game (between Vick and Romo), but in this situation when playing against Owens, do you think that starting Romo is the smart move?

something tells me romo's gonna go off...you better start vick - i'm rarely right two weeks in a row.

What's the call JB? I just checked my league reports and on average the Saints have given up the most fantasy points to QB's. The Bucs have given up the 4th most though. I guess I'm rolling with Vick, but it's going to really pain me seeing Romo blow up this afternoon, especially if he throws a long TD to Owens. UGH!

i went vick...and am right now. frick.

 

[Islander]

vick ahead of palmer

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pass Pass Pass Pass Pass Rush Rush Rush Fum Fan # Pos Quarterback NFL GP Att Comp Yds TDs Int Att Yds TDs Lost Pts--- --- --------------------- --- -- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ----- 1 QB McNabb,Donovan PHI 10 316 180 2647 18 6 32 212 3 2 231.9 2 QB Manning,Peyton IND 10 359 230 2781 20 5 15 12 2 1 227.4 3 QB Brees,Drew NO 10 384 255 3120 17 10 27 22 0 3 216.5 4 QB Vick,Michael ATL 10 268 141 1686 13 9 83 704 2 3 210.1 5 QB Palmer,Carson CIN 10 322 203 2594 18 7 17 22 0 6 197.2

Dont forget Palmer was playing poorly up to two games ago.

Not sure what you conclusion is from that. Vick had below average games as well. I guess you mean Palmer is worth a lot more than Vick? I agree if I could have Palmer or Vick for the rest of the year, I would go with Palmer. But my point in posting this is that it is not absolutely stupid to rank Vick ahead of Palmer in any particular week especially if Vick plays a bad defense. Vick has outplayed Palmer so far this year, despite his recent struggles, and despite Palmer's improvement. I don't see why Vick ahead of Palmer this week would be a dumb ranking that would make you go